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New year, new thread.
Hope everyone had a safe, healthy and quality holiday season.
Nice to see the leafs get a win and matthews showing up.
Honestly though, I’d prefer finishing with a top 5 pick this year over an attempt at trying to get into the playoffs or even a 1st round exit.
Bottom out, trade some assets, get some picks/prospects and reboot this off season (although, Im not sure Tre is the guy for the job)My gawd that Tanev contract is getting worse by the minute, he could be getting a one way first class ticket to robidas island next year.
Onward!
Jays….come on…
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This thread is actually a good idea. Should probably have one every month so it’s easier to track down older posts.
or game day threads.
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or game day threads.
Site isn’t strong enough or busy enough for that.
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or game day threads.
Site isn’t strong enough or busy enough for that.
nah, site doesn’t need to be busy to start a new game day thread even if it’s empty.
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Is tonight the night the Leafs get shutout?
it could be the 2nd time this season.
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Hopefully, by the time I wake up UG will have informed us what is wrong with this team.
This team is flawless and the Stanley Cup is guaranteed.
Absolutely nothing can or will go wrong for the rest of the season.
Book it.
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From the highlights, it looked like a great game last night.
Nice win. Gotta keep it going.
Jets – WTF? 11 losses in a row?
From the President trophy winner from last year to the basement of the league the next.
Missing Hellebuyck for 2 month and he hasn’t look the same since he’s been back after the injury. -
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From the President trophy winner from last year to the basement of the league the next.
Missing Hellebuyck for 2 month and he hasn’t look the same since he’s been back after the injury.They cant seem to hold a lead…..ever.[/quote]
until last night.
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Happy Hockey Day In Canada folks …..
oooppss that’s next week.
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Tony!
Maccelli on a beauitful feed from Willie on the PP…. someone is in danger of having an aneurysm…..
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Tony!
Maccelli on a beauitful feed from Willie on the PP…. someone is in danger of having an aneurysm…..
The Canuck Trolls?
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Cowan drops the gloves ……
but only get 2 for roughing.
four on four hockey
well that did not last long.
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Cowan drops the gloves ……
but only get 2 for roughing.
four on four hockey
well that did not last long.
Leafs are going to the power kill.It was killed !!!1
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JT scores from a nice feed from Nylander
BOO Yeah !!!!
Willie with 3P already in his first game back 👍👍👍
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Woll is killing it this year, but I’d run Hildebeast against the Avs. Monday we find out what this team is really made of.
the whole week next week will be that.
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Holy fuck, what a terrible call.
It was so bad calling it ugly would be complimenting it
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The Bongcouver player fell on his own.
Stecher happen to be there to take the fall for it.Leafs to the power kill.
killed again
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And The Leafs with the shutout win!! 👍👍👍
Blow it up.
PP sucks, Sullivan sucks, Nylander sucks, goaltending sucks, we need Quenneville. trade for a bunch of 1st rounders because they are guaranteed to pan out.
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Blow it up.
PP sucks, Sullivan sucks, Nylander sucks, goaltending sucks, we need Quenneville. trade for a bunch of 1st rounders because they are guaranteed to pan out.
Lol that approach has a true chance of becoming the continuous rebuild doesn’t it?
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Notice the 4 on 3 PK, who is on the ice? Laughton, Carlo, and Stecher.
Tre masterclass.
We are SO back baby!!!
The PK tonight was a beautiful thing overall, especially the one you’re mentioning 😍
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So Toronto is sitting 1P behind Washington for the final wildcard spot and they have a 1 game advantage 👍
Unfortunately, that game in hand is against the head-and-shoulders-above-every-other-team Avs. I still believe. If anything, Monday will be a minor speed bump.
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Unfortunately, that game in hand is against the head-and-shoulders-above-every-other-team Avs. I still believe. If anything, Monday will be a minor speed bump.
Look at it with a little more depth, I just did.
Root for Nashville tomorrow to beat Washington so they still only have a single point on Toronto when they play Colorado while 2 games behind The Caps.
Then on Tuesday they play Montreal while Toronto plays Utah. As much as I hate to say that’s when I’d like to see the habs beat them while Toronto wins as well.
Let Toronto get into that spot while still up a game and then they can start focusing on chasing a team in Montreal’s spot. For now, if them winning helps them grab a wildcard spot ok, I hope they win.
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Packers went full Leafy!
lol they even gave up the 8 point TD
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Woll is killing it this year, but I’d run Hildebeast against the Avs. Monday we find out what this team is really made of.
When healthy, I concur
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Notice the 4 on 3 PK, who is on the ice? Laughton, Carlo, and Stecher.
Tre masterclass.
We are SO back baby!!!
The PK tonight was a beautiful thing overall, especially the one you’re mentioning 😍
uncle Fester is doing his job with the pk 👍
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Blow it up.
PP sucks, Sullivan sucks, Nylander sucks, goaltending sucks, we need Quenneville. trade for a bunch of 1st rounders because they are guaranteed to pan out.
Nah, plan the parade, they beat the worst team in the NHL!
When will you learn that the Leafs are the most consistently inconsistent franchise in hockey? If there is one thing they can’t ever seem to do it’s put forth this effort game in and game out. And they certainly can’t be this good when it actually matters (in the playoffs), against teams that actually contend.
Sullivan has 33% input so even if the PP does get consistently better, he’s not the reason, as it has been explained to you multiple times. Savard was an idiot, addition by subtraction. Nylander and Tavares will suck defensively when it matters most so get ready to swallow that dick when it comes. The goalies are still perpetually injured. When Stolarz comes back, Woll will rotate out eventually. Berube is a mediocre coach and Treliving is a worthless GM. But no, trade every single 1st round pick for 4th liners until 2050 because that’s how a REAL contender is built. The Leafs have built winner after winner the past 58 years with this exact GUARANTEED method.
Retards like you are why the “plan the parade” chirp exists. So quick to ride high without seeing the whole picture. This team sucks fat dicks for most of the year and now they have two good weeks and the parade is back on with the most difficult stretch of the season ahead of them.
Their GAA still sucks balls, they still suck balls on the road and their schedule is the 3rd most difficult in the 2nd half of the season. Even if, by some miracle (20% chance), they make the wild card, this team is going to get destroyed in the playoffs.
They went from winning the division and taking the Cup champs to Game 7 to being one of the worst teams in the East for most of the season and now being a wild card contender, not a Stanley Cup contender…but you’re going to pretend that’s some kind of success? That this ship is completely turned around? You are as gullible as you are stupid.
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UG you’re just a fucking hater. You’re no leafs fan. So none of us give a rats ass about your opinion so stop wasting your time typing because you’re never going to change any of our minds.
Cheers.
Your eyes witnessing reality should have changed your mind long ago so if that hasn’t done it yet, clearly, the stupidity within you is much too strong.
It has nothing to do with hate and just the reality of the situation. The Stanley Cup is extremely difficult to win and this franchise isn’t doing what it takes to win it.
That doesn’t make me any less of a fan. I still want to see this franchise win a Cup, I’m not just so stupid as you to believe they can do it while on their current path.
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Your eyes witnessing reality should have changed your mind long ago so if that hasn’t done it yet, clearly, the stupidity within you is much too strong.
It has nothing to do with hate and just the reality of the situation. The Stanley Cup is extremely difficult to win and this franchise isn’t doing what it takes to win it.
That doesn’t make me any less of a fan. I still want to see this franchise win a Cup, I’m not just so stupid as you to believe they can do it while on their current path.
I don’t care about your opinion.
You’re just an obnoxious online twit who doesn’t work for a hockey team that actually thinks their opinion is valid. It’s cute, wrong, it isn’t valid, but it’s cute.
If you don’t cheer for a team, you are not a fan. The end.
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I don’t care about your opinion.
You’re just an obnoxious online twit who doesn’t work for a hockey team that actually thinks their opinion is valid. It’s cute, wrong, it isn’t valid, but it’s cute.
If you don’t cheer for a team, you are not a fan. The end.
Don’t need you to care about my opinion.
Go punch somebody in the back of the head the next time your garage band goes to karaoke.
I cheer for what is actually best for the team, not for this retarded false hope that’s brought them 58 years of failure.
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Don’t need you to care about my opinion.
Go punch somebody in the back of the head the next time your garage band goes to karaoke.
I cheer for what is actually best for the team, not for this retarded false hope that’s brought them 58 years of failure.
Nice try, not even playing in a band these days, sorry but my international medical coverage kind of has priority, I guess the stuff I have on Apple Music already will have to do *shrugs*
And what you think is best doesn’t mean it is what’s best and that’s the part you cannot seem to grasp. If it was you’d be hired by a team. You’re nothing more than an opinionated hockey fan, just not of the leafs.
Cheers.
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lol they even gave up the 8 point TD
We have a Bears fan in the family (at least he is from, and live in, Chicago). He loves to trash talk, pretty much as bad as every Habs fan I know.
Now I get to watch my 49ers 2nd and 3rd stringers struggle against the Eagles, ugh.
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We have a Bears fan in the family (at least he is from, and live in, Chicago). He loves to trash talk, pretty much as bad as every Habs fan I know.
Now I get to watch my 49ers 2nd and 3rd stringers struggle against the Eagles, ugh.
On my end I know my neighbour pretty damn happy right now, he’s a Bills fan. That field goal in the first quarter turned out to be pretty crucial lol
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Nice try, not even playing in a band these days, sorry but my international medical coverage kind of has priority, I guess the stuff I have on Apple Music already will have to do *shrugs*
And what you think is best doesn’t mean it is what’s best and that’s the part you cannot seem to grasp. If it was you’d be hired by a team. You’re nothing more than an opinionated hockey fan, just not of the leafs.
Cheers.
Punch some more people in the back of the head and I’m sure your Soundcloud will blow up.
What you can’t seem to grasp is that this franchise is run by morons and supported by retards like you. 58 years of evidence exists. Pure mediocrity. That’s not an opinion, it’s objective, observable fact.
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We have a Bears fan in the family (at least he is from, and live in, Chicago). He loves to trash talk, pretty much as bad as every Habs fan I know.
Now I get to watch my 49ers 2nd and 3rd stringers struggle against the Eagles, ugh.
It was going to be tough to beat the Eagles but without Kittle, it’ll be even harder. Still close but if the Eagles settle down, it’s their game to lose.
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On my end I know my neighbour pretty damn happy right now, he’s a Bills fan. That field goal in the first quarter turned out to be pretty crucial lol
Bills are so Jekyll and Hyde. They looked good in the 4th quarter… probably the best “tush push” ever!
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Punch some more people in the back of the head and I’m sure your Soundcloud will blow up.
What you can’t seem to grasp is that this franchise is run by morons and supported by retards like you. 58 years of evidence exists. Pure mediocrity. That’s not an opinion, it’s objective, observable fact.
Sounds like you’re the moron
I have told you. They can blow the team up and I will always cheer them on for the win. I will never hope they lose. No true fan does. Managers might, but I am not a manager.
You want them to lose right now you liar!
Blow them up, get picks, Make the ones they still have higher, and heaven forbid even magically get top 5 and you’d be happy as fuck.
You’re nothing more than a a bitter man. If you cheer for them you’re a fan if you don’t you’re a hater. There’s a lot of players in the NHL that have ZERO interest playing in Toronto because of shit like this and so many “Toronto fans” can’t seem to grasp it.
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Bills are so Jekyll and Hyde. They looked good in the 4th quarter… probably the best “tush push” ever!
I told him when I met him I’d love to judge him but I started watching football when Sanders was with The Lions so yes, they’re still my favourite football team… *sighs lol*
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When it comes to wins I’m hoping the bruins and predators pull it off today and the panthers and of course the leafs tomorrow.
The best part is the most wishful piece is the leafs game since it’s against the Avs but at least it’s happening right when the leafs have found their game 👍
Well Boston won 1-0 👍 now let’s hope Nashville pulls it off against Washington. Currently 1-1.
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I told him when I met him I’d love to judge him but I started watching football when Sanders was with The Lions so yes, they’re still my favourite football team… *sighs lol*
Oh, another Jekyll and Hyde team. The Lions should have been so much better this year.
Wow, 49ers held on. I didn’t see that coming.
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Oh, another Jekyll and Hyde team. The Lions should have been so much better this year.
Wow, 49ers held on. I didn’t see that coming.
Oh I know about The Lions
And yeah I see that about the 49ers too… making me wonder if The Patriots/Chargers game is going to be close too considering how this day seems to be going
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When it comes to wins I’m hoping the bruins and predators pull it off today and the panthers and of course the leafs tomorrow.
The best part is the most wishful piece is the leafs game since it’s against the Avs but at least it’s happening right when the leafs have found their game 👍
Well Boston won 1-0 👍 now let’s hope Nashville pulls it off against Washington. Currently 1-1.
And Nashville gets the win too!! 👍
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Been a great 24 hours. Leafs win with a shutout, Bills win, Eagles out, If the Chargers find a way to win, then the Bills still could avoid the Broncos and play either the Steelers, or Texans. Mondays game against the Avs should be a barometer on where this Leafs team is. Leafs must get points in the next 3 games to look legit. Leafs should shop Stolarz to either get a first rounder or a 2nd line winger. The defense is fine how it is. A good mix on the back end, sans Rielly.
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Been a great 24 hours. Leafs win with a shutout, Bills win, Eagles out, If the Chargers find a way to win, then the Bills still could avoid the Broncos and play either the Steelers, or Texans. Mondays game against the Avs should be a barometer on where this Leafs team is. Leafs must get points in the next 3 games to look legit. Leafs should shop Stolarz to either get a first rounder or a 2nd line winger. The defense is fine how it is. A good mix on the back end, sans Rielly.
Any team can beat another team in a one off game, even the Leafs. The Avs look like an unstoppable force, they’re dynamite at home and the Leafs absolutely suck on the road. All logic suggests the Leafs lose 5-1. The problem with this Leafs team isn’t winning one game they should or shouldn’t win. The problem is the foundational pieces are not built for playoff hockey and they’re not a cohesive unit.
They will never get a 1st round pick for Stolarz. Nobody is trading that type of value away for a goalie who can’t play more than 20-30 games in a season without landing on the LTIR. The defense is built to expect the goalie to stand on his head (which is perhaps why their goalies are always getting hurt). It’s dogshit. The Leafs shots against and GAA are terrible. They look like they’re on the PK when it’s 5v5.
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Been a great 24 hours. Leafs win with a shutout, Bills win, Eagles out, If the Chargers find a way to win, then the Bills still could avoid the Broncos and play either the Steelers, or Texans. Mondays game against the Avs should be a barometer on where this Leafs team is. Leafs must get points in the next 3 games to look legit. Leafs should shop Stolarz to either get a first rounder or a 2nd line winger. The defense is fine how it is. A good mix on the back end, sans Rielly.
What? Any team in the league can happily lose to the Avs. The way the rest of the league is going it’s working out perfectly. My best wish tomorrow is that Florida wins. After that I hope The Leafs beat Utah on Tuesday.
If that happens The Leafs will have a wildcard spot.
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Well, I was hoping for a top 5 pick in the draft this year, but the Leafs are leaf’n that and winning lol.
So lets get into the playoffs, Leafs are looking good.Go leafs Go!
setting up for one of those great disappointments, miss the playoffs by a couple points.
Go Leafs?
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Well, I was hoping for a top 5 pick in the draft this year, but the Leafs are leaf’n that and winning lol.
So lets get into the playoffs, Leafs are looking good.Go leafs Go!
setting up for one of those great disappointments, miss the playoffs by a couple points.
Go Leafs?
The only thing worse that that would be dumb and dumber in here non-stop gloating and talking shit about it – but unless they win the cup that will happen anyway.
Hell even if they won a cup those 2 losers will find fault in it somehow. lol
Go Leafs Go
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setting up for one of those great disappointments, miss the playoffs by a couple points.
Go Leafs?
Whereby they acquire (instead of dump) more veterans at the trade deadline, give up more prospects and draft capital.
The rest of the schedule before the Olympic break is a mine field schedule.
Leafs play Colorado, Utah (back to back), Vegas (3 games in 4 nights) then Winnipeg, all on the road. Leafs suck on the road.
Then 5 games at home, Minnesota, Detroit, Vegas, Colorado then Buffalo.
Followed by 4 more road games, Seattle, Vanpoover, Calgary and Edmonton (back to back and 3 games in 4 nights). More Leafs suckage on the road.
If they lose to Colorado x2, Vegas x2, Minnesota, Detroit (OTL) and Edmonton but beat Utah, Winnipeg, Buffalo, Seattle, Vanpoover and Calgary, they’re .500, 6-6-1.
That’s probably where they land, right where they are now.
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When it comes to wins I’m hoping the bruins and predators pull it off today and the panthers and of course the leafs tomorrow.
The best part is the most wishful piece is the leafs game since it’s against the Avs but at least it’s happening right when the leafs have found their game 👍
Well the Bruins and Predators pulled it off last night and now the Panthers just won so my hoping has gone pretty good so far
Go Leafs Go!!! 👍👍👍
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Going to watch Leafs vs Wings January 21st.
Can’t believe that’s already only 9 days from now. Enjoy that game! 👍
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Going to watch Leafs vs Wings January 21st.
Can’t believe that’s already only 9 days from now. Enjoy that game! 👍
Thanks man, going to be a lot of fun and beers.
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Thanks man, going to be a lot of fun and beers.
Especially for two original six teams in the same division?
That beer will taste oh so nice 👍👍
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McCabe blows a tire and the Avs tie this game up.
It’s ok, expecting to shut the Avs out is a bit crazy
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Leafs to the power kill thanks to Rielly
it failed
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Holy shit, this Avs team is stacked. I haven’t seen them play much this year, but they looked incredible in the first… and the Leafs are hanging with them. Every single player has stepped up tonight and played hard all night. I’m watching on delay with 5 left in the second, so they may have already fallen apart, but so far I’m LOVING what I’m seeing.
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This Cup Final preview is wild.
Too bad they won’t roll with the Nordiques jersey then 😭
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Hey, UG, you fucking pussy, how are you gonna discredit this win? Lemme guess, their backup goalie? Well, he played great. We all knew what this team is capable of, you’re just too fucking retarded to see it.
In Woll we trust.
We are SO back baby!!!
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Hey, UG, you fucking pussy, how are you gonna discredit this win? Lemme guess, their backup goalie? Well, he played great. We all knew what this team is capable of, you’re just too fucking retarded to see it.
In Woll we trust.
We are SO back baby!!!
LOL On the road, Willie with the GWG, more high scoring chances…..
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Hey, UG, you fucking pussy, how are you gonna discredit this win? Lemme guess, their backup goalie? Well, he played great. We all knew what this team is capable of, you’re just too fucking retarded to see it.
In Woll we trust.
We are SO back baby!!!
LOL On the road, Willie with the GWG, more high scoring chances…..
This truly is his worst nightmare.
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This truly is his worst nightmare.
Being in a wild card spot half way through the season is a nightmare scenario? Oh, the horror.
No, the nightmare scenario will be when this retard GM thinks he can trade the futures for some deadline rentals and make a run into a 1st round exit or finishes 9th.
The Leafs haven’t won a Cup in 58 years but they sure as fuck haven’t ever won it in January. Except in your mind, where I live rent free, in there, the parade is being planned.
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Lemme guess, their backup goalie? Well, he played great!
3rd string goalie, retard. And he wasn’t that great, he got beat along the ice more than once, he knew he fucked up on that OT goal immediately because his stick was in an AHL position as he slid across.
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Lemme guess, their backup goalie? Well, he played great!
3rd string goalie, retard. And he wasn’t that great, he got beat along the ice more than once, he knew he fucked up on that OT goal immediately because his stick was in an AHL position as he slid across.
Glad to see you watched the Sports Centre highlights, because you clearly didn’t watch the game. I assume you’re working the late or night shift at McDonalds based off your post time.
The Leafs just hung with a team that is head and shoulders above every team in the league, and came out on top. The Avs are a team that REGULARLY absolutely shits on above average team. And the Leafs didn’t look out of place, AT ALL!
The way this team is playing right now is the way Cup winning teams play. Are they going to? Probably not. 31 teams are going to fail at that this year. You have to have a lot of things go your way to win a cup, (like your #1 goalie not taking a head shot). Are there still some changes that can be made to improve the team? Of course. But we have a lot of the needed pieces.
You love to mention what other teams are missing, but never mention that we’re missing our #1 D warrior.
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You love to mention what other teams are missing, but never mention that we’re missing our #1 D warrior.
That being said, it looked like we had 5 Tanevs out there last night. McCabe, Benny, Stecher, OEL, and Carlo were all beasts.
Shout out to 89 for that block as well.
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You love to mention what other teams are missing, but never mention that we’re missing our #1 D warrior.
That being said, it looked like we had 5 Tanevs out there last night. McCabe, Benny, Stecher, OEL, and Carlo were all beasts.
Shout out to 89 for that block as well.
What UG forgot to mention was that the Leafs figured it out during the first period and started playing a great cycle game. As good as he is could not have done this with Marner.
It is cute he thinks he is in our head. I guess if being an annoying idiot because he never shuts up and is always negative means in our heads then YUP. I sleep just fine at night though without thinking about his ridiculous posts. I do get some enjoyment out of his stupidity, but am starting to feel like we may be picking on a retard?
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The rage posting by the biggest Leafs troll here today was well worth the price of admission LMFAO.
Fantastic entertainment while that poster grasps at straws with his absolute shit covered hands trying to find the negative in the Leafs winning in OT, against what almost everyone considers the best team in the league right now.
The cherry on top – Willy scoring the OT winner which has put Tweedle Dumb into a tearful spiral resulting in him and his 9 alts have gone silent.
Credit where credit is due at least the loser with all the alts is honest about not being a Leaf fan anymore.
Nylander with 46 points in 35 games.
Former Leaf Winger with 46 points in (checks the stats) 44 games.I think the Leafs are going to be ok withe Willy over Marner, keeping both was clearly never an option / going to happen.
Happy Tuesday!
Go Leafs Go!
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The rage posting by the biggest Leafs troll here today was well worth the price of admission LMFAO.
Fantastic entertainment while that poster grasps at straws with his absolute shit covered hands trying to find the negative in the Leafs winning in OT, against what almost everyone considers the best team in the league right now.
The cherry on top – Willy scoring the OT winner which has put Tweedle Dumb into a tearful spiral resulting in him and his 9 alts have gone silent.
Credit where credit is due at least the loser with all the alts is honest about not being a Leaf fan anymore.
Nylander with 46 points in 35 games.
Former Leaf Winger with 46 points in (checks the stats) 44 games.I think the Leafs are going to be ok withe Willy over Marner, keeping both was clearly never an option / going to happen.
Happy Tuesday!
Go Leafs Go!
The Leafs seem to have finally bought into Berube’s gritty along the boards hockey and it shows. Their size is proving the be a dominance when it comes to that and it eventually just buys their star offensive guys space if they’re patient enough while they do it. This is a good thing too since it’s precisely what they always failed to do in the post season so I’m hoping this sticks around. They even said in the broadcast last night it was the advantage the Leafs had over the Avs since it’s not the Avs style so they played a Leafs type of game hence the Leafs win but still it was f’n super close because that’s how good the Avs are.
Go Leafs Go!! 👍
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Matthews!!!!! 👍👍👍
That was the best thing I have seen from the Leafs in a long time. Matthews first few years, goals like that were regular for him. I actually thought he had the best shot I had ever seen. It has been a long while since he looked like that guy. That shot was a laser.
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That was the best thing I have seen from the Leafs in a long time. Matthews first few years, goals like that were regular for him. I actually thought he had the best shot I had ever seen. It has been a long while since he looked like that guy. That shot was a laser.
And him smiling at the crowd while an Avs fan was giving him the double fingers after he scored was just fucking awesome 🤩
Made me like the C on his jersey more, that moment may have won me over 👍👍👍
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GO Leafs GO !!!
b2b going to a hard game for the the boys in blue.
Back to back in a different time zone really amps up the challenge. Wishing them luck tonight 👍
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wow.
damn
Leafs down by 2.
ah make that down by 3. 😒
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Meh, no team has ever gotten points in 40 games straight so this was bound to happen. Tough travel schedule. 130am arrival. Thursday night is the game I really care about. Hope to see the same effort as last night.
I’ll be happy if they just put the puck in the net 1 or 2 times in the third 👍
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Outshot almost 2 to 1, outplayed and outscored 6-1 and counting…
Hey to the three blind retards, where is the team that beat Colorado in OT with an AHL goalie? Is the parade still happening? This is the same team isn’t it? Oh wait, Woll isn’t there to stand on his head? The best players can’t be consistent and provide the same effort? Damn. I thought they were SO BACK. What a horrific scenario!
The effort displayed last night vs the dogshit they displayed tonight is why you morons just can’t see why this team isn’t really a contender. By some miracle, they might be a shitty wild card team but this team won the division last year and took the Cup champs to Game 7. This team does not have the consistency or the drive to be an actual contender.
Shots For: 22nd
Shots Against: 32nd
PP: 25th
GAA: 22ndShooting % is unsustainably high which is why they’re 5th in goals for and it’s why the offense will disappear when the games matter most. This is not a Berube style team no matter what kind of bullshit narrative you want to believe. Except the face-offs. That tracks accordingly. But other than for the PK, they don’t put it to good enough use.
They have some great moments, like any team does, but doing it every game, against every opponent, they don’t have it and that’s why this team doesn’t have what it takes to contend for a Cup. Wild card pretenders is what this team is.
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Looks like we are getting soft Dougie.
😂😂😂
The Leafs media are desperate for attention.
Unless NJ took Rielly and held onto $3 mill of Hamilton’s cap hit why the fuck would the Leafs even bother? lol
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Imagine being such a loser that you call people retarrds for not using a quote button properly and then don’t use it properly yourself?
It’s almost as pathetic as looking for any and every reason to shit on a Leafs win against the best team in the league claiming it was because the opponent started their 3rd string goalie and a cluster fuck of other excuses and then just a day later not applying any of that same rationale when ranting about the Leafs losing on the 2nd half of a back to back.
To do so you would have to be an absolute next level moron troll.
Lmfao
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Late game, back to back nights after getting points in 10 straight. nothing to analyze, forget it and on to the next one
This logic won’t apply to any of the retards if Vegas loses to the Leafs though.
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The Leafs media are desperate for attention.
Unless NJ took Rielly and held onto $3 mill of Hamilton’s cap hit why the fuck would the Leafs even bother? lol
Hamilton was once a very good offensive D, Leafs would have benefited greatly from him had they not made the retarded Kessel trade.
But at 9 million, as you said, they’d have to take Rielly and retain to make it possible. It shouldn’t happen.
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retarrds
Retard.
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I am a Retard.
And you even use a capital R describing yourself. Impressive.
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Hamilton was once a very good offensive D, Leafs would have benefited greatly from him had they not made the retarded Kessel trade.
But at 9 million, as you said, they’d have to take Rielly and retain to make it possible. It shouldn’t happen.
I actually agree with you on this one lol
Fuck Hamilton if they don’t retain and take Rielly and nothing more, why the fuck would the Leafs want the same d man otherwise?
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Looks like we are getting soft Dougie.
😂😂😂
The Leafs media are desperate for attention.
Unless NJ took Rielly and held onto $3 mill of Hamilton’s cap hit why the fuck would the Leafs even bother? lol
Agree 100%
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Imagine being such a loser that you call people retarrds for not using a quote button properly and then don’t use it properly yourself?
It’s almost as pathetic as looking for any and every reason to shit on a Leafs win against the best team in the league claiming it was because the opponent started their 3rd string goalie and a cluster fuck of other excuses and then just a day later not applying any of that same rationale when ranting about the Leafs losing on the 2nd half of a back to back.
To do so you would have to be an absolute next level moron troll.
Lmfao
Never mind the quote button. How about that comma button? Although, your 70 word run on sentence is amusing.
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keep ranging against the machine UG, Rage on
Rage On was the best album Dan Seals ever did.
Big Wheels in the Moonlight is still a fantastic song.
Rage On indeed.
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Agree 100%
To be fair since Rielly is signed til the end of 2029-30 and Hamilton is only til 2027-28 I’d be cool with The Devils only holding onto $1.5 mill lol
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Imagine being such a loser that you call people retarrds for not using a quote button properly and then don’t use it properly yourself?
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>It’s almost as pathetic as looking for any and every reason to shit on a Leafs win against the best team in the league claiming it was because the opponent started their 3rd string goalie and a cluster fuck of other excuses and then just a day later not applying any of that same rationale when ranting about the Leafs losing on the 2nd half of a back to back.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>To do so you would have to be an absolute next level moron troll.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Lmfao
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Never mind the quote button. How about that comma button? Although, your 70 word run on sentence is amusing.
STFU AA you waste of skin.
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I am a Retard.
And you even use a capital R describing yourself. Impressive.
He’s a special little guy Dozz.
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He’s a special little guy Dozz.
lol
Using the word little must be describing his ability to think. Because When I picture his body I see a rather large round one living in his dark, parent’s basement eating a lot of cheesy puffs and chicken wings. For instance, I don’t know if I’d want to use his keyboard and mouse, it would likely stain my hand and fingertips permanently 😐
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Well my Rangers shit the bed vs the Sens which is pathetic, just like the Rangers have been most of the season, nearly 10 points out of a playoff spot time to trade expiring contracts or guys who want to be moved / should be moved and recoup some draft picks etc.
That being said big game for you guys tonight when your Leafs take on the Vegas Golden Showers and that wimp boy who took his ball and walked away when they wouldn’t pay him like a top line centre. In my outsider opinion it was for the better for your franchise although I’m sure they wanted him to stay but he clearly decided he was gone some time ago. It’s clear as day he’s not a top line center, he’s a highly skilled winger but way too cute and super soft – especially come playoff time. I think Vegas is going to regret the $ and term they paid him, he hasn’t been a real game changer for them in the regular season and isn’t that supposed to be when he shines?
God knows the Leafs have had to play some of the hardest 1st and 2nd round teams but it’s been shown they have enough of the high skill but soft / not enough grit type of players already as has been seen year over year come playoffs. Plus Marner whining about fans, media and not feeling safe just makes him seem like a little bitch.
I was impressed with their gave vs the Avs, you would have to be a complete retard not to have been.
I hope the Leafs kick the shit out of the Knights tonight just for the narrative in the media and the fireworks in here. lol
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Well my Rangers shit the bed vs the Sens which is pathetic, just like the Rangers have been most of the season, nearly 10 points out of a playoff spot time to trade expiring contracts or guys who want to be moved / should be moved and recoup some draft picks etc.
That being said big game for you guys tonight when your Leafs take on the Vegas Golden Showers and that wimp boy who took his ball and walked away when they wouldn’t pay him like a top line centre. In my outsider opinion it was for the better for your franchise although I’m sure they wanted him to stay but he clearly decided he was gone some time ago. It’s clear as day he’s not a top line center, he’s a highly skilled winger but way too cute and super soft – especially come playoff time. I think Vegas is going to regret the $ and term they paid him, he hasn’t been a real game changer for them in the regular season and isn’t that supposed to be when he shines?
God knows the Leafs have had to play some of the hardest 1st and 2nd round teams but it’s been shown they have enough of the high skill but soft / not enough grit type of players already as has been seen year over year come playoffs. Plus Marner whining about fans, media and not feeling safe just makes him seem like a little bitch.
I was impressed with their gave vs the Avs, you would have to be a complete retard not to have been.
I hope the Leafs kick the shit out of the Knights tonight just for the narrative in the media and the fireworks in here. lol
Keep pretending to be an “outsider”. Make sure you make one account per different team you’re pretending to be a fan of.
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Vegas on a back-to-back after going to OT last night and putting an AHLer in net tonight.
Leafs should win this easy unless they fuck it up. Leafs never fuck it up though.
UG when he talks about the Leafs, his favority team.
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I heard marner is being used as a center in vegas?
Gonna be really tough for him in the playoffs if he stays in that position.You should get your hearing checked because Marner has only taken 127 FOs. 54% in the Dzone though.
He should have always been a center. The Leafs and their retarded player development strategy screwed that up. But he could play center. He’s strong enough defensively to do it. The hard part is the FOs that usually takes years to become among the best at. He’s not that big but he could play center if he had to, certainly better than the 20 times they tried with Nylander to abysmal failure.
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How Leafs fans look at the end of every playoffs after predicting a successful season, every single season, 58 years in a row.
Fixed.
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Will do thanks for the tip there King Retard!
Sure thing RetardRanger with a Big23IQ.
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I heard marner is being used as a center in vegas?
Gonna be really tough for him in the playoffs if he stays in that position.You should get your hearing checked because Marner has only taken 127 FOs. 54% in the Dzone though.
