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Your forgot one other very important thing in why Marner is having the success he is now in Vegas (that he didn’t in Toronto):
3. He is now on a team where he is not part of the leadership group, virtually unknown outside of the rink, & is not expected to be one of the core group who will live or die based on the team’s success. He sits behind Mark Stone, Shea Theadore, Jack Eichel, Karlsson, Hanifin in that regard. Let’s call a spade a spade – he was in that position in Toronto and he (and the rest of the core) couldn’t deliver full stop.
And you forgot the most important part; the Leafs can’t build a team. As soon as Marner left, the Leafs fell off a cliff and he went to the Cup Final.
Facts are facts.
I am coping apparently you are not and are a fucking huge liar.
Shots on goal
Game 1 Col 38 Vegas 28
Game 2 Col 31 Vegas 25
Game 3 Col 35 Vegas 23
Also you were licking Freddie’s balls after 2 rounds of playing bad teams. He has been horrible against the Habs. So quit making excuses for 2nd line Mitch. Yeah the fucking guy who had 3 points (only 1 that was at 5 vs 5) against Colorado. He piled up the points against weak teams.
So lay off the drugs, get back to reality and you will realize we are coping.
I gave Hart credit for playing better than he has all year. He’s let in a lot of shitty goals this year. I said they held Colorado to 21 shots in Game 4, not the entire series. They also held Colorado to 0 PP goals, something Marner had a direct hand in that you will never give him credit for because you’re a retard who needs to die on the hill of blue and white dumbasses.
The Habs have a horseshoe up their ass. They play low quality hockey and get lucky breaks. But again, why is it that former Leafs are in the Final Four while the Leafs are golfing? Because you’re too retarded, like the franchise, to realize what talent is.
You must be getting high off Nylander’s hair spray again or maybe you got his balls slapping your chin so hard you can’t see the screen anymore. Marner leads the playoffs in scoring and is in the Stanley Cup Final. The Leafs are one of the worst teams in the league without him. Cope harder bitch ass retard.
It doesn’t matter anymore. He’s gone. He acted like a mercenary during contract talks. His father disparaged the franchise, during said talks. He was treated like a God and was the toast of the town, with Willy and Austin. I don’t forgive him for not waiving his no trade when the Leafs wanted to trade him to Carolina for Mikko Rantanen. He just decide to screw the team over and did so. Marner is no leader. He always had someone shielding him for his on ice play. He always played with the top talent, with the Leafs, or in International play. He also made the comment about his dark days in Toronto. Can I have a serving of this? I’ll take $11M plus to put up with Steve Simmonds, etc. I wish him luck in winning a Stanley Cup. I think the Leafs needed to go in a different direction and the Draft Lottery provides this opportunity. Now, they just need to give the memo to Rielly and a few other freeloaders who’ve gotten too comfortable in Toronto.
Absolutely wrong. Leafs low balled him not realizing how important he was to the success of the Leafs. Leafs franchise deserves to be disparaged because they’re run by a bunch of retards and supported by even more retards. He was the scapegoat, not a God while Tavares wore his pajamas and completely disappeared vs. the Panthers but receives nothing but love because he plays for cheap while the team loses games. 100% his right to not waive to go to Carolina. He wanted to stay in Toronto. The team ran him out of town and turned the fans against him to buy themselves another year of freedom from responsibility for building a shit team around the biggest load of talent they’ve had since 1967.
You aren’t worth 11 million. He is. Yes, he’s a public figure but the majority of the hatred that came from the team, media and the fans was misdirected and Toronto has become a shithole city so why put up with it any longer when the franchise, the media and the fans give you every reason to leave it behind? To keep some retards happy so they can blame you the next time the team fucks up again?
You are in full blown Marner Derangement cope mode using Lib logic. The Leafs went in a “different direction” thinking they could contend for a Cup without him. They ended up one of the worst teams without him. Again, clearly Rielly has sucked for years but who got pushed out of town? Marner. Why? Because the Leafs are way too “nice” to push the actual dog shit players out and keep the good ones.
You have to remember, McKenna was a superior talent in junior. He decided to go to the NCAA because he wanted to play against players older than him, that were more polished. He started slow, but turned it on in the second half. He still averaged more than 2 points a game, in a league that’s known for low scoring games. He had an 8 point game in the NCAA, a record that will be hard to break. There’s a reason that many in the know, across the NHL, pick him to be the first overall pick. This is one of these times that you take a player like him and he explodes into a top 10 NHL player going forward. He could also be a 75 point player, which is fine, but not a first overall. A big issue is, do you want to be the GM that passed on this guy and he goes on to set records in points production and wins an Art Ross and the Hart Trophy or the Conn Smythe? It’s a conundrum, but it sure is a good one to have. The alternative was Boston picking at #6. If you watched the final balls dropping at the draft, there was a ball that would have put Winnipeg into the #1 spot but just missed, before #12 ended up in the hopper. If that had happened, Boston would be drafting at #6. It was pure luck and maybe it’s Karma that’s telling them to make that pick. Of course, getting a deal from Vancouver that nets you #3 plus a top end defensive prospect, or another 1st isn’t bad either.
Alexis Lafreniere scored a lot of points in junior. He was 1st overall. Where are the Rangers now? A high scoring junior, small, one-way winger doesn’t change a franchise.
Small, weak, doesn’t play defense, not a generational talent. He’s not winning any Art Ross, Hart or Conn Smythe trophies. Not happening with McDavid, MacKinnon, Celebrini and many other much better, more elite offensive players in the league for the next 10 years. Even if he does score like crazy, his lack of a two-way game and position of being a winger will always hurt his team just like how Tavares and Nylander score but absolutely suck defensively. McKenna is way more likely to be another Nylander than to be any kind of MVP. Nylander is fine as a one-way winger but we’ve seen that movie before in Toronto and it doesn’t end with a Stanley Cup.
