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Mitch is on their L2
He is on their 3rd pair of PKers
Cassidy doesn’t seem to have him on ice to protect leads – at least he’s not one of the first 6 forwards in rotation. So almost the 3rd (not pair but trio) in that situation as well.
Very good offensive talent. Nobody can argue that.
Speaking of things people can’t argue – JT looking like a complete and utter steal as a 2C at his cost. Insane!
Also found out that he finished Top 10 in Selke voting twice! With most recent 2019. I don’t feel he’s a good defensive forward at all but as I’ve always said – these awards (minus Teddy’s and stats ones) are dumb and pointless awards voted by folks who never played (media dorks).
Marner is 2nd in ice time among VGK forwards.
How is he 3rd pair on the PK when he is 2nd in PK time among forwards? Makes no sense, like most of what you spew.
JT is garbage when it matters most. His value in October means nothing.
He did not finish top 10 in Selke voting in 2019, he finished 19th. Another basic reading of numbers you failed miserably at.
He’s been useless defensively in the playoffs in recent years. On the ice for most goals against last year in the playoffs. Horribly exposed vs. the Panthers.
lol UG the definition of the second line isn’t based on ice time. I’m not saying he’s playing bad but yes, he is on the second line.
The connotation of “2nd line” is that he is not a 1st choice player. His total situational ice time proves otherwise.
Nylander was on the “2nd” line but he is still the first choice RW.
Didn’t realize Marner was 2nd line in Vegas
Marner is 2nd only to Eichel in ice time among forwards on Vegas.
15 min 5v5, 4 min PP, 1:20 min on PK per game average.
The idea that he’s on the “2nd line” is like saying Draisaitl is on the 2nd line when he’s not playing with McDavid. It’s designed to punish other teams with match-ups.
a trade proposal from moi.
Chinakhov for McMann straight up.
Robertson to the Calgary for their 2026 2nd round pick.
Terrible on the McMann idea.
Robertson isn’t worth shit until he scores 20.
That’s the thing, you don’t need to earned faith.
yeah, they’re a little ruff right now.Yes, they do. It’s been 58 years. Blind faith is for cults.
you guys, yeah, you guys don’t have faith in the Leafs.
They haven’t earned it.
Really? Then why couldn’t Matthews score worth a shit last year either? This is a long term injury and I’m starting to think he’s no longer the same player he once was.
As for JT, you’ll never convince me you wishful thinker. This guy had his ELC, then nothing more than a 6 year contract to make him a UFA, at which point he bolted for Toronto, signed a 7 year deal, then gave a big discount to stay for 4 more years. Keep dreaming UG, the partial NMC for the last 2 years arent for him, they’re for the leafs, in case they need his cap space for a true cup run, nothing more.
Because Matthews had a rib injury last year and couldn’t heal because he wouldn’t sit out for a long time. This year, he’s playing with significantly less help from a lack of an elite playmaker.
He’s fully capable of being an elite player but he’s doing it alone now and that’s a difficult adjustment because he’s never had to play in the NHL without the elite playmaking of Marner.
Tavares came to Toronto because he jumped from a non-playoff team to a contender. Yes, he was “coming home” but if the Leafs were still in last place, he would have never come. Just like he won’t stay if they trade all their best players and tank again. The wishful thinking is that he wants to lose in the last years of his career. He took a “discount” because he thought he was helping the team win, not because he was being nice.
Sundin is not JT, not from TO and did not grow up loving the team. Mentally their attachment to the leafs is not equal, please get a grasp on this.
Knies is an American who will only stay under 53.53% taxation when the league has limited bonuses to 60% now to push talent back down to the southern US with a talented team. The league doesn’t want the cup won by a Canadian team, hell they don’t even really want it won by northern US teams, they want it won where they’re trying to build the league. Financially everything is groomed for teams in low taxation states. So it’s a safe bet that unless a Canadian team is a competitor don’t expect an talented American to want to play up here.
What your brain can’t seem to grasp is that Tavares won’t play for a lottery team. No matter how much you want to believe he will only play for Toronto, the REALITY is, he only wants to be here if he can WIN. If the Leafs were a lottery team, he would have never joined. And he won’t stay to be on a lottery team as his career winds down to a close and he still has no Cup to show for it.
Knies may or may not want to stay. But since he’s under contract, they’re better off finding that out later and not sooner.
wtf is with your Marner addiction? Matthews is still getting a shit ton of shots, they’re just not as good as they once were, it’s not Marner he’s missing, it’s himself.
As for overpaying it’s Ontario, so they have to. The player doesn’t give a rats ass about their cap hit, they’re just not are an individual who cares about their take home, you know, like everyone else does when it comes to their salaries? Do you care more about what your pay cheque is or what it costs the company you work for?
