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Fakepartofme
ParticipantThe Leafs could have all of those things and it still wouldn’t matter if the retard GM is signing over the hill, broken down players like Tanev. Or Stolarz. Or any other guys they brought in way past their expiration date. It would be like building a structure with rusted steel beams and expecting it to hold up the test of time.
The real problem with the Leafs isn’t the medical staff. It’s the fact that they absolutely suck donkey cock at drafting and developing players. When great teams get hit by injuries, they have a next man up attitude. You think Tampa Bay, Vegas, Colorado or Florida haven’t had some injuries? Of course they have. The difference is they have depth and a system that works when the next guy up is plugged into the roster.
The Leafs, because they’re built by a retard, live and die on the performance of a couple key players. If they are hurt, playing poorly or get shut down, the rest of the team falls apart.[/quote]
How many drafted players do the above teams have on their current roster that they drafted? Florida 7 maybe, 2 or 3 are real impact players. Vegas 3? They were gifted a good team and extra picks and traded for everyone. All the teams above have traded away many of their first rounders over the years for high impact players. The leafs simply havent been able to do that and when it does occur, they rarely keep the player or they disappear to injuries.
The leafs problem is they paid marner and matthews simply too much in the beginning which has screwed them for years. Now they put money into other players who simply arent good either. Its poor cap allocation and asset management.
Vegas and florida had depth because they were greatly over the cap when they won.Fakepartofme
Participantso leafy
In hindsight, Dubas was adequate. But I think the entire Shanny era was an unequivocal failure. The way Marner was handled from the start was a disaster, they gave the kid (or his dad) absolute power and got burned in the end.[/quote]
Shanny’s first 5 years were pretty good. I did make some big positive changes for the leafs and how they were viewed around league and they were able to sign the biggest FA in sport at that time. The team looked like a genuine cup contender.
But Dubas was horrible at negotiating contracts and gave in to Matthews and marner who didnt earn or deserve those contracts at the time. Then for the final 5 years, Shanny refused to budge on the core 3. One of Marner or Nylander needed to be moved out for another type of star player.
But they werent.
Dubas giving whiny marner a NTC/NMC clause was another big mistake.
Tre almost changed the leafs franchise had marner accepted a trade to the Canes for Rantanen…that would have great improved the team. But it didnt happen and Tre made the ultimate mistake of trading two 1st round picks and quality prospects for a 3rd liner and 4th dman.
The 2026 1st rounder should never have been in play.
The leafs have Captain who doesnt seem to care that much
So many injuries and goalies who are not repeating the level of success they had last year (it short spurts they have)
A team that looks disorganized and continues to no show in games (am ongoing issue for the pat 6 years)
Now we have a coach that is trying to force a system on players who cant play it and a GM who simply isnt up for the task of making this team successful.
The leafs analytics were in a downward spiral for years but everything aligned for them last year to help win them the Atlantic.
That wasnt going to happen every year, as we have seen this year, injuries caught up to them
Its all so leafy. Which is the way it has to be.Fakepartofme
Participantthey can take teams bad contract to get a better return with more cap space[/quote]
I guess.a 3rd or 4th pick is better than what they have I suppose.
Fakepartofme
ParticipantSo the Leafs have placed Joshua and Tanev on to the LTIR. That’s 7M extra in potential cap space.
Cap space for what?
They have no assets to trade to acquire anyone of use. Plus you can no longer be above the cap in the playoffs….like the panthers have been for the past two years.Fakepartofme
Participantfor me, you are punting the issue to a later date with no protection on the pick.
If the Leafs can finish between the 11th and 16th pick would be better IMO.
For me, you keep Laughton unless his salary demands are too high for his next contract. (4yrs @2.5~3M cap hit)[/quote]Agreed, you are punting the issue but you may be punting a worse pick for the team. I dont want to provide the team with a top 16 pick which seems to be what they will be getting now.
I could easily be talked into keeping Laughton for at 2.5 – 3m per, give him a letter and least you are not losing the asset you trade a 1st and prospect forFakepartofme
ParticipantUG, you through so much spaghetti to the wall, some of it bound to stick.
Moving players above 25 is not wise.[/quote]
Did he predict all the injuries, which has been one of the main drivers for the leafs lack of success?
He simply whined about baby marner turning down the leafs good offer to run away to vegas.Fakepartofme
ParticipantOk time to sell, sell, sell, sell.
Too many injuries and simple lack of heart and effort to get into the playoffs
Bottom out for a top five pick or simply sell any FA’s.
Laughton for a 2nd – which is all he should have been traded for all you’re going to get now.
Maccelli – 3rd
Jarnkrok – 4th or 5th
Robertson – 3rd.I doubt either of the above gets a 1st, unless the leafs are trading with the leafs.
Fakepartofme
Participantfucking treleaving traded Minton (13g-12a-25p +15) and that 1st for Carlo
so leafy[/quote]
Horrible trade. Hated it then and still do.
Tre doesnt seem to be too great at deadline deals.
Hopefully, he doesnt move any more picks or young players this year. Just sit tight or move out vets for picks/prospects.Id still prefer this leafs team finish in the bottom 5 to push our 1st out another year.
Fakepartofme
ParticipantIt’s got to be in your core group, not just add ons. This is what they have tried the whole Matthew’s era to no avail.
Agreed and this core doesnt have it..never did. Specially with Marner.
But, its difficult to tell at an early stage of drafting…..definitely for the leafs.Ah well….its only entertainment.
Fakepartofme
ParticipantIt really was. No point in comparing our offseason to the Dodgers, they just do whatever TF they want. Compared to just about every other team in the league, the Jays killed it. Run with this team, see what needs to be tweaked around the trade deadline, then target guys to fill those holes.
It takes a lot of things to go your way to get to the big show, and a lot went right for the Jays last year. Hopefully, they can spark that magic again for another run.[/quote]
Exactly.
Unless you pay to have all stars at every position which only one team in the league does. -
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