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We’ll see what happens but there will be an adjustment period that’s likely going to suck for sure.
That adjustment period will be the remainder of Matthews’ contract and when he walks for nothing as a UFA, this team will be thrown into full rebuild.
Nylander will become Kessel 2.0, all by himself with no hope in hell of carrying the team, he’ll get frustrated with being on a garbage team, will request a trade and the full rebuild will be on the road for the next 5-7 years.
This is the beginning of the end for this era and the Leafs threw it away.
I see someone still “forgets” to respond when he’s proven wrong.
Hasn’t happened with any of these garbage arguments presented yet.
They need a better balanced roster and Marner’s departure will allow them to do just that if Tre makes moves that work out.
Make sure you start holding your breath now until that happens.
Sorry, this isnt a thing.
Points for everyone is measured by the season, not by some random 82 game chunk.
Marner hasnt played a full 82 game season since 2017
He’s only ever hit 100pts ONCE in a season….sure he had seasons where he was on pace for more than 100pts…..but the reality is….he didnt finish with 100pts.One year he had 99 points in 80 games. Marner is a 100 point player, and has scored at that point per game pace for 5 years in a row. His career average is 1.12 points per game which is 92 points per 82 games AVERAGE.
You’re the first one to contradict yourself on point per game pace with this statement…
As for the 100pts thing, Tkafack has scored 100pts twice and was playing at a 1.09 ppg pace when he got injured
Dumbass.
No magasheep, blame the player and the GM.
Tax the millionaires as they should be.
Also, they earn american and spend in Canadian in the city/country, so big savings for them…..until their dollar goes in the crapper like their economyFucking clueless libtard communist, as usual. The only dollar going down the shitter is the garbage Canadian dollar and the garbage Canadian economy. Keep being a blind sheep.
E. Kane is being trade to the Canucks ????
I was hoping the Leafs could snag himEvander Kane sucks ass at that cap hit. He missed the entire season and that’s probably the only reason he was decent in the playoffs. His body has been through a lot of damage. He’s not worth that cap hit anymore.
Leafs dodged a bullet. But if Canucks are willing to take shit players so Morgan Rielly to Vancouver can happen.
Sorry, zero faith in Matthews. He has been as bad, or worse, than Marner in the playoffs. How he gets a free pass, year after year is ridiculous.
I’ll repeat these facts, again and again…
McDavid had 1 goal vs the Panthers this year. Kucherov, two years in a row vs the Panthers, 0 goals. The Panthers have been THAT GOOD at shutting down the absolute elite of elite players.
And the Leafs still took them to Game 7. Won 3 games because of the 1st line, Knies, Matthews and Marner, 1 GWG each.
Ovechkin has made it beyond the 2nd round ONCE in his entire career. Same goes for MacKinnon. The greatest goal scorer to ever live, Ovechkin, has ONE Cup and it took him 13 years to get it.
Winning a Cup is the most difficult team trophy to win in sports for a reason. It’s been many years of failure for the Leafs, as individuals and as a team but their window will only shut if they close it on themselves by giving up on the best players they’ve had in 58 years and not giving them the correct supporting cast.
The Leafs got lucky with two amazing players in Matthews in Marner but then got astronomically unlucky when they both demanded massive contract overpays that made it impossible to complete with the Florida’s of the world.
Blame the city and the country they live in with their absurdly high taxes. Players and their agents don’t give a fuck what the cap hit is. They care about what they take home. Every. Single. One.
This idea of “overpayment” is insane. If a player makes 12 AAV in Vegas, he needs to make 16.5 AAV in Toronto to go home with the same money.
Matthews at least has the benefit of getting paid in signing bonuses to avoid the taxes. Marner doesn’t have that benefit. If the Leafs had got him his US citizenship, then he could have used the same loophole and maybe that’s what the Leafs need to start doing to be able to avoid the taxes and keep an even playing field with their divisional competitors.
You are more tolerant than me.
I wanted them all (rielly matthews marner nylander tavares) out, get some picks and started the F over. I don’t think you can afford to have any of them making 8 figures and ice a winning team.Sure, blow it up. Start over again. Good luck finding another guy to lead the league in goals and a 100 point running mate for him to play with.
The Leafs absolutely suck at building a team through the draft. By some miracle, they tanked and drafted very high, very often. They got very talented players fall right in their lap.
The odds of the Leafs being able to do that all over again without fucking it up are astronomically bad. They’d probably have to rebuild for 20 years to get back to where they are now knowing their track record of failure.
This situation can still be salvaged. Ovechkin took 13 years to win a Cup. And has only got past the 2nd round once in his career; the one time he won a Cup. If it was that difficult for a player like Ovechkin to succeed in the playoffs, then this group of guys (Matthews, Marner, Nylander and now Knies) needs to continue to be given more chances because it’s still the best this franchise will have for a very, very long time.
There’s still far too many Leafs fans that have this attitude about these guys as if they were promised to win 5 Cups in a row and become a dynasty. No. There are 32 teams, the divisional playoffs are detrimental to this franchise at the moment and winning four rounds is very, very difficult. These guys have not succeeded yet and that’s justifiably frustrating but it’s a long process to win a Cup in the NHL.
OK, let’s discuss this.
Sure.
Has Marner ever scored 40 goals?
Why does that matter? He’s scored 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row. He’s an elite playmaker who kills penalties, two-way player. He makes Matthews score more goals. Marner scores 30+ goals often. Not hitting 40 is an arbitrary, stupid criticism.
Has Marner won any hardware in the NHL, like Matthews? So why is Marner wanting Matthews money and millions more than Nylander?
Would Matthews be able to win hardware without Marner? I’d say, less likely. Marner makes his teammates better. If there was a top playmaker award, Marner would be eligible, along with being a Selke nominee.
