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Well technically they got Micelli, Roy and 7.6 mil cap space left for what Marner would take up in your fantasy world
Plan the parade.
I just don’t get it: we’ve been watching this same core 4 shit the bed over and over and over again, to the point where we’re (still) the laughing stock of the league, just a different brand of Maple Laffs.
We move Marner and get a serviceable 3C and our center depth is as good as it has been in years. We land a young playmaker with lots of upside for peanuts. Our D is still very good, our goaltending is still very good… we have cap space, the GM isn’t signing terrible UFA deals, and we’re in really good shape to make a trade for a bonefide top 6 winger especially if we can move out Kampf and Reaves and have all summer to do it.
Some of you just want to be miserable.
And some of you just want to pretend like whatever this team does will always work. Even though it never does.
If the “core 4” was shit, trade Rielly. He’s been here the longest. Tavares was paid the most and did nothing except destroy the cap situation and inflate the cost of everybody else and play the worse defense of any top-six forward. Nylander disappeared after Game 3 but nobody said a peep because his hair is allowed to be dry while he plays. Matthews has been a disappearing act many times, nobody cares because he scored 69 regular season goals (followed by 1 playoff goal) and seems to always have an excuse whether it’s an undisclosed injury or shitting his pants. Better than dropping his pants in public I guess.
There’s piles of shit this team force feeds it’s fans and some people just love shoveling it into their mouths, waiting for the next playoff failure and offseason of excuses. Can’t wait to see who the next scapegoat will be while the old scapegoats win Cups.
ppy to see your team get worse if it means you can hate on me. Tracks perfect.
We are a long long way from the Playoffs, no marner opens up a lot of opportunity to build a stronger team. they dont win shit with him.
so yes, I am glad to see you rage shitting your diaper
Yup, Maccelli is going to drive the parade float himself when they sweep 16 straight to win the Cup.
to see UG shit his diaper is worth punting Marner
Good to know you’re happy to see your team get worse if it means you can hate on me. Tracks perfect.
Of all the things that have ever happened, they hadn’t happened until they did happen. Crazy stat.
Marner was nominated for a Selke 3 seasons ago.
i guess that happened
He’s been on the Selke voting list 7 years in a row. He finished 3rd two years ago, 7th this year.
Also averaged 100 points per 82 games 5 years in a row.
MArner wasnt staying…even at a ridiculous $14m.
Apparently he had spoke to players in vegas about vegas earlier in the year.He wasnt staying at all and spending $14m on him…just like $10.9…isnt worth it. HE DISAPPEARS IN PLAYOFF GAMES 5-7.
So move on.
If a person wants to whine about leafs not keeping marner…whine about how marner who apparently was ready to move on, screwed the leafs out of Rantanan.Just like most other bullshit news you believe, you’ll always be a fucking sucker for media lies and narratives, especially when they’re owned by the team.
MArner wasnt staying…even at a ridiculous $14m.
Apparently he had spoke to players in vegas about vegas earlier in the year.He wasnt staying at all and spending $14m on him…just like $10.9…isnt worth it. HE DISAPPEARS IN PLAYOFF GAMES 5-7.
So move on.
If a person wants to whine about leafs not keeping marner…whine about how marner who apparently was ready to move on, screwed the leafs out of Rantanan.Just like most other bullshit news you believe, you’ll always be a fucking sucker for media lies, especially when they’re owned by the team.
I said its not likely, thats not “NEVER”, a modern NHL’er having 3, 60 goal seasons is super rare…so its not likely.
Marner was gone regardless, just listen to his own words now that hes in Vegas.
get over it, hes a big boy made his choice.Marner couldnt take the criticism when he failed to help the team, not cut out for it in Toronto.
It’s more likely than not had they kept Marner that he’d be more productive and more successful.
He made his choice after the Leafs fucked around and found out. His words at some bullshit press conference are irrelevant. Players don’t say anything other than whatever bullshit they’re trained to say to be bland and neutral.