And yes, I’m starting to see the 2 year window as well. Unless there is some sort of unexpected big deal that occurs.
Marner made Matthews better, it’s an obvious fact. Marner got Matthews better passes, better shots, better scoring chances and was a lot more useful on the PP. Marner missing is a huge part and it’s why Berube can’t find anybody to play with Matthews. Matthews was defensive dog shit vs. the Devils and that’s the type of game Marner helped stabilize him.
For the 100th time, if the Leafs blow up the team and trade everybody, the cap will be at 100 million by 2028. And their roster will be filled with ELCs. They could afford to overpay to keep some guys under 30 and it would be just fine.
You’re retarded. At no point in my post did I say the Leafs weren’t dogshit at the moment, but you’re too blind, or stupid, to have noticed what I wrote.
I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but professional sports teams are able to trade players, prospects, and picks to improve their team. Literally, the entire point of my post was that there are going to be changes to this team. God, you’re a complete idiot.
Sorry you’re too retarded to understand that this team has nothing to trade to improve the team. If they did have those types of assets, they’d have done it already. They have no 1st round pick until 2028 because they already wasted the 26 and the 27 1st round pick on such amazing all-stars as Laughton and Carlo. Sorry your room temp IQ can’t grasp that concept. Complete and total retard.
Getting back to the Leafs, the team we see this week is not the same team after the TDL. Kampf and Jarny most likely dumped. Laughton (as bad as he’s been) is coming back at some point, and I don’t expect him to be as bad as last year. Matthews and Knies have been called out by the coach, and I expect they’ll get rolling at some point. JT is doing JT things, and Willy is piling up the points. The team had a very similar start last year before winning the division, and they have lots of flexibility to improve. I expect Tre is already working on something to replace Domi on the top line, who knows if it’ll be a HUGE move or a smaller one.
Literally, zero reason to panic.
You’re delusional. This team is dogshit and you’re too blind, or stupid, to see it.
This team isn’t bad enough to miss the playoffs (unless Stolarz or some other major injury) but they aren’t winning a Cup. Lucky to win a round playing like this filth.
For starters every player in the league says they love who they’re playing for so stop caring about that lol
And as much as I hate to say this the truth is simple. Once his contract is coming to an end he will be in his 30s, will no longer be able
To get everything as a bonus on July 1st and play for league minimum, and the leafs will have nothing really worth mentioning in development yet.I really hate to say this man but the leafs have 5 years tops before a rebuild will be needed. They’re already at a decade for this core, no upcoming good picks, prospects aren’t deep, and the core of this team will be 30+ VERY soon.
It’s going to feel like 2010 again before you know it.
Matthews is not injured and has not lost his ability to play or score. He’s just struggling without Marner. His value and his contract would still bring the Leafs a sky high return no matter what some retards think.
Same goes for a lot of other assets the Leafs have. There are teams that overpay at the deadline every, single year. Usually, it’s a team stupid like the Leafs, but there are many others. Teams that are going hard for the playoff run will give up 1st round picks and prospects. The Leafs just have to make the players available.
The Leafs have two chances left. This year (they suck and aren’t going anywhere) and next year. That’s a really small window of opportunity. But that’s all they got left. After that, they have to trade everybody and start the rebuild sooner rather than later. Matthews signed a 4 year deal for a reason. He’s done playing here if there is no chance to win. And it’s hard to blame him after what they did to this team.
Man, JT is at the point where he scores and the leafs still lose. Keep him. He literally IS the Bozak if that’s what you want to call it.
I’m seeing that out of him now tbh, can he play? Yes, does he amplify a linemates game? No.
As for Knies whatever, he won’t look as good without top ten picks on his line, get rid of him when they decide to drop Matthews while he is shiny imo.
And yet those goals could still win some games against bad teams. Also, why keep him when he can get you draft picks or prospects? That’s the same mistake we got stuck with when Sundin refused to waive his NTC. Tavares won’t want to play on a lottery team at 38. He’s still going to want to win a Cup and playing on a trash lottery team doesn’t come before trying to win a Cup.
You’re right about Knies probably does play a lot better with elite line mates and get you a better return but if the Leafs blow up the team and rebuild, but you’ll need him when you have new elite franchise players on ELC and he would still be under 30. And the majority of the team will still be on ELC until he’s 32 which means you can afford to overpay him to stay.
Think of how Chicago had veterans on the team before Kane and Toews showed up. It allowed them to win a Cup a lot faster than expected. I’d rather have Knies at 29 than try to find another one and wait 5 years for him to be ready. If he refuses to play on a tanking Canadian team, you trade him but if you can keep him, you keep him.
