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Matthews can’t play defense without Marner. He keeps getting worse in his own end. And Tavares is like -13. What a fucking joke. Trying to play every game to win 5-4.
I dont care about that, it doesnt mean you cant win. Florida has 3 players they drafted, Barkov, Lundell and Ekblad, all the rest were signed or traded for.
the problem is trading for Carlo and Laughtons while Florida trades for Marchand and JonesYou should care about it because that’s the best way to acquire talent without a significant cost. Florida was excellent at finding value in players given away for free. The Leafs do the opposite, they let go of talent and don’t draft well enough to make up for it.
You know what else Florida did? They signed Bob. And people like you said they were stupid. The Leafs haven’t had an elite starting goalie in 20 years. They haven’t developed one either. They have two back-ups who are always injured.
Marchand and Jones wanted to play in Florida. Nobody great wants to play in Toronto. Not anybody who can win anyway. Just pajama boy and he’s a career playoff loser. The team isn’t strong enough to attract talent, the weather is shit, the taxes are absurd and management is retarded. You know what options that leaves you with? Learn to draft and develop players. Create a team through the draft that is so strong that players care more about playing here to win than all the negatives about playing in Toronto
It’s got to be in your core group, not just add ons. This is what they have tried the whole Matthew’s era to no avail.
Like I said earlier, would you have drafted Matthew Tkachuk over Matthews and risked drafting Nick Ritchie over Nylander?
The Leafs elected to draft elite talent. That’s fine. The mistake they made was not keeping the heart and soul grit guys they did manage to find like Hyman and Kadri as the glue.
I agree with you, hard work beats skill when skill refuses to work hard but I could make a team of hard working 4th liners that won’t win a single game because they just can’t score enough goals.
The Leafs need to tear it down and rebuild it back up but do it with balance at every position and every characteristic.
The Leafs have been chasing the Character grit leadership fantasy for half dozen years..just off the top of my head, all these players were to fill those needs . Muzzin, Simmonds, Foligno, Bogosian, Clifford, Giordano, RoR, Tanev, OEL, Laughton, Pacioretty, Reaves plus whoever
Thortnon, Marleau on and onbut keep trying
You know what is funny about that listen you provided? Not a single one of them were drafted or developed by the Leafs. Not a SINGLE one. And that’s the problem.
Where was the Leafs drafting and development team when all those guys were available on draft day? Were they asleep? Did the Leafs not have a draft pick at all? Or were they busy signing some 2nd tier 5’6″ Swedish winger?
Every single one of those guys the Leafs brought into the organization at either the cost of draft / prospect capital or they signed them when they were past their prime because they wanted to take a retirement lap on their “home” team.
But this franchise just keeps trying to do the same shit and expecting different results.
I get the Laughton love from Leaf fans. He’s a throwback to a different era of Leafs hockey, guys who played with tenacity and gave a f@ck. But he should go because this team is not good enough and needs to be retooled. Having said that, the Leafs need to get a LOT more invested in drafting and acquiring character people. The whole “draft the most talented player” to the detriment of team need and player type has resulted in a team with zero leadership, and that folds when things get difficult.
Would you have drafted Matthew Tkachuk over Auston Matthews?
That’s the issue; having the elite talent is always too tempting to pass on. The issue isn’t having elite talent. The issue is not blending in enough character with elite talent.
For example, having Matthews is one thing but having Matthews plus Nylander is another. But at the same time, if the Leafs had drafted Nick Richie over Nylander, they’d be worse off.
There are players out there who play with skill and heart, the Leafs just need to find them. They had a chance at Sam Bennett before he left Calgary. They said no. They had Kadri and Hyman. They let them go. The players are available, they’re even within our system, the management team has just been too stupid to identify them or keep them.
Unless you pay to have all stars at every position which only one team in the league does.
And only one team wins. Such a Canadacuck. Maybe the Dodgers will share the World Series with the Jays if they ask nicely since “only one team” can invest in the best players available. No, retard, only one team is WILLING to spend more money to win. The Jays spend money but don’t want to go all the way. They could take the money they wanted to give to Tucker and give it to another top player. But they won’t. And that’s why the Dodgers won last time and why they will next time too.
It really was. No point in comparing our offseason to the Dodgers, they just do whatever TF they want. Compared to just about every other team in the league, the Jays killed it. Run with this team, see what needs to be tweaked around the trade deadline, then target guys to fill those holes.
It takes a lot of things to go your way to get to the big show, and a lot went right for the Jays last year. Hopefully, they can spark that magic again for another run.
The Dodgers beat the Jays. The Dodgers beat the Jays in the offseason. Why will the World Series result be any different? The Jays need to do more if they expect to actually win this time. It’s basic.
I Highly doubt the leafs would actually be sellers, but the only 3 players I would have on my no trade is Matthews, Knies and Cowan, trade the rest
Wow, Nylander has not made the list. Impressive.
For me, I would hang on to Laughton unless he wants too much $$$ on his next contract.
You might not get what the Leafs paid to acquire him.Absolutely makes no sense to keep Laughton. His best years are clearly behind him and yes his next contract is a trap contract. He has 8 goals and 10 points. Half his value is based on reputation of years past because his actual output is actual shit and replaceable. He’s not that good. But he’s useful enough to a desperate playoff team to give up a 1st round pick as insurance which is exactly what the Leafs stupidly did last year.
If he wants to come back, he can come back after the Leafs trade him for a 1st round pick. The Leafs don’t need to recover everything they gave up to get him but at minimum they need to bring back a 1st round pick.
If the Leafs do, by some miracle, fire Treliving and/or come to their senses about their inability to compete for a Stanley Cup this year, the prime candidates to be traded are: Laughton, Carlo, Maccelli, McMann, Jarnkrok, Roy and Stecher.
Between those 7 guys, the Leafs could bring in a lot of draft capital. Laughton, Carlo, McMann and Roy could be in the 1st round pick conversation. Maccelli and Stecher could bring in a 2nd each. Jarnkrok could be a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Having sven more draft picks might not do anything for them this year or next year but if they have the right scouts, that could pay dividends in the future.
From a “value” perspective, having that influx of draft capital could probably help the Leafs land an impact player if they flipped it all for a top-six forward or top-four D.
Either way, the names listed above should all be traded by the deadline.
Ah gee, Nylandergate is upon us
cause gave the middle finger to the TSN camera.
Another example of a total lack of maturity from Nylander. He’s been in this market long enough to know better. He’s not a leader, he’s a man child who cares more about how his hair looks than doing what it takes to win a Stanley Cup.