He should have always been a center. The Leafs and their retarded player development strategy screwed that up. But he could play center. He’s strong enough defensively to do it. The hard part is the FOs that usually takes years to become among the best at. He’s not that big but he could play center if he had to, certainly better than the 20 times they tried with Nylander to abysmal failure.
Honestly, just stfu once in a while.
“Marner second-line centre
There is a twist that few saw coming: He’s the second-line centre in Vegas, behind Jack Eichel. Second line is one thing, but centre?ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW
“It’s been good,” said Marner. “I think a bit of my game is suited to being a centreman: getting low, supporting, helping out our defence. But it’s a new adjustment in taking faceoffs, trying to get good at that, the patience for that, trying to win more draws.” -
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Honestly, just stfu once in a while.
“Marner second-line centre
There is a twist that few saw coming: He’s the second-line centre in Vegas, behind Jack Eichel. Second line is one thing, but centre?ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW
“It’s been good,” said Marner. “I think a bit of my game is suited to being a centreman: getting low, supporting, helping out our defence. But it’s a new adjustment in taking faceoffs, trying to get good at that, the patience for that, trying to win more draws.”Even daily faceoff has him as the 2nd line C when showing the lines and they update every day.
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Honestly, just stfu once in a while.
“Marner second-line centre
There is a twist that few saw coming: He’s the second-line centre in Vegas, behind Jack Eichel. Second line is one thing, but centre?ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW
“It’s been good,” said Marner. “I think a bit of my game is suited to being a centreman: getting low, supporting, helping out our defence. But it’s a new adjustment in taking faceoffs, trying to get good at that, the patience for that, trying to win more draws.”Literally out of necessity because of injuries to almost all their centers. Like I said, he’s at 120ish FOs which means he hasn’t played center for most of the year.
But he’s more than capable of the task. Leafs were too stupid to do it from day one.
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I’m really hoping Matias Maccelli drops the gloves and beats the brakes off Mitch Marner tonight.
Maccelli is garbage, should be a healthy scratch most nights.
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I heard marner is being used as a center in vegas?
Gonna be really tough for him in the playoffs if he stays in that position.Everything is tough for Marner in the playoffs after game 3 or 4.
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I heard marner is being used as a center in vegas?
Gonna be really tough for him in the playoffs if he stays in that position.Everything is tough for Marner in the playoffs after game 3 or 4.
100% true.
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McCabe get 2 or less in the sin bin
Leafs to the power kill.it failed.
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Vegas on a back-to-back after going to OT last night and putting an AHLer in net tonight.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Leafs should win this easy unless they fuck it up. Leafs never fuck it up though.
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I bet when you play roulette you bet on red and black at the same time.
Room temperature IQ on you for sure you fucking choad.
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Tucker to the Dodgers. Fuck LA, let’s blast them in the World Series this year.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Bring back Bo.
Fuck the Dodgers!!
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Hill stone McMann … wow .. what a save that was but damn
Wild desperation save and a beauty. Wow indeed!
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The Leafs started on time!
Now can the keep it up for 60.
UG does make a valid point, (a broken clock is right twice a day), Vegas is playing back to back with travel. Who makes this BS schedule. NHL should do better.
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Great – Willy and now OEL to the room. 🙄
Hoping both are back for the 2nd. 🤞
Yeah I’m hoping that those are nothing more than a sit out the rest of the first situations as well 🤞
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The Leafs started on time!
Now can the keep it up for 60.
UG does make a valid point, (a broken clock is right twice a day), Vegas is playing back to back with travel. Who makes this BS schedule. NHL should do better.
Lets not forget the AHL goalie playing as well.
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Now can the keep it up for 60.
UG does make a valid point, (a broken clock is right twice a day), Vegas is playing back to back with travel. Who makes this BS schedule. NHL should do better.
Oh please, I just looked it up and the flight time from LA to Vegas is 1 hour to 1 hour and 15 minutes. So with a private jet? An hour or even less. They would have been home at a normal time.
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Now can the keep it up for 60.
UG does make a valid point, (a broken clock is right twice a day), Vegas is playing back to back with travel. Who makes this BS schedule. NHL should do better.
Oh please, I just looked it up and the flight time from LA to Vegas is 1 hour to 1 hour and 15 minutes. So with a private jet? An hour or even less. They would have been home at a normal time.
Soooooo, same flight time from Colorado to Utah, then. What’s the Leafs excuse?
Back to backs in different cities shouldn’t be a thing in a multi billion dollar league.
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Soooooo, same flight time from Colorado to Utah, then. What’s the Leafs excuse?
Back to backs in different cities shouldn’t be a thing in a multi billion dollar league.
The leafs don’t have an excuse, they played a terrible game. Even Berube essentially said that. However I wasn’t upset since they’ve been playing so good as of late, that’s all for me.
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The Leafs started on time!
Now can the keep it up for 60.
UG does make a valid point, (a broken clock is right twice a day), Vegas is playing back to back with travel. Who makes this BS schedule. NHL should do better.
I think they can.
More boos for Marner
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McCabe get another penalty sending the Leafs to a power kill.
this one was killed 👍
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damn, Nylander is out of the game ….. 🙁
That does suck… here’s hoping it’s nothing longer
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>damn , bad rebound and Vegas is within 1
Reilly played that pretty poorly,
Tie up the forwards stick instead of going for the cross check when the puck is right there is pretty basic stuff.
Reilly is so Jeckyl and Hyde. Sigh.
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Oh!! Leafs to the PP
JT accidentally tiped Maccelli’s open net goal !!!
BOO Yeah !!!
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that look like it went off a Leafs skate and in.
Bingo
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That’s gotta be goalie interference. You can’t push the goalie with the puck under him until it comes free for fuck sakes.
Terrible non call.
Nah, he was WAY out of his crease, and it was “under” his pad for a millisecond.
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>That’s gotta be goalie interference. You can’t push the goalie with the puck under him until it comes free for fuck sakes.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Terrible non call.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Nah, he was WAY out of his crease, and it was “under” his pad for a millisecond.
Disagree.
Your can’t push the goalie with your stick regardless of where he is preventing him from being able to atept to make a save. We’ve seen goalie interference called for less outside the crease.
#goalieunion
🤣😎
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Just bad luck for Knies to break a stick.
TSN jinxed it
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Just bad luck for Knies to break a stick.
Oh no the village idiot is certain it was.a Leaf collapse. 🙄
Let’s not overlook the non call on Hill for blatantly interfering with Laughton with under 2 min left.
The NHL just loves Vegas though.
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Oh no the village idiot is certain it was.a Leaf collapse. 🙄
Let’s not overlook the non call on Hill for blatantly interfering with Laughton with under 2 min left.
The NHL just loves Vegas though.
Sorry retard, the Leafs had every advantage and they still found a way to lose.
They had the early lead, facing a goalie that hasn’t played since October, Vegas played a tough division OT game last night and the Leafs managed to score 5 goals and blew the lead with less than 5 seconds left. They simply fucked themselves because this team is not that good.
Marner played fantastic, almost had 3 assists and his team won.
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Dafuq are you doing Rielly?!?!?
How are you even surprised by anything retarded that Rielly does by now? It’s not new.
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And so begins UG-time lol
If the Leafs had won, which they had every single opportunity to do, every single retard homer on this site would have been screaming how the Leafs beat Marner as if they won the Stanley Cup, like they did when they won vs the Avalanche.
This is why Marner is better off in Vegas and why the Leafs are worse off with Marner. It’s just one game, it’s not the whole season but it’s just another example in the mountain of evidence that this team just is not that good and does not have the foundational pieces to be a contender or a Cup winner.
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Disappointing, but win in the Peg and go 2-1-1 on this road trip.
Matthews has looked incredible lately, hopefully Willy is back soon.
Or get Hellefuycked.
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Oh no the village idiot is certain it was.a Leaf collapse. 🙄
Let’s not overlook the non call on Hill for blatantly interfering with Laughton with under 2 min left.
The NHL just loves Vegas though.
Sorry retard, the Leafs had every advantage and they still found a way to lose.
They had the early lead, facing a goalie that hasn’t played since October, Vegas played a tough division OT game last night and the Leafs managed to score 5 goals and blew the lead with less than 5 seconds left. They simply fucked themselves because this team is not that good.
Marner played fantastic, almost had 3 assists and his team won.
your also overlooking that Nylander left the game after the 1st period.
Not an excuse but the Leafs were down a man who plays at 20 minutes a night.
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your also overlooking that Nylander left the game after the 1st period.
Not an excuse but the Leafs were down a man who plays at 20 minutes a night.
But Range On like you do.Not an excuse. They had multiple leads. Nylander helps blow leads, not keep them. Vegas was playing a back to back and had a goalie in net that had not played since October. Vegas has multiple injuries too. The Leafs PK got burned twice which is supposed to be a strength this year.
I’m not raging, I just know, had Vegas lost, every retard Homer here would be screaming how Marner sucks and the Leafs are Cup contenders but the Leafs took full advantage of every opportunity to lose this game that they should have won.
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Not an excuse. They had multiple leads. Nylander helps blow leads, not keep them. Vegas was playing a back to back and had a goalie in net that had not played since October. Vegas has multiple injuries too. The Leafs PK got burned twice which is supposed to be a strength this year.[/quote]
agree to disagree on thisI’m not raging, I just know, had Vegas lost, every retard Homer here would be screaming how Marner sucks and the Leafs are Cup contenders but the Leafs took full advantage of every opportunity to lose this game that they should have won.[/quote]
keep telling yourself that.
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Bichette to the Mets, 3yr $42M per. Insane for a guy who is below average defensively. But SUCKS to see him go.
I think the team we have now is the team we’ll have on opening night. What little remains is going to be priced WAY too high.
Agreed it was an overpay by the Mets, and I don’t subscribe to the theory that the Jays are doomed and can’t beat the Dodgers without Bo. They made it to the WS without him and someone else can step up at any time.
Dodgers are stacked for sure but nobody expected the Blue Jays to have the run they did this year, maybe next year it’ll be a team in the NL who goes on a tear and beats the big bad Dodgers. We can hope!
The pressure on the Dodgers to win again is immense now, going out and signing the most expensive / highly coveted guys tends to do that. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out, especially if they falter at any point in the season.
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Literally out of necessity because of injuries to almost all their centers. Like I said, he’s at 120ish FOs which means he hasn’t played center for most of the year.
But he’s more than capable of the task. Leafs were too stupid to do it from day one.[/quote]
No one said he did play for most of the season you fucking idiot.
Just said they have him playing center.Next time, just STFU, you dont have to soil everything with your nonsense.
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Bichette to the Mets, 3yr $42M per. Insane for a guy who is below average defensively. But SUCKS to see him go.
I think the team we have now is the team we’ll have on opening night. What little remains is going to be priced WAY too high.
Jays still need another bat.
No way Bo is worth that kind of cash…neither is tucker.Time to pivot
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No one said he did play for most of the season you fucking idiot.
Just said they have him playing center.Next time, just STFU, you dont have to soil everything with your nonsense.
You posted like a retard without context, as usual.
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agree to disagree on this
If you disagree with the facts you’re welcome to be wrong. Nylander sucks at defending. The Leafs did not blow four two goal leads because he left the game. They scores 5 goals and allowed 6. That’s not Nylander’s department.
If they lose 2-1, then you would have an argument that Nylander leaving the game hurt the team but he already helped create two goals. He did his job. The Leafs did fuck all to keep the lead including giving up two PP goals (Marner magic) despite having a great PK, another area Nylander does not contribute to.
keep telling yourself that.
that save on McMann in the first period was a massive and would put the Leafs up 4-1 … TSN turning point.Keep lying to yourself. The Leafs blew four different two goal leads. That one amazing safe did not cost them the game. Unless your argument is that save is the reason the Leafs allowed a goal with 7 seconds left or allowed two PP goals, which would be retarded but par for the course.
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Jays still need another bat.
No way Bo is worth that kind of cash…neither is tucker.Time to pivot
Jays lose again to the Dodgers in 5 if they don’t make serious upgrades. All the best options already went to the team that already won last time.
No lefty starter, no closer and no replacement for Bo. Jays are in tough now.
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Well here’s how things stand to me:
4 game road trip
Points:
7-8 = Great
4-6 = Good
2-3 = Bad
0-1 = TerribleSo The Leafs currently are sitting at Bad.
They need at least the OT again to hit good (half the points). However tbh the way this trip has crashed I personally would like to see them beat Winnipeg. I mean it was a great start, then a game I was willing to shrug off, then a full blown crash. Because of last night the game against Colorado on this trip is just a “meh” now.
Come on Leafs, beat The Jets tomorrow, and walk away with 5P 👍
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agree to disagree on this
If you disagree with the facts you’re welcome to be wrong. Nylander sucks at defending. The Leafs did not blow four two goal leads because he left the game. They scores 5 goals and allowed 6. That’s not Nylander’s department.
If they lose 2-1, then you would have an argument that Nylander leaving the game hurt the team but he already helped create two goals. He did his job. The Leafs did fuck all to keep the lead including giving up two PP goals (Marner magic) despite having a great PK, another area Nylander does not contribute to.
keep telling yourself that.
that save on McMann in the first period was a massive and would put the Leafs up 4-1 … TSN turning point.Keep lying to yourself. The Leafs blew four different two goal leads. That one amazing safe did not cost them the game. Unless your argument is that save is the reason the Leafs allowed a goal with 7 seconds left or allowed two PP goals, which would be retarded but par for the course.
Knies had a broken stick, it was basically a 6 on 4 but keep ignoring the circonstance to the tying goal.
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Knies had a broken stick, it was basically a 6 on 4 but keep ignoring the circonstance to the tying goal.
What was the excuse on the other 5 goals they allowed?
Keep ignoring that this team can’t hold a lead when it matters. They blew four different two goal leads. Are you actually demented?
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Looks like Hildeby gets the net tonight. Seems as though Woll can’t be trusted (injury risk) to play even though it’s not a back-to-back. I suppose that’s to best protect him from the LTIR, which is wise, however, long term, if Woll can’t play the majority of games, the Leafs will always have a problem with their starting goalie situation. Stolarz, for the exact same reasons, is in the same boat.
It’s alright though, I was once told Hildeby is as good as Hellebuyck so it’ll be just fine.
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Looks like Hildeby gets the net tonight. Seems as though Woll can’t be trusted (injury risk) to play even though it’s not a back-to-back. I suppose that’s to best protect him from the LTIR, which is wise, however, long term, if Woll can’t play the majority of games, the Leafs will always have a problem with their starting goalie situation. Stolarz, for the exact same reasons, is in the same boat.
It’s alright though, I was once told Hildeby is as good as Hellebuyck so it’ll be just fine.
You need to eat a Snickers
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Looks like Hildeby gets the net tonight. Seems as though Woll can’t be trusted (injury risk) to play even though it’s not a back-to-back. I suppose that’s to best protect him from the LTIR, which is wise, however, long term, if Woll can’t play the majority of games, the Leafs will always have a problem with their starting goalie situation. Stolarz, for the exact same reasons, is in the same boat.
It’s alright though, I was once told Hildeby is as good as Hellebuyck so it’ll be just fine.
You need to eat a Snickers
Stop harassing my UGY! Just because he gets triggered each and every day, does not mean he’s mad. Trust me, daily rants against leafs, women, heterosexuals, and retards, is not indicative of someone who is angry. It’s frustration. My lover and I, only have one another to kiss and cuddle, it’s lonely guys. Be nice.
Leave him and Mitch alone!!
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You need to eat a Snickers
See, that’s the thing you’ve never understood…I’m not upset. I already know this team is flawed. I can’t be disappointed.
You, on the other, you’re fucked. You have to “learn” the hard way. Every time. Every year.
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Knies had a broken stick, it was basically a 6 on 4 but keep ignoring the circonstance to the tying goal.
What was the excuse on the other 5 goals they allowed?
Keep ignoring that this team can’t hold a lead when it matters. They blew four different two goal leads. Are you actually demented?
I’m a Leafs aren’t I?
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You need to eat a Snickers
See, that’s the thing you’ve never understood…I’m not upset. I already know this team is flawed. I can’t be disappointed.
You, on the other, you’re fucked. You have to “learn” the hard way. Every time. Every year.
So why come on here and try to make everyone else miserable? Are you just an asshole?
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GO LEAFS GO !!!!!!!!!!.
I, also, would like the Leafs to go.
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GO LEAFS GO !!!!!!!!!!.
I, also, would like the Leafs to go.
Don’t forget to shake it not more then twice ……
otherwise ……
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Matthews scores a goal !!
BOO Yeah ..
down by 1
What a Snipe.
Matty is SO back.
Do it again on the PP.
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Leafs to the PP !!
They are getting another chance to test their PP
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man, Leafs to the power kill … .
killed and now off to OT !!!
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That was in, no?
post>crossbar>out>save on the rebound!!!!!!
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They’ve hit at least 4 points on the road trip now, so it’s a good and not bad one 👍
Yup, 4 games in 6 nights and 5 of 8 points, against 3 playoff teams and 2 division leaders. That’s a good road trip.
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OMG! Is it me, or is Hildeby better than Hellebuyck?
I just checked, and maybe! Hildeby has a .910 SV% with a 2.96 GAA. Hellebuyck has a .901 SV% with a 2.76 GAA.
Huh, who knew?
Yes, of course, give Hildeby the Vezina after *checks notes* 18 games. Totally justified.
A lot of retards here owe Domi an apology. So many here had him dumped or traded months ago. He’s definitely not good in his own end, it’s no surprise he’s -11 but he’s been playing well with Matthews for awhile now. He’s been scoring, making plays, fighting and just being a useful player.
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So why come on here and try to make everyone else miserable? Are you just an asshole?
If telling you the truth with my opinions makes you miserable, that’s a you problem.
We both want this franchise to build a Stanley Cup winner. The difference is, I’m a lot more accurate and realistic in regards to what is required for them to accomplish that goal. You just think they’re great no matter what.
Very good road trip.
Hildebeast is good and not terrible as the almighty predicted.
Leafs can earn points on the road even under tough conditions, again the almighty one was wrong.At no point was Hildeby predicted to be terrible. Check your facts.
The Leafs embarrassed themselves twice on the road, once getting their asses blown out by Utah, which should have been 2 relatively easy points. Then, blowing four different two goal leads to Vegas. They impressed vs. Colorado with some good fortune with playing vs. an AHL goalie but they took full advantage, as they should. And they beat one of the worst teams in the NHL in Winnipeg after losing most of the game.
Despite “earning points”, they’re still outside of a playoff spot. They’re still treading water towards 9th place or a 1st round exit.
To truly turn this team around, they need to continue to produce consistent 7 wins out of 10 game stretches to punch their ticket ahead of all the teams around them.
Remember, this team is supposed to be a contender, not a wild card team.
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Andersson to the VGK in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, 1st in 2027 (top 10 protected), 2nd in 2028 that becomes a 1st if VGK win the Cup this season. Abram Wiebe also moved to Calgary.
All that for Swedish right handed Rielly. Wow.
Leafs could get so much if they started selling off everybody over 25.
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Andersson to the VGK in exchange for Zach Whitecloud, 1st in 2027 (top 10 protected), 2nd in 2028 that becomes a 1st if VGK win the Cup this season. Abram Wiebe also moved to Calgary.
All that for Swedish right handed Rielly. Wow.
Leafs could get so much if they started selling off everybody over 25.
Not that it means much but Calgary is also holding onto 50% of his cap hit. Wouldn’t want to do that with Rielly.
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Not that it means much but Calgary is also holding onto 50% of his cap hit. Wouldn’t want to do that with Rielly.
Different type of scenario because he’s a pending UFA so they are retaining to fit him under the playoff cap. But he’s going to get a new contract and it’s going to be a bigger cap hit next year.
But the Leafs still have assets like OEL, Tanev, Carlo etc. who they can trade that don’t have the same type of destructive cap hit as Rielly.
If the Leafs were to sell hard, they could get a boat load in return.
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Different type of scenario because he’s a pending UFA so they are retaining to fit him under the playoff cap. But he’s going to get a new contract and it’s going to be a bigger cap hit next year.
But the Leafs still have assets like OEL, Tanev, Carlo etc. who they can trade that don’t have the same type of destructive cap hit as Rielly.
If the Leafs were to sell hard, they could get a boat load in return.
Sigh, lol can you just let me keep dreaming about moving the one d man I really want to see go?
I get what you’re saying but unless they truly fall out of the race it won’t happen, especially under Treliving, so to get the trades you’re wishing for you better hope for a losing streak that takes them out of the wildcard race. I get the division leaders argument you make but I simply cannot see ownership allowing a blowup unless the playoffs are truly and completely out of sight. If anything they’ll somehow spend stupidly and go the other way. Fuck sakes they better not sell Cowan. That would sincerely piss me off. That kid is no superstar but he’s built for the Toronto market perfectly.
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Sigh, lol can you just let me keep dreaming about moving the one d man I really want to see go?
I get what you’re saying but unless they truly fall out of the race it won’t happen, especially under Treliving, so to get the trades you’re wishing for you better hope for a losing streak that takes them out of the wildcard race. I get the division leaders argument you make but I simply cannot see ownership allowing a blowup unless the playoffs are truly and completely out of sight. If anything they’ll somehow spend stupidly and go the other way. Fuck sakes they better not sell Cowan. That would sincerely piss me off. That kid is no superstar but he’s built for the Toronto market perfectly.
If you want to dream about moving Rielly, start calling Seattle. They are a playoff team and closer to “home” than Toronto is.
Treliving must be fired. He can’t build a winner and he can’t rebuild either. He is another JFJ. Son of a successful man but incompetent on his own merit.
Absolutely, if losing 10 straight means this team blows it up and rebuilds, let’s go, start losing immediately. Better to bottom out than be 9th place every year like the Kessel years.
While all the homers are looking at this recent stretch as “the real Leafs” they haven’t been watching Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is becoming the beast of the East again. Carolina is one “star” player or goalie away from being unbeatable too. And the West has Colorado, Vegas, Edmonton and Dallas, all teams the Leafs couldn’t beat in a 7 game Final series. This team is a pretender.
I’d rather they not sell Cowan too and trade everybody over 25 but Cowan isn’t THAT good either. At absolute best, he’d be a hold over like Kadri was in the previous rebuild.
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If you want to dream about moving Rielly, start calling Seattle. They are a playoff team and closer to “home” than Toronto is.
Treliving must be fired. He can’t build a winner and he can’t rebuild either. He is another JFJ. Son of a successful man but incompetent on his own merit.
Absolutely, if losing 10 straight means this team blows it up and rebuilds, let’s go, start losing immediately. Better to bottom out than be 9th place every year like the Kessel years.
While all the homers are looking at this recent stretch as “the real Leafs” they haven’t been watching Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is becoming the beast of the East again. Carolina is one “star” player or goalie away from being unbeatable too. And the West has Colorado, Vegas, Edmonton and Dallas, all teams the Leafs couldn’t beat in a 7 game Final series. This team is a pretender.
I’d rather they not sell Cowan too and trade everybody over 25 but Cowan isn’t THAT good either. At absolute best, he’d be a hold over like Kadri was in the previous rebuild.
Oh like I’ve said they can move whoever but I’m one of those fans that will always cheer for a win each game.
As for Cowan I just love the kid, he handles Toronto just fine, plays well, I know his Aunt lol, but he’ll reach being another Domi-esque type? Whatever price that ends up being at that year. I’d love the leafs to keep that due to the fact that he can, as I said, handle the media just fine 👍
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I find it ironically hilarious that whenever I check in here it’s basically just you two guys left bickering/discussing/arguing like two retirees in a coffee shop. Or maybe an old couple. Carry on.
Should I just become a judgemental bitch that does nothing more than point out things that I don’t enjoy like you nowadays? 😉
Cheers
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I find it ironically hilarious that whenever I check in here it’s basically just you two guys left bickering/discussing/arguing like two retirees in a coffee shop. Or maybe an old couple. Carry on.
Should I just become a judgemental bitch that does nothing more than point out things that I don’t enjoy like you nowadays? 😉
Cheers
there is a few around here that fit that mold
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do we know if Knies will play tonight?
David Alter just tweeted no, Quillan is in
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do we know if Knies will play tonight?
David Alter just tweeted no, Quillan is in
And now he’s correcting himself and is saying he is in and he just skipped the rushes
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do we know if Knies will play tonight?
yup, he’s in
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yup, he’s in
I’m going to see if he continues to be sensitive to the right leg. After that first shift he floated to the bench on his left skate from centre ice entirely. No game around him at all so that might be all it was but I’m curious if he’ll continue to favour the right side when he can.
Anyways ouch on that PK
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That one stung a bit, Wild are a good team but the Leafs didn’t play a full 60 at all and paid the price.
Feels like the Detroit game is a big one and they need points, the Atlantic is still so tight it’s crazy.
The Atlantic is also the toughest division in hockey top to bottom really, I mean look at the Pacific compared to the Atlantic.
The Oilers with 2 more points than the Leafs in one more game and they are sitting in 2nd in the Pacific, San Jose in 3rd and wouldn’t even be in a playoff spot in the Atlantic.
Sucks to be in the Atlantic right now, knowing who ever your team matches up against in the 1st round is going to be a tough draw.
It’s surprising that more teams from the Western Conference haven’t won the cup lately, they should almost all have had an easy path to get to the finals than those coming out of the East.
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That one stung a bit, Wild are a good team but the Leafs didn’t play a full 60 at all and paid the price.
Feels like the Detroit game is a big one and they need points, the Atlantic is still so tight it’s crazy.
The Atlantic is also the toughest division in hockey top to bottom really, I mean look at the Pacific compared to the Atlantic.
The Oilers with 2 more points than the Leafs in one more game and they are sitting in 2nd in the Pacific, San Jose in 3rd and wouldn’t even be in a playoff spot in the Atlantic.
Sucks to be in the Atlantic right now, knowing who ever your team matches up against in the 1st round is going to be a tough draw.
It’s surprising that more teams from the Western Conference haven’t won the cup lately, they should almost all have had an easy path to get to the finals than those coming out of the East.
How do you think Edmonton got there? Twice, lol.
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come on boys ….
down by 2How close is Stolarz?
Asking for a friend…
Assigned to the Marlies on a conditioning loan 59 minutes ago. So, close?
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could there be a Leafs goalie trade coming up?[/quote]
That would be foolish imo…..so with Tre….maybe
Woll is always a question mark when it comes to health….Stolarz is similar and we dont know which stolarz we are going to get back.
The beast as looked great, but its only been a short stint, is he the answer long term? Too early to tell.Keep 3 goalies until the off season…..heck Id even keep 3 goalies going forward beyond that.
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Boy that Tarasenko guy, Leafs missed a chance on that one. But it’s not like the Leafs needed to sign anybody to help the PP who won a Stanley Cup under Berube…
He’d probably have 30-40 playing with any combo of Matthews, Knies, Tavares and Nylander, especially on the PP. Much better to have plugs like Maccelli for 3.4 AAV.
Leafs just did not show up at home. Minnesota is a terrible state but they’re a great hockey team and the Leafs were outplayed. If Woll doesn’t stand on his head, the Leafs are helpless.
The Leafs are SO BACK to being a wild card pretender.
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That would be foolish imo…..so with Tre….maybe
Woll is always a question mark when it comes to health….Stolarz is similar and we dont know which stolarz we are going to get back.
The beast as looked great, but its only been a short stint, is he the answer long term? Too early to tell.Keep 3 goalies until the off season…..heck Id even keep 3 goalies going forward beyond that.
I wish Woll well but it’s literally a matter of time before he gets hurt again. The Leafs will need to keep all 3 goalies unless they want to tank. Hildeby will be sent back down and be back-up eventually.
Stolarz was always overrated, he played above his head last year. With so much down time this year, he should be the back-up and keep Woll rested.
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Boy that Tarasenko guy, Leafs missed a chance on that one. But it’s not like the Leafs needed to sign anybody to help the PP who won a Stanley Cup under Berube…
He’d probably have 30-40 playing with any combo of Matthews, Knies, Tavares and Nylander, especially on the PP. Much better to have plugs like Maccelli for 3.4 AAV.
Leafs just did not show up at home. Minnesota is a terrible state but they’re a great hockey team and the Leafs were outplayed. If Woll doesn’t stand on his head, the Leafs are helpless.
The Leafs are SO BACK to being a wild card pretender.
but he’s over 25, doesn’t fit the mold.
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That would be foolish imo…..so with Tre….maybe
Woll is always a question mark when it comes to health….Stolarz is similar and we dont know which stolarz we are going to get back.
The beast as looked great, but its only been a short stint, is he the answer long term? Too early to tell.Keep 3 goalies until the off season…..heck Id even keep 3 goalies going forward beyond that.
I wish Woll well but it’s literally a matter of time before he gets hurt again. The Leafs will need to keep all 3 goalies unless they want to tank. Hildeby will be sent back down and be back-up eventually.
Stolarz was always overrated, he played above his head last year. With so much down time this year, he should be the back-up and keep Woll rested.
I think a team would claim him.
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Going to game tomorrow, they better play well…or else.
or else you’ll drown your sorrows with some Rye Wiskey.????
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but he’s over 25, doesn’t fit the mold.
For a rebuild, absolutely he does not. But in the offseason, the Leafs were trying to replace Marner on the PP and add a top-six winger with playoff, Cup winning experience. And he played under Berube when he won the Cup. He’s got an obvious connection. Tarasenko signed for 4.5 AAV. Leafs wasted AAV on Maccelli.
At the same time, if the team still sucked, Tarasenko becomes a valuable trade chip you can move at the deadline for a 1st or 2nd round pick. Maccelli isn’t worth shit. Treliving’s talent evaluation skills are retarded.
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I think a team would claim him.
https://puckpedia.com/waivers-tracker/dennis-hildeby
It’s going to be difficult to make a claim when he is waiver exempt.
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Going to game tomorrow, they better play well…or else.
or else you’ll drown your sorrows with some Rye Wiskey.????
Single Malt.
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I think a team would claim him.
Waiver exempt I believe[/quote]
yup, he is.
the broadcasters were talking like he wasn’t.
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I think a team would claim him.
Waiver exempt I believe
yup, he is.
the broadcasters were talking like he wasn’t.[/quote]
I’m not sure the exact broadcaster conversation you’re referencing, but the real talking point is next year when Hildebeast is no longer waiver exempt. Do you pull the trigger now on a tendie trade when you’ll get a better return, or do you wait to see how things shake down over the next few months and make a trade in the offseason or next year when other teams know you HAVE to make a trade.Whatever happens, I know some people will complain either way.
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I’m not sure the exact broadcaster conversation you’re referencing, but the real talking point is next year when Hildebeast is no longer waiver exempt. Do you pull the trigger now on a tendie trade when you’ll get a better return, or do you wait to see how things shake down over the next few months and make a trade in the offseason or next year when other teams know you HAVE to make a trade.
Whatever happens, I know some people will complain either way.
It makes absolutely no sense to trade any goalies right now. Woll and Stolarz are both frequently on the LTIR and Hildeby is still waive exempt.
Stolarz, with his injury, poor numbers and contract, is worth next to nothing. Woll is their most valuable goalie so why trade him unless you want to tank? And Hildeby is worth next to nothing right now given how few games he’s played with mixed results over the span of his NHL career.
Best move is to get Stolarz back into action, hope he improves his value and then jettison his contract when he’s improved his value.
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Cody Bellinger back to the Yanks, 5yr/$162.5M.
Jays are out of options for a big move,
but there are still some options out there to improve.
Not really.
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Hope OEL is ok
yeah, that be a big blow the the Leafs d
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Leafs to the PP 👍
another one on its way
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penalty shot for Laughton !!!!!!
no go
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This team is not going to make the playoffs by desperately hanging on for loser points. Problem is they probably aren’t good enough to take the game to the teams above them in the standings on a consistent basis.
I was in Scotia Bank Arena yesterday. It was not bad games, but this team is not good enough to compete on highest level.
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This team is not going to make the playoffs by desperately hanging on for loser points. Problem is they probably aren’t good enough to take the game to the teams above them in the standings on a consistent basis.
Honestly, this team hasnt been good enough for about 7 years now. They really need a reboot (ala boston and so many others), Tre/dubas has really screwed this franchise over.
Waisting 1st round picks last deadline will set this team back for a while.
They’ll end up just outside the playoffs or squeak in just to lose in 5. Either way whatever. -
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This team is not going to make the playoffs by desperately hanging on for loser points. Problem is they probably aren’t good enough to take the game to the teams above them in the standings on a consistent basis.
They need to win 7 out of 10 games for the rest of the year.
It won’t happen. Too many road games, too many difficult opponents, too many other teams fighting for points and this team isn’t built well or healthy enough to withstand the pressure.
Leafs have the chance to boo Marner on home ice after they play a back to back. Should be an easy win. Will it be?