The criticism isn’t what made him leave, as unfounded and irrational as it was. This dogshit management and embarrassment of a media owned franchise is at fault.
I asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards
has a selke nominated 100 point player ever changed teams before?
I doubt thats ever happened to start with, so not possible to win a cupif it has happened, who was it?
otherwise what a stupid questionI haven’t gone through every single player but no, probably has not happened. It’s a perfectly good, valid question. It’s the type of question this management is clearly too stupid to ask itself to realize how dumb they are for allowing it happen.
its not likley Matthews would score 60 again whether Marner was there or not.
Matthews is the only player to do it twice in the last 30 years and anyone who did it 3 times, played in the 80sOvechkin only did it once.
Marner did not want to re-sign, and wouldnt let the Leafs trade him (his right), but still fucking annoying if he was leaving anyway.
no point crying over it. hes goneIf healthy and with Marner, there’s a very good chance Matthews could score 60+ again. That’s why they re-signed him. You think you keep a player at that price if you think he’s NEVER going to be able to do it again?
Marner would have stayed at 14, which was a discount to the 12 he got in Vegas which would have been 16.5 in Toronto. And they should have signed him.
The cap went up 7 AAV. Trade Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and they could have created more cap space. With Tavares and Marner at 4 and 14, it still would have been less than the nearly 22 they cost last year.
The Leafs decided they had to move on because of the idiots in the media and the idiots in the fanbase screaming for change. Now they got change; they got worse.
So I’m just looking things over and here’s a little interest.
Maccelli: $3.43 million (40P estimate)
Roy: $3 million (30P estimate)Find another guy for $3 million who can dump 30P in and bang, there’s Marner’s 100P replaced for $9.43 million while offering far more balanced scoring.
The ship has sailed but I was really hoping to get Brown in the bottom-6 because he’s an exceptional penalty killer and still puts up 30 points / season with limited opportunity to do so.
One way of looking at it is that Marner scored roughly 30 goals but a healthy Auston Matthews will make up half of that. Nic Roy will contribute another 15 from the third line. If Maccelli works out, you get another 15 or so. The question isn’t the offense, per se, it is the penalty killing and the defensive awareness that Marner brought. As much as we all got frustrated when he’d screw up, he did make a lot of good defensive plays and was typically reading plays well and being in the right position to stop plays from developing. Maccelli has some larger shoes to fill there – a more mature Knies will help, a healthy Matthews will help – but I did want them to find a faster guy or two to enhance that PK.
Lots of summer left. Not a lot of options.
You’re forgetting the 60-75+ assists Marner brings. Matthews is more likely to be worse without Marner, don’t see him getting anywhere near 60-70 again. Knies too. The PP will suffer, which means Nylander and Tavares suffer too, which already sucked because of horrid coaching.
I asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards? We’re not talking about a team that has been a proven winner and is losing somebody lower in the line-up. We’re talking about a team that lost it’s #1 point producer and can’t even get out of the 2nd round and just got worse while their #1 competitor is as good, potentially better when they get to the next trade deadline.
Nic Roy is a 3rd line winger. He’s not a replacement like Tkachuk was for Huberdeau. This team has not yet and probably never will recover from losing such a high prized asset for next to nothing.
Mangiapane, gone to Edmonton for 3.6 AAV after his worst season. Dodged another bullet. But still would have been better than Maccelli.
You know an interesting thing . . . has anyone seen any of the Leafs players post farewells to Marner? Knies reposted the Leafs PR release. Usually teammates post emotional farewells to their friends and I haven’t seen anyone say anything about it.
I’m not saying they wanted it to happen or that they’re happy it did – but it doesn’t feel like anyone is all that devastated that he left. I find that a little strange. I don’t think he was a problem in the room – but maybe some of that yelling he was doing at the team while he was also flailing and failing was just wearing a little too thin.
This is a cope.
Nazeeeeeem!
In true Leafs fashion, run a guy out of town at his best and his cheapest for a pile of shit in return, then bring him back after he’s won a Cup somewhere else and is washed and overpaid.