He’s easily better than Nylander and definitely worth more than Nylander. That’s not even a question anymore.
A player is worth what he can get paid somewhere else. If the market says he’s worth 12 (which is actually 16.5 in Toronto because of the taxes), then that’s what he is worth.
I know the Cap is going up, but we heard this before, then Covid hit? Did Marner take a hometown discount back then? No. He squeezed every dollar out of the Leafs and he’s doing it again.
Wrong again. Go do the math on how much he loses because of taxes. He did take a discount. You just don’t realize it because you look at the cap hit, not the dollars he actually takes home.
12 million in Florida is 16.5 million in Toronto. Asking for 14 is a discount, just like Tavares was a “hero” for taking a “discount” to come to Toronto instead of going to San Jose…
On the primary assist in Game 6, vs Florida, that little shovel pass wasn’t a spectacular play. He was trying to not get hit and just chipped it straight towards Matthews.
Bullshit. You’re hating on Marner at this point. Marner was in the right position, created pressure, got the puck, made a play, Matthews scored. He did the same with Knies GWG in Game 1. And scored a GWG in Game 2. You’re smashing yourself in the dick trying to justify why a player who was involved in 3 GWG against Florida isn’t worth winning games in the playoffs.
That goal was a soft goal and shouldn’t have went in. On Willy, I’m not impressed with him either. The difference is, he’s under contract and Marner is not. If I had my druthers, I’d move both of these soft primadonna’s. At least you could shore up with cap money in free agency, plus gain some futures as well.
No, the real difference is that Nylander doesn’t play vs top lines and sucks defensively. The reality is, there is nobody else out there better than Marner that the Leafs can acquire for less money who will provide better results. Same goes for Nylander. The Leafs are stuck with these guys. This is the best bet they got. All they can do is keep them and surround them with the right guys and remove the wrong guys, which is Rielly and Tavares.
No worries bud the typo was NUGGIES I didn’t mean Buggies. And BUY you Mountain Dew not But. For someone chirping others IQ’s – I would’ve assumed your giant brain would be able to decode that without googles help? Then again, as others have pointed out – you just copy and paste your opinions from ChatGPT or some other persons thoughts.
#wrong
Man a racist, pedo supporting, and now calling people retard? You are a classy kid.
You must be so proud of yourself. You made it all the way to Junior C and all you got for your trouble was CTE.
This site needs to get a LOT better. Ad hell and login problems make it really unenjoyable
Use Brave browser. You’ll never see another advertisement, on any site, ever again.
You’re welcome.
2.3 inches was all your mom needed son! Tell her just cause I plugged her doesn’t mean I need to but you more Mountain Dew and buggies. Enough is enough – she is a lady of the night and I paid my $2.30 to have my go.
Going to need Google translate to decode this retarded language you type.
Player A makes $11.5M per.
Player B asking for $14M+ per.
Player A (career totals)
Primary Assists – 239
Goals – 262
Points – 612
Giveaways – 375
Dzone Giveaways- 117Player B(itch)
Primary Assists – 312
Goals – 221
Points – 741
Giveaways – 651
Dzone Giveaways – 246Imagine thinking player b deserves that much more cash per season. Even worse, claiming the guy Player A has been ‘saddled’ with is a garbage trash centre who was never good vs player b playing with a guy who he just needs to shovel a 2foot pass to and that guy lights it up.
Some sweet selke numbers there eh
#ug
#wrongThis screams of 2.3cm energy to go with that Big 23 IQ.
He did absolutely nothing that warranted surrendering a 1st round draft pick.
He’s the type of player you can sign as a UFA on July 16th at a bargain rate.
While Marchand went for a conditional 2nd round pick.
Leafs lost who gives a shit and its not like its 1 year, its 10 years of failure.
the team hasnt won a fucking thing as is. in 10 fucking years.
It’s not 10 years of failure, it’s not year 1 of failure; it’s 58 years of failure. Because too many idiots, among the fans, in media and in management spend their time blaming everything and everyone except themselves, making rash decisions thinking they were further or closer than they really are.
This is an example of them being closer than they think they are and throwing it away because of impatience. They took the Panthers, two-time Champs, 3-time finalists, to Game 7. Nobody else did that.
Throwing this team away won’t make them win next year and will almost certainly guarantee they won’t even have a hope of winning for another 10 years as they begin their backward slide of losing assets for nothing.
because they have to overpay Mitch to shit his pants when they have to win a game.
14mil to not help his team win.
As usual, you are not thinking for yourself. You’re just a parrot of the idiot narrative created by simpleton fans and a biased media.
Let’s put this in the simplest terms that even a total retard could understand.
Knies scored a GWG in Game 1. Marner had the primary assist.
Marner scored the GWG in Game 2. Repeat. Marner scored the GAME WINNING GOAL IN GAME 2.
Matthews scored the GWG in Game 6. Marner had the primary assist.No other team this year won 3 playoff games vs the Panthers. And yet, the Leafs 1st line, just proved they could defensively handle Florida’s top line and offensively won 3 games, Marner being instrumental in all 3 goals.
That’s contributing more than anybody else did to WIN PLAYOFF GAMES. More important goals than McDavid did this year vs the Panthers. Kucherov, two years in a row, 0 goals vs the Panthers.
The “price” is what it is because of the shit garbage environment that is Toronto. You can punt the problem and blame Marner but the same shit will happen with the next guy and they next guy after that until Toronto changes for the better.
You’re blinded by the price and can’t see that the offensive numbers, while less than expected, is still enough to win games. The real problem is wasted money stuck with Tavares and Rielly. It’s quite simple if you pull your head out of your ass.