Stenberg is a better overall player at #1 and trading down for another 1st and getting a solid RHD top 5 pick is better too. McKenna isn’t the guy that fixes the Leafs franchise. The Leafs need to draft and build a team with winning a Cup in mind. The days of drafting whoever scores the most but loses when it matters should be over.
What I hate about him is his lack of physical skill and his crybaby nonsense. It’s all I’ve ever said and it’s all I’ll ever say.
Bullshit. Marner goes in the corners, he goes to the front of the net and he does it even though he’s one of the smallest guys on the ice. It’s just a made up narrative your dumbass believes.
The “crybaby” shit is more garbage you buy from media. None of his current teammates or coach buy that garbage but you do. It’s retarded and false.
I think the vast majority of Leaf fans want to move on and would like nothing better than to not talk about Marner actually.
The vast majority of Leaf fans that want to “move on” because they were so happy to run him out of town. Now that he’s proven them wrong, they want to pretend it doesn’t exist to avoid admitting being wrong.
It’s the media and here specifically the one unhinged retard who is convinced everything and everyone else was the problem in Toronto for 9 years and Marner was never even 1% of the playoff failures.
No retard, the media is also doing what it does best; it sells drama to simpletons like you. They help run him out of town by getting retards like you to endorse it then laugh in your face after he makes you all look stupid for believing the drivel they sold you in the first place. Rinse. Repeat. Profit.
Vegas may very well win the cup and Marner very well may win the Conn Smythe but neither of those things will erase the 9 years of Marner in Toronto nor the way he left Toronto.
Vegas doesn’t have to win the Cup or the Conn Smythe. It’s already been proven that the Leafs were wrong and that they were a problem. Marner leads the playoffs in scoring, in the Cup Final and the Leafs are a lottery team. Marner wasn’t the problem and is clearly a vital piece to a successful team. Verifiable proven fact. Reality. Accept it. His 9 years in Toronto were because Toronto is garbage. The team never addressed the real issues with the team, the team never hired the right coach and the market itself made him a scapegoat when he single handedly didn’t do everything by himself.
Anyone still crying, bitching, and moaning about a guy who hasn’t worn a leafs jersey for over a year is nothing more than a whiny little bitch.
You’re literally the reason leafs nation looks bad.
Cheers.
Anyone still have severe Marner Derangement Syndrome? Anyone still retardedly blaming Marner for the failures of the Leafs while he leads the playoffs in scoring, entering the Stanley Cup Final while the Leafs were a lottery team without him?
No retard. The reason Leafs Nation looks bad is because of dumbass retards like you of which there are far too many. Complete dumb shit retards who ran Marner out of town only to have him prove you all wrong. That’s what makes Leafs Nation look retarded and bad. Took a kid who wanted so badly to play for the Leafs, to win with the Leafs and used him as a scapegoat only to fall flat on your face as soon as he left to succeed somewhere else.
No different than Larry Murphy, Nazem Kadri, Alex Steen, Phil Kessel and a long, long list of other players thrown to the curb by Leafs Nation (and management) only to watch them win a Cup somewhere else while Leafs fans bury their dumbass heads in the sand trying to create another excuse why it’s not the Leafs fault for their own fuck ups.
Another bunch of turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.
1 even strength point in 4 games against Colorado (a real team) missing the best D in the world for 2 games. Carter Hart was MVP of that series and stole the first 2 games even though some knob gobbler said Hart would be the reason Vegas does not win the cup. Carry on.
Your dumbass was wrong. Again. It took you a lot of terrible sentences but in the end that’s what your garbage post amounts to; you were wrong again.
Marner leads the playoffs in scoring. He scores at 5v5, he scores on the PP and he scores shorthanded. Speaking of shorthanded (like your IQ), pretty sure Colorado had 0 PP goals vs Vegas. Makar did play in 2 games and Marner helped shut down that PP. Of course, your retarded ass won’t give him credit for it because you’re still coping with the fact that the Leafs absolutely fucked up again and are now one of the worst teams in the NHL without Marner.
Hart has played better than he has all year. Good for him. But Colorado could barely generate shots making his life a lot easier. Blackwood stood on his head and Vegas would have blown them out had he not made some amazing saves. Colorado had 21 shots in an elimination game. Vegas’ defense, which Marner is a key part of, sometimes leading the entire team in ice time (yes, even more than the D), just strangled them into being able to generate nothing.
Colorado looked like the Leafs and Vegas looked like Boston and Marner proved to your dumbass, again, that he wasn’t the problem.
Don’t know if they can beat Carolina because they’re a very strong team, playing a very tough style but if Marner can lead the playoffs in scoring into the Cup Final, it’s proven more than enough that the Leafs were the problem, not him.
Cope harder dumbass bitch.
Celebrini was not considered one of the high end #1 picks.
“Six NHL scouts and executives were polled”
granted not a big sample, but gives an idearanked after Jack hughes
I think he would rank #2 now after Mcdavid
The idiots they polled must have worked for the Leafs and had no clue idea what they were talking about. It’s no surprise the New York Times is full of bullshit polls though.
Celebrini had 32 goals and 64 points and +25 in his draft year in the NCAA.
McKenna had 15 goals and 51 points and -7 in his draft year in the NCAA.
Celebrini was always legit. He also plays C. McKenna isn’t at that level.