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This team is not going to make the playoffs by desperately hanging on for loser points. Problem is they probably aren’t good enough to take the game to the teams above them in the standings on a consistent basis.
They need to win 7 out of 10 games for the rest of the year.
It won’t happen. Too many road games, too many difficult opponents, too many other teams fighting for points and this team isn’t built well or healthy enough to withstand the pressure.
Leafs have the chance to boo Marner on home ice after they play a back to back. Should be an easy win. Will it be?
You’re doing it too much lover!! These laffs fans are gonna catch on to our system! Look back through your posts, it’s a lot.
We make it seem like even if the leafs do well, they were supposed to because it’s easy, but if they lose we laff at them. They are caching on to our win/win way of posting. We also are posting in hindsight too much. They are figuring us on that as well.
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Honestly, this team hasnt been good enough for about 7 years now.
This is wrong. The Leafs were “good enough” last year to beat Florida 3 times. That’s more than Edmonton. That’s more than Carolina. That’s more than Tampa Bay.
They did not beat Florida but they got closer as anybody else did. With the injuries the Panthers have had this year, they are not the same threat this year. Had the Leafs brought back Marner and created an improved version of the team they had last year (dump Rielly, Tavares, among others) they would be the best team in the Atlantic.
The Leafs succeeded vs. Florida because of the contributions of Knies, Matthews and Marner. That line won them 3 games and kept the Barkov line in check defensively.
The players that lost them the series vs. Florida was Tavares, Nylander, Rielly and Carlo. They decided to destroy their 1st line and retain the players that lost them the series and here we are, a shit team because of it.
They really need a reboot (ala boston and so many others),
They need a full tear down, rebuild. They have a bad team but many top prized assets. They could be rebuilt for 2030 if they go full tilt sellers.
They’ll end up just outside the playoffs or squeak in just to lose in 5. Either way whatever.
Correct.
Tre/dubas has really screwed this franchise over. Waisting 1st round picks last deadline will set this team back for a while.
King fuck up #1 is Shanahan who hired both Dubas and Treliving. Dubas compromised this team but what Treliving did to the team was destroy it. He let Marner walk. He continued to build around Tavares (career loser), Rielly (defensively worthless), Nylander (defensively worthless and offensively disappeared vs. Florida) and brought in random 3rd and 4th line plugs like Maccelli, Joshua and Roy. He threw away two 1st round picks and Minten for Carlo (terrible vs. Florida) and Laughton (not terrible but not worth a 1st). Now they have no future, no assets to trade and the 3rd oldest team in the NHL that has got them all the way to 9th place.
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This is wrong. The Leafs were “good enough” last year to beat Florida 3 times. That’s more than Edmonton. That’s more than Carolina. That’s more than Tampa Bay.
They did not beat Florida but they got closer as anybody else did. With the injuries the Panthers have had this year, they are not the same threat this year. Had the Leafs brought back Marner and created an improved version of the team they had last year (dump Rielly, Tavares, among others) they would be the best team in the Atlantic.
Its not wrong.
You have to win 4 games…who cares if they won 3 or more than edmonton etc. That means nothing.
Bringing back marner might have gotten them 2 more wins than they have now. Marner did nothing for them in the playoffs, this has been proven over and over again (disappears when it counts) and dumping a $4.5m 0.86 ppg player in JT would not have improved this team. Had they brought marner back at $13.5m/$14m, they’d have absolutely no depth (they’d have more crappy AHL’ers in the line up with all the recent injuries) and would have had no money in the off season to create an “improved” version of the team they had last year. That’s just stupid, quit living in a fantasy world, thats just stupid …..but expected from you.
7-9 years with marner….the leafs accomplished nothing. Marner isnt/wasnt the solution to this team…just another high priced soft player.Anywho, for the leafs sake, they better squeak into the playoffs to avoid giving another quality prospect to boston.
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Leafs “fans” in the building are going to embarrass themselves tonight. I don’t blame Marner for getting out of town. Those fans should direct their ire at management.
Yes Marner bled every last dime he could from the Leafs, but they gave him that contract.
you going to the game tonight?
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Leafs “fans” in the building are going to embarrass themselves tonight. I don’t blame Marner for getting out of town. Those fans should direct their ire at management.
Yes Marner bled every last dime he could from the Leafs, but they gave him that contract.
Absolutely, the “fans” will show exactly how retarded they are and how justified he was in leaving this retarded organization with some really retarded fans behind.
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No dmntd I’m not. The people who go to games are predominantly people with a lot of cash looking for something to do or to be seen. They’ll get all liquored up on Chardonnay and boo Marner every time he touches the puck. Embarrassing.
The management of this franchise will always be the biggest reason for it’s failures. But the dumbest of the fans, of which there are a lot of, will always support and encourage that failure. This is a blatant example of it that the stupidest sheep fans won’t even realize.
Its not wrong.
It’s wrong as you are wrong more often than not.
You have to win 4 games…who cares if they won 3 or more than edmonton etc. That means nothing.
Again, retarded. It does matter. They did not win but they clearly showed they can hang with the best. They destroyed that.
Bringing back marner might have gotten them 2 more wins than they have now.
Wrong again retard, they’d be in 1st. The PP alone would propel them to 1st.
Marner did nothing for them in the playoffs, this has been proven over and over again (disappears when it counts)
Sorry retard, you’re wrong again. Marner has more career playoff points than Matthews, Nylander and Tavares. He had involvement in 3 GAME WINNING GOALS vs. Florida with two PRIMARY assists and one GAME WINNING GOAL.
Only a total retard like yourself could possibly believe that equates to doing “nothing” or “disappearing when it counts”. How many points did Tavares and Nylander have WHEN IT COUNTED vs. Florida? They had ZERO after Game 2. Z E R O. Literally NOTHING. Z E R O. Everything you say about Marner is literally a lie but true about the players they still have. Damn, it matches your retarded politics perfectly.
and dumping a $4.5m 0.86 ppg player in JT would not have improved this team.
Dumping a career loser like Tavares would have made this team better. He’s useless defensively and sucks dick in the playoffs his entire career. Now he’s 35 only contributing to the Leafs being the 3rd oldest team in the NHL.
Had they brought marner back at $13.5m/$14m, they’d have absolutely no depth (they’d have more crappy AHL’ers in the line up with all the recent injuries) and would have had no money in the off season to create an “improved” version of the team they had last year.
Another lie about “depth”. Maccelli, Roy and Joshua are dog shit. Depth has done nothing for this team except make them wild card pretenders.
Funny how those crappy AHLers play with heart and motivation when they get called up though. The “improvement” would have come from dumping the actual dogshit players like Rielly, Carlo and Tavares which would have easily created more cap space to sign that “depth” you beg so hard for.
That’s just stupid, quit living in a fantasy world, thats just stupid …..but expected from you.
As I have disproven your retarded claims it’s quiet easy to see you’re the stupid one here but I expect nothing less than pure retardation from you by now. Maybe by your next reply you will learn what a paragraph is.
7-9 years with marner….the leafs accomplished nothing. Marner isnt/wasnt the solution to this team…just another high priced soft player.
7-9 years of Tavares, Nylander and Matthews also accomplished nothing. But they’re super fantastic high priced soft players so they’re going to get the job done, right?
Anywho, for the leafs sake, they better squeak into the playoffs to avoid giving another quality prospect to boston.
The Leafs with Marner won the division and took Florida to Game 7 and now you’re just praying they make 8th just so Boston doesn’t get a quality prospect. Nothing you said made any sense but your last line revealed what you’re retarded brain can’t come to terms with and say openly; the Leafs royally fucked up and seeing how far they’ve fallen should make that obvious.
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Don’t forget loozzeerrss! Mitch fucked you over clowns! He knew how retarded this market is!! His agent told tre and the laffs that he was willing to be moved before new years last season bahahahaha.
Lmao we win!! Mitch took the laffs for a ride! He put the ol’ screw to the chance of getting Rantanen, mailed it in for half a season (except for personal points to get bigger deal), and was classic magic man in playoffs again with the great disappearance. Now you only get Roy hahahaha! From Mitch to all of you: Suck it you loozzerrs I gots my moneys and tan and screwed you out of a playoff performing Finnish winger!Mmmmmmiiiiitttcchh Mmmaaaarrrnneerrrr
Oh no!!! Update while typing this…..Laffs are going with Stolarz who hasn’t played in months. Should be an easy win for a FAR FAR FAR superior cup contender over a group of pretenders!!!!! Lmao
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Jesus there is some grade A horseshit in here today.
Has some loser has now created an alt to appear to be 50 MC? The amount of anger doesn’t jive with how he’s been posting this season and god knows the one moron here loves to do that and has so many alts nobody can keep track.
Just so I’m clear, the other moron who spouted non stop last year and continues this year about how terrible pretty much every leaf not named Mitch Marner was then / is now is also saying the Leafs last year were really good because they won the most games vs Florida than anyone else.
So last year they were good, except they weren’t but they were – this year they suck because Marner is gone.
Marner who did jack shit in the late games in the series – again.
And this is from the guy who can’t call other people a retard enough.
You just can’t make this shit up. lmao
UG must either get his rocks off every time he uses the word or gets paid every time he uses it.
Go Leafs Go
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No dmntd I’m not. The people who go to games are predominantly people with a lot of cash looking for something to do or to be seen. They’ll get all liquored up on Chardonnay and boo Marner every time he touches the puck. Embarrassing.
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Looks like this site resurrected from the dead
Was it a glitch after 200 pages?Anyhoo, fans have a right to boo Marner if they wish 🤷🏼
He did refuse a trade and wouldn’t resign, thus crippling our franchise
And……he is a whiny little MitchGo 🍁 Go
💙Honestly, I never respected Mitch for his general attitude and insane situations and comments off the ice. Helluva regular season player, but an absolute fucking idiot otherwise, (not to mention games 5-7 in the playoffs). But he would gain a shred of respect from me if he just LEANED into a villain role. Make comments to the media about how he’ll win a cup with Vegas before Toronto does. Trash the fans. Trash the city. Just fucking lean into it. But, the kid just wants to be loved because his dad is a fucking asshole, so that’s not gonna happen.
Enjoy your night, Mitchy Pooh.
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Hey Leafs fans: boo the management. They’re the ones who’ve let you down for over 50 years. 😉
We did, that’s why everyone was calling for Dubas and Shanny to be run out of town.
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That did not take long for theLeafs to give up the first goal of the game.
It’s over. Change the channel to Curling
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That did not take long for theLeafs to give up the first goal of the game.
It’s over. Change the channel to Curling
don’t think the boys came to play tonight
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I concur. It’s time to sell. Looking at the standings, plus the injuries on this team, it looks like this season is toast. There’s good effort out there, but they just don’t have enough to get over the top. All of the early games were squandered, mostly at home. So many points lost in overtime and shootouts. The Leafs never really addressed a second line winger. Their best assets are all in goal right now and it’s time to move Stolarz. I’m not saying that Stolarz isn’t the 3rd string goaltender, it’s about his age and having him under contract for a few more years giving their trading partner cost certainty. Players like Carlo and McMann are great bargaining chips and should be looked at as assets for trades. The Leafs need to get younger and get some draft capital back. Tank now and get a top 5 pick is a must. The Leafs could rebound like Boston, if they stop procrastinating and make meaningful trades now. Time has pretty much run out and looking at their schedule, it’s gloomy. Too many West Coast trips and by the time they get back from the Olympic break, they’re basically dead in the water. Time to start the retool, not the burn it to the ground and start again foolishness.
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2-0!
Eat Marners shit.
Then eat each others shit made up of Marners shit.
Suck the big fucking L.
LOL, evening Benny.
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laughton is sent to the sin bin for two or less
power kill for the Leafs >>
it was killed …
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2-0!
Eat Marners shit.
Then eat each others shit made up of Marners shit.
Suck the big fucking L.
LOL, evening Benny.
G’evening good sir.
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JT cleans up after Knies and Goal !!!
BOO Yeah !!!
Marner -1 and has done nothing but poke pucks to empty areas of the ice.
Benny was mentioning something about Marner and shit, I guess he’s finally realizing it.
(That was a nice pass though, doesn’t deserve an assist).
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damn
down by 2 againah 3 now 🙁
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Scotty T Rotten !!!!!!
Penalty shot redemption.
Now keep this going… for the next two months and beyond.
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Why the fuck did we start Stollarz? Thats on Chief. How does this team come out with this kind of effort in a game of this importance? They probably beat Avs again though, this team makes no sense.
Boy, we miss Willy and Tanev.
Don’t know what he was thinking. If he did indeed get dummied by Tie Domi as rumours suggest, he might be a bit foggy.
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Don’t know what he was thinking. If he did indeed get dummied by Tie Domi as rumours suggest, he might be a bit foggy.
Wait, what is the story here?!?!?
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Don’t know what he was thinking. If he did indeed get dummied by Tie Domi as rumours suggest, he might be a bit foggy.
Wait, what is the story here?!?!?
Unverified rumours floating around on X that Tie and Craig got into an argument Thursday evening and it escalated big time.
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Why the fuck did we start Stollarz? Thats on Chief. How does this team come out with this kind of effort in a game of this importance? They probably beat Avs again though, this team makes no sense.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Boy, we miss Willy and Tanev.
If the teams were reversed, missing your top dman, top winger and your starting goalie not having played since November would be a perfectly acceptable reason for not winning.
Of course as we know that’s not allowed when it’s the Leafs only other teams. Absolute Morons were already hedging their bets before the puck dropped with the “Vegas on the 2nd night of a back to back” BS.
Such a transparent and insanely childish move so they can shit on the Leafs regardless of the outcome – as usual. 🙄
And boom just like that it’s 4-3. 🚨🚨🚨
Vegas SHOULD win this game they have been better than the Leafs so far this season. If they can’t win this game they are showing how flawed they are.
Go Leafs Go!
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If the teams were reversed, missing your top dman, top winger and your starting goalie not having played since November would be a perfectly acceptable reason for not winning.
Of course as we know that’s not allowed when it’s the Leafs only other teams. Absolute Morons were already hedging their bets before the puck dropped with the “Vegas on the 2nd night of a back to back” BS.
Such a transparent and insanely childish move so they can shit on the Leafs regardless of the outcome – as usual. 🙄
And boom just like that it’s 4-3. 🚨🚨🚨
Vegas SHOULD win this game they have been better than the Leafs so far this season. If they can’t win this game they are showing how flawed they are.
Go Leafs Go!
100%, which is why I typically don’t engage with the overly emotional types on this board. Does this team have its flaws? 100%. They have a motivation problem and a problem staying healthy. Is this team insanely talented? 100%. If they can get healthy, and bring the intensity that they brought vs the Avs and the first half of the first Vegas team, they’ll be fine.
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Get that man under contract. 3.25 X 4
or trade chip? late 1st rnd …..
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Get that man under contract. 3.25 X 4
or trade chip? late 1st rnd …..
And Hamilton
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Why the fuck did we start Stollarz? Thats on Chief. How does this team come out with this kind of effort in a game of this importance? They probably beat Avs again though, this team makes no sense.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Boy, we miss Willy and Tanev.
If the teams were reversed, missing your top dman, top winger and your starting goalie not having played since November would be a perfectly acceptable reason for not winning.
Of course as we know that’s not allowed when it’s the Leafs only other teams. Absolute Morons were already hedging their bets before the puck dropped with the “Vegas on the 2nd night of a back to back” BS.
Such a transparent and insanely childish move so they can shit on the Leafs regardless of the outcome – as usual. 🙄
And boom just like that it’s 4-3. 🚨🚨🚨
Vegas SHOULD win this game they have been better than the Leafs so far this season. If they can’t win this game they are showing how flawed they are.
Go Leafs Go!
Quit your crying Cush.
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Was Marner just drying his dry hair?
👍😂
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Get that man under contract. 3.25 X 4
or trade chip? late 1st rnd …..
Package him for Robertson😁
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Fack. Make a save Stollie.
Reminds me of the second time we had Cujo. The guy is stiffer than Zezel when Gravy comes around.
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Fack. Make a save Stollie.
Reminds me of the second time we had Cujo. The guy is stiffer than Zezel when Gravy comes around.
I miss those guys.
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Marner empty netter incoming.
You just know it’ll happen.
Wrong, as usual.
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ah freken man
dwon by 2 again.make that 3.
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Oh wait mister Selke wasn’t on the ice to defend the lead late?
Stone gets it instead.
Marner a non-factor zeros across the board except for his one shot on net. Lol
Ya he is a difference maker, for sure the Leafs win tonight of they had kept him. 🙄
Vegas wins as they should have right?
Flush it – move on and hope for Tanev and Willy to get back soon – they are missed.
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<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Marner empty netter incoming.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>You just know it’ll happen.
<p class=”userway-s7-active” style=”font-family: Arial, serif !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s7-styled=”true”>Wrong, as usual.
Yes you were and are yet again after yapping about how Marner was going to come back and burn the Leafs.
🤣🤣🤣
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Surprise surprise – Bitchy lil’ Mitchy was a fucking no show in a pressure game. My favourite part was his teammates clearly overcompensating for him during his tribute. This fucking pussy will buckle cave or cry and his new teammates know it. What a puff. He’s as fragile as UGs blowup doll boyfriend and AA’s hearing aid
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Gentlemen, tone it down or I will have to start banning.
Letting Marner walk for nothing, what a Sin.
He didn’t walk, that whiny little bitch would have gotten himself pushed by his dad to his new play area on a wheelie pony
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Gentlemen, tone it down or I will have to start banning.
Letting Marner walk for nothing, what a Sin City.
FTFY
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Jesus there is some grade A horseshit in here today.
And it’s coming directly from your retarded, shit spewing mind.
Marner who did jack shit in the late games in the series – again.
What exactly did Nylander, Tavares, Rielly and Carlo do in the “late” games in the Florida series? Oh right, sweet fuck all except be defensive liabilities.
What did Matthews do? Oh right, he scored one solitary GWG in Game 6 with Marner providing the primary assist. Better than what the rest gave them which was actually nothing.
If a team isn’t “good enough” then getting rid of one of your best players (with no replacement) while making your other best player worse (no more elite playmaker to feed him the puck) is a sure fire way to end up as 9th placed wild card pretenders.
Retard.
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Gentlemen, tone it down or I will have to start banning.
Letting Marner walk for nothing, what a Sin.
it wasn’t for nothing but almost.
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Jesus there is some grade A horseshit in here today.
And it’s coming directly from your retarded, shit spewing mind.
Marner who did jack shit in the late games in the series – again.
What exactly did Nylander, Tavares, Rielly and Carlo do in the “late” games in the Florida series? Oh right, sweet fuck all except be defensive liabilities.
What did Matthews do? Oh right, he scored one solitary GWG in Game 6 with Marner providing the primary assist. Better than what the rest gave them which was actually nothing.
If a team isn’t “good enough” then getting rid of one of your best players (with no replacement) while making your other best player worse (no more elite playmaker to feed him the puck) is a sure fire way to end up as 9th placed wild card pretenders.
Retard.
you cry alot about the past don’t you.
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The Leafs should sell. They won’t, but they should.
1000%. Full tear down rebuild.
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I concur. It’s time to sell. Looking at the standings, plus the injuries on this team, it looks like this season is toast. There’s good effort out there, but they just don’t have enough to get over the top. All of the early games were squandered, mostly at home. So many points lost in overtime and shootouts. The Leafs never really addressed a second line winger. Their best assets are all in goal right now and it’s time to move Stolarz. I’m not saying that Stolarz isn’t the 3rd string goaltender, it’s about his age and having him under contract for a few more years giving their trading partner cost certainty. Players like Carlo and McMann are great bargaining chips and should be looked at as assets for trades. The Leafs need to get younger and get some draft capital back. Tank now and get a top 5 pick is a must. The Leafs could rebound like Boston, if they stop procrastinating and make meaningful trades now. Time has pretty much run out and looking at their schedule, it’s gloomy. Too many West Coast trips and by the time they get back from the Olympic break, they’re basically dead in the water. Time to start the retool, not the burn it to the ground and start again foolishness.
Unfortunately the Leafs played too well for a 15 game stretch and now they BeLeaf they can be a wild card pretender.
It will be impossible for them to tank into the bottom 5 unless they lose 7 out of 10 games the rest of the way. It’s the same as hoping they can win 7 out of every 10 games games to make the playoffs.
Nothing good can or will happen until Treliving is fired. He is the new JFJ.
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Just a reminder of how much the Leafs actually suck…
Under the category of total shot attempts differential, the Leafs are -357, good for 29th. They have 2,247 total shot attempts for which is 23rd overall. They have 2,604 shot attempts against which is 31st overall. After 51 games, it’s pretty obvious that this team is constantly chasing the game. The opponents are routinely taking more shots at the Leafs net than they give up to the Leafs.
For context, the best 4 teams last year in shot attempt differential was Carolina (Eastern Conference Finalist), Florida (Cup Champions), Edmonton (Cup Finalist) and Colorado (best team in the NHL this year). In 2023/2024 the best four teams were Carolina, Florida (Champs), Edmonton (Finalist) and Los Angeles.
Unsurprisingly, this year, the best four teams in shot attempt differential are Carolina, Colorado, Utah and Tampa Bay. Coincidence that 3 of the 4 are 1, 2 and 3 in the overall standings?
Quiet clearly, there is a pattern here. Successful teams and true contenders (Champions) shoot at their opponents more than their opponents shoot back at them.
It’s not rocket appliances but the Leafs just absolutely suck balls at being able to control the game and are incapable of outshooting their opponents on a regular basis. I don’t know if Carolina will ever be able to get over their playoff hump but if Rod Brind’Amour ever becomes available, the Leafs should spend every single possible dollar to get him under contract. His system is the only thing that gives his team a chance to compete and similarly could give this group of players a shot at contending. Berube aren’t going to cut it. This is the wrong group of guys for him to succeed with.
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The day after is still soooooo sweeeeeeett!! Lmfao! We did it! WE won!
For those keeping tabs, me and UGY had the same impact and points in last nights game as Mitch, so yes, WE won. All three of us won.
Mitch is sooo magic, you wouldn’t know he was there if not for the boos.
Wish me, ug, and Mitch the best for the playoffs! You laffs won’t make it and deserve all the shit you can eat! Me and ug have a workout as we prep for the second half of the season, so gotta go!
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Brilliant move to start Stolarz last night, Bérubé. He moved like a 56 year old men’s leaguer.
The asked Berube about that after the game and he said it wasn’t his call. Which means Tre made the call, which means Tre is potentially working on a trade. If a team is looking at Stollarz, they at least want to see he can play a full game. Who knows what Tre is cooking.
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Brilliant move to start Stolarz last night, Bérubé. He moved like a 56 year old men’s leaguer.
Woll was pulled in the game in Vegas last week wasn’t he? Yeah, Stolarz could of played a game or two for the Marlies to shake some of that rust of.
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Brilliant move to start Stolarz last night, Bérubé. He moved like a 56 year old men’s leaguer.
The asked Berube about that after the game and he said it wasn’t his call. Which means Tre made the call, which means Tre is potentially working on a trade. If a team is looking at Stollarz, they at least want to see he can play a full game. Who knows what Tre is cooking.
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Watching the Bruins and Habs and I must say, the youth and exuberance was entertaining to watch. It reminded me about the 2nd season of Matthews, Marner and company. At that point, the sky was the limit. The only issue was in goal. Fast forward 7 years and the rolls are reversed. Very little youth, very little exuberance, but the goaltending is very good. It seems like the Leafs are always out of balance. Once costent was neither part of the last 9 year was having a stud defenseman that could play 30 minutes a game and quarterback the powerplay. A whole decade wasted, due to mismanagement. The talent hid a lot of the warts, but the results tell the real story. I truly want the Leafs to win, but this group isn’t going to be the one to take them to the promised land. Right now, watching a full Leafs game is a waste of 3 hours and you might as well enjoy a good movie, then waste your time thinking this team will entertain you. Although I mostly disagree with much of what UG says, he’s right this time. It’s time to gut this seal and rework the roster. Maybe it is time to move Matthews, if a team with the assets is willing to give us a premium. Tank the rest of the way and see if we can get to the top 5 of the draft. Better to do it now, than stay in the bottom 10 and give up a high 1st rounder. It’s going to hurt, but it’s the only way to rebound quickly.
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Leafs “fans” in the building are going to embarrass themselves tonight. I don’t blame Marner for getting out of town. Those fans should direct their ire at management.
Yes Marner bled every last dime he could from the Leafs, but they gave him that contract.
Nope.
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Wow.
Marner does nothing in a big game. No surprise.
The leafs dont show up in a big game. No surprise.Three things can be true, Marner is a soft reg season points getter who disappears when it counts and the leafs still have a team of no shows led by Captain rarely lays in on the line and management has been horrible with allocating cap.
I see the little insecure boy is still on here spewing his maga empty headed nonsense.
Dummy: “the leafs need marner to win”
Us: We had marner for 9 years didnt win anything and he disappeared in games 5 – 7, every series. When it counted and got tough.
Dummy: “thats everyone else’s fault, you retard”What a low life moron.
Marner would have costed the leafs $14m to stay – but he didnt want to…HE DIDNT WANT TO.
So far he has 52pts
Roy, Maccelli, and Joshua cost about $9.2m and have 48pts together and the leafs still have $5m available. So toss in JT and his 44pts at $4.3m
So for $13.5m the leafs have 92pts from 5 players or they could have had 52pts from one player.Now not saying all the above are the best way to spend $9.2m but its not the worse.
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Would you trade Cowan for Wright?
I wouldn’t but to be fair I’m biased as hell since I know and grew up with his family members lol
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Go Leafs Go!!! 👍👍👍
Go Leafs!!!
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Working on journalism with the game in the background. So far, they’re working hard, but that and $2 gets you a coffee. I think that this game will define whether they try for a playoff spot, or tear it down for the year. Buffalo will be a trial by fire, then the West Coast trip that’ll bleed them physically. Best be getting ready for a purge…..as I type the Avs scored.
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Would you trade Cowan for Wright?
I’d trade Robertson or Maccelli for him but Seattle wouldn’t want that either.
They want a proven top-six winger, not another small rookie winger.
Leafs are the worst team in the entire NHL for goals allowed off giveaways.
Already getting pumped 2-0.
They are SO BACK…to normal…
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Would you trade Cowan for Wright?
I’d trade Robertson or Maccelli for him but Seattle wouldn’t want that either.
They want a proven top-six winger, not another small rookie winger.
Leafs are the worst team in the entire NHL for goals allowed off giveaways.
Already getting pumped 2-0.
They are SO BACK…to normal…
So you you would not trade Cowan for Wright. got it
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Wow.
Marner does nothing in a big game. No surprise.
The leafs dont show up in a big game. No surprise.Marner on a 1st place team while the Leafs are wild card pretenders? No surprise.
Three things can be true, Marner is a soft reg season points getter who disappears when it counts and the leafs still have a team of no shows led by Captain rarely lays in on the line and management has been horrible with allocating cap.
Hey retard, you know what is ACTUALLY true? Marner has more playoff points than Tavares, Nylander and Matthews. You know who showed up vs. the Florida Panthers? Marner, Matthews and Knies. You know who did not? Tavares, Nylander, Rielly and Carlo.
I see the little insecure boy is still on here spewing his maga empty headed nonsense.
I see Carney Cuck boy has to bring it back to politics like a hive minded libtard.
Dummy: “the leafs don’t need marner to win”
Us: Objectively proves Marner was one of the most important players to the Leafs success
Dummy: “Leafs are better off being wild card pretenders”Fixed.
What a low life moron.
Yes, you certainly are retard.
Marner would have costed the leafs $14m to stay – but he didnt want to…HE DIDNT WANT TO.
He didn’t want to leave or he’d be in Carolina. He left because this management team used him as a scapegoat, through the media they own and the violent (car jacked), threatening (doxxed address), retard fans (you), ran him out of town.
So far he has 52pts
Roy, Maccelli, and Joshua cost about $9.2m and have 48pts together and the leafs still have $5m available. So toss in JT and his 44pts at $4.3m
So for $13.5m the leafs have 92pts from 5 players or they could have had 52pts from one player.Now not saying all the above are the best way to spend $9.2m but its not the worse.
Your math doesn’t math at winning hockey games. If McDavid scores 120 points for 12 million and 3 other players combined score 50 points each for 12 million, you still want McDavid. Putting together a collection of 3rd line plugs does not equate to an elite player. You can’t put three 3rd line plugs on the PP in place of Marner and big fucking surprise the Leafs PP has been total dog shit. If that were the case, the Leafs could trade Matthews for three 3rd liners and save cap space but they’d be a lottery team. Fuck you even think about hockey like a communist.
CommyPartofMe: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Had the leafs been healthier this season they would be in a playoff spot.
The Leafs weren’t healthy last year either. Did your retard brain forget that Matthews was useless for almost half the season, they had plenty of injuries in net last year too. But guess what? Marner led the team with 100+ points, 1st in the division and was a leader in taking Florida to Game 7. If they still had him, their PP would be top 10 and they’d be in 1st place. Without him, they are back to being a dog shit wild card pretender.
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Leafs to the power killit was killed 👍
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So you you would not trade Cowan for Wright. got it
I’d prefer to keep Cowan and add Wright but Wright has more value than Cowan, not as small, has proven he can score in the NHL for example. Cowan might have a better overall work ethic.
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Carlo take a holding penalty.
het sits for 2 or less
power kill for da Leaafsit was killed
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Carlo take a holding penalty.
het sits for 2 or less
power kill for da Leaafsit was killed
Leafs are good at the PK because they basically play on the PK when they’re 5 on 5. They’re just adjusted to being in their own zone, collapsing on their own net for survival.
3-0.
Leafs need another miracle to salvage points.
Building filled with the same retards who booed Marner should get a head start home before they get snowed in. Hope the building is completely empty for the 3rd period.
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That’s a wrap. On to Football. Leafs are doing the dogfuk shuffle. Buffalo’s going to end their playoff aspirations next.
if so SELL SELL SELLL Mortamor! SELLLLLLLLLL
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if so SELL SELL SELLL Mortamor! SELLLLLLLLLL
Have to fire Treliving first.
Even if Treliving did decide to sell, I don’t trust him to make the best deals.
He’s a retard who should be making terrible food at Boston Pizza.
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Hire me!!! I couldn’t do any worse than the last 10 GM’s. First thing I’d fix is getting the best scouts available, hiring them away with cash from MLS&E. Second, get the best coach available at the end of the season. I’d auction Matthews off to the highest bidder. Nylander, same thing. Any dumb GM’s that want a 3rd or 4th liner, I’d make them pay a premium, once I upsold them. What pisses me off about Treliving, is the value added trades. Instead of just sending the 1st rounder for a Laughton, they throw in a prospect. The young Russian that had potential, or a Fraser Minton to Boston in the Carlo deal. Having those two might have salvaged the season this year, but no, they’re going to be playing the playoffs with their new teams. It’s a fucking travesty and it’s been the policy for too many decades. Now we sit and watch as the team sinks to the depths of the standings, with no draft capital, and long term high end contracts. Hire me MLS&E! I’ll have you back in the playoffs in 3 years!!!
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Hire me!!! I couldn’t do any worse than the last 10 GM’s. First thing I’d fix is getting the best scouts available, hiring them away with cash from MLS&E. Second, get the best coach available at the end of the season. I’d auction Matthews off to the highest bidder. Nylander, same thing. Any dumb GM’s that want a 3rd or 4th liner, I’d make them pay a premium, once I upsold them. What pisses me off about Treliving, is the value added trades. Instead of just sending the 1st rounder for a Laughton, they throw in a prospect. The young Russian that had potential, or a Fraser Minton to Boston in the Carlo deal. Having those two might have salvaged the season this year, but no, they’re going to be playing the playoffs with their new teams. It’s a fucking travesty and it’s been the policy for too many decades. Now we sit and watch as the team sinks to the depths of the standings, with no draft capital, and long term high end contracts. Hire me MLS&E! I’ll have you back in the playoffs in 3 years!!!
The best scouts available can’t make picks if the picks get traded. The best scouts in the world can’t develop players. Or sign them to contracts. Or trade them. Or coach them.
Reality is, without the absolute best President of Hockey Ops. + GM, this franchise is doomed to mediocrity with zero accountability coming from fans who consistently reward failure.
Remember when Leafs ticket prices drastically spiked this year? Did that positively change a damn thing on the ice?
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Is/will McMann be woth $5M cap hit on the open market?
wow!
I sometimes get the feeling, when he’s playing at his best, that he could be one of those ones that got away if the Leafs let him go but logically, the Leafs should sell high on him to rebuild.
