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Stenberg has to be around 5’9″, in the pictures of the top 3 picks beside Mckenna he looks a bit shorter and Mckenna is listed as 5’11 like Stenberg.
I cant find it now but Stenberg was standing beside another prospect who was measured at the combine and was 5’11, and stenberg was not measured. he was clearly and inch or 2 shorter.just an observation. Stenberg is def stalkier than most for a 5’9ish
And what does that make Viggo Bjorck? 5’7″?
McKenna is listed at 170 and he looks 150. It’s all nebulous.
Nylander is 200lbs, he’s not that small. Not defensive, agreed, but not tiny, that’s Marner who is only 180 but is defensive lol
As for what I said I was only saying that you just want to sell out this #1 pick as a career passer. That’s it, all I meant, so fuck off.
And Nylander plays like he’s 150 lbs. So again, if McKenna is stapled to the 3rd line because of defensive issues, the same would apply to Nylander who has been in the league 10 years and still can’t play defense yet gets top line minutes and PP time.
McKenna is another Nylander. That’s just what is and what he will be if he’s as good as he’s been touted. Apparently he’s very accountable for his deficiencies and is aware of them. But at the end of the day, what the player does on the ice is what counts and what matters and despite being told to be more engaged and be more aware defensively, he still has issues doing it.
The goal should be to pair up McKenna with Matthews because their style of play compliment each other well. Matthews needs passes and McKenna’s biggest strength is his offensive vision and his passing. That’s what he was drafted for. And if your desire is for McKenna to “learn defense” well the best guy on the team to do that will be Matthews. McKenna will likely run out of gas after about 40-50 games, most rookies do, which is when Knies can take his spot on the top line. He generally also starts off very shit so don’t expect much for the first 15-20 games either.
What I “wanted” was Stenberg. Now that they have McKenna, they have to put him in situations that make him the most useful. The Leafs would be wise to only play their top line 18 min a game. And yes, that includes Matthews as he gets hurt every year playing 21 minutes a game. Reduce their wear and tear, play them in the O-Zone and on the PP. Let the bottom-six, which the Leafs spent A LOT of money on, in defensive and PK situations. Between more shutdown players and Bob, reducing the goals against is the biggest priority. I still think the Leafs D is shit and old but at least using players in the correct situations will give them a fighting chance to stay in a wild card fight.
So you don’t give a shit about McKenna, np, gotchya. Put him into a non defensive role against the primary defensive pairings and lines of the opposition to keep Captain Matthews happy.
So my guess is you don’t believe McKenna can become an all around guy decently so just start using his skill right away to keep the primary star happy. Fair enough. Cheers.
By that dumbass logic, the Leafs should still have Nylander on the 3rd line because he hasn’t learned how to play in all three zones yet either.
Keeping Matthews at maximum value is the only path forward for the Leafs. Either he wants to leave when he becomes a UFA or he is the #1 weapon in winning. You have no option unless you blow up the team today and rebuild now which this retard GM elected not to do. If he has to blow it up later, at least Matthews will be at the highest possible value.
McKenna will never be bigger or stronger. He’s small and he’s weak. That’s what he is. He’s another Nylander. The all around option was Stenberg and the Leafs pissed that away.
when it comes to ruining a rookies career.
Fixed lol
Ffs even Matthews started on the 3rd line.
Fucking leaf dreamers.
You probably forgot what actually happened during Matthews rookie season due to brain damage so I’ll remind you with the facts; Matthews was #1 in Leafs forwards ice time as a rookie at 17 (15 EV, 2PP) min per game.
With a line-up like the one I proposed, McKenna would play 18 min per game and be sheltered by playing beside Matthews whereas Matthews had absolutely nobody at his level when he was a rookie beside him. It would also include McKenna and the 1st line starting in the O-Zone and playing the PP while the 3rd and 4th lines taking care of the D-Zone and the PK. Distributing responsibilities takes stress off of the top-six players who mostly only play one-way hockey anyway.
If McKenna’s career is ruined, it will be because he’s small, physically weak, disengaged and defensively inept, not because he played on the 1st line beside Matthews as a rookie. The absolute worst place for McKenna to be is on a 3rd line, playing with muckers, trying to shutdown top lines. If that’s the path they want for McKenna, then return him to the NCAA and just let him develop there.
But we all know that the only hope the Leafs have of keeping Matthews is giving him a playmaker on his wing and that’s exactly why they prayed as they drafted McKenna. This is their desperate attempt to keep this core happy and together while Matthews will be desperate to rebuild his value as he walks himself towards UFA status and wants to maximize his next contract value.
if you look at the contract lengths, they leafs are setting up for 2 years then…we will see. Probably just hinges on Matthews.
all the players they got july 1 are 2/3 year deals. easy to change gears then and full rebuild if they wantThis team is a mediocre wild card team with very little odds of playoff success. Better off with a rebuild so hopefully it goes that way and the Leafs and blow it up and start over.
McKenna | Matthews | McCann
Knies | Tavares | Nylander
Jenner | Stenlund | Arvidsson
Cowan | Blueger | Acciari
(Domi LTIR) | LorentzMcCabe | Raddysh
Ferraro | Tanev
OEL | Schenn
Andrae | StecherBobrovsky | Hildeby
That should be the Leafs right now and it would be a superior line-up.
If the Leafs wanted Werenski and it was actually possible to get him, moving Rielly and Joshua frees up over 10m. its not that hard.
They also have assets to make a deal, its whether they want to pony up or not.They havent moved Rielly yet, I assume because the offers have not been enticing enough. But i dont doubt he could be moved.
but it sounds like Werenski toss water on that fire and its out…so move onLeafs didn’t get Werenski because CBJ wants a huge return that includes Knies, Cowan, Danford, 1st round pick etc. and luckily the Leafs package didn’t include Knies. Werenski without an extension is a huge gamble and the Leafs would be giving up pretty much every valuable piece under 25 not named McKenna. Not worth it. It just creates another hole they can’t fill.
If moving Rielly and Joshua is that easy, they should be gone already. Send Joshua to DET for a 4th and send Rielly to SEA for McCann. Done.
If the Leafs want to trade for Zach Werenski, they shouldn’t sell the youth to do so. He’s 28 and at best, has 10 years left. He’s at his peak right now. A package like Rielly, Stolarz and the Colorado 1st is as much as they should consider paying. Keep the current core, keep the young core and add to the back end. The bottom 6 looks set as does the top 6. Defense is where they need to upgrade the most. Werenski should be the target.
Werenski isn’t going anywhere and definitely not to the Leafs, especially now that they have no assets and no cap space left. He would cost Knies. Columbus is probably just going to keep him for the short term and either move him for a king’s ransom at the deadline or give him 15 million AAV to stay in Columbus.
The Leafs can’t even get rid of Rielly, how the fuck can they be expected to get Werenski for him, Stolarz and a late 1st?
that’s alot of home town discounts.
I hope the Leafs use their cap space wisely today.
I was pretty damn close with a lot of these and the Leafs missed too many good opportunities for shittier options.
Sign Arvidsson, 5.25 AAV, 3 years.
– 5 AAV, 2 years to Detroit. Leafs should have signed him instead of Roslovic at 4 AAV. Roslovic absolutely sucks away from the puck. Total brain dead signing. Arvidsson fits better.Sign Jenner, 5.25 AAV, 3 years.
– 5.75 AAV, 4 years. Washington obviously threw more money at him but I think the Leafs could have got him down to 5.5 AAV. Huge missed opportunity. Jenner is a leader the Leafs needed.Sign Ferraro, 5 AAV, 5 years.
– 4 AAV, 3 years. Should have dumped Rielly by now. Unbelievable that Nurse gets a top level prospect with ZERO salary retention but the Leafs can’t move Rielly. Stupid.Sign Stenlund, 2.5 AAV, 3 years.
– 2.75 AAV for 1 year. Leafs could have definitely got him for 2.5 AAV for 3 years. They just missed this one hard. Sundin isn’t using his Swedish pull hard enough.Sign Sissons, 2.25 AAV, 3 years.
– 4.25 AAV for 2 years. I like Sissons as a player but 4.25 is a retarded price to pay. That’s double what he’s actually worth. Should have got somebody else for that price.Sign Acciari, 2.25 AAV, 2 years.
– 2.8 AAV for 2 years. I think the Leafs could have been competitive for Acciari considering he has played here before. Would rather have Acciari at 2.8 than Sissons at 4.25.Sign Schenn, 1.35 AAV, 1 year.
– 2.25 AAV for 1 year. Vancouver just overpaid because they know nobody wants to play in Vancouver. Leafs could have easily signed Schenn for less to shore up their weak RHD situation.Nick Paul trade: retarded. Leafs already have Lorentz and they waste cap space on this guy? Would have rather signed Jenner and Stenlund to play that role of 3C/4C than get this guy. Trading Hildeby to Tampa Bay worries me because they know how to mold big frame goalies. Would have rather traded Stolarz and kept Hildeby. That was probably another big mistake.
Will the Leafs sign McKenna or send him back to college?
I guess training camp will tell.As evidenced by their trades and UFA signings, they are desperate to be a mediocre wild card team so therefore there is no chance McKenna goes anywhere but the NHL.
