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i think there is another level to his game and I see captain potential. too early to toss him aside in a trade IMO. even mcdavid and ekblad took about a decade to be playing for the cup. not every player is going to have a makar trajectory.
Then let him do what leaders are doing for other teams. Come in underpriced so your team can grab a couple UFAs to make the team better. He needs to find another gear. He’s not a UFA like Provorov was going to be before he re-upped. The Flyers have some leverage here. I’m seeing he’s asking above $6M. I think he’s asking a lot for what I’ve seen from him. Sanheim I like at $6.75M. I’m obviously a Sanheim fan. My big problem on defense is JD.
i might be in the minority but i like york and would prioritize holding onto him.
I guess I like York well enough. Not holding onto him isn’t an option. They just have too many holes. I like him better at 3 or 4D than 2D, which is where he is now. I was not blown away by what I saw from him last year. Sanheim is the straw that stirs the drink in their top pairing. I like Sanheim a boatload more and like Risto and Seeler in their slots better too.
Problem with that line of thinking is no one is giving a bottom-feeder a home town discount.
You can get a damn good Dman for $6M even without any discounts.
When you have no long-term plan, especially when trying to build something, you’re merely kicking the can down the road.
We will see what they do tomorrow. That will go a long way towards seeing what they see as needed fixes for this season. They still have three awful holes: Goalie, another top 4 Dman, and 4th line center who can win faceoffs in that order of importance. Goalies can come relatively cheap as can 4c’s. They may not be able to get all three. You saw Friday they want to get bigger and tougher to play against without sacrificing talent. They’ve already added a coaching staff that seems more geared towards where they’re at and looking to go. They’ve already added a guy who will fill a hole at center that everyone knows they needed. I see them as identifying obvious needs and filling them efficiently.
I’m curious as to the long-term plan for your proposed fix.
Are we talking 1 year deals to fix these couple glaring holes? If so, what sort of player do you think you’ll get on a 1 year, $4.5M (or whatever amount you’re comfortable with) deal? Is it a player that actually fixes said glaring hole, or just another place holder?
As for the cap increase, are you hoping that Zegras poops the bed? Because if he plays up to the hopes the Flyers have for him, I can’t imagine he’ll take a deal for less than the $6.5M he’s making this year. Is that a scenario that has been planned for, if the Flyers let him walk should he asks for market (assuming he’s what they hope he will be), and if so, what’s the plan for a top 6 center now? And this doesn’t even consider Matvei Michkov, who will be eligible for an extension at the end of next season, and will most likely be getting paid as well (guessing in the neighborhood of that “going away dead space,” if not more).
What I’m seeing in your post is more kicking the can down the road instead of having a long-term plan for success. And no, I’m not suggesting they become a playoff team this year (or the year after, for that matter), but if you improve the record slightly, you’re in a worse position in the next draft, and you end up repeating the cycle, just as the Flyers have done for over a decade now. Is repeating the same old mistakes acceptable?
Depends on the guy. Will his leaving after 25-26 create a hole they’ll have to refill again next summer? I don’t think there’s a goalie out there I’d be confident enough in to go beyond 2-3 years. A lot of guys, RFA and UFA have gotten taken off the block through trading and resigning. I’d go 4-5 years on either the right Dman or goalie but I’m not sure either of those guys is available. I was a little off on my dead space number. It’s $6-7M. So basically, if Zegras delivers in 25-26, you can reup him with what is dead money this year and have what his current cap hit is, which is $5.75M, to do other things. Think about that. How is that an issue? The Flyers have cap money to play with this year and I’ll start thinking more deeply about next off season if and when they fall out of playoff contention. When you’re building, starting with the foundation, then doing the framing and so on isn’t kicking the can down the road. It’s how that happens.
The Flyers don’t have the cap space for that deal. They do have the space to fill a couple glaring holes, roughly $9M. You can get a couple $4.5M guys for that. $7-8M in dead space goes away in 26 plus the cap increase, they could be bigger game hunters next July 1.
Ekblad sign in Florida for 8 years at $6.1 aav.
