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It appears the short-term strategy is to hope somehow the team save % can get above .900. I am not very optimistic this will happen. They are still much closer to a top 5 pick then a playoff spot. Frankly, until this current regime can show the ability to get consistent goaltending, all the other aspects to building the roster will not matter. Briere cannot just point to and look at Zavragin will be really good when gets here. Looks like Dilly’s last hope to save his job will be if Vladar can post a career best save % this season. Boosh will have to word salad a ridiculous amount of times this season to avoid using the term “soft goal” this season.
Vladar has looked pretty decent, not sure how many games he can maintain that. Ersson just is not getting the job done although he did make a few nice saves last night.
It’s crazy how much the narrative in the media has changed around Jett in the last 24 hours. It’s almost like Comcast PR sent a memo to everyone.
Could also be bloggers are just running out of things to write about. There’s one odd man out and who that is is completely dependent on carrying 7 or 8 Dmen. If they carry 7, Jett has already made the team. Learn to love it.
I don’t think carrying 8 dmen is ever a great look for a team. It sends the message that you don’t have enough quality forwards to dress and for a team in year 3 of a rebuild that should be showcasing young forward talent, it sends the message you have failed in your job. I don’t think you will see the Blackhawks carrying 8 defensemen when they finalize their roster.
I was surprised by this, but carrying 8 Dmen is actually fairly common. 10 teams started the season that way last year including the Leafs, Caps, Colorado and Vegas. Tell me how those teams are failures. All of them made the playoffs last year and three of them have won cups within the last few years.
https://puckpedia.com/news/2024-25-nhl-opening-rosters
Now I don’t recall the Flyers ever doing it. Maybe that’s why the possibility caught so many, including me, by surprise. I also don’t think an 8D roster best fits the current talent, or lack thereof, on the team. D is a problem, Ersson is a problem, situational awareness is a problem. One Flyer strength looks to be stealing points in a shootout. To me that means locking things down late in tie games, drag the other team into the shootout and steal a point there.
maybe the jett should work on targeted scoring, back in juniors.
Hahaha, that’s an option. Playing alongside junior slugs on a bad team in Guelph is always an option.
The jett shouldn’t be a want and he def isn’t a need. Who said it was a negative? Still funny though he can’t outshine a 30 year old borderline nhl player no? hence no reason to even contemplate him on the nhl roster. 8 game look is a waste and meaningless if that is what they do.
Where was it said he worked on some targeted skating work?
Watch, listen and learn. It’s been discussed. Cued up for your convenience.
that in itself is a disgrace and more incompetence.
hope the jett makes it. plays in all the games. never develops offensively. then in 4 years still see flyers fans defend this organization.
said from the beginning he would be the 4th line center. he has outplayed the jett for the role they need him to play. or do you disagree.
Abols has absolutely outplayed Jett. He raised his game significantly with some targeted skating work. Great! Like I said, Jett is a want on the roster, not a need. He was at least a likely need going in. Abols has been the most pleasant surprise of camp. Not sure how that is a negative on Jett. Ginning then Grebenkin would be right behind Abols.
Here you go. A pro-Jett article that advocates him making the the opening night roster in 2025. I almost expected FlyerFrank’s name in the byline.
His main argument is in the opening line : Jett Luchanko started last season in the NHL, and there’s no reason that he shouldn’t do the same this year.
Hahahaha! The Flyers went into camp with a center spot up for grabs: Abols and Luchanko were the main contenders. Abols, at 29, decided to really work on his skating before camp and looks like a different player. Who saw that coming? Anybody? So the Flyers still like Jett. At this point, he’s more of a want than a need, due to Abols, but the Flyers clearly want him. I see a guy with noticeable speed who plays soundly and responsibly. He passes when he has shooting opportunities? Gee, that’s never happened before with any player. Seems to me the Flyers think whatever shortcomings are in his game now can be coached through in the short term. Jett’s getting at least the 8 game look.
Ginning getting another look. He’s been a pleasant surprise to me. I think he’s looked good. 3 games, 1 assist, even, 6 shots, no catastrophic errors. He makes my Top 7 so far.
There’s that Zeev Buium again. Only a -2 tonight . . . against the Black Hawks scrubs. Only a -6 in two pre-season games.
ok now your not sure how much they want him there; despite saying otherwise . got it.