A couple of things. 1, Knies is only on a 6 year contract, not 7, the leafs are only going to be just starting their rebuild when it comes time to resign him, he won’t want to stay. So trade him when he plays ramped up with the other guys because face it, he’s a late round 2 guy who won’t look as good without them. Also like I said, he’s from Arizona and really doesn’t give a shit about the leafs unless he’s signed by them.
As for JT your point makes mine even stronger. If the leafs are going into rebuild, and JT is what you say he is, then he’s precisely what they want to keep. The old fucking C along with the old fucking D core til they draft up the new guys to take their places. The. End.
The way the leafs are dumping off their picks means that when they intend to rebuild it’s going to be a Chicago style one so don’t keep anyone in the middle. Old, then young.
Knies is 23 signed until 2031. That means if they trade everybody, tank in 28/29/30, they have Knies until he’s 29. At that point, the Leafs have a team full of ELC and a cap that’s probably at over 100 million a year. If it costs the Leafs 12/13 million to keep Knies happy, they could easily afford to do it. If he wants to leave, then they can trade him. But you can’t trade him now because he gives you under 30 value for the future.
Tavares helps the Leafs lose playoff series, not regular season games. If they want to tank, they’d fill the line-up with two bad goalies and Bozaks, not Tavares. And don’t kid yourself into thinking Tavares would stick around on a lottery team. He’d only play for the Leafs if the believes they can win a Cup. A non-playoff team makes Tavares say bye bye to the pajamas as he chases a Cup in his retirement years, not sitting around TO on a team that loses 60 games. And the Leafs could easily get picks for him that would be way more useful to a rebuild than any kind of loser lessons he’d have to teach.
You and I see Knies differently. He’s a southern American UG, his desire to stick around with a rebuilding Canadian team likely doesn’t exist unless he gets HIGHLY overpaid and while he is good, he isn’t that good. I’d bet he’d walk to a competitor at the end of his contract u less he was offered 50-60% more than he was actually worth.
As for JT I will never understand your hatred, not liking him fine but for you it’s outright hatred. That guy took a discount to stay here and will be him and both him and his family are from there, he offers his home to other players, he is a team man. I guess I’ll just get used to you dreaming about him leaving and bitching about how he doesn’t for the next few years because I’m fully convinced he wants to retire as a leaf and plans to. I know his contract is technically M-NTC in the last 2 years but only to 5 teams he picks. 5 teams UG. Tell me exactly which of the potential top 8 teams would want a 37-38 year old C at over $4 mill? This guy is going to take over the C position once Matthews is moved until a kid is ready to take it over is my guess.
I see Knies as under contract and useful because he would be under 30. He either earns his keep or he doesn’t. Cap space wouldn’t be an issue if you had to overpay him to stay because the Leafs would be closer to the cap floor than the cap ceiling if they traded away all the guys I listed above. And yes, if he has no desire to stay, you trade him when that time comes. But he signed a 7 year deal so he’s locked in until the Leafs decide otherwise.
Tavares sucks. He’s a career loser. Just like Marleau, Thornton, Spezza and all the other home town pylons the Leafs brought in to pretend to be “leaders”. They’re losers. Tavares is a perfectly nice human being but he does not win this team games that matter. His discount is 1000% irrelevant if it yields bad on ice results. If a bad player plays for free, he’s still a bad player. Tavares is a one-way player. He scores and then is the cause of more goals against. He’s the wrong guy for this team. Some “contender” would gladly take him at the trade deadline for half his salary (Leafs could easily retain salary because the cap space wouldn’t matter anymore on a tanking team) and he would waive his NMC because he would rather be on a “pretender contender” than be on a last place, lottery team.
Why keep Knies? His contract would be up 3 years later, and he’ll be 28. Do you think he’ll resign to stick around with a few 20-21 year olds on a rebuilding team? Doubt it.
As for JT please oh please stop your dreaming. He’s signed one year longer than Matthews is and his final year makes him 38. Who would take that at $4 mill? Just let him finish his career where he wants to, it’s why he signed here at this price this past summer and didn’t go somewhere else for the $7 he could have gotten easily. My guess is he retires at the end of the contract and then jumps up into some “administration” role for MLSE after that.
Because he would become the new leader of the team. 3 years at that price would work great. And if they had to pay him to stay, so be it, the Leafs will have plenty of cap space as most of the team will be on ELC. Absolutely wouldn’t trade Knies until way, way later.
No, fuck Tavares. He’s part of the problem. But he wouldn’t stay on a lottery team anyway. He’d take the first ticket out of town. At 38, he will want to be a passenger on a contender. Playing in Toronto only really matters to him if he thinks he has a chance to win. If the Leafs were a lottery team, he’d never have come in the first place.