Super home town discount. At $6.1M for a really solid Dman, the Flyers could still add a $2.5M goalie, fill their two biggest holes and look very interesting going into this season.
Yep, hence the guy looking to stick around the league for a last trip around the sun….
I’m fine with that so long as he holds up his end in his role. I’m not expecting a fully finished rebuild for this season, just a good step in the right direction and last season exposed some glaring deficiencies.
And I doubt there will be very many “needle movers” available at any position. If they go the UFA route it’s going to be either a huge overpay, or a guy trying to hold on to his career and get one more paycheck before he is out of the league. Offer sheets may be there, but that would also entail an overpay in money and assets.
It will be trades where Briere will fill his holes, at least in the short term. But that is just my opinion.
Some people are talking about Ekblad, but I just don’t see why he would want to sign here long term in a million years. By the time we are good he will be at the tail end of his career. Why would any guy do that? Unless they are just in it for the money. Then do we really want that guy anyway?
A needle mover for THIS team is different than for a legit contender. They need a couple guys who can play at the NHL level. They don’t have much in the way of assets to trade. They got lucky with Zegras because ANA wanted the cap space and the Flyers had it but now are down to about $9M factoring in a York re-sign. See also Gibson trade. Flyers don’t have the cap space for Ekblad even if he wanted to come here. That’s pure fantasy.
Well, do you really believe if the Flyers valued Hague as a top 4 option, they did not have the assets to better NSH’s offer.
The Flyers literally don’t have a legit NHL 4C man (Sissons) and Lauzon is a veteran too and the Flyers need to add not swap. Hague individually was never a big deal, the Flyers need to fill a D spot. That’s why trades are tricky for the Flyers. They have too many holes yet themselves.
Well the Hague rumors proved to be false.
How were they false? Hague got traded after all. I was a bit surprised as the Pietrangelo is finished talk started shortly after the Hague rumors started. The Flyers don’t have the pieces to have matched what NSH gave up. Get the Dman in UFA. They have some cap space.
Read Jake Allen was looking for a 4 year deal. Good for him if he can get that term, definitely do not want the Flyers to give him that contract. Hofer extended in STL, so he is no longer an option. Demko may not extend, which will supposedly lead him to be traded. I expect the goal tending situation to be resolved pretty quickly after the start of free agency.
Reimer is a UFA and might be what they need. With DET getting Gibson, Talbot might be available in a trade. Demko looks like an expensive risk to me. I’d rather see them play it fairly safe with the goalie situation.
brink is head and shoulders better than pelletier. still some upside with brink. terrible comparison to me. funny to me how you easily discard a guy who put up 40+ points(which is more than Pelletier’s career) on a cheap contract for 2 years on this shit team. He is a lock to be a regular, as he should, unless moved. why is this so hard to comprehend?
He’s a lock . . . unless he’s moved. He’s moving. Maybe not by opening night, but he’s moving . . . unless he shows the upside you’re talking about. Maybe he adds a few pounds and some strength this off season. I’m not rooting against him, I just don’t see him in any mid to long term plans.
Brink is a winger. Flyers drafted 4 centers, 1 winger all of whom are years away from playing in the nhl, if at all.
I can tell you right now Martone isn’t years away from taking a top 9 wing spot on this team. He’ll have a shot at getting it this year. My guess is, he’s already among the six best wingers the Flyers have. Brink is also a redundant piece with Pelletier around. If one sticks, the other is gone sooner. They could be outplayed by others who’ll get a crack: Dorwart, Bump, et al. One or the other could be packaged to get something they need more than wingers: goalie, Dman, center who can win faceoffs. We’ll know a lot more by Wednesday.
this coming from the guy who has cates as the top line LW and Brink not even in the lineup.
If the draft didn’t convince you they’re looking to move beyond Brink ASAP, nothing will. That’s the Flyers talking, not me. I already said I like Cates’ game well enough that I want him in my Top 9 even once they improve the other centers enough to make that happen. None of that is guaranteed to happen by this opening night but there’s a chance of it.