I was pretty clear. The fact you don’t understand there are other factors in the situation is your problem.
making a bet doesn’t equate to “knowing” about gambling.
you offer no proof or evidence the flyers dont like him in guelph. understood. flyers are the nhl version of gueplh. check the standings as you say.
why on earth do you want who the flyers think is their cornerstone center playing 4th line with 2 slugs. that will do wonders for his development and the flyers future. though you have made it clear you do whats “best” for the team in the jetts case. brilliant.
It’s been discussed. Do try to keep up. Already said not sure how much the Flyers weigh the Guelph situation.
Why on Earth do you want who the Flyers think is their cornerstone center playing on a first line in Guelph with two slugs?
Alex Bump and Jett Luchanko are The pressing at this point. Getting a goal would do Bump a world of good. Meanwhile, Luchanko is playing too safe and seems anxious to rid of the puck rather than protecting it or making a play.
Unfortunately, there has also been “poor play described as just OK” as well: Noah Juulsen and Helge Grans fit that description.
Yet, Tocchet is saying the Flyers are, overall, playing with too much risk. Seems like Luchanko is doing what the coach wants. He looks to me like a pretty safe, responsible player even if the offense is lacking. I’m thinking they’ll take that since Jett is only working for a depth role. It’s not like they’re looking for Top 6 level scoring from him. I’m not worried about Bump, but you do have to bear down near your own goal with only a couple seconds left on the clock. Situational awareness. Ersson did too. He might be the odd man out at this point because he can go to LHV.
Grans needs to go back to LHV. The situation is in his head. He’s at the crash and burn/meltdown stage. That’s in everyone’s best interest. Tocchet has said Juulsen can play better. He’s coming off surgery and hadn’t played since February before camp. The D situation is much more messy than the forwards. I see five guys going for three spots and figure they’ll all get two more games. May the least terrible D-men win.
I will take any bets the jett will never be a legit top 6 center in the nhl. now maybe by default on a shit bottom team.
why don’t the flyers like him at guelph?
I thought you don’t know anything about gambling.
Well, the team stinks for sure. You can check the standings for that. Apparently, they don’t consider it to be a great environment for development either. The world juniors will take Jett away from whatever team he’s on for 3-4 weeks. I think he gets the 8 game look here. Take a look back at Shane Wright and Seattle. Kind of a similar situation. They were unhappy with him in Kingston.
Eh, everyone’s got an opinion. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. I agree with you that he’ll make the team, just not the reasoning why. Just more data points.
A little sensitive on Zeev it seems though with him playing his 1st preseason game.
Jett on the other hand is playing his 2nd full preseason after making the team out of camp last year (as the youngest flyer ever in history in case you didn’t know) and playing in the AHL playoffs. It’s a shame he pooped the bed after all that hype last year. More should be expected of him.
There’s no pressure on Zeev right now or on the ones who drafted him. The pressure is all on DB and Jett. If he’d been drafted by a better franchise he would be just another prospect in the pipeline that nobody outside the org cared about and free to develop on his own timeline whereas on the Flyers they expect him to be their #1 center sooner rather than later, which, imo, would be a disaster if it happens at any point.
I think Jett will get the 8 game look again and we’ll see what happens from there. Guelph is a complicating factor. The Flyers don’t like him there and it’s there or the Flyers unless he’s traded from Guelph. But his actual play is responsible, he’s not hurting them out there and it’s up to the guys at the top of the depth chart to win them games.
I’m not sensitive about Buium, just amused by the double standard. Imagine: the Flyers could have had Zeev and Grans as a pairing! I didn’t just look at the -4 on the scoresheet. I watched the goals against. Zeev melted down in that game. The guy is further away than Jett and not just because of the position difference. No pressure on MIN? They are a playoff team. Yeah, there’s more pressure on them than the Flyers.
Jett is maybe 3 years away from being a Top 6 center here. 3C? Maybe only two. In the meantime, he’s a responsible two way player with speed at a position the Flyers aren’t deep in.
Once again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
If they carry 14 forwards, then it’s between Jett and Bump for #14. All this is academic if a forward gets hurts before the opener. They all make it then unless it’s one of them that gets hurt. All you have to do is be able to read a depth chart. Luchanko didn’t display enough risk taking? Tocchet literally said last night the Flyers are playing with too much risk. Listen to the post game presser. Jett is a responsible player. People are applying Top 6 standards when the team only needs competent 4th line play from him. Do no harm. He’s delivering on that. Yes, send the guy back to juniors, he’s listening to the coach and not a hockey blogger!
In the meantime, Zeev Buium was a -4 in his pre-season debut and three of those goals were on him. He’s making Helge Grans look like Rod Langway.
