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senstrolltwo
ParticipantVlad <> Matthews – In TO for entire Career
Bichette <> Marner – Leave as UFAsenstrolltwo
ParticipantEvery yank ball analyst that has been on Sportsnet lately for a hit has said Bo is a $170 – $185m player on the open market.
We dont need Bo for 10 years, plus I think he will probably have a big drop off in about 5 years. Also, we already have anchor of contract in vlad.Id even do 3 years at $28 per.
He is going to get 8+ year deal. he is a UFA its his time to get his payday.
here is a good breakdown, projections 173-265 for 8 or 10 years. I guess it just depends how he projects out.
https://jayscentre.com/news-rumors/toronto-blue-jays/bo-bichette-extension-look-like/so far he has been 4.5 rWar /162
so if you project he is a 3 war average over an 8 year deal, that lands in the 216mil range (27m per season)
So i see 200 mil no prob for himhappy to be wrong and he gets 6x20m with the Jays
senstrolltwo
ParticipantNo.
Id do a 5 year $125m.
We have a potential Bo replacement coming up.
Keep it short termnot a chance that happens. he gets 200 mil as UFA easy min.
hes 27, 10 years 250 mil would be fine.
it doesnt feel like it, but he leads the entire league in Hits. by a dozen
senstrolltwo
ParticipantI read a proposed deal with Pittsburg.
Maple Leafs Acquire:Bryan Rust ($5,125,000)
Rickard Rakell ($5,000,000)Penguins Acquire:
Nick Robertson ($1,825,000)
Jake McCabe ($4,491,898)
Matias Maccelli ($3,425,000)
Easton Cowan ($873,500)It would be hard for me to do this deal. So I would not do it.
gross. no thanks
senstrolltwo
ParticipantDon’t think you can get a 5mil consistent 20g 50p type guy with another year on his deal after coming off a career year for anything less.
I would wait, esp dealing another 1st. See how the team plays to start the season. Unless some great deal fell into their lap.
The should have more cap space than they ever have. Another top 6 forward is prob the need. but other needs might pop up half way into the seasonsenstrolltwo
Participantshould the Jays pay Bo 200-250mil?
just hit 3r hr, pay this man his money
senstrolltwo
Participantshould the Jays pay Bo 200-250mil?
senstrolltwo
ParticipantI think we are seeing the death of HockeyBuzz, or certainly the death of that site as we knew it. The new site looks more modern, but is actually worse in almost every way for the members. Casual visitors may like the new format better, but regular forum members who came for the commenting are going to be turned off by the new comment system. No quote posting (what is it with sites lacking that basic shit now?), no threading, no private messaging, and a bunch of social-media fluff like emoji reactions and like/dislike thumbs. It’s not good.
And what’s with the poor customer service girl trying to hold people’s hands in the comments and post video tutorials on how to use the fluffy stupid features nobody asked for or wants? Is she still there? Bless her little heart. Have the wolves run her off or eaten her alive yet?
Well, it might have seemed like updating HockeyBuzz would give HotStove something to worry about. I think it’s the opposite. Ek just did HotStove a huge favor.
My two cents.
oh the site us unusable now, just trash. I see there is an Unholy_Goalie commenting, which totally makes sense since its trash
senstrolltwo
ParticipantSeems good
Relative to their league, the 2025 Blue Jays have the best strikeout-avoiding offense this *century*.Correlation isn’t causation, of course, but the other teams from the last 25 years that are comparable outliers in terms of their contact ability have fared pretty well…
this Jays team gives me 2015 KCR vibes.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantAccording to the Athletic, the Yankees were winners at the TDL, and the Jays were losers. They didn’t like that we didn’t pick up a closer.
Ha right on cue
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays
The jays have a closer, so they didnt add another closer, I guess. but they upgraded a decent amount.
But they didnt get the big name RP, so wont be seen as a big win. we will see how it works outsenstrolltwo
ParticipantMore detail on the Jays BP moves. Yankees upgraded a bit more for sure, but this will do also
Toronto’s pen has been more good than great — middle of the pack in both ERA and WAR — and while that’s not a problem, exactly, it’s also a group heavily relying on a pair of breakout arms with almost no track record of this kind of performance, in lefty Brendon Little and righty Braydon Fisher. Free-agent closer Jeff Hoffman has been better than his 4.76 ERA would imply, as a third of his runs allowed came in one bad week-long May stretch, but he’s also not exactly been consistent, either. Throw in the struggles of since-released Chad Green, and injuries that have sidelined the underrated Yimi García, and all of a sudden, Toronto was looking at some real bullpen concerns.
They did not, comparatively, add big names. There’s no Duran, Miller, Doval or Bednar here. Instead, they added Louis Varland, who has posted the quietest 2.02 ERA that absolutely no one outside of Minnesota knows about — mostly because he’s not Duran or Griffin Jax — and hasn’t allowed a homer since April, in no small part because of this kind of velocity boost. That’s mostly about being in the bullpen and not the rotation, as he occasionally has been, but also: He touches 101 mph now.
Louis Varland has been adding velocity like nobody’s business over the last few seasons, and his entire arsenal is playing up now as a result. His four-seamer, sinker, and curveball all grade out as plus pitches in 2025 –– both by run value and Stuff+.
They also added Seranthony Domínguez, who has completely remade himself over the last two seasons, adding a high-quality sweeper last year and dropping his changeup for a splitter this year. To say those pitches have worked out is a bit of an understatement; between the two of them, they’ve allowed eight hits all season long. That’s it — and against righties, who mostly see the sweeper and the 97.7 mph four-seam, he’s allowed a mere .123/.260/.173 line.
Varland and Dominguez won’t move the PR needle like the bigger stars here, and the Jays’ bullpen won’t quite be relief-first in October, like other clubs will be. If this pitching staff is going to succeed, it’s going to be because they have a rotation that just added Shane Bieber to Kevin Gausman, Max Scherzer, Chris Bassitt and José Berríos. But with these two additions, they’re deeper — and a lot nastier, too.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantJays get Louie Varland (looks like great stats) and Ty France (meh).
pretty much my thoughts
Varland is not a well known name, but been really good. also have lots of years of control left. odd deal for Minny.
Jays accomplished most of the needs.. 2 upgraded RP, 1 maybe starter.
senstrolltwo
ParticipantThats my concern…he could be just a rental.
but thats all baked into the costs in Baseball. if he had term/control he would cost more.
not taking into account how much money owed, but you get the pointsenstrolltwo
ParticipantI’m tired of Jays playing it safe. If he gets back to form, their rotation becomes really good for a decent price (maybe 3rd best pitching prospect). The player option means he likely goes to FA. He’s pretty much a rental
are you saying this is the Jays playing it safe? because I think its the opposite. very risky for a decent P prospect
senstrolltwo
ParticipantIm on the fence about this. It could be great or a disaster.
He wont be back until mid August…maybe start him as a long relief arm until he’s 100%.
He has a player option which if he is good he will opt out, if he sucks, the Jays will be stuck paying it for a yearits a big hit or miss deal. Former cy young winner. Lots of upside, but giant question mark at this point
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