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Brad better not fumble this shit, Leafs have a penchant for selling at the wrong times or not at all.
Mcmann is cool and all, but he is 29 not like they are moving a young up and comer.Treliving is the most Leafy GM they’ve had in more than a decade. He absolutely will fuck this up.
I will say one thing about McMann, even though he’s probably going to get overpaid, Hyman was in the same boat when the Leafs let him walk. He signed for 5.5 and went on to score 50 after 30.
Not saying McMann will for sure score 50 but he’s fast, he’s a big body and he has a decent shot; all qualities better than Hyman. As much as I want the Leafs to sell high on him and bring in a 1st, knowing the Leafs history, he could be another one that got away.
All that being said, the odds are, he won’t be more than what he is now and the Leafs are better off with the draft pick and trying their luck to bring him back if he hits the UFA market.
apparently nothing will but you gotta start somewhere.
No, nothing will fix this fundamentally broken team, especially not a spending spree on a weak UFA options which include: 37 year old Bob. 40 year old Ovechkin. 36 year old John Carlson. 40 year old Malkin. Patrik Laine. Jacob Trouba. Kevin Hayes. Anders Lee. Shall I continue?
Absolutely nobody available can save this team. The “start somewhere” is fire Treliving and trade everybody over 25. The only UFAs the Leafs need are to reach the cap floor and picking up cheap contracts you can flip for a pick at the deadline.
Leafs have $20M+ next year. Throw a bunch of cash to pry Raddysh out of Tampa, and see who you can find to fill a top 6 winger role. Rebuild complete.
Yes because overspending on UFAs always solves the Leafs problems, every, single, time. Like Tavares. Leafs signed him from Long Island and won so many Stanley Cups, his cap hit didn’t matter anymore.
The UFA class for next year won’t solve a fucking thing for this broken team.
All I can say is this: Leafs just need to win every game that they possibly can. It’s obvious that they’re not finishing in the bottom 5. They only have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. They have to hold off Florida and catch either Boston or Buffalo. As the season gets later, the 3 point games will be telling, when it’s time to make a playoff push. The other only reason is, to deny the Bruins a higher 1st round pick that the Leafs traded to them. Giving them a top 10 pick would be disaster. Finishing outside of a playoff spot would make it around 14 or 15. Too many Western teams will have a worse record. The problem is, Florida and Ottawa are also close to the Leafs. They need to get some picks through trades and still be competitive down the stretch. Finish strong and rebound through free agency and having a healthier roster next year.
I would rather see Boston draft 10th overall and the Leafs sell hard to show their “core” players, this era is over and it’s time to start thinking about where they want to play next. Small price to pay to get this franchise back on the right track again, from the ground up.
The pick that went to Boston is gone. It can’t come back. So the Leafs making a wild card run is pointless because it just revives this delusion that this team can contend. It can’t. The sooner that realization is made, the sooner Treliving gets fired and the sooner a new President and GM can be hired to plan the road ahead on the next rebuild.
The Leafs could gather 4-5 1st round picks just from it’s “depth” pieces in Roy, Laughton, McMann, OEL, Carlo…another 3-4 1st round picks and 2-3 top prospects for Matthews and Nylander. The Leafs could be looking at adding at least 10-12 1st round picks / top prospects in 2 years, plus two lottery picks if they tank in 2028 and 2029. That’s potentially adding 14 top prospects in 4 years. The way Leafs fans gush about Cowan, just imagine if he was the worst prospect in the pipeline with 14 other guys bigger and better than him in the system.
By 2030, they could have a team full of guys under 25 (at both forward and defense, not top loaded only at forward), loaded with plenty of cap space to fill in the gap with veteran role players to fill the gaps. That type foundation presents the Leafs with a real opportunity to contend and not this fantasy bullshit of Matthews being able to carry this entire team to a Cup by himself when McDavid hasn’t even been able to do that.
I’m too retarded to realize I can’t be verbal on a message board.
We know.
Yes, let’s trade OEL and then spend the next two seasons wishing we had a player like him.
Yes, let’s keep fighting for 9th place as wild card pretenders while we waste the opportunity to recover draft capital.
Draft the next OEL instead of running the same old bones into mediocrity.
Literally, every player is one hit away from retirement. Leafs have $22M to play with next season and only a few holes to plug.
Wrong again retard. Tanev is on his way to Muzzin Manor on Robidas Island. He’s a distinct injury liability. He always has been. Trade him now while you still can.
The Leafs are actually the 7th oldest team in the league. You know who’s older? The Avs. Should probably blow that team up too, eh?