He’s going to be 30, he’s 6’2″, 220 and is basically a 20 goal, 40 point guy. Considering this is a contract year, if he was going to “break out” it should / would have been this year. But he’s the same.
Then again, Hyman, at 31-33, had his 27-36-54 goal seasons. If the Leafs don’t sign McMann for 5 million, do they spend that 5 million on anybody better? Probably not.
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The Leafs can play like this for another 60 minutes without scoring a single goal.
With a PP for 60 minutes and they still might not score a goal or win this game.
Steve Sullivan that PP genius…
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The Leafs can play like this for another 60 minutes without scoring a single goal.
With a PP for 60 minutes and they still might not score a goal or win this game.
Steve Sullivan that PP genius…
I believe not any coach can succeed with this group of players.
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I believe not any coach can succeed with this group of players. Some will do better, but not nearly good enough.
I mostly agree because Berube’s success came with a team that had a top-4 D that included Parayko, Pietroangelo, Bouwmeester and Dunn. Four balanced, 23+ minute per night guys. Then the bottom two guys were Gunnarsson, Edmundson and Bortuzzo on limited minutes. That’s far cry from having to deploy Rielly for 23+ minutes a night.
This collection of players does not suit Berube. With Marner, he had a reliable shut-down, Selke nominated winger who could shut down a line like Barkov. Without Marner, the Leafs top line is way worse defensively, which forces Matthews to play more defensively and also forces him to carry the puck more offensively. That has hurt Matthews a lot at both ends of the ice.
If this group of guys had a coach that let them play an all out attack and could organize the PP better, they would win more games 5-4 but ultimately lose in the playoffs, like they did under Keefe. The only way that style wins is if they have an elite world class goalie, kind of like how Vasilevskiy back stops the Tampa Bay Lightning. But the Leafs have two often injured back-ups so it doesn’t work.
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pp for the Leafs
ah ha ah ha
pp for the Leafs
ah ha ah ha
nice Domi breaks the shutout with a pp goal
boo yeah
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Would you trade Cowan for Wright?
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I wouldnt trade any of our young quality players for any olders players.
This team isnt winning a cup, keep the young talent.Wright is 22 you retard.
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nice Domi breaks the shutout with a pp goal
boo yeah
Needed that PP goal when the Leafs were down 4-3 to Vegas with 7 minutes left in the 3rd period but they were too busy getting 0 shots on net.
That Steve Sullivan PP (33% input) is pooowwwwwwerrrful!
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I think that this team as it sits is unfixable and needs major surgery. Looking at how many top end teams handle the Leafs, they aren’t winning anything this year. Better to divest for draft picks and retool through free agency. Just need to get in the bottom 5 in the draft and move those lost picks 1 year forward. Just let it crash and be done with it. See if Pelly has the guts to completely gut this team and bring in a whole new management team, or is it just more lip service. Empty seats will speak his language.
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I think that this team as it sits is unfixable and needs major surgery. Looking at how many top end teams handle the Leafs, they aren’t winning anything this year. Better to divest for draft picks and retool through free agency. Just need to get in the bottom 5 in the draft and move those lost picks 1 year forward. Just let it crash and be done with it. See if Pelly has the guts to completely gut this team and bring in a whole new management team, or is it just more lip service. Empty seats will speak his language.
Can the Leafs get trans surgery and just identify as Cup champions?
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I think that this team as it sits is unfixable and needs major surgery. Looking at how many top end teams handle the Leafs, they aren’t winning anything this year. Better to divest for draft picks and retool through free agency. Just need to get in the bottom 5 in the draft and move those lost picks 1 year forward. Just let it crash and be done with it. See if Pelly has the guts to completely gut this team and bring in a whole new management team, or is it just more lip service. Empty seats will speak his language.
Can the Leafs get trans surgery and just identify as Cup champions?
ROFL!
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No.
I wouldnt trade any of our young quality players for any olders players.
This team isnt winning a cup, keep the young talent.Wright is 22 you retard.
And cowan is younger, so keep him.
You cowardly incel….wannabe american trash
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I think that this team as it sits is unfixable and needs major surgery. Looking at how many top end teams handle the Leafs, they aren’t winning anything this year. Better to divest for draft picks and retool through free agency. Just need to get in the bottom 5 in the draft and move those lost picks 1 year forward. Just let it crash and be done with it. See if Pelly has the guts to completely gut this team and bring in a whole new management team, or is it just more lip service. Empty seats will speak his language.
I don’t think this is an option. IMO better to just miss the playoffs and have a mid-teen pick going to Boston.
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Angee, Nylandergate is upon us
cause gave the middle finger to the TSN camera.
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I don’t think this is an option. IMO better to just miss the playoffs and have a mid-teen pick going to Boston.
Unless they win the draft lottery.fucking treleaving traded Minton (13g-12a-25p +15) and that 1st for Carlo
so leafy
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fucking treleaving traded Minton (13g-12a-25p +15) and that 1st for Carlo
so leafy
Leafs have been losing out to the Bruins since Bobby Orr.
Should be an outright ban for this franchise to ever make trades with Boston.
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And cowan is younger, so keep him.
You cowardly incel….wannabe american trash
So can’t trade Cowan for McDavid because he’s 21 and McDavid is 29?
You are an absolutely libtarded cuck.
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On the road to nowhere. Time to sell. But because that’s the thing a prudent management would do, of course they won’t.
As I predicted more than a week ago, the Leafs will find a way to go .500 over their stretch before the Olympics and the BeLeafers will take that to mean that they are SO BACK in the race as wild card pretenders.
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Ah gee, Nylandergate is upon us
cause gave the middle finger to the TSN camera.
Another example of a total lack of maturity from Nylander. He’s been in this market long enough to know better. He’s not a leader, he’s a man child who cares more about how his hair looks than doing what it takes to win a Stanley Cup.
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If the Leafs do, by some miracle, fire Treliving and/or come to their senses about their inability to compete for a Stanley Cup this year, the prime candidates to be traded are: Laughton, Carlo, Maccelli, McMann, Jarnkrok, Roy and Stecher.
Between those 7 guys, the Leafs could bring in a lot of draft capital. Laughton, Carlo, McMann and Roy could be in the 1st round pick conversation. Maccelli and Stecher could bring in a 2nd each. Jarnkrok could be a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Having sven more draft picks might not do anything for them this year or next year but if they have the right scouts, that could pay dividends in the future.
From a “value” perspective, having that influx of draft capital could probably help the Leafs land an impact player if they flipped it all for a top-six forward or top-four D.
Either way, the names listed above should all be traded by the deadline.
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If the Leafs do, by some miracle, fire Treliving and/or come to their senses about their inability to compete for a Stanley Cup this year, the prime candidates to be traded are: Laughton, Carlo, Maccelli, McMann, Jarnkrok, Roy and Stecher.
Between those 7 guys, the Leafs could bring in a lot of draft capital. Laughton, Carlo, McMann and Roy could be in the 1st round pick conversation. Maccelli and Stecher could bring in a 2nd each. Jarnkrok could be a 3rd or 4th round pick.
Having sven more draft picks might not do anything for them this year or next year but if they have the right scouts, that could pay dividends in the future.
From a “value” perspective, having that influx of draft capital could probably help the Leafs land an impact player if they flipped it all for a top-six forward or top-four D.
Either way, the names listed above should all be traded by the deadline.
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I Highly doubt the leafs would actually be sellers, but the only 3 players I would have on my no trade is Matthews, Knies and Cowan, trade the rest
Wow, Nylander has not made the list. Impressive.
For me, I would hang on to Laughton unless he wants too much $$$ on his next contract.
You might not get what the Leafs paid to acquire him.Absolutely makes no sense to keep Laughton. His best years are clearly behind him and yes his next contract is a trap contract. He has 8 goals and 10 points. Half his value is based on reputation of years past because his actual output is actual shit and replaceable. He’s not that good. But he’s useful enough to a desperate playoff team to give up a 1st round pick as insurance which is exactly what the Leafs stupidly did last year.
If he wants to come back, he can come back after the Leafs trade him for a 1st round pick. The Leafs don’t need to recover everything they gave up to get him but at minimum they need to bring back a 1st round pick.
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I get the Laughton love from Leaf fans. He’s a throwback to a different era of Leafs hockey, guys who played with tenacity and gave a f@ck. But he should go because this team is not good enough and needs to be retooled. Having said that, the Leafs need to get a LOT more invested in drafting and acquiring character people. The whole “draft the most talented player” to the detriment of team need and player type has resulted in a team with zero leadership, and that folds when things get difficult.
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I get the Laughton love from Leaf fans. He’s a throwback to a different era of Leafs hockey, guys who played with tenacity and gave a f@ck. But he should go because this team is not good enough and needs to be retooled. Having said that, the Leafs need to get a LOT more invested in drafting and acquiring character people. The whole “draft the most talented player” to the detriment of team need and player type has resulted in a team with zero leadership, and that folds when things get difficult.
The Leafs have been chasing the Character grit leadership fantasy for half dozen years..just off the top of my head, all these players were to fill those needs . Muzzin, Simmonds, Foligno, Bogosian, Clifford, Giordano, RoR, Tanev, OEL, Laughton, Pacioretty, Reaves plus whoever
Thortnon, Marleau on and onbut keep trying
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I get the Laughton love from Leaf fans. He’s a throwback to a different era of Leafs hockey, guys who played with tenacity and gave a f@ck. But he should go because this team is not good enough and needs to be retooled. Having said that, the Leafs need to get a LOT more invested in drafting and acquiring character people. The whole “draft the most talented player” to the detriment of team need and player type has resulted in a team with zero leadership, and that folds when things get difficult.
Would you have drafted Matthew Tkachuk over Auston Matthews?
That’s the issue; having the elite talent is always too tempting to pass on. The issue isn’t having elite talent. The issue is not blending in enough character with elite talent.
For example, having Matthews is one thing but having Matthews plus Nylander is another. But at the same time, if the Leafs had drafted Nick Richie over Nylander, they’d be worse off.
There are players out there who play with skill and heart, the Leafs just need to find them. They had a chance at Sam Bennett before he left Calgary. They said no. They had Kadri and Hyman. They let them go. The players are available, they’re even within our system, the management team has just been too stupid to identify them or keep them.
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The Leafs have been chasing the Character grit leadership fantasy for half dozen years..just off the top of my head, all these players were to fill those needs . Muzzin, Simmonds, Foligno, Bogosian, Clifford, Giordano, RoR, Tanev, OEL, Laughton, Pacioretty, Reaves plus whoever
Thortnon, Marleau on and onbut keep trying
You know what is funny about that listen you provided? Not a single one of them were drafted or developed by the Leafs. Not a SINGLE one. And that’s the problem.
Where was the Leafs drafting and development team when all those guys were available on draft day? Were they asleep? Did the Leafs not have a draft pick at all? Or were they busy signing some 2nd tier 5’6″ Swedish winger?
Every single one of those guys the Leafs brought into the organization at either the cost of draft / prospect capital or they signed them when they were past their prime because they wanted to take a retirement lap on their “home” team.
But this franchise just keeps trying to do the same shit and expecting different results.
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It’s got to be in your core group, not just add ons. This is what they have tried the whole Matthew’s era to no avail.
Like I said earlier, would you have drafted Matthew Tkachuk over Matthews and risked drafting Nick Ritchie over Nylander?
The Leafs elected to draft elite talent. That’s fine. The mistake they made was not keeping the heart and soul grit guys they did manage to find like Hyman and Kadri as the glue.
I agree with you, hard work beats skill when skill refuses to work hard but I could make a team of hard working 4th liners that won’t win a single game because they just can’t score enough goals.
The Leafs need to tear it down and rebuild it back up but do it with balance at every position and every characteristic.
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It’s got to be in your core group, not just add ons. This is what they have tried the whole Matthew’s era to no avail.
Agreed and this core doesnt have it..never did. Specially with Marner.
But, its difficult to tell at an early stage of drafting…..definitely for the leafs.Ah well….its only entertainment.
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You know what is funny about that listen you provided? Not a single one of them were drafted or developed by the Leafs. Not a SINGLE one. And that’s the problem.
I dont care about that, it doesnt mean you cant win. Florida has 3 players they drafted, Barkov, Lundell and Ekblad, all the rest were signed or traded for.
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fucking treleaving traded Minton (13g-12a-25p +15) and that 1st for Carlo
so leafy[/quote]
Horrible trade. Hated it then and still do.
Tre doesnt seem to be too great at deadline deals.
Hopefully, he doesnt move any more picks or young players this year. Just sit tight or move out vets for picks/prospects.Id still prefer this leafs team finish in the bottom 5 to push our 1st out another year.
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Horrible trade. Hated it then and still do.
Tre doesnt seem to be too great at deadline deals.
Hopefully, he doesnt move any more picks or young players this year. Just sit tight or move out vets for picks/prospects.Id still prefer this leafs team finish in the bottom 5 to push our 1st out another year.[/quote]
I’m on the opposite side of this. You are moving the issue to a later date.
finish as high you can in the standing. You win the draft lotto, then you keep it.
retool.That trade is not looking good for Leafs as Carlo has not been that good.
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Horrible trade. Hated it then and still do.
Tre doesnt seem to be too great at deadline deals.
Hopefully, he doesnt move any more picks or young players this year. Just sit tight or move out vets for picks/prospects.Id still prefer this leafs team finish in the bottom 5 to push our 1st out another year.
oh Tre also gave a 4th to Boston in that trade
Tre is good in front of a Mic but shit at the roster thing
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Lets see if the Leafs respond to Berube after he called in the Leafs Leadership group into his office for a private meeting.
what if the Leadership problem is Berube and Treliving
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Lets see if the Leafs respond to Berube after he called in the Leafs Leadership group into his office for a private meeting.
what if the Leadership problem is Berube and Treliving
you got a left handed screw driver cause the Leafs are screwed.
That would be a big May/June for the Leafs as they would be relieved of their duties.
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I dont care about that, it doesnt mean you cant win. Florida has 3 players they drafted, Barkov, Lundell and Ekblad, all the rest were signed or traded for.
the problem is trading for Carlo and Laughtons while Florida trades for Marchand and JonesYou should care about it because that’s the best way to acquire talent without a significant cost. Florida was excellent at finding value in players given away for free. The Leafs do the opposite, they let go of talent and don’t draft well enough to make up for it.
You know what else Florida did? They signed Bob. And people like you said they were stupid. The Leafs haven’t had an elite starting goalie in 20 years. They haven’t developed one either. They have two back-ups who are always injured.
Marchand and Jones wanted to play in Florida. Nobody great wants to play in Toronto. Not anybody who can win anyway. Just pajama boy and he’s a career playoff loser. The team isn’t strong enough to attract talent, the weather is shit, the taxes are absurd and management is retarded. You know what options that leaves you with? Learn to draft and develop players. Create a team through the draft that is so strong that players care more about playing here to win than all the negatives about playing in Toronto
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freken Leafs give the 1st goal of the game
I take that back as it was challenged and NO GOAL !!!!
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Matthews gets his 11th goal in 11 games against the Sabres !!!
Goal !!!
BOO Yeah!!!
I know it’s been a tough few games for the team, but it’s been nice seeing Matthews being Matthews again.
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Matthews can’t play defense without Marner. He keeps getting worse in his own end. And Tavares is like -13. What a fucking joke. Trying to play every game to win 5-4.
prior to this game, Domi was a -17 😑
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lol… trade time trade time it’s such a beauty trade time
Islanders and NYD just did one ….
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oh man Leafs are the only team that taken a penalties in this game
Leafs to the power kill .killed 👍
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time to open up the lines of communications with other GMs on Leafs players …..
The have to clean house first.
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lol… trade time trade time it’s such a beauty trade time
Islanders and NYD just did one ….
I’d type it out but it’s too hard to say lol
But the leafs are pretty much what? 6 points out now? To the team they just lost to? Sell time.
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For the first time since he was drafted, I actually felt sorry for Matthews.
The team is Matthews and a bunch of guys named Mo at this point.I don’t think you can make a case for anything other than a firesale, including Matthews. No matter how good he is, they won’t be able to assemble an appropriate supporting cast before he is at the tail end of his career. I have to believe he will ask to be moved.
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You hold on to JT, Knies, Hildebeast, Woll and Willy and fire literally everyone else into the sun.
Cowan is tradeable for me. Maybe you keep Robertson if he’ll help get big bro here next year. Put Rielly in the press box until he accepts a trade literally anywhere for future considerations.
Can do a quick rebuild relatively easily.
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Called it back in November.
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I knew this team was medicore to bad but it’s especially embarassing to shit the bed, at home, to Buffalo, a team they’re chasing for a playoff spot on a night where they honor Sittler. Fucking disgusting. And these retards paying retarded prices for tickets were booing Marner? Boo yourself for supporting this trash.
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You hold on to JT, Knies, Hildebeast, Woll and Willy and fire literally everyone else into the sun.
Cowan is tradeable for me. Maybe you keep Robertson if he’ll help get big bro here next year. Put Rielly in the press box until he accepts a trade literally anywhere for future considerations.
Can do a quick rebuild relatively easily.
I wonder if the Leafs have the cajones to do what Dury did to trade Krieder and Trouba.
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Called it back in November.
UG, you through so much spaghetti to the wall, some of it bound to stick.
Moving players above 25 is not wise.
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Ok time to sell, sell, sell, sell.
Too many injuries and simple lack of heart and effort to get into the playoffs
Bottom out for a top five pick or simply sell any FA’s.
Laughton for a 2nd – which is all he should have been traded for all you’re going to get now.
Maccelli – 3rd
Jarnkrok – 4th or 5th
Robertson – 3rd.I doubt either of the above gets a 1st, unless the leafs are trading with the leafs.
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I knew this team was medicore to bad but it’s especially embarassing to shit the bed, at home, to Buffalo, a team they’re chasing for a playoff spot on a night where they honor Sittler. Fucking disgusting. And these retards paying retarded prices for tickets were booing Marner? Boo yourself for supporting this trash.
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UG, you through so much spaghetti to the wall, some of it bound to stick.
Moving players above 25 is not wise.[/quote]
Did he predict all the injuries, which has been one of the main drivers for the leafs lack of success?
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Ok time to sell, sell, sell, sell.
Too many injuries and simple lack of heart and effort to get into the playoffs
Bottom out for a top five pick or simply sell any FA’s.
Laughton for a 2nd – which is all he should have been traded for all you’re going to get now.
Maccelli – 3rd
Jarnkrok – 4th or 5th
Robertson – 3rd.I doubt either of the above gets a 1st, unless the leafs are trading with the leafs.[/quote]
for me, you are punting the issue to a later date with no protection on the pick.
If the Leafs can finish between the 11th and 16th pick would be better IMO.
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for me, you are punting the issue to a later date with no protection on the pick.
If the Leafs can finish between the 11th and 16th pick would be better IMO.
For me, you keep Laughton unless his salary demands are too high for his next contract. (4yrs @2.5~3M cap hit)[/quote]Agreed, you are punting the issue but you may be punting a worse pick for the team. I dont want to provide the team with a top 16 pick which seems to be what they will be getting now.
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Did he predict all the injuries, which has been one of the main drivers for the leafs lack of success?
He simply whined about baby marner turning down the leafs good offer to run away to vegas.Yes, I actually did. I’ve been saying since day 1 Tanev is a huge injury risk with a trash contract. I did predict Woll and Stolarz injuries, as if that wasn’t obvious.
You’re just an illiterate libtard with a selective cuck memory.
How is Vegas doing? Oh right beat the Leafs twice despite having a multitude of injuries so much so it forced Marner to play center and using 4 or 5 different starting goalies this year. How was Marner last year when Matthews / the goalies werr hurt? Oh right 103 points and 1st in the division. Damn, must suck for you to be too retarded to realize why this team fell off a cliff.
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UG, you through so much spaghetti to the wall, some of it bound to stick.
Moving players above 25 is not wise.
I was right, you were wrong.
Just like I’m right that everyone over 25 must be traded and this team needs to rebuild.
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UG, you through so much spaghetti to the wall, some of it bound to stick.
Moving players above 25 is not wise.
I was right, you were wrong.
Just like I’m right that everyone over 25 must be traded and this team needs to rebuild.
How was I wrong when I did not make any predictions like you did.
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How was I wrong when I did not make any predictions like you did.
You didn’t think this dog shit team was going to make the playoffs week after week of me telling you they weren’t good enough? You’re just lying.
You’re definitely wrong for saying I just throw shit at the wall because I have clearly identified the multitude of flaws with this team at various stages of this season, time and time again.
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Woll looks absolutely gassed. And Stolarz looked like beer leaguer the other night. They have some decisions to make going forward in the net. One of Woll and Stolarz should be moved. But they have a bunch of other players that should be moved as well.
The issue is: who is going to make these decisions? Is Tree our GM next year? If not, why should he decide who stays/goes? As usual, management of the team completely screwed up.
Name me a worse managed professional sports team over the last 55+ years.
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Woll looks absolutely gassed. And Stolarz looked like beer leaguer the other night. They have some decisions to make going forward in the net. One of Woll and Stolarz should be moved. But they have a bunch of other players that should be moved as well.
The issue is: who is going to make these decisions? Is Tree our GM next year? If not, why should he decide who stays/goes? As usual, management of the team completely screwed up.
Name me a worse managed professional sports team over the last 55+ years.
Woll has never stayed healthy or played a full season. He also plays behind a team that gives up more shots and shot attempts on net than pretty much any other team.
Stolarz is the older version of Woll. Good when he’s good, bad when he’s hurt.
You can’t trade either one because Stolarz has a trash contract if he is not playing up to his standard and Woll is still a work in progress. Until they can build up their value, they won’t get anything for them. If they rebuild, they need bad goaltending anyway.
Leafs management is among the worst in all of sports. Treliving must be fired. He can’t be trusted to offload, draft or rebuild. He belongs at a Boston Pizza.
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How was I wrong when I did not make any predictions like you did.
You didn’t think this dog shit team was going to make the playoffs week after week of me telling you they weren’t good enough? You’re just lying.
You’re definitely wrong for saying I just throw shit at the wall because I have clearly identified the multitude of flaws with this team at various stages of this season, time and time again.
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Nope. I had Beleafs in this team up until yesterday.
you just like to shit on them.Exactly. You BeLeafed in this shit team. I did not. So you were wrong and I was right.
Calling them out for what they are is only “shitting on them” to a homer such as yourself. In reality, it’s accurate criticism of a franchise run by morons and financially supported by emotional retards.
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So, looking at potential trading partners for the Leafs, Detroit seems like the perfect fit to extract draft capital in return for the Leafs veterans.
Top of the list will be OEL. It’s pretty obvious that OEL would love to be on a contender, at worst, a playoff team and Detroit is at worst a playoff team and at best a contender if they make upgrades. OEL probably had some sentimental pull towards Toronto given the legends Salming and Sundin. He may have the same pull to Detroit which had Lidstrom and many other Swedish legends of the 90s.
Detroit has a lot of cap space to fit OEL without salary coming back to the Leafs. But the Leafs could afford to take back Gustafsson at 2 AAV to fill the ice time left by OEL. Detroit has not got the offensive production they had hoped when they signed Gustavsson that OEL has clearly provided for a bad Leafs team on a relatively cheap contract. Gustafsson could be given ice time to rebuild value and traded in the future as he has been a deadline rental many times before.
I could see Detroit wanting not only OEL but also a RHD like Carlo. Detroit is said to be looking for a RHD and Carlo could fit their needs as he would not be used as a top pair D. Again, they have a lot of cap space to make it happen.
The Leafs might be able to get a pair of 1st round picks for OEL and Carlo from Detroit.
Other candidates that could be moved to Detroit would be McMann, Roy and Laughton. I could easily see Detroit paying a 1st or a prospect for any of them for an attempt at a playoff run. The same could be said for Montreal and now Buffalo. I would gladly trade all 3 of them to Detroit, Buffalo and Montreal for a 1st round pick each.
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Nope. I had Beleafs in this team up until yesterday.
you just like to shit on them.Exactly. You BeLeafed in this shit team. I did not. So you were wrong and I was right.
Calling them out for what they are is only “shitting on them” to a homer such as yourself. In reality, it’s accurate criticism of a franchise run by morons and financially supported by emotional retards.
that’s because what fan do, the beleafs in the team they support.
so there is nothing wrong with that.
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that’s because what fan do, the beleafs in the team they support.
so there is nothing wrong with that.
You just lost faith in this team a long time ago.No, fans don’t have to have retarded blind faith to be fans, they just choose to have blind faith and use it as a excuse for the failures of the franchise. This franchise needs less blind fan boy homers and more people to hold them accountable.
I lost my faith in this team and it was justified. You had blind faith in this team and they burned you again. It’s like you have a kid with a heroin addiction and you keep buying him needles. That analogy explains why there are so many libtard Leafs fans.
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I’m glad to see Mermis cleared. Not sure why he was on waivers over Myers.
Yeah, Mermis is going to turn the franchise around. He’s the one who will guarantee the Leafs will be SO BACK!
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First up, move a goalie. Stolarz is the first up, for a first. There are teams on the bubble, that could make a run, with an established goaltender. Second up, Rielly…..just get out already! Time’s up! McMann, next up. The Oil could come calling for all 3, but that better be a defenseman coming back and 2 firsts. If the Oil looks at it properly, a Conference Final means 1st rounder at the end of the round. Next Robertson, if there’s a taker for a 2nd, do so. Willy next. Enough of his childish ways. A top 10 prospect and a second. If not a 1st and a second. Maccelli, 7th rounder, goodbye. Any 3rd or 4th liners that’ll get you a second, do so. Time to take an LTIR contract off someone’s cap for a draft pick or a player we can use. Fire the Coaching Staff. There….fixed!
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First up, move a goalie. Stolarz is the first up, for a first. There are teams on the bubble, that could make a run, with an established goaltender. Second up, Rielly…..just get out already! Time’s up! McMann, next up. The Oil could come calling for all 3, but that better be a defenseman coming back and 2 firsts. If the Oil looks at it properly, a Conference Final means 1st rounder at the end of the round. Next Robertson, if there’s a taker for a 2nd, do so. Willy next. Enough of his childish ways. A top 10 prospect and a second. If not a 1st and a second. Maccelli, 7th rounder, goodbye. Any 3rd or 4th liners that’ll get you a second, do so. Time to take an LTIR contract off someone’s cap for a draft pick or a player we can use. Fire the Coaching Staff. There….fixed!
Absolutely nobody is giving the Leafs a 1st for a goalie who has played 14 games out of 53 with an .880 SV% and a 3.36 GAA with a cap hit of 3.75 X 4 more years. You’d have to be retarded to expect a 1st for that. The only GM retarded enough to give up a 1st for Stolarz is employed by the Leafs and we can’t give ourselves a 1st for him.
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that’s because what fan do, the beleafs in the team they support.
so there is nothing wrong with that.
You just lost faith in this team a long time ago.No, fans don’t have to have retarded blind faith to be fans, they just choose to have blind faith and use it as a excuse for the failures of the franchise. This franchise needs less blind fan boy homers and more people to hold them accountable.
I lost my faith in this team and it was justified. You had blind faith in this team and they burned you again. It’s like you have a kid with a heroin addiction and you keep buying him needles. That analogy explains why there are so many libtard Leafs fans.
no need to shit on the Fans who do have faith in this team because you lost faith in the current Leafs team.
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So, looking at potential trading partners for the Leafs, Detroit seems like the perfect fit to extract draft capital in return for the Leafs veterans.
Top of the list will be OEL. It’s pretty obvious that OEL would love to be on a contender, at worst, a playoff team and Detroit is at worst a playoff team and at best a contender if they make upgrades. OEL probably had some sentimental pull towards Toronto given the legends Salming and Sundin. He may have the same pull to Detroit which had Lidstrom and many other Swedish legends of the 90s.
Detroit has a lot of cap space to fit OEL without salary coming back to the Leafs. But the Leafs could afford to take back Gustafsson at 2 AAV to fill the ice time left by OEL. Detroit has not got the offensive production they had hoped when they signed Gustavsson that OEL has clearly provided for a bad Leafs team on a relatively cheap contract. Gustafsson could be given ice time to rebuild value and traded in the future as he has been a deadline rental many times before.
I could see Detroit wanting not only OEL but also a RHD like Carlo. Detroit is said to be looking for a RHD and Carlo could fit their needs as he would not be used as a top pair D. Again, they have a lot of cap space to make it happen.
The Leafs might be able to get a pair of 1st round picks for OEL and Carlo from Detroit.
Other candidates that could be moved to Detroit would be McMann, Roy and Laughton. I could easily see Detroit paying a 1st or a prospect for any of them for an attempt at a playoff run. The same could be said for Montreal and now Buffalo. I would gladly trade all 3 of them to Detroit, Buffalo and Montreal for a 1st round pick each.
remeber what the last time the Leafs traded a D to Detroit. A D who was ran out town ……
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First up, move a goalie. Stolarz is the first up, for a first. There are teams on the bubble, that could make a run, with an established goaltender. Second up, Rielly…..just get out already! Time’s up! McMann, next up. The Oil could come calling for all 3, but that better be a defenseman coming back and 2 firsts. If the Oil looks at it properly, a Conference Final means 1st rounder at the end of the round. Next Robertson, if there’s a taker for a 2nd, do so. Willy next. Enough of his childish ways. A top 10 prospect and a second. If not a 1st and a second. Maccelli, 7th rounder, goodbye. Any 3rd or 4th liners that’ll get you a second, do so. Time to take an LTIR contract off someone’s cap for a draft pick or a player we can use. Fire the Coaching Staff. There….fixed!
You know Rielly has a NMC. So you are waisting your resource saying he needs to be moved. Even if he’s from out west, I think his wife would have a say on the move.
McMann to be moved would cost at least a minimum 2nd rnd pck and a propect. Perhaps you could squeaze a 1st out the Oilers.
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remeber what the last time the Leafs traded a D to Detroit. A D who was ran out town ……
they won the cup.really who cares, just trade with whoever gives you the best deal.
Leafs are 7 points up on bottom 5 of the League, just bail on this season. they suck
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remeber what the last time the Leafs traded a D to Detroit. A D who was ran out town ……
they won the cup.really who cares, just trade with whoever gives you the best deal.
Leafs are 7 points up on bottom 5 of the League, just bail on this season. they suck
Oh I was just saying if that trade did occur, Detroit could do a repeat when they got Murphy.
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no need to shit on the Fans who do have faith in this team because you lost faith in the current Leafs team.
This has nothing to do with him losing faith in the current team, and everything to do with the fact that he has an utterly shitty life, likely no friends, a trash job, and nothing better to do than fight with strangers online.
100%, his ex fucked his brother, or dad back in 2008 and he’s never recovered.
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So the Leafs have placed Joshua and Tanev on to the LTIR. That’s 7M extra in potential cap space.
WE’RE BUYERS, BABY!!!!!
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So the Leafs have placed Joshua and Tanev on to the LTIR. That’s 7M extra in potential cap space.
WE’RE BUYERS, BABY!!!!!
To bad for the Leafs the NHL change the salary retention policy other wise the Leafs could of gotten some extra picks with that cap space.
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To bad for the Leafs the NHL change the salary retention policy other wise the Leafs could of gotten some extra picks with that cap space.
Oh, really? What changes were made?
Word was Joshua would be skating before the Olympic break, so what’s the benefit for the Leafs to put him on LTIR? Opens up a roster spot or something?
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So the Leafs have placed Joshua and Tanev on to the LTIR. That’s 7M extra in potential cap space.
Cap space for what?
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In hindsight, eliminating the director of sports science and performance role at MLSE seems to have backfired considering all the injuries that have plagued this season.
But, hey, MLSE removed a few hundred K from the bottom line, shareholders must be happy!!!
Literally, the Leafs should have far and away the best facilities, doctors, and medical staff in the entire league. In a salary cap league, they should be spending TONS of money to make the team attractive to players and to give the team an edge on preventing and treating injuries. Strangely, by contract, the Blue Jays seem to be on the top end of the league when it comes to things like that.
Why can’t the Leafs have nice things?!?
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Cap space for what?
They have no assets to trade to acquire anyone of use. Plus you can no longer be above the cap in the playoffs….like the panthers have been for the past two years.they can take teams bad contract to get a better return with more cap space
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Cap space for what?
They have no assets to trade to acquire anyone of use. Plus you can no longer be above the cap in the playoffs….like the panthers have been for the past two years.they can take teams bad contract to get a better return with more cap space
Bingo!
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In hindsight, eliminating the director of sports science and performance role at MLSE seems to have backfired considering all the injuries that have plagued this season.
But, hey, MLSE removed a few hundred K from the bottom line, shareholders must be happy!!!
Literally, the Leafs should have far and away the best facilities, doctors, and medical staff in the entire league. In a salary cap league, they should be spending TONS of money to make the team attractive to players and to give the team an edge on preventing and treating injuries. Strangely, by contract, the Blue Jays seem to be on the top end of the league when it comes to things like that.
Why can’t the Leafs have nice things?!?
I just saw that article.
I didnt think I would miss the Shanny/Dubas era.. we didnt know how good we had it.
On that note, Dubas has turned the pens around this season.so leafy
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I just saw that article.
I didnt think I would miss the Shanny/Dubas era.. we didnt know how good we had it.
On that note, Dubas has turned the pens around this season.so leafy
In hindsight, Dubas was adequate. But I think the entire Shanny era was an unequivocal failure. The way Marner was handled from the start was a disaster, they gave the kid (or his dad) absolute power and got burned in the end.
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no need to shit on the Fans who do have faith in this team because you lost faith in the current Leafs team.
There definitely is a need for it. Fans need to keep this franchise accountable. Also, a lot of people here insulted me for telling them the truth. And now I’m right. So they can suck it, deep, long and hard.
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There definitely is a need for it. Fans need to keep this franchise accountable. Also, a lot of people here insulted me for telling them the truth. And now I’m right. So they can suck it, deep, long and hard.[/quote]
You werent telling the truth….you would just whine and complain about people justifiably dumping on marner
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Oh I was just saying if that trade did occur, Detroit could do a repeat when they got Murphy.
OEL is a good player but he isn’t Larry Murphy and this Detroit team isn’t that 90s Detroit team. Not even close.
Also, who gives a shit? As long as the Leafs get draft capital and are way out of the contender picture, any trade with any team is welcome as long as it improves the future of this team. Except Boston. Don’t bother with Boston. Will just end up being another loss for the Leafs.
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no need to shit on the Fans who do have faith in this team because you lost faith in the current Leafs team.
This has nothing to do with him losing faith in the current team, and everything to do with the fact that he has an utterly shitty life, likely no friends, a trash job, and nothing better to do than fight with strangers online.
100%, his ex fucked his brother, or dad back in 2008 and he’s never recovered.
I know you so desperately want even one of these abject lies to be true so that you look like less of a total retard but the reality is you were wrong and I was right. Cope. Seethe. Repeat.
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I know you so desperately want even one of this lies to be true so that you look like less of a total retard but the reality is you were wrong and I was right. Cope. Seethe. Repeat.
Pro tip: If you’re going to call someone a retard, don’t make a retarded mistake in said post. You fat fuck retard.
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In hindsight, eliminating the director of sports science and performance role at MLSE seems to have backfired considering all the injuries that have plagued this season.
But, hey, MLSE removed a few hundred K from the bottom line, shareholders must be happy!!!
Literally, the Leafs should have far and away the best facilities, doctors, and medical staff in the entire league. In a salary cap league, they should be spending TONS of money to make the team attractive to players and to give the team an edge on preventing and treating injuries. Strangely, by contract, the Blue Jays seem to be on the top end of the league when it comes to things like that.
Why can’t the Leafs have nice things?!?
The Leafs could have all of those things and it still wouldn’t matter if the retard GM is signing over the hill, broken down players like Tanev. Or Stolarz. Or any other guys they brought in way past their expiration date. It would be like building a structure with rusted steel beams and expecting it to hold up the test of time.
The real problem with the Leafs isn’t the medical staff. It’s the fact that they absolutely suck donkey cock at drafting and developing players. When great teams get hit by injuries, they have a next man up attitude. You think Tampa Bay, Vegas, Colorado or Florida haven’t had some injuries? Of course they have. The difference is they have depth and a system that works when the next guy up is plugged into the roster.
The Leafs, because they’re built by a retard, live and die on the performance of a couple key players. If they are hurt, playing poorly or get shut down, the rest of the team falls apart.
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I’m a fat fuck retard.
I can change posts too. Might be difficult for a retard like yourself but it’s actually very simple.
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so leafy
In hindsight, Dubas was adequate. But I think the entire Shanny era was an unequivocal failure. The way Marner was handled from the start was a disaster, they gave the kid (or his dad) absolute power and got burned in the end.[/quote]
Shanny’s first 5 years were pretty good. I did make some big positive changes for the leafs and how they were viewed around league and they were able to sign the biggest FA in sport at that time. The team looked like a genuine cup contender.
But Dubas was horrible at negotiating contracts and gave in to Matthews and marner who didnt earn or deserve those contracts at the time. Then for the final 5 years, Shanny refused to budge on the core 3. One of Marner or Nylander needed to be moved out for another type of star player.
But they werent.
Dubas giving whiny marner a NTC/NMC clause was another big mistake.
Tre almost changed the leafs franchise had marner accepted a trade to the Canes for Rantanen…that would have great improved the team. But it didnt happen and Tre made the ultimate mistake of trading two 1st round picks and quality prospects for a 3rd liner and 4th dman.
The 2026 1st rounder should never have been in play.
The leafs have Captain who doesnt seem to care that much
So many injuries and goalies who are not repeating the level of success they had last year (it short spurts they have)
A team that looks disorganized and continues to no show in games (am ongoing issue for the pat 6 years)
Now we have a coach that is trying to force a system on players who cant play it and a GM who simply isnt up for the task of making this team successful.
The leafs analytics were in a downward spiral for years but everything aligned for them last year to help win them the Atlantic.
That wasnt going to happen every year, as we have seen this year, injuries caught up to them
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In hindsight, Dubas was adequate. But I think the entire Shanny era was an unequivocal failure. The way Marner was handled from the start was a disaster, they gave the kid (or his dad) absolute power and got burned in the end.
Wrong again retard. They overpaid Tavares, made him the 2nd highest paid player in the entire NHL and he did nothing for this franchise in the playoffs. Once they overpaid Tavares, they overpaid everybody else after that. They treated Tavares, despite being the absolute worst playoff performer of all the “core” players, like a pajama God and retards like you scapegoated Marner into leaving. Small retarded minds like yours could only spew and repeat what the media, which is owned by the team, created as a narrative of blame on one player whom they were trying to play hardball with after bending over and taking it in the ass financially from Tavares, Nylander and Matthews. Reality has come full circle and now proven that without Marner, Nylander and Matthews are clearly incapable of carrying this team to any kind of success, in fact, the opposite happened, total collapse and failure followed.
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To bad for the Leafs the NHL change the salary retention policy other wise the Leafs could of gotten some extra picks with that cap space.
Oh, really? What changes were made?
Word was Joshua would be skating before the Olympic break, so what’s the benefit for the Leafs to put him on LTIR? Opens up a roster spot or something?
if you do a double retention, then is has to be done 2 or 3 month in advance err something like that.
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I’m a fat fuck retard.
I can change posts too. Might be difficult for a retard like yourself but it’s actually very simple.
Bwahahahaha, you actually went back and edited your dumb fuck post to pretend like you didn’t fuck up. Don’t worry. I know that you know that you fucked up.
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I’m actually going back to edit history like a dumb fuck to pretend like I didn’t fuck up. Don’t worry. I know I fucked up but enjoy being retarded.
We know.
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I’m actually going back to edit history like a dumb fuck to pretend like I didn’t fuck up. Don’t worry. I know I fucked up but enjoy being retarded.
We know.
Doubling down when you KNOW with absolute certainty that you fucked up your post. Fucking hilarious.
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The Leafs could have all of those things and it still wouldn’t matter if the retard GM is signing over the hill, broken down players like Tanev. Or Stolarz. Or any other guys they brought in way past their expiration date. It would be like building a structure with rusted steel beams and expecting it to hold up the test of time.
The real problem with the Leafs isn’t the medical staff. It’s the fact that they absolutely suck donkey cock at drafting and developing players. When great teams get hit by injuries, they have a next man up attitude. You think Tampa Bay, Vegas, Colorado or Florida haven’t had some injuries? Of course they have. The difference is they have depth and a system that works when the next guy up is plugged into the roster.
The Leafs, because they’re built by a retard, live and die on the performance of a couple key players. If they are hurt, playing poorly or get shut down, the rest of the team falls apart.[/quote]
How many drafted players do the above teams have on their current roster that they drafted? Florida 7 maybe, 2 or 3 are real impact players. Vegas 3? They were gifted a good team and extra picks and traded for everyone. All the teams above have traded away many of their first rounders over the years for high impact players. The leafs simply havent been able to do that and when it does occur, they rarely keep the player or they disappear to injuries.
The leafs problem is they paid marner and matthews simply too much in the beginning which has screwed them for years. Now they put money into other players who simply arent good either. Its poor cap allocation and asset management.
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As I have said for many years, you cannot be “all in” every single year for 5- 7 consecutive years (unless you have success, which the leafs never did). You need a retool year to draft and fill the cupboards with prospects and picks. The leafs never did that…they wasted draft capital and assets yearly.
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Doubling down when you KNOW with absolute certainty that you fucked up your post. Fucking hilarious.
I know you so badly want to divert the discussion away from how much this team, that you retardedly beLeafed in, has proved you wrong yet again. That is fucking hilarious indeed.
Oh wait, that’s not how you spell believe! Quick, change the topic!
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Doubling down when you KNOW with absolute certainty that you fucked up your post. Fucking hilarious.
I know you so badly want to divert the discussion away from how much this team, that you retardedly beLeafed in, has proved you wrong yet again. That is fucking hilarious indeed.
Oh wait, that’s not how you spell believe! Quick, change the topic!
Meh. Team could have won the Cup last year if not for a run goalie. Team would be a lot better this year if not for injuries.
Hockey is entertainment. I enjoy watching this team play when they actually compete. If they suck, who cares. I’ll watch the Raps and Jays. I’m not the one who’s spent 20 years raging at the way things have gone. Go outside and touch grass.
The important thing is you fucked up that post and everybody knows it.
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How many drafted players do the above teams have on their current roster that they drafted? Florida 7 maybe, 2 or 3 are real impact players. Vegas 3? They were gifted a good team and extra picks and traded for everyone. All the teams above have traded away many of their first rounders over the years for high impact players. The leafs simply havent been able to do that and when it does occur, they rarely keep the player or they disappear to injuries.
The leafs problem is they paid marner and matthews simply too much in the beginning which has screwed them for years. Now they put money into other players who simply arent good either. Its poor cap allocation and asset management.
Vegas and florida had depth because they were greatly over the cap when they won.Florida and Vegas never let their draft capital go to waste like the Leafs did. They also drafted high quality players that had value to trade unlike the Leafs who draft pylons in the non-lottery 1st round and trade them for pennies on the dollar years down the road. When Florida or Vegas traded draft capital or young players, they got fair value in return and retained their acquisitions. Those contenders and champions won more trades than they lost. They also didn’t lose assets for nothing or for less than they were worth. Unlike the retarded Leafs, Colorado welcomed Kadri as a depth player and won a Cup. The Leafs, with brainwashed retards like you in full support, threw away their complimentary players. The overpayments started after Tavares. They set the new bar that high. They did it to themselves. Nothing Florida, Tampa Bay or Vegas did was against the rules despite your bitch ass attempt to pretend they cheated somehow. They learned the CBA and used it to their advantage. The Leafs just weren’t good enough to figure it out or make use of it.
The Leafs have a shit franchise. The only hope this franchise has at on-ice success is to draft itself into success. Build a foundation of players that creates a team good enough (and under team control) that players don’t care about the garbage weather, the absurd taxes, dysfunctional management, the obsessive media and the rabidly retarded fans who will dox you or carjack you.
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Meh. Team could have won the Cup last year if not for a run goalie. Team would be a lot better this year if not for injuries.
Hockey is entertainment. I enjoy watching this team play when they actually compete. If they suck, who cares. I’ll watch the Raps and Jays. I’m not the one who’s spent 20 years raging at the way things have gone. Go outside and touch grass.
The important thing is you fucked up that post and everybody knows it.
Woll was better than Stolarz, Florida would have ripped him to shreds knowing all his weaknesses (anything 2 feet off the ice). Look at him this year; garbage and injured. That had nothing to do with losing the series. Tavares, Nylander, Rielly and Carlo lost the series. Offensively disappeared after Game 3 and got defensively destroyed the entire series, constantly giving the Panthers 2nd and 3rd line free, easy goals.
If your aunt had balls she would be your uncle. Reality is, the Leafs are the 3rd oldest team in the NHL. Old teams get injured more often. They signed Tanev to a Robidas / Muzzin contract when he was over 35. That’s retarded management. It was literally a matter of time before he got hurt. Matthews was hurt last year. Marner still had 103 points and the Leafs still won the division.
Hockey is entertainment and the Leafs haven’t been entertaining in 58 years because retards like you shrug their shoulders and let them get away with it. Go ahead, watch the Jays lose to the Dodgers again, same owners, same reaction to losing. Apathy.
You can’t admit it because you’re too much of a fucking retard but the important thing here is the Leafs fucked up when they signed Tavares then let Marner go and everybody knows it.
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Mangiapane, Emberson, a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann
Would you do this trade?
Nope and I know Mangiapane personally.
Leafs need 1st round picks, not more projects.
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Mangiapane, Emberson, a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann
Would you do this trade?
for a UFA, anything in that realm should be fine.
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Mangiapane, Emberson, a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann
Would you do this trade?
Nope and I know Mangiapane personally.
Leafs need 1st round picks, not more projects.
a 2nd and a prospect is the minimum ask for McMann
Mangiapane is a cap dump and Emberson is the payment to take on that contract.The Leafs can do 1 yr with Mangiapane or buy him out, send him to the Marlies
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You loozzerrs! We know Andrew and Mitch personally! He signed an autograph for IG once at an A&W. LMFAO! So we know what is what. LMFAO. And NO, this is not a cry for attention cause this forum only has like 4 people who post now. We are super important and very unique. Pay attention to me and UG or else we will keep posting essays page after page until someone lowers themselves and engages us.
Do it now!! Do it for MITCH MMMAAAARRRRNNNNEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTARDO.
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a 2nd and a prospect is the minimum ask for McMann
Mangiapane is a cap dump and Emberson is the payment to take on that contract.The Leafs can do 1 yr with Mangiapane or buy him out, send him to the Marlies
Laughton cost the Leafs a 1st and a prospect. McMann is a big body, skates fast and can score 20. He’s worth a 1st to a desperate playoff team.
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Leafs have just finished a historically bad home stretch and now they go on the road (where they suck) for a bunch of games against a bunch of teams that they should easily beat. The media and most loyal followers have given up on them. So you know what the Leafs are going to do? Go on a heater. Because Leafs.
Hopefully Rielly starts looking for real estate in Seattle and find his place in the pride parade because this is exactly where they should dump his ass. Hopefully after this game. Or even before. Won’t matter.
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They never start on time. Babcock was bang on about that in retrospect.
They knew he’d take their phone to check out the pics if they started the game half assed
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They never start on time. Babcock was bang on about that in retrospect.
They knew he’d take their phone to check out the pics if they started the game half assed
LOL. He was a dick. But we would have won two Cups, bare minimum, if we had kept him and Lou.
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They never start on time. Babcock was bang on about that in retrospect.
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LOL. He was a dick. But we would have won two Cups, bare minimum, if we had kept him and Lou.
Oh fuck I like the idea just because he tried to teach that whiny assed Marner what work ethic was by making him write out a list gauging his teammates 😉
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late power kill for the Leafs ….
it was killed
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late power kill for the Leafs ….
it was killed again . .
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29 games left. 19 on the road. 10 vs the Atlantic. 18 vs the East.
This team is fucked. Sell hard.
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I sincerely mean it, time to blow this roster up and build it up in another way. I’ll always cheer for them to win every game, I’m a leafs fan, but this current team is a mess, I can say it.
Been saying it for a long time.
Problem is, being bottom 5 bad is going to be tough and risks the Bruins getting 6th overall. Plus Minten.
They need to find a way to dump all the expiring contracts for maximum value but still finish high enough to not gift the Bruins a top prospect.
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Only if Tessa wants to move.
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Mangiapane, Emberson, a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann
Would you do this trade?
Why would the other team give up that much for mcmann even if the leafs are taking on a bad contract?
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Honestly, just because the leafs gave up a 1st + for laughton and a 1st plus a great prospect for Carlo doesnt mean other teams are dumb enough to give 1st rounders + for any player outside of Matthews, JT, Willie, woll, Knies, Mcabb etc…which they wont be selling. I cant see any player the leafs will be trading fetching a 1st unfortunately, this is Tre we are talking about. Not a very good GM at trading.
I hope Im wrong and by some miracle they get a 1st for OEL or anyone….but its the leafs, its Tre….I dont have high hopes for either to clean up at the deadline.I would keep 3 goalies for now, we honestly dont know who to rely on long term at this point.
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I sincerely mean it, time to blow this roster up and build it up in another way. I’ll always cheer for them to win every game, I’m a leafs fan, but this current team is a mess, I can say it.
This was the year to retool.
They should not have giving up the 2026 1st first last year at TDL.
This was always going to be a transition year, somehow Tre didnt see that coming (I get we’ve had a lot of injuries) but this was an unknown year with all the changes that were going to happen.I cant stress enough, even though Ive said it for years. You cant go “all in” year after year without having any success. You just cant.
Looks like once again, the leafs will be helping to make the Bruins a quality team.They never learn.
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Mangiapane, Emberson, a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann
Would you do this trade?
Why would the other team give up that much for mcmann even if the leafs are taking on a bad contract?
at a minimum a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann. I’d prefer a 1st, but the Oiler have one in 2027.
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at a minimum a prospect and 2026 2nd rnd pick for McMann. I’d prefer a 1st, but the Oiler have one in 2027.
To take on Mangiapane contract/salary dump, Emberson is the payment/compensation for that or draft pick.[/quote]Ideally that would be great.
I just dont think you get anything higher than a late 2nd/early 3rd and b/c prospect for McMann.
The leafs havent been good at winning trades lately.In a somewhat perfect world, you shut down matthews and nylander for most of the rest of the season. Sell what you can and play ahl’ers and hope to get into the top 5 of draft….and not fall out during the lottery ball show. Or finish in top 10 draft and fall into the top 5. Leafs need some luck. Which has never been on the leafs side.
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You werent telling the truth….you would just whine and complain about people justifiably dumping on marner
No, it definitely was the truth, I was definitely right and you were definitely wrong.
Unjustified dumping on Marner. The proof is in the results and destroyed your libtard world view. 103 points with Matthews injured, 1st in the division, contributed to 3 GWGs vs. Florida, the eventual Cup champions. Everything you retards said he couldn’t or wouldn’t do, he did. Then you blamed him for everything, while Nylander, Rielly, Carlo and then Tavares got a free pass because of his pajamas.
And now the team is so bad even the beLeafers can see this team absolutely sucks. Maccelli, Roy, Joshua, Tavares can’t replace him. They suck defensively. Tavares is -16. Maccelli -12. Joshua -2 and injured. Roy +1. That’s the part you retards don’t understand is how much Marner helped defensively and how much he carried the puck so that Matthews didn’t have to. Now, the more Matthews has to carry the puck, the worse he plays. Matthews has to keep Domi defensively positive, who is also a team worst -17. These are the feeble attempts to replace Marner.
You retards were so busy worried about saving money that you destroyed this team’s ability to contend.
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The team would still be out of playoff spot with Marner in the line up.
Anyone who thinks otherwise, is just foolish.Anyone who thinks the Leafs would not be in the playoffs with Marner is retarded.
They won the division last year. He had 103 points. Just his PP contributions alone would have propelled the Leafs into the playoffs. He literally proved it last year. And his defensive game would prevent a lot of goals.
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The team would still be out of playoff spot with Marner in the line up.
Anyone who thinks otherwise, is just foolish.Anyone who thinks the Leafs would not be in the playoffs with Marner is retarded.
They won the division last year. He had 103 points. Just his PP contributions alone would have propelled the Leafs into the playoffs. He literally proved it last year. And his defensive game would prevent a lot of goals.
ya so, Winnipeg won the Predent Strophy last year and look where they are now.
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From 2016-2017 up to last year, the Leafs PP has been an average of 24.2%. This year, it’s 17.6%. That’s approximately a difference of 7 goals per 100 opportunities which would be an extra 9 PP goals thus far, could be as many as 18-20 by the end of the season. The difference? No Marner and multiple games that could have been decided by the extra 9+ PP goals. Could easily be an extra 10 points in the standings which would put them at 67 points and tied for 3rd in the division with Buffalo. The #1 PP player for the Leafs has been Nylander and Matthews tied with 9 PP points. Marner as 16 PP points. And he’s not even being used to his full PP potential. Last year Marner had 33 PP points, 70 more at 5v5. Huge drop off that hurt the team that they could not replace.
Leafs GAA from 2016-2017 up to last year was an average of 2.92. Now it’s up to 3.46. That extra half a goal game average is the defensive difference that losing a Selke nominated, two-way player has on the team.
Between the 33 PP points contributions, the potential for 70 5v5 points, his 5v5 defensive play, all combined, would have been better than -17 Domi, -16 Tavares, -12 Maccelli. Those guys easily lost the Leafs 10 points with their defensive ineptitude and those are the guys attempting to replace Marner’s 5v5 ice time and PP time.
This team failed miserably to replace Marner. Losing him destroyed this team’s ability to contend.
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ya so, Winnipeg won the Predent Strophy last year and look where they are now.
Hellebuyck won the President’s Trophy last year. He got hurt this year, the team fell off a cliff without him and they can’t recover because the hole was too big.
Matthews got hurt last year, Marner still had 103 points and won the division with Matthews being either out of the lineup or playing like shit half the time. Matthews went from 50-60 goals, 100 points now to UNDER a point per game.
What the retards did not realize is that spending money on Marner helps keep Matthews value where it belongs. So the Leafs thought they were saving money by losing Marner but they actually lost value in Matthews, which is retarded.
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What a fucking joke. Would have loved to have seen this team in the playoffs. They are definitely not the same team as last year, but with all the injuries to key players it looks like chances are getting slim.
As for Bitch Marner. Vegas has 1 more regulation win than the Leafs, they sucked when Eichel went down (apparently Mitch could not pick up the slack). Mitch has been mostly on the second line and has spent time on the 3rd line. Selke dude because he is a master of the PK? He is the 5th forward in PK TOI and there are 3 more FW within 6 seconds of him. So no he is not a PK god as some suggested and used as an argument to claim he was the reason he was the Leaf’s best forward.
Perhaps he will perform better with Vegas in the playoffs as a 2nd or 3rd line forward but for now he has proved to be nothing more than a regular season star, who is more of a PP specialist than a PK star.
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When I looked at the schedule, before the season, I looked and said to myself; Self, with all of those home games to start the year, I hope they don’t sh!t the bed, because if they fall behind and have to catch up on the road, it won’t end well. Self, also thought, injuries could also be the start of a death spiral, with a veteran team and more fringe players from losing teams. It’s a bad road to go down. Fast-forward to now and sure enough, it happened. A total sh!t show. Why Maccelli? Too small, had one decent season, so let’s take him. Why? Just a dumb move. Treliving is showing why he was canned in Calgary. Just a total waste of one year. Time to get the neon sign ready for Robidas Island.
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Anyone who thinks the Leafs would not be in the playoffs with Marner is retarded.
They won the division last year. He had 103 points. Just his PP contributions alone would have propelled the Leafs into the playoffs. He literally proved it last year. And his defensive game would prevent a lot of goals.[/quote]
AGAIN…everything well perfectly for the leafs to win the division last year.
The opposite has happened this year.
The players who have replaced marner, combined have more point than he does so far this year. He probably gives the leafs 1 …maybe 2 more wins…maybe. Cause they would have less depth.They would still be out of the playoffs.
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I remember when Minten was trade many didnt mind it cause he was only going to be a 4th/3rd liner.
Well.
So far, he’s played a couple of games on the top line for boston.
Has 16pts in 15 games.Damn
Yep as much as we are all experts….. no one ever truly knows.
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What a fucking joke. Would have loved to have seen this team in the playoffs. They are definitely not the same team as last year, but with all the injuries to key players it looks like chances are getting slim.
Not the same team because they lost a 100 point, Selke candidate and replaced him with a pile of dog shit. Don’t bitch about the injuries, there are a lot of teams with games lost due to injury who are still in the playoffs.
https://nhlinjuryviz.blogspot.com/2025/10/202526-team-injury-breakdowns.html
There’s the evidence dipshit. Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. They still lead their division. Why? Because Marner, who doesn’t get injured, filled in at center to help the cause. Florida, Tampa Bay and Montreal are also in the Leafs division and have had more injuries than the Leafs. Tampa Bay is still #1 in the Atlantic, Florida is fighting for a playoff spot and Montreal is in the playoffs too. Dallas, Buffalo and Carolina are comparable to injuries and are all still in the playoffs.
The Leafs had injuries last year to Matthews, Woll and Stolarz. Marner carried the team with 103 points to 1st in the division. Why can’t the Leafs do it again this year? Oh right, because they’re a weak, bitch ass team who let Marner go and replaced him with a bunch of defensively worthless pylons.
As for Bitch Marner. Vegas has 1 more regulation win than the Leafs, they sucked when Eichel went down (apparently Mitch could not pick up the slack). Mitch has been mostly on the second line and has spent time on the 3rd line. Selke dude because he is a master of the PK? He is the 5th forward in PK TOI and there are 3 more FW within 6 seconds of him. So no he is not a PK god as some suggested and used as an argument to claim he was the reason he was the Leaf’s best forward.
As I explained to you retard, Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. Marner and the Knights beat the Leafs twice. They lead their division. Marner is 2nd on the team in points. He would be #1 on the Leafs in points, assists and PP points. Pretty sure Matthews would be closer to a 50-60 goal pace too rather than his worst season since 2018.
Oh wow, Marner has power play points? Not like the Leafs need 16 extra PP points. Nah, they have Nylander and Matthews at 9 PP each to lead the PP genius Steve Sullivan / Marc Savard PP extravaganza.
Marner is 3rd in total PK time among forwards dipshit. He’s a Selke candidate because he doesn’t stand in the middle of the ice like a pylon while Montour blasts past him like Tavares did last night. What is Tavares’ defensive record? Oh right, -16 this year. Great. 4 million bucks though. So happy we saved a bunch of cap space and spent it on dog shit players to miss the playoffs with.
Perhaps he will perform better with Vegas in the playoffs as a 2nd or 3rd line forward but for now he has proved to be nothing more than a regular season star, who is more of a PP specialist than a PK star.
Perhaps Vegas isn’t retarded like the Leafs and knows how to build a team. Perhaps Vegas is smart enough to have a D-core and a forward group that knows how to play defense, unlike the Leafs where they rely on the 1st line to win every game and if they don’t, we run them out of town, replace them with 3rd liners who are -15 and miss the playoffs.
If Marner was “nothing more than a regular season star” I wonder what that says about Nylander, Tavares and Matthews who all have less career playoff points than Marner. Marner is a PP specialist? Damn, wish we had one of those instead of one of the worst PPs in the NHL. But I’m sure Steve Sullivan will fix it. Maybe having a good PP helps you win hockey games. But nah, in your retarded world, you don’t need 100+ points, PP points or players who know how to play defense. Much better to have one-dimensional, non-power player performers to miss the playoffs like Maccelli, Domi, Nylander and Tavares.
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AGAIN…everything well perfectly for the leafs to win the division last year.
The opposite has happened this year.
The players who have replaced marner, combined have more point than he does so far this year. He probably gives the leafs 1 …maybe 2 more wins…maybe. Cause they would have less depth.They would still be out of the playoffs.
You are too brain dead and narrow minded to see reality.Wrong. Matthews, Woll and Stolarz were injured last year. Not everything went perfect. Marner carried the team with 103 points and 33 power play points while Matthews was injured / useless.
These are verified facts that only a complete and total retard would deny.
The players who replaced Marner are -17, -16, -15. What part of that can’t your retarded brain understand? The points they score are irrelevant when they give up more goals than they create. This is why they lose games; they can’t defend. Marner could defend. His line shutdown other top lines, like Florida’s top line, regularly. The Leafs also suck donkey dick on the PP. I literally proved it to you. The PP% dropped 7%. The only difference is Marner isn’t on the PP. Knies and Maccelli have failed miserably to replace his PP production. Marner has 16 PP points this year, he had 33 last year. Nylander and Matthews only have 9 PP points each to LEAD the team. The drop in PP production has easily cost them 10 points in the standings.
They would 100% be in the playoffs, 2nd or 3rd in the division, easily.
Brain dead and narrow minded is exactly what you are. All the evidence could fuck you directly up the ass and you would still not believe it.
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Wright and Montour for 88
Byfield Clarke and 1st for 34
Isaac Howard for McMannPlan a parade 💙
That package would be a trash return for Nylander. Montour is useless to the Leafs, he’s a right handed Rielly. Wright is an okay prospect but definitely overrated. The Leafs could easily get a 1st, a top prospect and a young roster player. That is what they should be targeting.
Byfield and Clarke appear to be 2nd line / 2nd pair players which is a decent return but not enough to get Matthews who is best goal scorer not named Ovechkin the past 5 or so years. Would rather target two 1st round picks, a top prospect and a young roster player. I think Matthews would enjoy playing in California but I’d rather move him to San Jose, they could probably afford to give us more draft capital and young prospects.
McMann should get a 1st, not another small, project prospect like Robertson / Cowan.
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Marner 5th in average PK time. Easy for total icetime to be higher when you avoid contact at all costs and never got hurt.
No matter how you spin it or what additional arguments you make. Vegas has 1 more regulation win than the Leafs at this time.
Speaking of players that avoid contact at all costs, how did Nylander get hurt? You catch the tip of his cock with your teeth the last time you were blowing him?
Karlsson has played 14 games retard so you’re going to use his average PK time per game? Keep avoiding all the facts; Vegas is the most injured team in the NHL. They’ve had AHLers in their net half the season. You bitch about “injuries” the Leafs have had and I literally proved you to be retarded when I showed you how Vegas, Tampa Bay, Montreal are all in the playoffs while Dallas, Carolina and Buffalo have similar injuries to the Leafs and they’re all in the playoffs too. Florida (still in the wild card picture) has more injuries and they’re not folding like the Leafs have this past week.
No matter how your retarded homer mind wants to bend and twist, the Leafs went from 1st in the division, taking Florida to Game 7 to almost a lottery team because they ran Marner out of town. Retards like you deserve it. And you’ll still never admit it or learn your lesson.
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Marner 5th in average PK time. Easy for total icetime to be higher when you avoid contact at all costs and never got hurt.
No matter how you spin it or what additional arguments you make. Vegas has 1 more regulation win than the Leafs at this time.
Speaking of players that avoid contact at all costs, how did Nylander get hurt? You catch the tip of his cock with your teeth the last time you were blowing him?
Karlsson has played 14 games retard so you’re going to use his average PK time per game? Keep avoiding all the facts; Vegas is the most injured team in the NHL. They’ve had AHLers in their net half the season. You bitch about “injuries” the Leafs have had and I literally proved you to be retarded when I showed you how Vegas, Tampa Bay, Montreal are all in the playoffs while Dallas, Carolina and Buffalo have similar injuries to the Leafs and they’re all in the playoffs too. Florida (still in the wild card picture) has more injuries and they’re not folding like the Leafs have this past week.
No matter how your retarded homer mind wants to bend and twist, the Leafs went from 1st in the division, taking Florida to Game 7 to almost a lottery team because they ran Marner out of town. Retards like you deserve it. And you’ll still never admit it or learn your lesson.
You seem to know everything…. Question for you. As of right now do Vegas have 25 regular season wins and Leafs 24? Vegas 1-4-2 without Eichel so he appears to be the key to Vegas and not your Bitch boy. Anyway can you answer my question directly or does the board have to suffer through another multi paragraph post from you spewing verbal diarrhea?
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You seem to know everything…. Question for you. As of right now do Vegas have 25 regular season wins and Leafs 24? Vegas 1-4-2 without Eichel so he appears to be the key to Vegas and not your Bitch boy. Anyway can you answer my question directly or does the board have to suffer through another multi paragraph post from you spewing verbal diarrhea?
And you seem to know absolutely fucking nothing. Moreover, you seem to absolutely ignore every detail and fact that is provided to prove you wrong.
As of right now, the Leafs are dead last in their division. Vegas is 1st in their division. Vegas beat the Leafs twice. Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. Adin Hill has played 10 games, the majority of the games have been played by low quality goalies. Just imagine for a second if Woll only played 10 games and Primeau or Artur Akhtyamov had to play 20 games each, where this dog shit team would be. Even with Hildeby playing 19 games, they lost 10 of them.
I find it absolutely fucking hilarious that your giant sample size of games is 7. 7 games is enough for you to determine that Vegas is shit without Eichel and that Marner is a failure to replace him at a position he’s never played regularly at the NHL level. That’s funny because the Leafs have played 54 games without Marner and with dog shit replacements. What have been the results? The Leafs went from 1st in the division to dead last. You know what else Marner did? He played 81 games for the Leafs last year with Matthews missing 15 games and playing like shit for another 30 because he was “playing injured”. And yet the results? 102 points, 1st in the division, 33 PP points (24% PP), 69 5v5 points and contributed to 3 GWGs pushing the Cup Champion Panthers to Game 7. The facts could literally fuck you up the ass and you still wouldn’t realize the truth.
I know the last thing you want is multiple paragraphs that prove exactly how retarded you really are which is exactly why I’m going to keep giving it to you. Maybe it will sink in one day. But I doubt it as your blue and white retardation will persist. How’s Steve Sullivan doing by the way? Is that genius going to turn this 17% PP into the deadly weapon it was the last 8 years or does he need an elite PP player like Marner to make that happen?
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I see the UG machine was up to it usuall antics.
How do you keep a player that doesn’t want to be on the team?That’s like reading the final chapter of a book and wondering why it ended that way.
Marner did not want to leave this team or Toronto. The franchise, the management, the media that owns the team and the most retarded among the fan base (along with some disgusting criminals) pushed him to leave.
As I’ve said 100 times before, Tavares gets treated like a king despite being the worst, by far, playoff performer among the core players. Why? Because of good pajama PR. He fucked the Leafs in the ass on his 1st contract, provided insufficient value for that cap hit and does anybody care? Nope. Leafs won the Cup by saving all that money, didn’t they? Oh, they didn’t. Damn.
The next guy to “doesn’t want to be on the team” will be Matthews. He explicitly said, he would only stay in TO if this team didn’t fall off a cliff. Well, the cliff is way behind the team now and they’re heading for a splat.
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I see the UG machine was up to it usuall antics.
How do you keep a player that doesn’t want to be on the team?That’s like reading the final chapter of a book and wondering why it ended that way.
Marner did not want to leave this team or Toronto. The franchise, the management, the media that owns the team and the most retarded among the fan base (along with some disgusting criminals) pushed him to leave.
As I’ve said 100 times before, Tavares gets treated like a king despite being the worst, by far, playoff performer among the core players. Why? Because of good pajama PR. He fucked the Leafs in the ass on his 1st contract, provided insufficient value for that cap hit and does anybody care? Nope. Leafs won the Cup by saving all that money, didn’t they? Oh, they didn’t. Damn.
The next guy to “doesn’t want to be on the team” will be Matthews. He explicitly said, he would only stay in TO if this team didn’t fall off a cliff. Well, the cliff is way behind the team now and they’re heading for a splat.
Horse Hockey. If he did he would resigned when Nylander did.
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You seem to know everything…. Question for you. As of right now do Vegas have 25 regular season wins and Leafs 24? Vegas 1-4-2 without Eichel so he appears to be the key to Vegas and not your Bitch boy. Anyway can you answer my question directly or does the board have to suffer through another multi paragraph post from you spewing verbal diarrhea?
And you seem to know absolutely fucking nothing. Moreover, you seem to absolutely ignore every detail and fact that is provided to prove you wrong.
As of right now, the Leafs are dead last in their division. Vegas is 1st in their division. Vegas beat the Leafs twice. Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. Adin Hill has played 10 games, the majority of the games have been played by low quality goalies. Just imagine for a second if Woll only played 10 games and Primeau or Artur Akhtyamov had to play 20 games each, where this dog shit team would be. Even with Hildeby playing 19 games, they lost 10 of them.
I find it absolutely fucking hilarious that your giant sample size of games is 7. 7 games is enough for you to determine that Vegas is shit without Eichel and that Marner is a failure to replace him at a position he’s never played regularly at the NHL level. That’s funny because the Leafs have played 54 games without Marner and with dog shit replacements. What have been the results? The Leafs went from 1st in the division to dead last. You know what else Marner did? He played 81 games for the Leafs last year with Matthews missing 15 games and playing like shit for another 30 because he was “playing injured”. And yet the results? 102 points, 1st in the division, 33 PP points (24% PP), 69 5v5 points and contributed to 3 GWGs pushing the Cup Champion Panthers to Game 7. The facts could literally fuck you up the ass and you still wouldn’t realize the truth.
I know the last thing you want is multiple paragraphs that prove exactly how retarded you really are which is exactly why I’m going to keep giving it to you. Maybe it will sink in one day. But I doubt it as your blue and white retardation will persist. How’s Steve Sullivan doing by the way? Is that genius going to turn this 17% PP into the deadly weapon it was the last 8 years or does he need an elite PP player like Marner to make that happen?
Such sad boy! You say never triggered but insist on calling anyone retard that does not agree with EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
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Horse Hockey. If he did he would resigned when Nylander did.
He’s worth more than Nylander and the Leafs didn’t make him a good enough offer when they bent over backwards to get fucked by Nylander to be an overpaid, one-dimensional Swedish Phil Kessel.
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Such sad boy! You say never triggered but insist on calling anyone retard that does not agree with EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
With Marner, 24% PP, 1st in the division.
Without Marner, 17% PP (thanks Steve Sullivan for saving the day), dead last in the division.
It’s not correct because I say it. I say it because it’s correct. The facts are the facts and they don’t give a fuck about your feelings.
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He’s worth more than Nylander and the Leafs didn’t make him a good enough offer when they bent over backwards to get fucked by Nylander to be an overpaid, one-dimensional Swedish Phil Kessel.
This. He wanted roughly a $7.5 million dollar take home and in Ontario he’d need at least $15 million, and yea that is a discount because he’d actually have to be closer to $16 million.
People need to stop thinking players care that much about their cap hit, do you care what you cost your employers more than what your take home is?
Ontario tax: 53.53% for 43 games
Nevada tax: 37% for 41 gamesGee I wonder why $12 million works down there?
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Such sad boy! You say never triggered but insist on calling anyone retard that does not agree with EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
With Marner, 24% PP, 1st in the division.
Without Marner, 17% PP (thanks Steve Sullivan for saving the day), dead last in the division.
It’s not correct because I say it. I say it because it’s correct. The facts are the facts and they don’t give a fuck about your feelings.
Dude assholes like you definitely do not hurt my feelings. I will stop now since I am sure people were fed up with your paragraphs long ago and unlike you I don’t disregard everyone but myself. Meanwhile you have proven time and time again to be a selfish prick who needs to be heard and posts pages upon pages when they are finally right about something.
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And Roy finally scores lol 👍👍👍
Both teams have no pressure to win anymore, it is fun game to watch.
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Both teams have no pressure to win anymore, it is fun game to watch.
Play good to attract the attention of a good team tho?
Otherwise I totally get why you’re saying
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Both teams have no pressure to win anymore, it is fun game to watch.
Play good to attract the attention of a good team tho?
Otherwise I totally get why you’re saying
If some of them has aspiration to win something with another team then yes.
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Here’s hoping that truly means Rielly just got traded 🙏🤞
And Domi with a goal!!! 👍👍👍
So like walking over to the Canucks dreassing room?
he he he
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So like walking over to the Canucks dreassing room?
he he he
He’ll be in the shootout if it happens
Against the leafs lol
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Leafs are back! Book it.
Back to being good for a few games then disappointing?
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This. He wanted roughly a $7.5 million dollar take home and in Ontario he’d need at least $15 million, and yea that is a discount because he’d actually have to be closer to $16 million.
People need to stop thinking players care that much about their cap hit, do you care what you cost your employers more than what your take home is?
Ontario tax: 53.53% for 43 games
Nevada tax: 37% for 41 gamesGee I wonder why $12 million works down there?
Just like the other retard, you skip to the end of the story and miss everything that got him to that final chapter. Once it became clear that the franchise, the media that owns the franchise and the ravenous retarded fans made him the scapegoat and the villain he wanted what he was worth which would have been 13-14 AAV or he would leave. They pushed him out the door before he walked through it.
He would have taken less home if the organization didn’t treat him like shit or at the very least, attempted to actually protect it’s players rather than throw them to the wolves to protect themselves and their profits. You would think a franchise owned by the media would at least use the media to it’s advantage to protect it’s players. But instead, the franchise was happy to see the fans cannibalize Marner so they blamed him and not the franchise for it’s clear ineptitude.
Yes, 12 million works in Vegas because the team is a contender, the take home pay is better, the weather isn’t shit, the taxes aren’t retarded, the media isn’t vicious, the fans leave your family the fuck alone and if somebody tries to car jack you, their life is forfeit. But he would have traded ALL OF THAT if he had a franchise in Toronto that was more appreciative of what they actually had and less needy for him to make ever concession that no other players were expected to make. All Marner wanted was to be the home town hero but the city ran him out of town. So he left. And now, we see that they needed Marner more than he needed them.
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Dude assholes like you definitely do not hurt my feelings. I will stop now since I am sure people were fed up with your paragraphs long ago and unlike you I don’t disregard everyone but myself. Meanwhile you have proven time and time again to be a selfish prick who needs to be heard and posts pages upon pages when they are finally right about something.
And yet retards like you definitely hurt this franchise by persistently rewarding the mistakes of the franchise with more blind loyalty to forgive every single dumbass, retarded mistake it makes.
You will stop because your points have bene rendered retarded and you have been proven wrong, multiple times about multiple topics.
About time you waived the white flag and admitted how wrong you really were and how right I actually am.
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end to end hockey !!!
Matthews with a Penalty shot in OT!!!
It happened weeks ago that Laughton got a PK and failed miserably because he was exhausted. The same thing appeared to happen with Matthews.
The NHL needs to change the penalty shot rule to give the team the option to either take a PP or take the penalty shot.
It might result in less penalty shots (which is still fine because when they do finally happen, it will be a lot more special) but teams would probably capitalize more often overall.
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I like this roster and think if it wasn’t for injuries and bad coaching decisions, we’d be a playoff team, who could do some damage.
or a decent PP would also helped.
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end to end hockey !!!
Matthews with a Penalty shot in OT!!!
It happened weeks ago that Laughton got a
PKPS and failed miserably because he was exhausted. The same thing appeared to happen with Matthews.The NHL needs to change the penalty shot rule to give the team the option to either take a PP or take the penalty shot.
It might result in less penalty shots (which is still fine because when they do finally happen, it will be a lot more special) but teams would probably capitalize more often overall.
or allow a different player to take the PS.
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I like this roster and think if it wasn’t for injuries and bad coaching decisions, we’d be a playoff team, who could do some damage.
^^^THIS^^^
Good thing we are SO back!!!
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I like this roster and think if it wasn’t for injuries and bad coaching decisions, we’d be a playoff team, who could do some damage.
How dare you come in here and be a voice of reason?
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Hi, I’m UG, and I stupidly think a player is willing to give up $10 million dollars in take home pay just to keep a leafs jersey on.
His family plays a roll in this decision as well, his parents would be pissed, same with his wife, and other close family members as well if he gave up that kind of money to pick nothing more than a f’n jersey. Your family comes first, not your employer you fucking dingbat.
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Hi, I’m UG, and I stupidly think a player is willing to give up $10 million dollars in take home pay just to keep a leafs jersey on.
His family plays a roll in this decision as well, his parents would be pissed, same with his wife, and other close family members as well if he gave up that kind of money to pick nothing more than a f’n jersey. Your family comes first, not your employer you fucking dingbat.
Yes but do you have the power to hurt the franchise by cheering for them?
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You laffers think just because me and my UG are laughed at and mocked on here, and that not a single person gives a shit about the essays we post, or even take them serious, that we will stop?! LMAO you retards must not have payed attention to our dismantling of the Buzz. LMAO we will ruin anything we want and there’s nothing anyone can do about it!
Mmmmaaaaaarrrrrnnnnnneeeeeerrrrrrr!!!!
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With Marner, 24% PP, 1st in the division.
Without Marner, 17% PP (thanks Steve Sullivan for saving the day), dead last in the division.
It’s not correct because I say it. I say it because it’s correct. The facts are the facts and they don’t give a fuck about your feelings.[/quote]
You seem to be the only one who’s feelings are hurt cause your soft as ice cream center of your circle jerk left cause he wanted to.
The leafs got extremely lucky last year, a lot went right for them.
This year, injuries have plagued the team.
Even with Marner, this team would out of a playoff spot, as we know, marner disappears during big games. We’ve seen it for 9 years.Also, enough with the BS that marner would have taken less or taken this, you have no clue what he wanted or would have taken.
What we do KNOW, he was offered a great deal, he turned it down. We also do know that mid season, his was interested in vegas.Move on. Quit whining.
He’s gone. Get over it.
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I like this roster and think if it wasn’t for injuries and bad coaching decisions, we’d be a playoff team, who could do some damage.
So why is Vegas still #1 in their division with the most injuries, including using mostly trash goalies all year, in the NHL? How are the Panthers still in the playoff picture? How is Tampa Bay running away with the Atlantic and winning the East? Montreal? Islanders? Dallas? Buffalo?
All these teams have the same or MORE injuries than the Leafs.
So, in your retarded homer world, the only reason why the Leafs suck dick is because everything hasn’t gone absolutely perfect.
If a team has to be absolutely perfect to be average, the team is fucked because the GM is a retard and some fans are too stupid to realize it.
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You seem to be the only one who’s feelings are hurt cause your soft as ice cream center of your circle jerk left cause he wanted to.
I couldn’t give less of a shit if I’m the “only one” because I’m right and you’re wrong, as you usually are.
The leafs got extremely lucky last year, a lot went right for them.
Leafs got “lucky” that Matthews was shit and Marner carried the team? 82 games of luck? Ya, you’re just saying retarded shit to create an excuse, but you’re wrong.
This year, injuries have plagued the team.
Same fucking retarded talking point on repeat from the usual retards. Vegas has more injuries. So does Tampa Bay. Injuries are only an excuse for shit teams with shit GMs.
Even with Marner, this team would out of a playoff spot, as we know, marner disappears during big games. We’ve seen it for 9 years.
Wrong. Marner never missed the playoffs. Did Marner disappear when Matthews was hurt last year? Nope. 102 points. 1st in the division.
What did Marner do vs. the Panthers? Contributed to 3 GWGs. What did Nylander and Tavares do? Fucking nothing.
Keep talking about the “big games” while this Leafs team folded both times they played Marner in a “big game”. The “big game” narrative only makes sense to retards like you. Without Marner, there will be ZERO playoff games much less big games.
Also, enough with the BS that marner would have taken less or taken this, you have no clue what he wanted or would have taken.
What we do KNOW, he was offered a great deal, he turned it down. We also do know that mid season, his was interested in vegas.Wrong again retard. Marner always held being a Maple Leaf very high on his priority list. What we do KNOW is that the Leafs low balled him, treated him poorly and then the market did the rest of the work running him out of town. He was only interested in Vegas because this franchise dropped the ball in keeping one of their best players. They pushed him out the door before he walked through it.
Move on. Quit whining.
He’s gone. Get over it.
This team wasnt great with him and they arent great without him. He wasnt the only problem with this team, but he was part of it.
Get over it.Nope. Go fuck yourself. He left because the franchise failed. Admit you were wrong and get over that Marner left this team because this franchise, the media and some retard fans like yourself pushed him to leave and now the Leafs are trash and he is doing great. He absolutely was not the problem with this team as we can see Nylander, Tavares, Rielly, Carlo etc. are indeed such a huge part of the problem they can’t even make the playoffs with the replacements.
You’re wrong. Get over it.
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Nope. Go fuck yourself. He left because the franchise failed. Admit you were wrong and get over that Marner left this team because this franchise, the media and some retard fans like yourself pushed him to leave and now the Leafs are trash and he is doing great. He absolutely was not the problem with this team as we can see Nylander, Tavares, Rielly, Carlo etc. are indeed such a huge part of the problem they can’t even make the playoffs with the replacements.
You’re wrong. Get over it.
Have you ever stopped to consider that the Leafs failed and continue to fail as a franchise because it’s just so damned entertaining watching you spiral out of control? Seriously, I’m really starting to enjoy how miserable this makes you. Granted, I don’t read your rambling posts 90% of the time because I simply don’t care, but it truly makes me happy that you’re unhappy.
Vegas has lost 5 in a row and Marner has been below a point per game for the last 10 games or so, but that’s none of my business. $12M well spent.
Hey, remember that time you tried to dunk on me but then made an error in your reply? Classic.
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Have you ever stopped to consider that the Leafs failed and continue to fail as a franchise because it’s just so damned entertaining watching you spiral out of control? Seriously, I’m really starting to enjoy how miserable this makes you. Granted, I don’t read your rambling posts 90% of the time because I simply don’t care, but it truly makes me happy that you’re unhappy.
Vegas has lost 5 in a row and Marner has been below a point per game for the last 10 games or so, but that’s none of my business. $12M well spent.
Hey, remember that time you tried to dunk on me but then made an error in your reply? Classic.
Leafs lost 6 games in a row and it effectively ended their season. Where is Vegas with the most injuries in the NHL? Oh, wow, still 1st in the division.
How many goals does Matthews have in his last 6 games? Only 1? Minus 3? 13.25 million well spent. It will be fun to watch retards like you run him out of town next.
Remember when you tried to pretend like this team would be better without Marner and now they’re going to miss the playoffs? Classically retarded.
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Nope. Go fuck yourself. He left because the franchise failed. Admit you were wrong and get over that Marner left this team because this franchise, the media and some retard fans like yourself pushed him to leave and now the Leafs are trash and he is doing great. He absolutely was not the problem with this team as we can see Nylander, Tavares, Rielly, Carlo etc. are indeed such a huge part of the problem they can’t even make the playoffs with the replacements.
You’re wrong. Get over it.
Have you ever stopped to consider that the Leafs failed and continue to fail as a franchise because it’s just so damned entertaining watching you spiral out of control? Seriously, I’m really starting to enjoy how miserable this makes you. Granted, I don’t read your rambling posts 90% of the time because I simply don’t care, but it truly makes me happy that you’re unhappy.
Vegas has lost 5 in a row and Marner has been below a point per game for the last 10 games or so, but that’s none of my business. $12M well spent.
Hey, remember that time you tried to dunk on me but then made an error in your reply? Classic.
Hey Whip! Apparently I am not smart enough to research so can you help me out please? How is the Leaf’s PK doing without their supposed #1 PKer Mitch Selke Marner. I would ask someone else but do not want a novel on all things Mitch not related to my PK question. Thanks in advance.
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I like this roster and think if it wasn’t for injuries and bad coaching decisions, we’d be a playoff team, who could do some damage.
So why is Vegas still #1 in their division with the most injuries, including using mostly trash goalies all year, in the NHL? How are the Panthers still in the playoff picture? How is Tampa Bay running away with the Atlantic and winning the East? Montreal? Islanders? Dallas? Buffalo?
All these teams have the same or MORE injuries than the Leafs.
So, in your retarded homer world, the only reason why the Leafs suck dick is because everything hasn’t gone absolutely perfect.
If a team has to be absolutely perfect to be average, the team is fucked because the GM is a retard and some fans are too stupid to realize it.
14 point and counting for OT loser point is why.
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Hey Whip! Apparently I am not smart enough to research so can you help me out please? How is the Leaf’s PK doing without their supposed #1 PKer Mitch Selke Marner. I would ask someone else but do not want a novel on all things Mitch not related to my PK question. Thanks in advance.
Hey retard, how is the Leafs PP doing without Marner? Dropped from 24% down to 17%? Wow, good thing Steve Sullivan is going to save the day.
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14 point and counting for OT loser point is why.
Oh and Vegas is the ONLY team allowed to collect “loser points”? Oh wait, the Leafs have 9 loser points?
Oh, Vegas is #1 in injuries and using AHLers in net for most of the season but still leading their division?
Wow, facts like that just destroy your dog shit argument rather quickly.
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14 point and counting for OT loser point is why.
Oh and Vegas is the ONLY team allowed to collect “loser points”? Oh wait, the Leafs have 9 loser points?
Oh, Vegas is #1 in injuries and using AHLers in net for most of the season but still leading their division?
Wow, facts like that just destroy your dog shit argument rather quickly.
Learn how to quote you fucking retard, I wasn’t the one that made that comment. Dumb fuck proves he’s fucking dumb, again.
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Learn how to quote you fucking retard, I wasn’t the one that made that comment. Dumb fuck proves he’s fucking dumb, again.
Not my problem the only thing more broken and retarded here than your brain is this site.
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Learn how to quote you fucking retard, I wasn’t the one that made that comment. Dumb fuck proves he’s fucking dumb, again.
Not my problem the only thing more broken and retarded here than your brain is this site.
Nice try, you don’t get to rag on other posters constantly calling them retards for quoting incorrectly, then blaming the website when you retardedly do retarded things.
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Nice try, you don’t get to rag on other posters constantly calling them retards for quoting incorrectly, then blaming the website when you retardedly do retarded things.
Wrong again retard. If I click the quote button and it comes up with the wrong # for the post, that’s completely different than some retard not knowing how to press the quote button at all or deleting the closed end bracket that fucks up the entire quote.
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Nice try, you don’t get to rag on other posters constantly calling them retards for quoting incorrectly, then blaming the website when you retardedly do retarded things.
Wrong again retard. If I click the quote button and it comes up with the wrong # for the post, that’s completely different than some retard not knowing how to press the quote button at all or deleting the closed end bracket that fucks up the entire quote.
Just like how this broken ass site deleted the majority of the thread…and double posting…
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Having all the posts on the same page makes it brutal… hockeyshitscroll.com
But easier to find shit retards said a few weeks ago.
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Maple Leafs record in games without Morgan Rielly since 2020–21:
– 23-5-1
– 125 goals scored
– 69 goals againstHere comes the winning streak (vs. bad teams) and confirmation that Rielly needs to go.
Well, I doubt the leafs get to the bottom five so as long as the winning streak doesn’t turn them into buyers I won’t mind.
But Rielly should be getting to the point where he wants to go, and is hopefully getting less fussy about what team.
Leave him in Calgary, hold up $500K, and bring home Kadri 😉
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Maple Leafs record in games without Morgan Rielly since 2020–21:
– 23-5-1
– 125 goals scored
– 69 goals againstHere comes the winning streak (vs. bad teams) and confirmation that Rielly needs to go.
Well, I doubt the leafs get to the bottom five so as long as the winning streak doesn’t turn them into buyers I won’t mind.
But Rielly should be getting to the point where he wants to go, and is hopefully getting less fussy about what team.
Leave him in Calgary, hold up $500K, and bring home Kadri 😉
He’ll go when Tessa is ready to go.
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He’ll go when Tessa is ready to go.
Fire Treliving and go hire Jimmy DeMaria to take his place. Let him deal with well, whoever he wants.
Go Leafs Go!!!
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The Leafs generating no offence.
So Willy got traded during the 1st Intermission Harvey’s Quiz? 😉
All dumb ass jokes aside, I get what you’re saying
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Maple Leafs record in games without Morgan Rielly since 2020–21:
– 23-5-1
– 125 goals scored
– 69 goals againstHere comes the winning streak (vs. bad teams) and confirmation that Rielly needs to go.
Literally, nobody is denying that Rielly needs to go. But you’re too retarded to realize that he’s terrible, overpaid, has a NMC, and isn’t going to waive.
HOLY FUCK, WILLY IS HAVING A GAME!!!
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Literally, nobody is denying that Rielly needs to go. But you’re too retarded to realize that he’s terrible, overpaid, has a NMC, and isn’t going to waive.
HOLY FUCK, WILLY IS HAVING A GAME!!!
Seriously, fire Treliving and hire this guy as the GM and get rid of everyone under NMC/NTC
Then hire the new GM after that
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Literally, nobody is denying that Rielly needs to go. But you’re too retarded to realize that he’s terrible, overpaid, has a NMC, and isn’t going to waive.
And you’re literally too retarded to realize history says, every player eventually waives the NMC. It’s happened before, it will happen again.
Leafs beating terrible teams is too little, too late to make the playoffs, they’ll have to win 20 games to make it now. At least Boston won’t get a great pick at this rate.
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McMann increases his price!!! 👍👍👍
Yeah, his 8 year extension is getting pricey.
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Who we bringing in at the deadline?!?!?
Owen Nolan, Ron Francis, Phil Housley, Luke Schenn and Yanic Perreault.
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Yeah, his 8 year extension is getting pricey.
Him and Knies will have identical contracts and end up being Matthews’ wingers
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Owen Nolan, Ron Francis, Phil Housley, Luke Schenn and Yanic Perreault.
Those guys today, literally today, would make the leafs faster
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Literally, nobody is denying that Rielly needs to go. But you’re too retarded to realize that he’s terrible, overpaid, has a NMC, and isn’t going to waive.
And you’re literally too retarded to realize history says, every player eventually waives the NMC. It’s happened before, it will happen again.
Leafs beating terrible teams is too little, too late to make the playoffs, they’ll have to win 20 games to make it now. At least Boston won’t get a great pick at this rate.
Yes some players do waive their NMC but Tessa likes it here in Toronto, so he ain’t waiving his NMC.
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Yes some players do waive their NMC but Tessa likes it here in Toronto, so he ain’t waiving his NMC.[/quote]
I believe PA-neuf had a NMC/NTC and his wife Elisha liked it here and he waived.
Its possible, its just that moving him when he’s terrible means the leafs will not only have to eat salary (kinda against the point), have to add a sweetener and will get garbage back.
Im fine with getting nothing back, but I dont want to retain (maybe a million max) and we dont have any picks or prospects that we can add as a sweetener.The leafs are in a real bad spot…… but at least they dont have $13.5m wrap up in soft reg season player (outside of matthews)….they have some flexibility at the end of the season.
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And you’re literally too retarded to realize history says, every player eventually waives the NMC. It’s happened before, it will happen again.
Leafs beating terrible teams is too little, too late to make the playoffs, they’ll have to win 20 games to make it now. At least Boston won’t get a great pick at this rate.
You keep calling me a retard, but yet you only addressed one (1) of my three (3) main points. I get it, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Just for fun, let’s assume Rielly waives, (he won’t). Now, you STILL have a terrible defenseman making way too much money for way too long. How do you move that contract?
The best part? If Tre does manage to move Rielly, two things are going to happen:
1) You’re going to bitch and moan about the sweeteners Tre had to include to get some dumb fuck to take that contract and term.
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Man – what a goal by Rantanen last night. Holy smokes eh.
No wonder Leafs fans are pissed – bitch boys selfishness narcissism cost the Buds that beast! Selfish little pussy bitchy mitchy and his vagina-face.
Speaking of pussies, that pussy is still in here crying. Every time I check out what’s going on in here it’s the same stupid shit from same sad little cuck and his scissor sister. How his bf broke his heart and left. Poor little guy, he just can’t handle it. Catch the net little fella – he doesn’t like you anymore, you broke up, he left.…Can’t use reply/quote, spelling/grammar errors (past and present tense issues), cat read Whippers full post…what a retard this chunker is – no wonder he’s an incel.
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Yes some players do waive their NMC but Tessa likes it here in Toronto, so he ain’t waiving his NMC.
NMC have been waived before, they will be waived again.
You keep calling me a retard
Yes, because that’s what you are.
but yet you only addressed one (1) of my three (3) main points. I get it, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Two more words for you: Dion Phaneuf
Just for fun, let’s assume Rielly waives, (he won’t). Now, you STILL have a terrible defenseman making way too much money for way too long. How do you move that contract?
For years, playing in Toronto was fun for Rielly. They were a playoff team. But now they aren’t anymore. The less fun it is to play in Toronto, the more likely he waives.
The best part? If Tre does manage to move Rielly, two things are going to happen:
No, no retard, the best part is, you fire Treliving and hire somebody else who isn’t more retarded than you are to get the job done.
1) You’re going to bitch and moan about the sweeteners Tre had to include to get some dumb fuck to take that contract and term.
2) You’re going to have to admit that Tre did something good, which we all know isn’t going to happen. You’ll just find something else to bitch about.Dion Phaneuf got traded after playing a season where he only scored 20-29 points. As bad as Rielly is defensively, he is still scoring 40-50 points. That means he provides offensive value. In the correct situation, with the correct defensive partner, he doesn’t have the insane negative value that you think he has. Erik Karlsson, who is notoriously trash defensively, has been traded multiple times. It can and will happen if the Leafs have the right GM (not Treliving).
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The leafs are in a real bad spot…… but at least they dont have $13.5m wrap up in soft reg season player (outside of matthews)….they have some flexibility at the end of the season.
By your retarded logic, the Leafs have 83 million wrapped up in regular season failures who miss the playoffs, considering Marner still has more career playoff points than everybody still on this team, including Nylander, Tavares and Matthews.
Whatever cap space you think the Leafs have saved, they’ve already wasted on trash replacements. And the UFA market is dogshit. Not like they’d want to sign in the piece of shit city and franchise Toronto has become anyway. Except for the hometown guys but this franchise and market has done it’s best to trade and run those guys out of town so, that’s not going to happen either unless it’s pajama boy and his failure of a playoff record.
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…Can’t use reply/quote, spelling/grammar errors (past and present tense issues), cat read Whippers full post…what a retard this chunker is – no wonder he’s an incel.
23BigIQ points fails again.
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I take it someone isn’t married. You know, happy wife, Happy life. Brah.
dindn’t Pronger’s wife dislike Edmonton so much she wanted/got her husband trade elsewhere?
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I take it someone isn’t married. You know, happy wife, Happy life. Brah.
dindn’t Pronger’s wife dislike Edmonton so much she wanted/got her husband trade elsewhere?
Not saying an NMC can’t be waived but if the wife doesn’t want to move, the player is most likely not waiving his NMC. IMOWell now you did it man – this little fat man incel is gonna go pummel some woman he sees on the street now.
Christ man be more responsible man. You cat rile him up like that. Some poor woman, or bipoc person is gonna pay that price now.Now he’s correcting my typo but was crickets when I pointed 4 of his spelling errors. What a cat. Meow.
Little fat boy/man = virgin who the ladies are grossed out by = miserable little cunty retard who never could fit his chubby feet in skates so never learned.
He is great at reading other people’s opinions on Sportsnet/TSN and attempting to pawn it as his own.
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I take it someone isn’t married. You know, happy wife, Happy life. Brah.
dindn’t Pronger’s wife dislike Edmonton so much she wanted/got her husband trade elsewhere?
Not saying an NMC can’t be waived but if the wife doesn’t want to move, the player is most likely not waiving his NMC. IMOI take it some retards marry an insufferable cunt that needs everything to go her way or she makes life miserable.
You have it in your head that his wife doesn’t want to move with zero actual evidence that is true or that her mind can’t be changed.
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What is more sad?
1. The way someone needs to call everyone names and ramble on incoherently because of their extreme lack of self esteem.
2. The fact someone is so desperate for clicks that they allow someone to be such a dick.
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What is more sad?
1. The way someone needs to call everyone names and ramble on incoherently because of their extreme lack of self esteem.
2. The fact someone is so desperate for clicks that they allow someone to be such a dick.
3. Steve Sullivan, the PP genius.
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Leafs to get the 1st power kill of this game.
🤮it was killed!
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Leafs to get the 1st power kill of this game.
🤮it was killed!
I figured that was a 1-0 deficit, 100%.
Nice backcheck, Willy!
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Solid road W for the Leafs going 3-1-0 on this road trip. 👍
Getting that 9th spot and giving Boston the worst possible pick.
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Leafs are something like 23-5 without Rielly over the last few seasons.
thats pretty good
Give Tre a lifetime extension if he can move that anchor contract.
Stollie just had a showcase night, move him now while the feeling is still fresh. We ride with Woll and Hildebeast, and still have Akhtyhacibhwicvhsowbov waiting in the wings.
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Proposed Trade:
Edmonton receives: Brandon Carlo, Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2027 first-round pick, 2026 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick
I was reading this today.
I’m on the fence trading Carlo.
I would do this trade:
Edmonton receives: Bobby McMann (50% retained)
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Proposed Trade:
Edmonton receives: Brandon Carlo, Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2027 first-round pick, 2026 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick
I was reading this today.
I’m on the fence trading Carlo.
I would do this trade:
Edmonton receives: Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2026 second-round pick, 2027 second-round pickDoes Mangi give Willy a Rolex for his number?
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Proposed Trade:
Edmonton receives: Brandon Carlo, Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2027 first-round pick, 2026 second-round pick, 2028 second-round pick
I was reading this today.
I’m on the fence trading Carlo.
I would do this trade:
Edmonton receives: Bobby McMann (50% retained)
Toronto receives: Andrew Mangiapane, 2026 second-round pick, 2027 second-round pickNope. Carlo and McMann should bring one 1st round pick each.
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Panarin to the Kings.
For Liam Greentree (former 1st round pick) and a conditional 3rd that becomes a 2nd if LA wins a round. Decent return.
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Gavin McKenna facing multiple felony charges, could face 20 years?!? Is this real?!?!
Better fate than being drafted by Vancouver, though.
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Gavin McKenna facing multiple felony charges, could face 20 years?!? Is this real?!?!
Better fate than being drafted by Vancouver, though.
Yup. Basically assault. Did hockey shit off the ice.
Knowing the Leafs luck, he falls in the draft to where Boston has our pick.
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Nope. Carlo and McMann should bring one 1st round pick each.
Take a seat and shut the fuck up you retard, nobody cares about your shitty opinions.
JT scores last night
Maccelli scores 2
Leafs PP at 100%
Stollie with a great game
Leafs beat the Oilers in Edmonton to win 3 in a row on a west coast swing.You probably cried yourself to sleep cuddling your Marner poster.
You are by far the king of the retards for just about everything you post here you little incel bitch boy.
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Take a seat and shut the fuck up you retard, nobody cares about your shitty opinions.
JT scores last night
Maccelli scores 2
Leafs PP at 100%
Stollie with a great game
Leafs beat the Oilers in Edmonton to win 3 in a row on a west coast swing.You probably cried yourself to sleep cuddling your Marner poster.
You are by far the king of the retards for just about everything you post here you little incel bitch boy.
I will not allow ANY Mitch “The Great” Marner slander on this forum. He’s has put up a staggering *checks notes* 8 points in his last 10 games on a DOMINANT (3-5-2 in last 10) Vegas team. He is on pace for a historic (…ly terrible) season by his standards, the likes of which we haven’t’ seen since the 17-18 season. $12M well spent.
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Panarin to the Kings.
Had the leafs acquired him, it would have costed a 1st and cowan.
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Had the leafs acquired him, it would have costed a 1st and cowan.
Cowan has been sitting because he’s the one guy not for sale. ELC guaranteed NHLer is literally the only thing the leafs won’t give up. Yup, prices are up and down depending on who, but anyone else is tradeable.
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Had the leafs acquired him, it would have costed a 1st and cowan.
Cowan has been sitting because he’s the one guy not for sale. ELC guaranteed NHLer is literally the only thing the leafs won’t give up. Yup, prices are up and down depending on who, but anyone else is tradeable.
Should be doubt shifting McMann, Roy, Laughton, Jarnkrok, Carlo, OEL; get all of their value as sky high as possible. The big fish might go early which will leave desperate playoff pretenders left to scramble to get something for a higher price.
Everybody should be moved and all the draft picks and prospects coming back will help the rebuild.
Then trade Nylander and Matthews at the draft in 2027. There will be nobody left to play with so Rielly and Tavares will take a hike too.
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Cowan has been sitting because he’s the one guy not for sale. ELC guaranteed NHLer is literally the only thing the leafs won’t give up. Yup, prices are up and down depending on who, but anyone else is tradeable.[/quote]
No matter what happens after the Olympics, the leafs cannot be buyers.Move out Mcmann, Domi and Marcelli for sure.
Re-sign laughton, depending on what he wants.
If you are blown away with a package for OEL, trade him. Otherwise they will be looking a similar D in the off season not sure they’ll find one as cheap.The Leafs arent going scorched earth, they dont have their own 1st this year and next (thanks to horrible trades by Tre again). Heck, if they go .500 in the 6 games prior to the deadline I think they only trade Mcmann.
But we’ll see.
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Should be doubt shifting McMann, Roy, Laughton, Jarnkrok, Carlo, OEL; get all of their value as sky high as possible. The big fish might go early which will leave desperate playoff pretenders left to scramble to get something for a higher price.
Everybody should be moved and all the draft picks and prospects coming back will help the rebuild.
Then trade Nylander and Matthews at the draft in 2027. There will be nobody left to play with so Rielly and Tavares will take a hike too. – King of the Retards
Another fucking retarded take by the absolute king of the retards.
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Another fucking retarded take by the absolute king of the retards.
Another brain dead retard using a different account but still has the same retarded brain he’s always had. Pathetic RetardRanger.
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Another brain dead retard using a different account but still has the same retarded brain he’s always had. Pathetic RetardRanger.[/quote]Yes this is exactly you UG you retard, why don’t you just shut your retarded pie hole up for once and do the world a favour.
Nobody here wants to hear your shitty opinions or takes but you’re just too retarded to understand that.
You room temperature IQ, incel little bitch.
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Should be doubt shifting McMann, Roy, Laughton, Jarnkrok, Carlo, OEL; get all of their value as sky high as possible. The big fish might go early which will leave desperate playoff pretenders left to scramble to get something for a higher price.
Everybody should be moved and all the draft picks and prospects coming back will help the rebuild.
Then trade Nylander and Matthews at the draft in 2027. There will be nobody left to play with so Rielly and Tavares will take a hike too.
Retards gonna retard.
But, every Jarnkrok shift is a doubt shift, because I doubt anything positive is going to happen.
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If you are blown away with a package for OEL, trade him. Otherwise they will be looking a similar D in the off season not sure they’ll find one as cheap.
The Leafs arent going scorched earth, they dont have their own 1st this year and next (thanks to horrible trades by Tre again). Heck, if they go .500 in the 6 games prior to the deadline I think they only trade Mcmann.
But we’ll see.
I agree, keep OEL. Very serviceable dman at a VERY manageable cap hit for the next two years. Is there a better dman at that cap hit in the entire league?!? The D is set up pretty good for the next few years, re-sign Stecher and maybe Tanev gets healthy.
Like you say, this won’t be a full rebuild. Tendies are nice, (could move Stollie IMO), D is fine, they just need to get a better winger for Matty and one other middle six piece and the team is right back in the mix.
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I agree, keep OEL. Very serviceable dman at a VERY manageable cap hit for the next two years. Is there a better dman at that cap hit in the entire league?!?
Nah, trade him. That’s exactly why you get great value in return, minimum a 1st round pick.
The D is set up pretty good for the next few years, re-sign Stecher and maybe Tanev gets healthy.
Holy fuck you’re actually that retarded to believe that. The Leafs have given up more goals per game than almost every other team in the NHL but you sit there and pretend the D is good? The D is a fucking disaster. It’s fucking old, for starters. Tanev is one hit away from retirement and yet you’re going to pin your delusional dumbass hopes that he not only gets healthy but never takes another hit ever again? He’s fucking finished. Leafs would be wise and lucky to trade Tanev’s contract to another pretender (as stupid as the Leafs were when they signed Tanev) so when he finally takes his retirement shot, he’s off our books.
Stetcher was a 7th D, waiver wire pick-up. Absolutely trade his midget ass before he regresses back to normal. Sell high. You retards always want to re-sign these guys who have career years and then wonder why the team has bloated contracts they can’t get rid of.
Like you say, this won’t be a full rebuild. Tendies are nice, (could move Stollie IMO), D is fine, they just need to get a better winger for Matty and one other middle six piece and the team is right back in the mix.
Goalies are always injured (or shit like Stolarz has been for most of the season), D is trash and old, better winger? Nah, can’t have those.
3rd oldest team in the NHL. Blow it up. This era is over. Full. Fucking. Tilt. Rebuild.
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Retarded verbal diarrhea
Yes, let’s trade OEL and then spend the next two seasons wishing we had a player like him.
Literally, every player is one hit away from retirement. Leafs have $22M to play with next season and only a few holes to plug.
The Leafs are actually the 7th oldest team in the league. You know who’s older? The Avs. Should probably blow that team up too, eh?
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I’m too retarded to realize I can’t be verbal on a message board.
We know.
Yes, let’s trade OEL and then spend the next two seasons wishing we had a player like him.
Yes, let’s keep fighting for 9th place as wild card pretenders while we waste the opportunity to recover draft capital.
Draft the next OEL instead of running the same old bones into mediocrity.
Literally, every player is one hit away from retirement. Leafs have $22M to play with next season and only a few holes to plug.
Wrong again retard. Tanev is on his way to Muzzin Manor on Robidas Island. He’s a distinct injury liability. He always has been. Trade him now while you still can.
The Leafs are actually the 7th oldest team in the league. You know who’s older? The Avs. Should probably blow that team up too, eh?
Not sure where you got those numbers but the Leafs were 3rd oldest to start the season. The old players got hurt and lowered the average due to their younger replacements.
Are the Avalanche one of the worst teams in the NHL who have never had playoff success? Oh, they’re actually the best team and have won a Cup? Look at that, your retarded point has been easily disproven again. The Leafs have had no success being an old team. Time to blow it up and start over.
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All I can say is this: Leafs just need to win every game that they possibly can. It’s obvious that they’re not finishing in the bottom 5. They only have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. They have to hold off Florida and catch either Boston or Buffalo. As the season gets later, the 3 point games will be telling, when it’s time to make a playoff push. The other only reason is, to deny the Bruins a higher 1st round pick that the Leafs traded to them. Giving them a top 10 pick would be disaster. Finishing outside of a playoff spot would make it around 14 or 15. Too many Western teams will have a worse record. The problem is, Florida and Ottawa are also close to the Leafs. They need to get some picks through trades and still be competitive down the stretch. Finish strong and rebound through free agency and having a healthier roster next year.
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All I can say is this: Leafs just need to win every game that they possibly can. It’s obvious that they’re not finishing in the bottom 5. They only have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. They have to hold off Florida and catch either Boston or Buffalo. As the season gets later, the 3 point games will be telling, when it’s time to make a playoff push. The other only reason is, to deny the Bruins a higher 1st round pick that the Leafs traded to them. Giving them a top 10 pick would be disaster. Finishing outside of a playoff spot would make it around 14 or 15. Too many Western teams will have a worse record. The problem is, Florida and Ottawa are also close to the Leafs. They need to get some picks through trades and still be competitive down the stretch. Finish strong and rebound through free agency and having a healthier roster next year.
I would rather see Boston draft 10th overall and the Leafs sell hard to show their “core” players, this era is over and it’s time to start thinking about where they want to play next. Small price to pay to get this franchise back on the right track again, from the ground up.
The pick that went to Boston is gone. It can’t come back. So the Leafs making a wild card run is pointless because it just revives this delusion that this team can contend. It can’t. The sooner that realization is made, the sooner Treliving gets fired and the sooner a new President and GM can be hired to plan the road ahead on the next rebuild.
The Leafs could gather 4-5 1st round picks just from it’s “depth” pieces in Roy, Laughton, McMann, OEL, Carlo…another 3-4 1st round picks and 2-3 top prospects for Matthews and Nylander. The Leafs could be looking at adding at least 10-12 1st round picks / top prospects in 2 years, plus two lottery picks if they tank in 2028 and 2029. That’s potentially adding 14 top prospects in 4 years. The way Leafs fans gush about Cowan, just imagine if he was the worst prospect in the pipeline with 14 other guys bigger and better than him in the system.
By 2030, they could have a team full of guys under 25 (at both forward and defense, not top loaded only at forward), loaded with plenty of cap space to fill in the gap with veteran role players to fill the gaps. That type foundation presents the Leafs with a real opportunity to contend and not this fantasy bullshit of Matthews being able to carry this entire team to a Cup by himself when McDavid hasn’t even been able to do that.
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All I can say is this: Leafs just need to win every game that they possibly can. It’s obvious that they’re not finishing in the bottom 5. They only have a 25% chance of making the playoffs. They have to hold off Florida and catch either Boston or Buffalo. As the season gets later, the 3 point games will be telling, when it’s time to make a playoff push. The other only reason is, to deny the Bruins a higher 1st round pick that the Leafs traded to them. Giving them a top 10 pick would be disaster. Finishing outside of a playoff spot would make it around 14 or 15. Too many Western teams will have a worse record. The problem is, Florida and Ottawa are also close to the Leafs. They need to get some picks through trades and still be competitive down the stretch. Finish strong and rebound through free agency and having a healthier roster next year.
I agree the leafs are not taking it down to the studs at all and probably wont finish in the bottom 5. Matthews and Nylander are not going anywhere, and if they had to go, teams wouldnt offer much in return and the amount of teams that could take on their contracts are very limited – these are not in season trades and they simply are not happening.
The Leafs may get a 1st for McMann and OEL, but not getting a 1st for anyone else that would be trade bait (Domi, Laughton, marcelli)
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McKenna can throw knuckles, broke a guys jaw with two punches. Stock value just went up.
Definitely going first overall in the prison league. Which sexual deviant has the first overall pick, Diddy, or Epstein?
He’ll get community service.
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I agree the leafs are not taking it down to the studs at all and probably wont finish in the bottom 5. Matthews and Nylander are not going anywhere, and if they had to go, teams wouldnt offer much in return and the amount of teams that could take on their contracts are very limited – these are not in season trades and they simply are not happening.
The Leafs may get a 1st for McMann and OEL, but not getting a 1st for anyone else that would be trade bait (Domi, Laughton, marcelli)
This isnt a video game, its reality. Leafs arent doing a full rebuild and getting 10 1st rounders LOLLeafs have $20M+ next year. Throw a bunch of cash to pry Raddysh out of Tampa, and see who you can find to fill a top 6 winger role. Rebuild complete.
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Leafs have $20M+ next year. Throw a bunch of cash to pry Raddysh out of Tampa, and see who you can find to fill a top 6 winger role. Rebuild complete.
Yes because overspending on UFAs always solves the Leafs problems, every, single, time. Like Tavares. Leafs signed him from Long Island and won so many Stanley Cups, his cap hit didn’t matter anymore.
The UFA class for next year won’t solve a fucking thing for this broken team.
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Leafs have $20M+ next year. Throw a bunch of cash to pry Raddysh out of Tampa, and see who you can find to fill a top 6 winger role. Rebuild complete.
Yes because overspending on UFAs always solves the Leafs problems, every, single, time. Like Tavares. Leafs signed him from Long Island and won so many Stanley Cups, his cap hit didn’t matter anymore.
The UFA class for next year won’t solve a fucking thing for this broken team.
apparently nothing will but you gotta start somewhere.
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apparently nothing will but you gotta start somewhere.
No, nothing will fix this fundamentally broken team, especially not a spending spree on a weak UFA options which include: 37 year old Bob. 40 year old Ovechkin. 36 year old John Carlson. 40 year old Malkin. Patrik Laine. Jacob Trouba. Kevin Hayes. Anders Lee. Shall I continue?
Absolutely nobody available can save this team. The “start somewhere” is fire Treliving and trade everybody over 25. The only UFAs the Leafs need are to reach the cap floor and picking up cheap contracts you can flip for a pick at the deadline.
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Sounds like the Leafs could of traded McMann prior to the Olympic freeze
Hope they do get that 1st rnd pck for him and a prospect.
Brad better not fumble this shit, Leafs have a penchant for selling at the wrong times or not at all.
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Brad better not fumble this shit, Leafs have a penchant for selling at the wrong times or not at all.
Mcmann is cool and all, but he is 29 not like they are moving a young up and comer.Treliving is the most Leafy GM they’ve had in more than a decade. He absolutely will fuck this up.
I will say one thing about McMann, even though he’s probably going to get overpaid, Hyman was in the same boat when the Leafs let him walk. He signed for 5.5 and went on to score 50 after 30.
Not saying McMann will for sure score 50 but he’s fast, he’s a big body and he has a decent shot; all qualities better than Hyman. As much as I want the Leafs to sell high on him and bring in a 1st, knowing the Leafs history, he could be another one that got away.
All that being said, the odds are, he won’t be more than what he is now and the Leafs are better off with the draft pick and trying their luck to bring him back if he hits the UFA market.
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Yes because overspending on UFAs always solves the Leafs problems, every, single, time. Like Tavares. Leafs signed him from Long Island and won so many Stanley Cups, his cap hit didn’t matter anymore.
The UFA class for next year won’t solve a fucking thing for this broken team.
Wait, so the Dodgers overspending on everything that moves is a brilliant strategy, and the Jays are fucking retards for not doing the same.
But the Leafs overspending never works and they’re retarded for trying it. Got it.
Before you move the goalposts, yes, I realize the cap in the NHL is different from whatever bullshit “cap” MLB has.
The reality is, the Leafs have to overpay to get UFAs to come to Canada so those players have the privilege of being robbed by our dumbass government to support gender rainbow education in Malawi, taking guns away from lawful owners, or whatever the next dumb fuck program is. So, we better hope whoever we bring in can light a fire under some of our less motivated players. We finally have the cap space, use it.
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Wait, so the Dodgers overspending on everything that moves is a brilliant strategy, and the Jays are fucking retards for not doing the same.
But the Leafs overspending never works and they’re retarded for trying it. Got it.
Before you move the goalposts, yes, I realize the cap in the NHL is different from whatever bullshit “cap” MLB has.
If you realized that the cap in the NHL is different than the MLB then you should have stopped yourself from making that dumbass point and comparing apples to tire irons.
Overspending in the NHL doesn’t work. Overspending in the MLB does work. The Tampa Bay Rays went to the World Series on a shoestring budget and lost to…? The Dodgers. Then the Dodgers took their best pitcher from them and proceeded to win two more World Series. The Jays already spend a lot of money but to beat the best they have to spend more. That’s not because the Dodgers waste what they spend. They don’t have four overpaid DHs. They spread the money around different positions. What did the retard Leafs do when they already had Marner, Matthews and Nylander? They overspent on Tavares. More of what they already had and didn’t need more of.
The reality is, the Leafs have to overpay to get UFAs to come to Canada so those players have the privilege of being robbed by our dumbass government to support gender rainbow education in Malawi, taking guns away from lawful owners, or whatever the next dumb fuck program is.
This is by far the least retarded thing you’ve ever said. More of this please and less of the other stupid shit.
So, we better hope whoever we bring in can light a fire under some of our less motivated players.
Incorrect. The Leafs only available option, that they haven’t tried in 58 years, is keep all their draft picks and build the team from the ground up. As you mentioned earlier, these players don’t want to play in shit weather, with retarded rainbow taxes, and a lunatic media. They want to play on a winner though. And all those other factors start to matter less and less if the team is a winner. The Leafs have to build a team that can compete and the rest of the drama will fall by the wayside. Make it a goal to draft 100 players in 10 years. Even if you hit on 20% of 100 draft picks, you have 20 players you can form a foundation on, at multiple positions.
You know what else building a team through the draft means? It means you have players on ELC and on low paying contracts which means more cap space. It almost means you have a pipeline of replacements when some of those guys want too much money and can’t fit under the cap. It also gives you a pipeline to replenish draft capital by selling high on players and having the in house depth to replace them without losing results on the ice.
We finally have the cap space, use it.
Use the cap space on who? List the players. 40 year old Malkin and Ovechkin? Patrik Laine? Spending cap space on inconsequential players is just more of the same failure this franchise has engaged in for decades.
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Sounds like the Leafs could of traded McMann prior to the Olympic freeze
Hope they do get that 1st rnd pck for him and a prospect.
A first round pick is likely a longshot. A first and a prospect is a complete pipe dream.
Hopefully, they get a first from a desperate team, and then he returns to the Leafs July 1st.
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A first round pick is likely a longshot. A first and a prospect is a complete pipe dream.
Hopefully, they get a first from a desperate team, and then he returns to the Leafs July 1st.
A 1st is not a long shot. Carlo cost a 1st++. Laughton cost a 1st++. The deadline is the day where desperate playoff pretenders and contenders make mistakes.
Detroit, Montreal, Buffalo…all these teams are so excited they’re in a playoff spot they want to keep it. They want to make a run. The same reason the Leafs overspent their draft capital is exactly why these teams will be eager to do the same.
McMann to EDM for a 1st. Roy to SEA for a 1st. Laughton to BUF for a 1st. Carlo AND OEL to DET for two 1sts. McCabe to UTA for a 1st. Stolarz to MTL for a 1st.
Everybody can and will be sold.
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If Seattle will take Rielly in any way shape or form trade him now. If the Leafs have to pay Vancouver to pay him in order get him to accept it who cares do it, after tonight, it seems doable right now, so just do it.
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If Seattle will take Rielly in any way shape or form trade him now. If the Leafs have to pay Vancouver to pay him in order get him to accept it who cares do it, after tonight, it seems doable right now, so just do it.
The “roomer” from the half ass Hockeybuzz Leafs blogger is that San Jose wants Rielly according to “sauces” that work for the Senatards. No matter how bad a player or their contract is, there seems to always be some dumbass GM out there willing to make a mistake. I don’t think San Jose is actually that stupid because I thought their genius move to grab Askarov showed their plan to build from the net out especially after having a foundation of Smith, Celebrini and Misa as their forward core all still on ELC. I doubt they would ruin that team by adding a D-man that is horrible at playing D. But you never know, they do have Reaves on the DEI roster.
That being said, they have few options available to them and many spots to fill for next year. After this season, the Sharks will have exactly TWO defenders under contract with Klingberg, Liljegren, Ferraro and Desharnais all set to become UFAs. Maybe they bring back Ferraro and one of Desharnais or Liljegren but needless to say, San Jose can fit Rielly under their cap with so many pending UFAs and Couture on the LTIR permanently. The Sharks will have 56 million dollars in cap space for next season looking to sign AT LEAST FOUR NHL defenders. If they view Rielly as a 45-50 point D-man (he still averages 51 points per season the last 5 years) who plays sheltered minutes, maybe they don’t care if it costs them 7.5 AAV with that much space available. And maybe Rielly doesn’t mind moving to the West coast and living near San Fran where he can ride every pride parade float (and pole) he can find.
I’d happily take a mid round pick (3rd rounder?) in return.
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With Thursday’s game quickly approaching, it is with a heavy heart that I must cease support of my love, UGie. I need to separate myself from you for this Olympics. As a Canadian, I am fully in support of our quest for GOLD!!!!
I wish you and your country (Team USA) the best of luck…just not against Mitch and Canada.
Mmmmmaaaarrrrtnnnneeeeerrrrrrr!!!!!!
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With Thursday’s game quickly approaching, it is with a heavy heart that I must cease support of my love, UGie. I need to separate myself from you for this Olympics. As a Canadian, I am fully in support of our quest for GOLD!!!!
I wish you and your country (Team USA) the best of luck…just not against Mitch and Canada.
Mmmmmaaaarrrrtnnnneeeeerrrrrrr!!!!!!
Hell for this even I have to cheer for Mitch!!!
Go Marner Go!!!
GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!!
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So I was reading a blurb on the Leafs and a possible trade partner in the LA Kings.
It was Laughton for Foegele +. If the + is a 1st rnd pick, I’d strongly consider moving him.
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So I was reading a blurb on the Leafs and a possible trade partner in the LA Kings.
It was Laughton for Foegele +. If the + is a 1st rnd pick, I’d strongly consider moving him.
For me, I’d rather move Roy instead of Laughton.
Getting Foegele might/could happen if the Leafs trade McMann. Foegele could be used as replacement for McMann.How much do you think McMann will cost?
Foegele is at about $3.5m, is Mcmann gonna much more than that? If so, ya move him out.
However, if he wants $4m, Id take mcmann over Foegele.But Im not attached to anyone on this team, so move whoever.
Marie-phillip Poullin out against the states
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How much do you think McMann will cost?
Foegele is at about $3.5m, is Mcmann gonna much more than that? If so, ya move him out.
However, if he wants $4m, Id take mcmann over Foegele.But Im not attached to anyone on this team, so move whoever.
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I think he’s a $4.5M cap hit on the open market.
A simular contract as Mason Marchment $4.5M/4yrs-
I think he’s a $4.5M cap hit on the open market.
A simular contract as Mason Marchment $4.5M/4yrsMcMann is going to hit the open market for the first time and he’s 30. He’s only made 3.6 million in his career so far and half of that is gone to taxes. This is his chance to get lifelong security.
With the cap going up and the Leafs sucking balls, he’s going to ask for 5 x 5 from the Leafs. But the cap is going up and there are a lot of teams out there who can afford to overpay so multiple offers brings that number up higher and he most likely goes whomever pays him the most.
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It is funny when douche nozzles that are consistently wrong post ridiculous trade proposals. 4-5 first rounders without moving Nylander or Matthews? If the players were that good then playoffs would be guaranteed.
What is not so funny is the pages and pages of useless drivel we will all have to read when Tre doesn’t get us the 4-5 firsts.
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It is funny when douche nozzles that are consistently wrong post ridiculous trade proposals. 4-5 first rounders without moving Nylander or Matthews? If the players were that good then playoffs would be guaranteed.
What is not so funny is the pages and pages of useless drivel we will all have to read when Tre doesn’t get us the 4-5 firsts.
What’s actually funny is retards who are completely unaware that teams (especially retarded ones like the Leafs) pay through the nose at the deadline.
What did Laughton cost the Leafs? What did Carlo cost the Leafs? What do depth players cost every single fucking year dumbass? They cost more than what they are worth.
So yes, the Leafs could get 4-5 1st round picks. They won’t be lottery picks. They’ll be anywhere from 20th to 32nd because contenders don’t yield lottery picks (unless you’re the retarded Leafs and trade a 1st to Boston and then tank the season).
The players, individually, are very good. The problem is, the combination of players and the entire system they play does not work for the current coach or core players this team has assembled. It’s the same reason Kessel couldn’t make the playoffs with the Leafs but won Stanley Cups with the Penguins.
If you still don’t understand any of that, copy and paste it into Grok and ask it to explain it to you as if you were a 5 year old. Maybe that will help retard.
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McMann is going to hit the open market for the first time and he’s 30. He’s only made 3.6 million in his career so far and half of that is gone to taxes. This is his chance to get lifelong security.
With the cap going up and the Leafs sucking balls, he’s going to ask for 5 x 5 from the Leafs. But the cap is going up and there are a lot of teams out there who can afford to overpay so multiple offers brings that number up higher and he most likely goes whomever pays him the most.[/quote]
you don’t say, eh!
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Sweden vs Italy at the Olympics
Sweden leading the shots 31 to 4 but Gustavsson let two of them in so the game is tied 2-2 😂
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Sweden vs Italy at the Olympics
Sweden leading the shots 31 to 4 but Gustavsson let two of them in so the game is tied 2-2 😂
This is precisely why so many question Canada’s biggest weakness; goaltending. A goalie won’t win you a game but he can lose one. Sweden still shouldn’t lose but it’ll be make their life harder for sure.
If Canada outshoots their opponents 8 to 1, they shouldn’t have a problem. It’s when it boils down to a tight game that it could bite you in the ass.
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This is precisely why so many question Canada’s biggest weakness; goaltending. A goalie won’t win you a game but he can lose one. Sweden still shouldn’t lose but it’ll be make their life harder for sure.
If Canada outshoots their opponents 8 to 1, they shouldn’t have a problem. It’s when it boils down to a tight game that it could bite you in the ass.
Meh, I don’t think any team has remarkable goaltending this time around, not even the US, Winnipeg hasn’t done anything special this year. So since it’s a ? for every team it evens things out in my eyes.
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Meh, I don’t think any team has remarkable goaltending this time around, not even the US, Winnipeg hasn’t done anything special this year. So since it’s a ? for every team it evens things out in my eyes.
Winnipeg fell off a cliff when Hellebuyck got hurt. And their goalie depth is crazy too because they have Oettinger and Swayman.
Finland lost today but their goaltending is better than Canada too, so is Sweden’s. For a hockey program like Canada, they should be top two in goaltending yet they’re probably 4th or 5th if Russia was allowed to play.
Binnington has a great record “under pressure” but he’s one of the worst goalies in the NHL this year. His tournament could end very quickly with one bad performance and there isn’t Brodeur or Belfour to replace him like once upon a time when Cujo got shelled in his first game. There is no Patrick Roy or Carey Price either.
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Winnipeg fell off a cliff when Hellebuyck got hurt. And their goalie depth is crazy too because they have Oettinger and Swayman.
Finland lost today but their goaltending is better than Canada too, so is Sweden’s. For a hockey program like Canada, they should be top two in goaltending yet they’re probably 4th or 5th if Russia was allowed to play.
Binnington has a great record “under pressure” but he’s one of the worst goalies in the NHL this year. His tournament could end very quickly with one bad performance and there isn’t Brodeur or Belfour to replace him like once upon a time when Cujo got shelled in his first game. There is no Patrick Roy or Carey Price either.
Please, Hellebuyck is still nothing more than 13-16-7 so he, as you said, not a goalie who can carry a team.
As for the rest of them sure they might be good, or bad, just like Bennington. I sincerely don’t feel like any of them standout severely enough to give any team a notable advantage so I shrug it off.
As for Russians, I feel bad for the athletes that their government won’t listen to the rest of the world. The Ukraine obviously means more than the Olympics to them *shrugs*
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Please, Hellebuyck is still nothing more than 13-16-7 so he, as you said, not a goalie who can carry a team.
And Binnington is 8-17-6 in 32 starts with an.864 SV% and 3.65 GAA. Worst numbers of any goalie to play at least 32 games. He fucking sucks this year. Thompson should be the starter by merit. And Hellebuyck was the only reason Winnipeg won the President’s Trophy last year so he absolutely did carry his team, his team just sucks to make good use of it.
As for the rest of them sure they might be good, or bad, just like Bennington. I sincerely don’t feel like any of them standout severely enough to give any team a notable advantage so I shrug it off.
No, Binnington is clearly one of the worst starting goalies in the NHL this year. There are other bad teams that have goalies with better numbers. His are atrocious. You shrug it off because you’re biased. Reality is, Hellebuyck (+ Oettinger), Saros and any one of the three Swedish goalies give their team better goaltending than what Binnington has shown this year. It’s a clear, distinct disadvantage. It will be covered up because the Canadian blueline is very strong and their forwards can score 4-5 times a game but it is definitely their biggest disadvantage and clear as day weakness.
As for Russians, I feel bad for the athletes that their government won’t listen to the rest of the world. The Ukraine obviously means more than the Olympics to them *shrugs*
If Russia didn’t sell the EU oil, the Olympics would be played in the dark. Should they boycott oil too? They are actually stupid enough to do that too. Europe buys more oil from Russia than Ukraine receives in financial aid (which pieces of shit like Freeland are embezzling) but won’t let their athletes participate in sports? It’s absolutely retarded. It doesn’t make a single fucking difference. If Russia was there, they’d have 3 of the top 10 goalies in the world. Vasilevskiy, Sorokin and Shesterkin with Bob as #4 and the future Vasilevskiy, Askarov as #5. It wouldn’t even be close to determine which country has the the best goaltending.
Canada once had that type of depth (Brodeur, Roy, Belfour and Joseph all in one generation) but that doesn’t exist anymore.
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Binningtom with a shutout through two periods 😂
Seriously, as I was saying, he’s a good goalie who plays solid as hell with a good team in front of him. No, he’s not the HoFer type who can carry a team but yes, he’s the type who plays really good with a good D.
And study up on Russia UG, the EU stopped buying their oil from them after the Olympic ban, Italy hasn’t bought anything from them since 2023. Primary suppliers are the US and Norway now, kind of one of the reasons I look the other way when it comes to the whole Venezuelan thing lol.
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Binningtom with a shutout through two periods 😂
Seriously, as I was saying, he’s a good goalie who plays solid as hell with a good team in front of him. No, he’s not the HoFer type who can carry a team but yes, he’s the type who plays really good with a good D.
And study up on Russia UG, the EU stopped buying their oil from them after the Olympic ban, Italy hasn’t bought anything from them since 2023. Primary suppliers are the US and Norway now, kind of one of the reasons I look the other way when it comes to the whole Venezuelan thing lol.
If Russia didn’t give the EU oil, the Olympics would be played in the dark. Should they boycott that too?
The EU still brings in billions of dollars of oil and products from Russia, even avoiding sanctions to do so. Your information, as usual, is completely wrong. The entire banning of athletes doesn’t do a damn thing except punish the athletes from competing and making it a truly best on best tournament. Banning athletes never has and never will win a war. It’s just stupidity.
Congrats to Binnington on getting a SO against a bunch of pylons with 5 goals for from the most elite forwards in the world. He could have let in 4 and still won the game. Binnington is well insulated. We’ll see if he still gets shutouts against the actual great teams in the tournament or not.
The facts are the facts. Canada’s biggest weakness is goaltending. The forwards are stacked, the blueline is stacked, the goaltending is the weak spot.
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The EU still brings in billions of dollars of oil and products from Russia, even avoiding sanctions to do so. Your information, as usual, is completely wrong. The entire banning of athletes doesn’t do a damn thing except punish the athletes from competing and making it a truly best on best tournament. Banning athletes never has and never will win a war. It’s just stupidity.
Congrats to Binnington on getting a SO against a bunch of pylons with 5 goals for from the most elite forwards in the world. He could have let in 4 and still won the game. Binnington is well insulated. We’ll see if he still gets shutouts against the actual great teams in the tournament or not.
The facts are the facts. Canada’s biggest weakness is goaltending. The forwards are stacked, the blueline is stacked, the goaltending is the weak spot.
