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FlyerFrank
Participantyou look how they were constructed. are you that blind to see how those cores was assembled? flyers nowhere close to either team in how they were assembled. you live in fantasyland.
keep signing mid level dreck will keep the flyers exactly where they are.
Edmonton has only been a top team the last four years. Florida has only been a top team the last four years. Edmonton absolutely built more through the draft. EDM has two Dmen they drafted, FLA only one. They drafted Ekblad, traded for Jones and the rest are free agents. The Flyers have draft picks to build up the forwards.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantNo one close in the next 5 years. They have one D prospect who projects to be an NHL player. One. Outside of Bonk they have nothing but potential bottom pair guys, if they even pan out.
You need to take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantTired of wasting money on mid level guys. if going to over pay get top end at this point. ‘Now top end wont want to come here is the problem without a big overpay. flyers may not have much choice to get ekblad (as an example) for 7 years 9-10 million per.
Ceci was a Top 4 guy for a team that went to the conference finals. Ekblad won’t sign here. That’s pure fantasy. Take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantHow is what I posted propping him up as a superstar?
He is a young vet who may not want a long term deal if he sees no path to contention. In that case he may want a short term deal. Then move on if he doesn’t like what he sees.
They have no one close to supplanting him.
Why would the Flyers want to sign York to a long term deal?
No one close this coming year and likely next. Which is why you sign him . . . to a bridge deal.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantHow on earth you draw the conclusion I am making him sound like a superstar is very odd
Because you wrote this:
York would want a bridge. Test the coaching waters out first. See how the team is constructed in the next few years.
I prefer the Flyers sign York to a bridge deal. I don’t necessarily think he’s a guy you can literally build your D around. If he is around for years to come, I would hope somebody comes in and supplants him on the top pair. Again, they have no D prospects that will help this year. Maybe a couple will get a look due to injury.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantMaybe it’s me though seems you said let him walk.
Not any time soon. He’s a top pairing guy here on a defense that needs an upgrade badly. You’re making it sound like he’s some superstar who is in a position to see how the new coaching staff does and see how management builds the team the next couple or more years. It’s not like he’s another Makar. He’s not a top pairing guy on, I would say, most teams in the league.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantWhy would you let him walk? That makes no sense at all.
I said it’s not going to happen soon but I’d like to see the Flyers build a Cup winning capable defense. York is getting close, experience wise, to being what he is as an NHL player. I hope he surprises me and takes a big step up this year. If he doesn’t, they need to upgrade the slot. That doesn’t necessarily mean letting him walk, that’s why I said hopefully. I don’t see him topping out as a top pairing Dman on a legitimate Cup contender. Sanheim, on the other hand, I do.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantAlso agree York would want a bridge. Test the coaching waters out first. See how the team is constructed in the next few years.
Hopefully, the team is constructed in such a way they can afford to let him walk as a UFA. But for now, he’s a top pairing guy here. That won’t change this season.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantI hope they do get some combination of Soucy, Ceci, and Hague. Would be par for the course.
10 million for 7 years may get Ekblads attention.
I’d be happy as a clam with Ceci and Hague. Two holes in one off season filled. Might even be overkill depending on Ristolainen. Watching Florida this playoffs, you can see how well they support the puck and watching the Flyers last season, you could see how lacking they were in that too often. The D is a big part of that. Guys who can fill one or two holes on the blueline are available. There are UFAs, teams that are cash strapped. Of course, they could make an offer for Marner . . . .
FlyerFrank
ParticipantLast thing the Flyers need is another 3rd pair defender.
A 3rd pairing Dman isn’t necessarily that here. They should get an in-depth report on him from Tocchet who Soucy played for in VAN. Regardless, I’m throwing every sleeper name I see out there. I’m pretty sure we agree they need an upgrade on the blueline. Ekblad isn’t signing here. The Flyers need to be realistic. One Top 4 guy is essential. Adding two would be better. I don’t like the Flyers D that much after Sanheim and Seeler is good in his role.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantAccording to reports, the team see Carson Soucy and the final year of his deal with a $3.25 million salary cap hit as one that could and should be moved as GM Chris Drury looks to sure up the back end of this Rangers lineup that has seen major changes in recent times, notably with the trade of Ryan Lindgren.
Hopefully, no more than a 3rd pairing guy here but he’s apparently available. Would add this guy before Zibanejad who is overpaid, has 5 years left on his deal and his scoring numbers are likely sagging.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantBuild up the forwards through the draft. It’s not complicated and we have the picks.
FlyerFrank
Participanthypothetically who says no:
tippet for zebanejad.
Cap hit of $8.5M for another 5 years for a guy who is, now, maybe a .75 PPG and likely to sag. I wouldn’t give up anything for him. That contract is an albatross.
FlyerFrank
Participant“Sources confirmed to Kurz that the Flyers will not be in the market for big-name free agents come July 1. While general manager Daniel Briere and the front office have nearly $19MM in cap space (per PuckPedia), they seem content to continue to resign their own younger players. Excluding non-roster players, the Philadelphia Flyers have two restricted free agents remaining—York and winger Jakob Pelletier—and no unrestricted free agents. It appears the Flyers are opting to retain a roster similar to last season’s, with Tocchet and his coaching staff aiming to maximize player performance and development.”
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/06/metropolitan-notes-york-flyers-free-agency-zibanejad.html
They do have the cap space for the UFAs I think they need (Top 4 D and goalie) and, again, I’m fine with them staying the course on building the forwards through the draft.
FlyerFrank
ParticipantLeBrun says the Pens are the only bottom-feeder currently selling… the rest are trying to add lol.
So Flyers trying to “improve” while the Pens are making plans to tank for McKenna…
I like where the Flyers are better than PGH. Unless the Pens are willing to sell Crosby, Malkin, Letang or Karlsson they’ll be bad but too good to finish at the absolute bottom. They don’t have a whole lot else to sell. Rust or Rakell? They could be Top 9 guys in a lot of places. I can actually see a path for the Flyers. Whether they follow it or not . . . WE WILL SEE! Hahahahaha!
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