Not sure where you got those numbers but the Leafs were 3rd oldest to start the season. The old players got hurt and lowered the average due to their younger replacements.
Are the Avalanche one of the worst teams in the NHL who have never had playoff success? Oh, they’re actually the best team and have won a Cup? Look at that, your retarded point has been easily disproven again. The Leafs have had no success being an old team. Time to blow it up and start over.
what a pile of loser energy this unhinged goalie guy is, just a miserable online life.
go Jays! should be another fun season.
Loser energy sounds a lot more like how the Jays lost out to the Dodgers in offseason improvements.
Truly a pathetic basement dweller, whines about everything. His parents must have hated him…or they’re douches like him.
Wrong again libtard but keep trying to insult me instead of sticking to the topic at hand; the Jays lost out again.
Valdez seems like a shitty person, that stunt he did with his rookie catcher simply shouldnt happen.
Another woke ass take, typical for you libtard.
I dont think the Jays really went all in on valdez, they simply kicked tires and ultimately he got really overpaid.
If they weren’t in on him for real, they don’t care about winning enough. They needed an elite lefty. They got nothing.
With how high the Jays payroll currently is you’d have to be a moron to think they were going to add another $40m to it for position they are already really good in.
Trade players to save money like Berrios. Keep apologizing for the owners to spend less when it’s obvious they not only need to spend more but they really needed an elite lefty and an elite closer.
I agree, keep OEL. Very serviceable dman at a VERY manageable cap hit for the next two years. Is there a better dman at that cap hit in the entire league?!?
Nah, trade him. That’s exactly why you get great value in return, minimum a 1st round pick.
The D is set up pretty good for the next few years, re-sign Stecher and maybe Tanev gets healthy.
Holy fuck you’re actually that retarded to believe that. The Leafs have given up more goals per game than almost every other team in the NHL but you sit there and pretend the D is good? The D is a fucking disaster. It’s fucking old, for starters. Tanev is one hit away from retirement and yet you’re going to pin your delusional dumbass hopes that he not only gets healthy but never takes another hit ever again? He’s fucking finished. Leafs would be wise and lucky to trade Tanev’s contract to another pretender (as stupid as the Leafs were when they signed Tanev) so when he finally takes his retirement shot, he’s off our books.
Stetcher was a 7th D, waiver wire pick-up. Absolutely trade his midget ass before he regresses back to normal. Sell high. You retards always want to re-sign these guys who have career years and then wonder why the team has bloated contracts they can’t get rid of.
Like you say, this won’t be a full rebuild. Tendies are nice, (could move Stollie IMO), D is fine, they just need to get a better winger for Matty and one other middle six piece and the team is right back in the mix.
Goalies are always injured (or shit like Stolarz has been for most of the season), D is trash and old, better winger? Nah, can’t have those.
3rd oldest team in the NHL. Blow it up. This era is over. Full. Fucking. Tilt. Rebuild.
Another fucking retarded take by the absolute king of the retards.
Another brain dead retard using a different account but still has the same retarded brain he’s always had. Pathetic RetardRanger.
Had the leafs acquired him, it would have costed a 1st and cowan.
Cowan has been sitting because he’s the one guy not for sale. ELC guaranteed NHLer is literally the only thing the leafs won’t give up. Yup, prices are up and down depending on who, but anyone else is tradeable.
Should be doubt shifting McMann, Roy, Laughton, Jarnkrok, Carlo, OEL; get all of their value as sky high as possible. The big fish might go early which will leave desperate playoff pretenders left to scramble to get something for a higher price.
Everybody should be moved and all the draft picks and prospects coming back will help the rebuild.
Then trade Nylander and Matthews at the draft in 2027. There will be nobody left to play with so Rielly and Tavares will take a hike too.
And…Jays lose out again to the Tigers this time. No elite lefty, no elite closer, no upgrades with the bats. Back to hoping for a miracle run so the Dodgers can run it back with a threepeat.
Gavin McKenna facing multiple felony charges, could face 20 years?!? Is this real?!?!
Better fate than being drafted by Vancouver, though.
Yup. Basically assault. Did hockey shit off the ice.
Knowing the Leafs luck, he falls in the draft to where Boston has our pick.
Panarin to the Kings.
For Liam Greentree (former 1st round pick) and a conditional 3rd that becomes a 2nd if LA wins a round. Decent return.
Proposed Trade:
Edmonton receives: Brandon Carlo, Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2027 first-round pick, 2026 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick
I was reading this today.
I’m on the fence trading Carlo.
I would do this trade:
Edmonton receives: Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2026 second-round pick, 2027 second-round pickNope. Carlo and McMann should bring one 1st round pick each.
