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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
There is talk amongst league executives that Leafs have asked for Nicolas Roy and Nicolas Hague in return. It will be interesting to see if this happens.Would have to get rid of Rielly or Benoit because the Leafs are already full on LHD and he’s an RFA with arbitration rights.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantFriedman saying Nic Roy included ..if it gets done. Big 3C fits.
Ya, hopefully he gets Vegas’d in a year or two and ends up in Shitsville.
Apparently he veto’d a few trades over the last year. Isles offered Dobson …Canes Rantanen. I think he’s been planning to end up in Vegas since last summer
Great, a 3rd line winger (he sucks at FOs, 47%) who has a big body and rarely uses it (less playoff hits than Marner). Sounds like a great playoff flop (2 goals, 4 points in his last 18 playoff games), 1st round exit strategy. Another Laughton with a bigger cap hit.
He’ll get closer to a Cup in Vegas than the Leafs will without him, just like Kadri, another player idiots ran out of town.
Just hoping the Leafs hit one diamond in the rough this year.. Not greedy.. Just one
Leafs are fantastic at drafting guys that are 5 years away from being 5 years away.
Better off trading every single pick they have in this draft for two-way, 2nd and 3rd line centers.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantTavares is a fantastically nice person but he can jam his jamjams up his ass as a player because he’s part of the playoff loser problem in Toronto.
Defensively inept, old, slow and garbage playoff performer, part of the loser DNA that this idiot management can’t rid itself of. And, as usual, the Leaf lemmings love it.
His discount is nice but ultimately irrelevant because he won’t help this team win where or when it matters. He sucked balls against Florida and he will continue to suck balls against Florida as he gets even older, slower and worse defensively. He already proved he can’t handle the top-six role at either end of the ice and if he’s expected to play a 3rd line role, he can’t shut anybody down either. He’s useless. People think they’re getting a discount but he’s actually overpaid by double what he’s actually worth. He should be on 1 year, 2 million (or less) deals at this point in his career based on his playoff disappearance vs Florida.
The only reason this lights up the eyes of fans is because they are vicariously living out a fantasy of “playing for the home town team for less money”.
The same idiots who ran a younger, better player out of town because they incorrectly believe he’s “only a regular season player” are now cheering for an older, inferior, regular season player because he took a “discount”. And what will the Leafs do with those cap savings? Continue to sign more UFAs who won’t do a damn thing when it matters.
What’s funny however is that his “discount” is so significant in comparison to his last contract (where he was wildly overpaid and Leafs fans didn’t care because they were convinced he’d have won multiple Cups by the end of his contract), if Marner signed for 14 AAV, the Leafs would get both players back for less (18.34 AAV) than they paid them last year (21.93 AAV) but they still won’t do it because “saving cap space” to sign other inferior players is more paramount to the mediocrity of this franchise.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantOooh game 3.
Look back over these post or look up some facts (which i know you dont like)….over the past 9 years marner has like 1 goal 8 assist or something like that in games 5-7.
In series clinching games, marner has 5 assist.Nylanders stats are better…2 goals 11pts
Or, use your brain, which I know is difficult for you and look at the most recent data which is Marner played better vs. Florida than Nylander did.
Florida is who they need to beat to win the East and possibly the Cup.
And Marner, had a GWG and two primary assists on GWG vs Florida. Literally involved in winning THREE games against Florida, something no other team did this year, not even McDavid or Kucherov.
Keep doing what you cultists do best; lie to yourself.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMarner is a great regular season player and a good game 1 to 4 playoff player, but the leafs cant afford to have two players like that on the team making $13+m.
Then trade Nylander. Where did he go after Game 3? He was AWOL and didn’t even have to play vs the top line.
Marner had a GWG and two primary assists vs the Panthers. He directly helped win 3 games and defensively kept their top line in check.
That’s the player you keep.
IF Ekblad is available…sign him. -FakeChange
So let a 100 point player who helps you win games vs the Panthers in the playoffs walk for NOTHING but sign a player who scored 3 goals and 33 points last year?
Ekblad is a big, big mistake. He’s never healthy with a history of concussions, he just got suspended and he doesn’t even score as much as Rielly.
The Leafs can’t afford to sign another 7 year deal for a guy who is going to be 30-37. The Leafs blueline is already old and broken enough as it is.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantNOPE. WRONG. AGAIN. -Big23IQ
Your brain is as broken from Junior C CTE as this web page.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantyou are the one saying the leafs are done and he is leaving.. jfc
If he wants to leave, nothing they can do… and prefect time to rebuild.you talk out both sides of your mouth
Pretty logical that he’s going to leave after they let his best line mate walk for nothing and the team goes into decline because they already can’t beat the best teams in the division and have little to no hope of improving with free agents.
That’s right, there is nothing they can do. Because the franchise is run by morons. They had a chance to do it right and they’re in the midst of throwing it away.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWrong again, little coward.
Nope, keep living in blinded denial.
Elbows down, knee pads on.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantActually I can see it just fine. An injured Matthews can still shoot, his problem was only hitting the net properly, and JT shoots just fine, so those two actually strengthen my argument.