EU oil from Russia 2022 = 27%
EU oil from Russia now = 2-3%Cheers
And fuck off, a shut out is a shut out Mr negative lol. You’re the type of guy who dates a girl who shows up looking 98% hot and all you’ll do is point out the 2% iffy things and then you’ll wonder why you’ll never get laid after buying a nice date an expensive dinner aren’t you? 😘
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EU oil from Russia 2022 = 27%
EU oil from Russia now = 2-3%Cheers
And fuck off, a shut out is a shut out Mr negative lol. You’re the type of guy who dates a girl who shows up looking 98% hot and all you’ll do is point out the 2% iffy things and then you’ll wonder why you’ll never get laid after buying a nice date an expensive dinner aren’t you? 😘
As usual, you don’t know shit. You haven’t accounted for the billions of dollars sold using methods to avoid sanctions such as using a shadow fleet through Greece, Azerbaijan and India. The retards in the EU, like the retards in Canada, want to go all green but none of it works except to steal as much tax payer dollars as possible.
Stick to hockey and not talking about how limp dicked you are like your arguments.
The facts are still the same; banning Russia from hockey doesn’t win a war and Canada’s biggest weakness is goaltending. You’ve done absolutely nothing to prove otherwise.
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King of the retards in here flapping his gums and spewing so much shit from his mouth his asshole is jealous.
Winnington with a shut out – so retard was wrong as usual.
The constant glazing of Helly who has done nothing but crumble in playoffs is a retarded as fuck take – from the king of the retards.
Having to bring politics into a hockey conversation is a total retard move.
Yapping how the Leafs are going to be mulitple first round picks for players he has just shit on non-stop is such a laughable retard move. Pick a lane you moron – maybe ask Gronk to explain it to you like you are a 5 year old retard.
UG just change your name here to Super ‘tard – you’ve earned it 1000 times over by now.
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King of the retards in here flapping his gums and spewing so much shit from his mouth his asshole is jealous.
Winnington with a shut out – so retard was wrong as usual.
The constant glazing of Helly who has done nothing but crumble in playoffs is a retarded as fuck take – from the king of the retards.
Having to bring politics into a hockey conversation is a total retard move.
Yapping how the Leafs are going to be mulitple first round picks for players he has just shit on non-stop is such a laughable retard move. Pick a lane you moron – maybe ask Gronk to explain it to you like you are a 5 year old retard.
UG just change your name here to Super ‘tard – you’ve earned it 1000 times over by now.
RetardRanger right now.
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King of the retards was wrong on so many things he made a blank post!
Good job Super ‘tard, you absolute waste of skin.
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King of the retards was wrong on so many things he made a blank post!
Good job Super ‘tard, you absolute waste of skin.
Retard Ranger too retarded to realize this site is as broken as his room temperature IQ brain.
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King of the retards in here flapping his gums and spewing so much shit from his mouth his asshole is jealous.
Winnington with a shut out – so retard was wrong as usual.
The constant glazing of Helly who has done nothing but crumble in playoffs is a retarded as fuck take – from the king of the retards.
Having to bring politics into a hockey conversation is a total retard move.
Yapping how the Leafs are going to be mulitple first round picks for players he has just shit on non-stop is such a laughable retard move. Pick a lane you moron – maybe ask Gronk to explain it to you like you are a 5 year old retard.
UG just change your name here to Super ‘tard – you’ve earned it 1000 times over by now.
But why would he want Rob Gronkowski to explain it to him, is my question for you Rob.
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King of the retards was wrong on so many things he made a blank post!
Good job Super ‘tard, you absolute waste of skin.
Retard Ranger too retarded to realize this site is as broken as his room temperature IQ brain.
So it’s broken when you can’t figure out how to use it properly but when others had issues you were calling them retards – classic Super ‘Tard logic there.
Holy fuck are you stupid. lol
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So it’s broken when you can’t figure out how to use it properly but when others had issues you were calling them retards – classic Super ‘Tard logic there.
Holy fuck are you stupid. lol
There’s a big difference between not knowing how to click on a quote button that works perfectly fine and the IMG function not accepting links because the site is broken. Just like there’s a big difference in how retarded you are and the average person or how your brain is broken.
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So it’s broken when you can’t figure out how to use it properly but when others had issues you were calling them retards – classic Super ‘Tard logic there.
Holy fuck are you stupid. lol
There’s a big difference between not knowing how to click on a quote button that works perfectly fine and the IMG function not accepting links because the site is broken. Just like there’s a big difference in how retarded you are and the average person or how your brain is broken.
Look at the Super ‘tard back peddle now everyone!
Moving goal posts & being proven wrong over and over again are the only things you excel at in life you retard.
Is it tough living life with a room temperature IQ? Do you have a laminated piece of paper around your neck that reminds you to breathe in and breathe out?
I hope mom brings you your chicken nuggies down in the basement soon you must be getting hungry by now eh bud?
All Hail King of the Retards UGGIE!!!!!!
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Look at the Super ‘tard back peddle now everyone!
Moving goal posts & being proven wrong over and over again are the only things you excel at in life you retard.
Is it tough living life with a room temperature IQ? Do you have a laminated piece of paper around your neck that reminds you to breathe in and breathe out?
I hope mom brings you your chicken nuggies down in the basement soon you must be getting hungry by now eh bud?
All Hail King of the Retards UGGIE!!!!!!
Rage Retard Ranger, rage.
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can’t figure out how to use it properly but when others had issues you were calling them retards – classic Super ‘Tard logic there.
Holy fuck are you stupid. lol
The only one who rages in here is you and your failure to even recognize that is yet another perfect example of how retarded you are.
Dozzer posts facts, you cry and rage.
Your as mentally tough as a bag of milk you vapid incel fucktard.
Sit down and shut up.
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The only one who rages in here is you and your failure to even recognize that is yet another perfect example of how retarded you are.
Dozzer posts facts, you cry and rage.
Your as mentally tough as a bag of milk you vapid incel fucktard.
Sit down and shut up.
The “facts” were refuted with actual facts.
Go go Retard Ranger, Mighty Ragin Retard Rangerrrrrrrrr.
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The only one who rages in here is you and your failure to even recognize that is yet another perfect example of how retarded you are.
Dozzer posts facts, you cry and rage.
Your as mentally tough as a bag of milk you vapid incel fucktard.
Sit down and shut up.
Everyone is so happy here 😂
And don’t worry, I’m not dumb enough to accept a person’s statement as fact. The ultra right/left folk can’t seem to figure that out lol
Anyways GO CANADA GO!!! today! Maybe another shitty goalie will get another shutout? 🤷😘
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power kill for Team Canada.
it failled
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I soooooo hope Denmark holds the lead, they won’t, but I hope they do 😂
lol holy fuck it took my phone forever to reload this page, and now it’s 3-2 US, about what I expected lol
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Steve Sullivan must be running this Canadian PP in secret because it’s so powerful to be anybody else.
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Steve Sullivan must be running this Canadian PP in secret because it’s so powerful to be anybody else.
*post-sex, UG before he even takes the condom off*
“I’m surprised you were effective because your legs need to lose a little weight”
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*post-sex, UG before he even takes the condom off*
“I’m surprised you were effective because your legs need to lose a little weight”
I’m sure you heard me say that to your girlfriend while I gave her the Valentine’s gift you requested (happy to do you a “solid”) but I assure you she refused to allow the use of any condoms because she wanted you to help clean up the mess afterwards. Chunky but freaky girl she is.
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Steve Sullivan must be running this Canadian PP in secret because it’s so powerful to be anybody else.
cause he is One with the Force.
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I’m sure you heard me say that to your girlfriend while I gave her the Valentine’s gift you requested (happy to do you a “solid”) but I assure you she refused to allow the use of any condoms because she wanted you to help clean up the mess afterwards. Chunky but freaky girl she is.
Chunky? lol nope that wasn’t my girl then, mine is hot and actually a former model, hell I keep telling her she must need glasses cause I can’t figure out wtf she sees out of me 😂
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I’m sure you heard me say that to your girlfriend while I gave her the Valentine’s gift you requested (happy to do you a “solid”) but I assure you she refused to allow the use of any condoms because she wanted you to help clean up the mess afterwards. Chunky but freaky girl she is.
Chunky? lol nope that wasn’t my girl then, mine is hot and actually a former model, hell I keep telling her she must need glasses cause I can’t figure out wtf she sees out of me 😂
Fuck he couldn’t even get that right….
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Here’s hoping the US loses to Sweden so they use that as an excuse as to why they couldn’t beat Canada 😘
GO Team Canada GO !!!!!
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Here’s hoping the US loses to Sweden so they use that as an excuse as to why they couldn’t beat Canada 😘
GO Team Canada GO !!!!!
Canada scores first from the kid Celebrini
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Team Canada to the power kill ….
it failed and Team Canada is now down by one
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there are like 6 people who reg post here, its pretty crickets in here all the time.
jeez..if MM could have scored 1 OT goal for the leafs in like 25 games…that would have went a long way
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there are like 6 people who reg post here, its pretty crickets in here all the time.
jeez..if MM could have scored 1 OT goal for the leafs in like 25 games…that would have went a long way
oh wellDirectly contributed to 3 GWGs vs Florida but people like you are too retarded to realize he wasn’t the problem while simultaneously blowing pajama boy Tavares and Nylander who did sweet fuck all vs. Florida after Game 2.
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Where are all the Marner haters?
The Crickets are defining up in here. Interesting.
Great 3 on 3 and PP player……
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Great player……
Fixed for you there retard.
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Lol Mitch Mather is talented as hell but he’s also just as much a whiny ass bitch
And now Nylander will hate his captain on the leafs forever lol, more rebuild motivation 😘
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Lol Mitch Mather is talented as hell but he’s also just as much a whiny ass bitch
You’re just completely wrong about him and can’t see it or admit it. But luckily Team Canada isn’t retarded, can see his value and know he isn’t a whiny ass bitch.
Already provided McDavid with a primary assist in OT to win the 4-Nations, scored an OT GWG 1 on 3. Big game Mitch, bitch.
And now Nylander will hate his captain on the leafs forever lol, more rebuild motivation 😘
Doubt it but Nylander didn’t show up today. He’s injured but has been keeping himself in the lineup to try and show up for Sweden. Now that he’s out, he’ll be done for the year. He’s got nothing left to play for.
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Lol Mitch Mather is talented as hell but he’s also just as much a whiny ass bitch
And now Nylander will hate his captain on the leafs forever lol, more rebuild motivation 😘
If NHL playoff overtime was 3 on 3 Marner would probably be a Leaf legend. 5 on 5 too soft… nothing done in traffic.
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If NHL playoff overtime was 3 on 3 Marner would probably be a Leaf legend. 5 on 5 too soft… nothing done in traffic.
You do realize that Marner literally went into traffic to score today, don’t you? No, you don’t because you’re retarded. Literally walked three guys (1v3), up the middle of the ice. The fucking definition of traffic and went back hand top corner on a goalie that was standing on his head most the game.
The only traffic Nylander got was on his way home, back home without a medal just like he does with the Leafs.
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Brutal SV% for Binnington before he decided with 5 minutes left to stop some pucks.
Lucky Marner won the big game, which retards said would be impossible.
Great win by Canada congrats to you Canucks and great goals by Suzuki and Marner wow.
That being said, UG you have yet again proven what a retard you really are.
Binnington is a huge reason why they won with his saves late and in OT and Marner does what he seemed unable to do in almost a decade of NHL playing time and finally scores a winning goal in a deciding game and you and the other retard come in here as fast as you can to jerk each other off. I mean it was a 3 on 3 OT winner so essentially an all star game gimmick but I guess it shouldn’t surprise anyone that a puck possession winger excelled at that, coming in on the worst players on the opposition team……it shouldn’t.
You can pretend it’s not true but facts don’t care about you or your boyfriend’s feeling.
You should just not bother refuting the claim that Marner consistently choked when he was a Leaf and the chips were down in a playoff series – it’s irefutable if you aren’t a retard and just look at the stats but you won’t. We all know you will trot out your “Marner had more points than” argument and play the deflect game about other big stars who didn’t deliver (which nobody refutes that they also failed by the way).
JT is the only one of the players who were paid like they should be able to score a series clinching goal and actually delivered. With you hatred towards him that fact alone must upset you immensely.
But go ahead and retard on – it’s what your best at.
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Great win by Canada congrats to you Canucks and great goals by Suzuki and Marner wow.
That being said, UG you have yet again proven what a retard you really are.
Binnington is a huge reason why they won with his saves late and in OT and Marner does what he seemed unable to do in almost a decade of NHL playing time and finally scores a winning goal in a deciding game and you and the other retard come in here as fast as you can to jerk each other off. I mean it was a 3 on 3 OT winner so essentially an all star game gimmick but I guess it shouldn’t surprise anyone that a puck possession winger excelled at that, coming in on the worst players on the opposition team……it shouldn’t.
You can pretend it’s not true but facts don’t care about you or your boyfriend’s feeling.
You should just not bother refuting the claim that Marner consistently choked when he was a Leaf and the chips were down in a playoff series – it’s irefutable if you aren’t a retard and just look at the stats but you won’t. We all know you will trot out your “Marner had more points than” argument and play the deflect game about other big stars who didn’t deliver (which nobody refutes that they also failed by the way).
JT is the only one of the players who were paid like they should be able to score a series clinching goal and actually delivered. With you hatred towards him that fact alone must upset you immensely.
But go ahead and retard on – it’s what your best at.
The only thing that is slower than this site, is your brain.
Go go Retard Ranger, Mighty Ragin Retard Rangerrrrrrrr.
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If NHL playoff overtime was 3 on 3 Marner would probably be a Leaf legend. 5 on 5 too soft… nothing done in traffic.
You do realize that Marner literally went into traffic to score today, don’t you? No, you don’t because you’re retarded. Literally walked three guys (1v3), up the middle of the ice. The fucking definition of traffic and went back hand top corner on a goalie that was standing on his head most the game.
The only traffic Nylander got was on his way home, back home without a medal just like he does with the Leafs.
what traffic?
The lane opened up for him and he took it.
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what traffic?
The lane opened up for him and he took it.
Stop exaggeratingAre you fucking blind or just being willfully obtuse as to not admit that Marner did exactly what everybody said he couldn’t do? Or is your definition of traffic absolutely retarded?
I’d post a picture of the traffic but this dog shit website can’t handle it. There were 3 fucking guys he deked out, up the middle of the fucking ice. The lane opened because he made them all look stupid AS HE SKATED DIRECTLY INTO TRAFFIC, got knocked down and still scored backhand cheddar to end the game.
If he had lost the puck, the retard narrative would have been “look at greedy, bitchy, selfish Marner skating into traffic and turning the puck over”.
Instead, he went directly into traffic, beat three guys and scored the game winning OT goal. “Oh, but it wasn’t 5v5” is the claim yet those same people are too retarded to see he went 1v3 and ended the game.
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Are you fucking blind or just being willfully obtuse as to not admit that Marner did exactly what everybody said he couldn’t do? Or is your definition of traffic absolutely retarded?
I’d post a picture of the traffic but this dog shit website can’t handle it. There were 3 fucking guys he deked out, up the middle of the fucking ice. The lane opened because he made them all look stupid AS HE SKATED DIRECTLY INTO TRAFFIC, got knocked down and still scored backhand cheddar to end the game.
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If he had lost the puck, the retard narrative would have been “look at greedy, bitchy, selfish Marner skating into traffic and turning the puck over”.
Instead, he went directly into traffic, beat three guys and scored the game winning OT goal. “Oh, but it wasn’t 5v5” is the claim yet those same people are too retarded to see he went 1v3 and ended the game.[/quote]
If only he did that while wearing a different Maple Leaf on his chest when they needed him the most.
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If only he did that while wearing a different Maple Leaf on his chest when they needed him the most.
If only the Leafs didn’t waste all that cap space on Tavares and destroy the structure of the team.
If only the Leafs didn’t run him out of town.
If only the Leafs weren’t retarded.
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Team Cananda going on the power kill …
it was killed
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Team Canada to the PP!!
damn , a shorty scored on Team Canada
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Team Canada getting a PP.
Time to get on the board for Team Canada.yessssss
Goal !!!!
BOO Yeah !!!!!
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Sitting next to Nylander, Tavares and Matthews who don’t get blamed or run out of town but are currently on one of the worst teams in the NHL while Marner is trusted by Team Canada to win OT games as well as shut town other teams in the last minute to hold a lead.
Somebody fucked up and it was the Leafs, as they usually do. Which is hilarious because their most retarded fans always side with the Leafs and history shows the Leafs are always wrong in the end. 58 year worth.
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Big goal! Let’s go boys- keep pushing!
KMacKinnon with the go ahead GOAL !!!!!!
just after the PP expired !!!!!BOO Fucken YEAH!!!!!!!
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MacKinnon!!!!!! Fuck yes!!!!! ❤️👍❤️👍
it’s being challenged ….
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MacKinnon!!!!!! Fuck yes!!!!! ❤️👍❤️👍
it’s being challenged ….
the goal WILL STAND !!!!!
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Team Canada is headed to the Gold medal game !!!!!
BOO YEAH !!!!!!!
Finland was a tough test, Saros outplayed Binnington but Canada just had too much offensive power to be denied the whole game.
They’ll probably have to do that all over again vs. the USA but the USA has way more push back.
If they play Slovakia, they’ll be shooting against an AHL goalie. So, while Slovakia has overachieved, the USA shouldn’t have a problem with them either.
But anything can happen in a one off elimination game.
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Canada wins, Binnington makes some huge stops late and the village idiot can’t get in here fast enough to find a way to try and cast doubt and set himself up to ‘be right’ if they lose in the Gold medal game and diminish the win.
What a loser you are UG, seriously.
You are the type of guy who could get gifted a car and would complain about the colour.
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Canada wins, Binnington makes some huge stops late and the village idiot can’t get in here fast enough to find a way to try and cast doubt and set himself up to ‘be right’ if they lose in the Gold medal game and diminish the win.
What a loser you are UG, seriously.
You are the type of guy who could get gifted a car and would complain about the colour.
Where were the “huge” saves earlier on in the game? Why did Saros stand on his head while Binnington gave up 2 goals on less than 20 shots?
Time and time again, it’s painfully obvious to anybody except the retards; Binnington is the weakness. The rest of the team has to allow very few shots against and constantly bail him out by being behind against the Czechs and now the Fins. Then he makes two or three saves and then the retards thinks he’s making “huge” saves when his overall SV% was in the .800s.
You’re the type of retard who sits on a bus and thinks he’s driving a Ferrari.
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Well, would you look at that. HUGE semi-final game, everything on the line, win or go home, and our boy Mitchy has two shots on goal and is a ghost all game. $12M well spent. I’m so glad he rejected whatever the Leafs were offering.
Congrats, Mitch, you’re an amazing 3v3 player. Too bad the NHL is never 3v3 when it matters.
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Well, would you look at that. HUGE semi-final game, everything on the line, win or go home, and our boy Mitchy has two shots on goal and is a ghost all game. $12M well spent. I’m so glad he rejected whatever the Leafs were offering.
Congrats, Mitch, you’re an amazing 3v3 player. Too bad the NHL is never 3v3 when it matters.
Where would they be if Marner didn’t bail them out last game? Wouldn’t even be playing for a medal. Who won the game 1v3? Wasn’t Mac. Or Crosby. Or even McDavid. It was Marner.
Where was Marchand vs. Finland? 0 points. Stone? 0 points. Bennett? 0 points. They must all suck balls too, right? Wrong again retard. A lot more goes into winning than just GWG elimination game OT goals like Marner scored.
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Well, would you look at that. HUGE semi-final game, everything on the line, win or go home, and our boy Mitchy has two shots on goal and is a ghost all game. $12M well spent. I’m so glad he rejected whatever the Leafs were offering.
Congrats, Mitch, you’re an amazing 3v3 player. Too bad the NHL is never 3v3 when it matters.
You forgot Rantanen scored a beauty.
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You forgot Rantanen scored a beauty.
Is that the standard now for winning a gold medal because Marner won his gold medal in an elimination game with a 1v3 OT GWG if that’s the case.
Oh…it doesn’t count when Marner did it…it only counts if Rantanen does it against a mediocre goalie and then ends up playing for the Bronze Medal…
Got it…those are the retard rules…
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Different situation. Canada is expected to be a powerhouse at the Olympics. Marner’s goal was spectacular, but it’s a one off game. Of course it did win them a chance to get to the Gold medal game. It’s a lot different playing a 7 game series where you’ve got players that want your scalp. Marner has issues playing in traffic, but freewheeling he’s magnificent. However, that contract wasn’t viable for the Leafs. You can’t pay 3 players max value and be able to build around them. Many forget, he was the player that didn’t pick up his check in overtime of game 7 versus the Bruins. Pasternak blew by him and he just let him go to the net on a dump in. This is what the Leafs Nation remember. They also remember him backing down from the Panthers and the Leafs lose in 7. If Marner had made them eat an elbow or his stick, message would have been sent. Marner is a wonderfully skilled player, made for International hockey. It doesn’t translate into anything close to NHL Playoff calibre. We will see how he does in Lost Wages when the Playoffs begin. Then, you can make an informed decision on him as a playoff performer.
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Different situation. Canada is expected to be a powerhouse at the Olympics. Marner’s goal was spectacular, but it’s a one off game. Of course it did win them a chance to get to the Gold medal game. It’s a lot different playing a 7 game series where you’ve got players that want your scalp.
Wrong. It wasn’t a “one off”. He showed up in OT at the 4 Nations. It’s not that different. Yes, his team is stacked but he’s playing against other players who are also “the best”. OT at the Olympics is an elimination game. It’s win or go home. Your Marner Derangement Syndrome showing.
Marner has issues playing in traffic, but freewheeling he’s magnificent.
Wrong again. He went directly into traffic, 1v3 and won the game. This is a figment of your imagination.
However, that contract wasn’t viable for the Leafs. You can’t pay 3 players max value and be able to build around them.
Another falsehood. The Leafs fucked themselves with Tavares. They fucked themselves with Rielly. They refused to trade Nylander. Every step of the way, the Leafs created the scenario to push Marner out the door. And they were wrong for doing so. It led to nothing but shitty results on the ice.
Many forget, he was the player that didn’t pick up his check in overtime of game 7 versus the Bruins. Pasternak blew by him and he just let him go to the net on a dump in. This is what the Leafs Nation remember.
Falsehood. That’s not at all what happened. Marner wasn’t the one responsible for that goal. Samsonov stayed in his net. Rielly did not get back fast enough. Pasta looped around Marner’s blindside and had more speed than Marner making it impossible for him to be caught from behind. Leafs Nation believes this false narrative as millions of retards believe in the Russiagate Hoax. Guess what? Just because a bunch of retards believe something to be true, doesn’t make it true. It just means a bunch of sheep needed a scapegoat.
They also remember him backing down from the Panthers and the Leafs lose in 7. If Marner had made them eat an elbow or his stick, message would have been sent.
And where was Nylander, Tavares, Rielly and Matthews? Oh, they didn’t do fuck all either? Marner made them eat an elbow or a stick? Now you’re in retard land. If Marner had taken a 5 minute major, the Panthers would have scored 10 goals. You’re acting like the sheep. Stop.
Marner is a wonderfully skilled player, made for International hockey. It doesn’t translate into anything close to NHL Playoff calibre. We will see how he does in Lost Wages when the Playoffs begin. Then, you can make an informed decision on him as a playoff performer.
What does “international” hockey mean? It means fucking nothing this year because the ice is the smallest they’ve ever played on at the Olympics. It’s not “international” hockey.
How will the Leafs be doing in the playoffs this year? Oh right, went from 1st in the division to last and missing the playoffs.
The informed decision has been made; the Leafs lost, Marner won.
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Well, would you look at that. HUGE semi-final game, everything on the line, win or go home, and our boy Mitchy has two shots on goal and is a ghost all game. $12M well spent. I’m so glad he rejected whatever the Leafs were offering.
Congrats, Mitch, you’re an amazing 3v3 player. Too bad the NHL is never 3v3 when it matters.
Where would they be if Marner didn’t bail them out last game? Wouldn’t even be playing for a medal. Who won the game 1v3? Wasn’t Mac. Or Crosby. Or even McDavid. It was Marner.
Where was Marchand vs. Finland? 0 points. Stone? 0 points. Bennett? 0 points. They must all suck balls too, right? Wrong again retard. A lot more goes into winning than just GWG elimination game OT goals like Marner scored.
Wasn’t it his line that tied the game up?
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Wasn’t it his line that tied the game up?
According to retard logic, it doesn’t count, 0 points means he was a ghost who almost got Canada’s goal taken away for goaltender interference.
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upcoming power kill for Team Canada.
it was killed
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upcoming power kill for Team Canada.
it was killed
Happy they fought that off. A good first, yes they’re down a goal but it was a nice one. Just keep it up Canada, those pucks will start to go in 👍
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ok, I just cracked a beer open for the 3rd period.
lol I got up at 7, quickly took care of the morning chores and slammed back a coffee, and flipped to beer at 7:55am
I’ll pay for it, but oh well
GO CANADA GO!!!!
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Where would they be if Marner didn’t bail them out last game? Wouldn’t even be playing for a medal. Who won the game 1v3? Wasn’t Mac. Or Crosby. Or even McDavid. It was Marner.
Where was Marchand vs. Finland? 0 points. Stone? 0 points. Bennett? 0 points. They must all suck balls too, right? Wrong again retard. A lot more goes into winning than just GWG elimination game OT goals like Marner scored.
Holy fuck, I literally said Marner was a great 3v3 player, your ignorance knows no bounds. But I don’t give AF about 3v3 as the Leafs don’t ever play it. If the Olympics continue to have 3v3 OT, hell yeah, I take Mitch on my team every time, but I’m happy the Leafs didn’t overpay for a guy that CONTINUES to disappear in big games. He had ONE great pass today. Oh, he’s good defensively, you say? Matthews had more good defensive plays when it mattered.
Now, my Captain has learned what it takes to win in clutch situations. This will help his career.
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Holy fuck, I literally said Marner was a great 3v3 player, your ignorance knows no bounds. But I don’t give AF about 3v3 as the Leafs don’t ever play it. If the Olympics continue to have 3v3 OT, hell yeah, I take Mitch on my team every time, but I’m happy the Leafs didn’t overpay for a guy that CONTINUES to disappear in big games. He had ONE great pass today. Oh, he’s good defensively, you say? Matthews had more good defensive plays when it mattered.
Now, my Captain has learned what it takes to win in clutch situations. This will help his career.
He’s great at 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, PP and PK because he’s a great player. Your retardation is limitless.
Contitnues? Did he disappear when it was an elimination game vs. Finland? Nope. Took on 3 guys and won the game, 1v3.
He was great defensively, he was trusted in many high danger scenarios and did very well in them.
Using Marner Derangement Syndrome logic on Matthews, he did fucking nothing today. Did not score a goal. Did not win the game. Had an assist on a goal that Boldy did basically everything by himself. Matthews “experience” is no better than what Marner proved by winning in OT vs. Finland and winning in OT vs. the USA at the Four Nations.
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I was told Hellebuyck couldn’t win the big game and Binnington was clutch.
Too many missed chances, failed 5 on 3 PP was the turning point.
Americans earned it. They did it for Johnny Hockey.
We were told by some asshat goalies can’t win games they only lose them. What a goal post shifting idiot.
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We were told by some asshat goalies can’t win games they only lose them. What a goal post shifting idiot.
Hellebuyck did not score 2 goals and win the game by himself today but he was the best goalie in the world today. If Binnington had faced 40+ shots, it could have easily been a 4-1 loss. Binnington was not terrible today but he was the 2nd best goalie. In a closely contested game where Canada outshot the USA almost 2 to 1 for most of the game, having the 2nd best goalie can be the difference between winning 1-0 or losing 2-1 in OT.
The goals Binnington allowed today were the type of goals that historically a Roy, or Brodeur, or Belfour or Price, or even Luongo would have saved. And that was the major weakness on this team and it showed in every elimination game from Czechia to Finland to finally the USA. Had they scored on the 5 on 3 or if MacKinnon could bury an open net, the game is different, yes, but today they needed Binnington to go save for save with Hellebuyck and he was one save too short.
The goal posts haven’t moved at all. Certain retards, like yourself, said Hellebuyck couldn’t win the big game. Today, he made them all look retarded because for the first time in his career, he wasn’t playing behind a complete dog shit team like Winnipeg. Yes, he had to do his fair share of work but he earned the win.
If Hellebuyck gets traded to a team like Carolina, it would be night and day compared to what he has to do now.
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Not a bad showing by the boys here today!!!Completely DOMINATED (like me and you UG Dom/Sub), them just had nobody to finish in big moment.
No excuses but this was a great effort considering Crosby, Morrissey, Marchand, Bennett, Nate were all either not playing due to injury, or not close to 100%.
Plus with my boy Mmmaaaarrrrrnnneeerrrr not in the lineup (not dressed) today also hurt. If Cooper wasn’t so stupid and dressed Mitch today we would’ve won!!!!
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Connor McDavid and Mitch Marner…….Never a bride, only a bridesmaid. Auston showed that he was an elite talent at the Olympics. It’s not all about the goals and big shots, but the 200 foot game and stellar defense. You win with players like that. You don’t win with players who play a fancy game. Case closed!
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Connor McDavid and Mitch Marner…….Never a bride, only a bridesmaid. Auston showed that he was an elite talent at the Olympics. It’s not all about the goals and big shots, but the 200 foot game and stellar defense. You win with players like that. You don’t win with players who play a fancy game. Case closed!
Explain how Marner beat Matthews in the 4-Nations with a game winning primary assist when Matthews didn’t do the same in OT today?
Your logic is complete Marner Derangement Syndrome. It makes no sense. Both players have beat each other in a best on best format with fantastic offensive and defensive contributions. It’s actually more evidence to prove that splitting them up was among the most retarded decisions in the history of the Leafs franchise.
Canada and the USA are two teams that are so closely matched it’s like saying heads will always beat tails.
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I truly wonder how much evidence some need to see to admit Mitchy-poo just doesn’t have it. His stats in big games are truly abysmal. Glad I don’t have to keep hoping he turns it around for next 8 years. The Leafs could not afford to pay him $13M+ per year just HOPING he finds some space in the playoffs to make a sick pass.
Helluva player, just not when it counts.
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I truly wonder how much evidence some need to see to admit Mitchy-poo just doesn’t have it. His stats in big games are truly abysmal. Glad I don’t have to keep hoping he turns it around for next 8 years. The Leafs could not afford to pay him $13M+ per year just HOPING he finds some space in the playoffs to make a sick pass.
Helluva player, just not when it counts.
I truly wonder how much evidence some retards need to ignore before they admit that without Marner the Leafs went from 1st in the division to almost a lottery team for most of the year.
Sure they can “afford” to fill the team up with 3rd line plugs and miss the playoffs (with no 1st round pick to boot).
Certainly counted in the 4-Nations, GWG primary assist in elimination game OT. That 5v5 too by the way since you’re going to bitch about that when he beat Finland 1v3 in OT of an elimination game.
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I truly wonder how much evidence some need to see to admit Mitchy-poo just doesn’t have it. His stats in big games are truly abysmal. Glad I don’t have to keep hoping he turns it around for next 8 years. The Leafs could not afford to pay him $13M+ per year just HOPING he finds some space in the playoffs to make a sick pass.
Helluva player, just not when it counts.
but, but , but he gat 3 assist on the GWGs against Florida …….
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but, but , but he gat 3 assist on the GWGs against Florida …….🤦♂️
It was actually one GWG and two primary assists on GWGs vs Florida.
How many GWGs did Tavares, Rielly and Nylander contribute to vs. Florida again?
Oh right, fucking zero. Unless, of course, you count the GWGs that they helped Florida score with them on the ice. In that case, then it would be a lot more than zero.
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I’m glad that the NHL is soon back. Too many nights to do nothing but talk to the wife. I can only take so much of that and go shovel snow. I’ve seen enough snow. I haven’t seen enough NHL hockey. Treliving better be ready to pull that trigger on McMann…..the next David Clarkson. Say goodbye to Rielly while we’re at it. Retool on the fly and get ready for next year. Let’s see a few Marlies up with the big team to see what we’ve got. Mitch the bitch can show the league his prowess by getting knocked out of the second round. Enjoy your little slug Las Vegas.
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I’m glad that the NHL is soon back. Too many nights to do nothing but talk to the wife. I can only take so much of that and go shovel snow. I’ve seen enough snow. I haven’t seen enough NHL hockey. Treliving better be ready to pull that trigger on McMann…..the next David Clarkson. Say goodbye to Rielly while we’re at it. Retool on the fly and get ready for next year. Let’s see a few Marlies up with the big team to see what we’ve got. