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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantYou missed the shot of Hart wearing the Western Separatist tee shirt, I guess. No matter. No Habs, no Marner winning. A pretty good end to the season. Mitch can continue to be a circus performer in Vegas with Cirque du Soleil. Maybe Bieber can give him a lift home on his private jet. I’m pretty sure that he’s not injured. Excuses incoming……
Captcha nonsense.
And? So what? There is an entire party of Quebec Separatists because it’s the only way they get what they want. People in Alberta want to stop subsidizing retarded radical environmentalists so they have to put some pressure on Libtards to make them pay attention to who pays the bills in this country. You really have become a bit of a Dummycrat lately.
Mitch will continue to have success while the Leafs will continue to be an embarrassment to their history.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAnd, to think, Marner would likely have a cup if he hadn’t screwed the trade for Rantanen.
That must feel nice.
Wouldn’t matter because all the retarded haters would be saying how he only won because he joined the best team, which is what they said when he went to Vegas and it looked like they were the favorite after sweeping Colorado.
At the end of the day, the truth is simple; the Leafs made very bad mistakes and their retarded fans, instead of blaming the team, blame the players that are successful when they leave.
Losers since 1967 and it isn’t an accident anymore.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantSo no points and -4 in games 5-6. LOLZ. Here comes the name calling and blame shifting.
I’ll say it. Mercenary Marner, you get your just reward. I might have thought differently about you, but you couldn’t keep your mouth shut. I think that Carolina deserved this Championship. Their defensive play was astounding. Such discipline. Vegas has a lot of sleaze on their roster. Marner and Eichel were mercenaries. Hart was blacklisted, but Vegas brought him in anyway. Torts was also a sleaze merchant. It proves that the Eastern Conference is the dominant Conference. All that’s left is the Calder Cup and hope that the Marlies makes us proud. Then the draft and free agency. Almost summer time. I’m guessing there’s some incoming from AA and UG. Maybe some antibuse is in order for these two. Too much of the Marner cool-aid in their veins. Maybe some humble crow pie is in order. In reality, I don’t mind debating with AA and UG. They do make some good arguments, but they’ll be bombastic after this, I’m sure.
Captcha bullshit, take a hike!!!
Kool-Aid drinking is BeLeafing the Leafs are better off without Marner and Marner proved it because the proof is clear. One led the playoffs in scoring, the other was one of the worst teams in the NHL. Much like McDavid the last two years leading the playoffs in scoring, unfortunately, one player can’t win you a Cup by himself anymore. But that doesn’t mean those individuals aren’t still great players, they’re just on the losing team. Carolina wanted Marner and if he went there instead of Vegas, he’d be a Cup winner. Is Carolina stupid for wanting Marner? Clearly, they were vindicated in wanting him too. They’d probably have won 16 in a row if they had Marner.
There is zero “sleaze” on Vegas. Hart was not guilty. Maybe you became a Dummycrat over this series but not guilty means not guilty. Nothing wrong with Torts either, he’s exactly the type of coach that got Vegas to the Final dance and exactly the type of coach the Leafs refused to hire for years that got huge results in a short period of time. Eichel’s career would be over if he stayed in Buffalo and did whatever bullshit surgery they wanted him to do. He escaped Buffalo and saved his career, no different than Reinhart. Both won a Cup too. Eichel just didn’t show up for this one. This “mercenary” bullshit is a retarded narrative you’ve come up with. I guess that’s why Tavares is going to retire a career loser because he’s a “mercenary” too.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantSo no points and -4 in games 5-6. LOLZ. Here comes the name calling and blame shifting.
How many playoff points did Nylander, Matthews and Tavares have this year? Oh right, you’re too retarded to accept that reality.
Marner led the playoffs in scoring while the Leafs were one of the worst teams in the NHL. But you let me know when Matthews, Nylander and/or Tavares make the Cup Final and lead the NHL in playoff scoring. Make sure you hold your breath until it happens too.
Hart giving up 4 goals a game for 5 out of 6 games and Eichel having 2 playoff goals is how any team loses a Cup Final vs. a team as good as Carolina. Carolina was the favorite for good reason. They’re the best coached team in the NHL, they play a relentless style of hockey and they finally got over the hump after years of failure. They deserved it. Vegas played great but when you have key players injured, your #1 center being completely useless in the face-off dot, missing wide open nets and your goalie not keeping you in games, it’s only a matter of time before a team like Carolina takes full advantage of it.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantwhat if the Leafs traded Knies for that 4th over all pick?
Then Matthews requests his ticket out of town immediately and the rebuild goes full blast.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantScott Laughton will get about 5M cap hit over 4 year me think.
I’d have him as the 3rd line centerMcKenna (Leafs)
Ried
Malhotra
Verhoeff (Leafs)
Stenberg5 AAV x 4 for a 32 year old with 12 goals and 20 points. That’s retarded.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantCorrect course of action
Trade: Matthews Nylander Tavares Joshua Lorentz Domi Rielly OEL Carlo Tanev McCabe Stolarz and Woll
Absorb a few bad contracts for more assets
Go Leafs Go
100% correct.
Tyler Seguin, Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Ondrej Palat, Jordan Greenway, Brendan Gallagher and Adin Hill are all candidates for the Leafs to acquire a bad contract + a 1st and other draft capital.
If the Leafs used their cap space to acquire 6 first round picks for them, it would be a huge success.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIt appears that Carolina’s Captain may steal Mitch Marner’s Conn Smythe trophy. It’s going to take a lot for Vegas to come back in this series. Vegas appears to be grinding down. They’ve played many more playoff games than Carolina and the constant grind of the playoffs is taking it’s toll. I figure Carolina will take them in game 6, probably in overtime. Carolina has out chanced them in this series and the young goaltender seems to be stealing the show. The first 10 minutes of game 6 will tell the story. Vegas will throw everything at them in period 1. If it’s tied or Carolina is ahead, Vegas is toast.
Captcha is for losers!
It’s pretty simple right now; Eichel is getting beat and Carter Hart has a .854 SV% giving up 4 goals every single game. I don’t care what team you are, you’re not winning a Cup when your #1 center can’t win a FO, has only 2 goals in the entire playoffs and your goalie is giving up 4 goals a game making only 85% of the saves. Vegas needs Eichel to stop playing like Matthews and some saves from Hart. Karlsson seems to have broken his arm so he’s done for the series and Carolina getting 5 PPs while Carolina only gets called for pucks over the glass helps a lot too.
Full credit to Carolina, they’re playing out of this world, Rod has them running through walls and the puck luck has been on their side when historically it hasn’t been.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantJordan Staal is completely playing out of his mind. Eichel has to respond.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBest player available does include more than points, which is why pretty much everyone has Mckenna/Stenberg as very very close.
If it does then Stenberg is the better overall player, full stop. McKenna brings next to nothing other than scoring and given his size, that could disappear too as the defense gets physical with him and he’s at a high risk of injury than most other players.
projecting how well a player will do in the NHL relies heavily one how they score in junior leagues.
Which is stupid. There are plenty of players who scored a lot of points in junior which became total busts. There are plenty of NHL players, Cup winners, who didn’t score that much in junior who are very valuable players.
If the Leafs want one of the D, they should look at trading for another pick in the top 3-10, not trading down. Also, I very much doubt there is a Schaefer, Makar or Hughes in this draft. they could also be Gudbranson, Larsson, Ryan Murray, Griffin Reinhart, Juolevi
Nah, Reid and Verhoeff are legit top end prospects and there are solid options in the 20s. McKenna could be Lafreniere. Leafs would be just fine trading down if they did their due diligence.
Also the Leafs doing well in the reg season exit in the 1st round included Mitch Marner for 9 consecutive seasons. the second he leaves hes on a team in the finals, its takes more than 1 player. The GM has to build the team.
And Marner is proving this year he wasn’t the problem. One player was the difference between the Leafs being 1st in the division and last in the division. One player was the difference between Vegas losing in the 2nd round and going to the Cup Final. One player that does more than just score points and nothing else is a difference maker.
The rest of the team was filled with guys who play the exact same way as McKenna. The problem was sacks of shit like Nylander and defensively useless cap hit slugs like Tavares who both play soft, one-way hockey. The second Marner leaves, he leads the playoffs in scoring, playing in all situations like a two-way beast despite having Eichel who has 2 goals in 3.5 rounds of playoffs, doing his best impression of Matthews.
I agree, the GM has to build the team but this team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up and McKenna is the wrong type of foundational piece. He doesn’t win them playoff games if they “re-tool” and he doesn’t fit a rebuild either. The Leafs have failed too many times already with that recipe and it’s time they build a different kind of team.
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