Marner is Gretzky man. With one exception. Gretzky could see a guy diving down to lay on or pin or block a puck ahead of him doing so by about 1 second and simply stick handled the puck away from being caught up in it whereas Marner doesn’t see it and always gets caught up in it. It’s why Marner always disappears in games 5,6, & 7. It’s when the ref whistles go away.
I’m not trying to be an ass here, I’m saying this with respect to Marner’s talent, but what it’s missing is Gretzky’s ability to see things before they happened.
Actually, I don’t think you do.
Matthews missed 15 games. Marner still scored without him. Matthews scored a career low in goals and Marner had a career high in assists and points so no, your argument is weak. He can make strong players stronger and any contender will already have that. He’s not going to join a lottery team and even having a guy who can score 30 goals on his line, he literally proved this last season he can still get 75 assists and 100+ points.
If Marner couldn’t see things coming, he wouldn’t be a leader in takeaways, playing on the PK and a Selke nominee. Your analysis is wrong. He sees the play just fine. He’s part of the reason the Leafs won 3 games against the Panthers with a GWG and two primary assists on GWGs. His team around him in Toronto was just not as good as Florida.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMarner just better hope he gets a top notched shooter on his line because if he doesn’t he’ll just end up being half the producer that he is.
Nice hands and nothing else, no speed, no physical play, and a meh shot. Same wimpy ass kid who played for my London Knights. I won’t miss this overpriced guy at all.
Scored 102 points with 75 assists with a crippled Matthews who couldn’t shoot or play all season. Gave Tavares his career year high in goals prior to playing with Matthews too.
He’ll be just fine in Vegas or Dallas. And even if he doesn’t score 100 points, his hockey IQ, two-way play, will work well enough to get results on those teams.
You and many other Leafs fans just can’t see it yet, just like they couldn’t see Kadri being a playoff beast because they were too busy crying about his suspensions.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThe issue isn’t Marner specifically, it’s roster composition dummy.
This team aside from too much cash in forwards, is that those forwards ALL PLAY THE SAME WAY – Soft and weak come man-up hockey. When physicality goes up, stripes whistle less, and time/space are removed – these players fold. That’s the issue.
If that really was the problem dumbass, then you sign Marner and trade Nylander. Nylander is the definition one-dimensional winger who can’t play defense, kill penalties or play vs top lines. If you want to talk about soft and weak, Nylander is the poster boy for soft, weak hockey. And this year, he didn’t even show up vs. Florida after Game 3. Total disappearing act. He played well against Ottawa’s 2nd and 3rd lines but Florida made him look like the bitch he is.
Tavares, Jarnkrok, Kampf and Rielly, are also soft, weak, terrible defensive players. The problem isn’t Marner, the problem is the rest of the garbage players idiots like you and management refuse to get rid of.
Personally, I’d keep both Nylander and Marner, but if the problem was “too much of the same thing”, then Nylander would logically be the one who gets traded and Marner would be re-signed because Marner is better than Nylander.
There is nobody on the UFA market that will sign in Toronto that is better than Marner or cheaper and willing to play in this tire fire franchise or market. The Leafs will have more money to spend on more garbage, like they always do.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantSo like 12 years oh Matthews and then a rebuild. yeah that makes total sense. if they havent won in 12 years, Rebuild is fine
Ovechkin took 13 years to win the Cup. Yzerman took 14.
Perfectly Leafy that the Leafs would start the blow up of the team prematurely.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantyeah keep dreaming. he ain’t going anywhere for now.
Unless Vancouver trades Hughes to NJD, then I could possibly see a 3 way deal involving Rielly with possibility of Hamilton going to the Leafs.Hughes will not stay in Vancouver long term. And I don’t blame him. One of the worst places in North America to live and he wants to play with his brothers.
They’re going to need Rielly, home town boy, to replace part of his production.
Rielly to Vancouver or Seattle can be done, just a matter of the Leafs actually having the balls to push Rielly out the door.
Doubt very much New Jersey would trade Hamilton to Toronto, don’t think they could afford to fit him anyway.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAs per Frank Seravalli, Marner’s family are in Vegas looking at houses. This would be a good landing spot for him. However, there are many on this team who know what it takes to win, and Marner might get a rude awakening from his teamates when he tries to coast through the playoffs as is his habit. I don’t think proven winners would just sit back and watch him coast, they would lay into him hard. Perhaps this is exactly what he needs.
Marner is going to look even better than Kadri did holding that Cup over his head while Leafs fans make excuses for the idiots that run this team and the morons who support the bad decisions.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThe Canadian economy isnt “garbage”, the GDP grew, inflation is down and one of lowest in the G7, household spending is up, trade barriers between most provinces are beginning to lift.
Brainwashed libtard. Barely any growth in the last 10 years, less than 2% over TEN YEARS, worst GDP in G7. Worst standard of living decline in 40 years.
freedom rating is much higher than the US.
More Freedom? Maybe more freedom for criminals and non-citizens.
Only more garbage coming. Elbows down, knee pads on for you FakeChange.
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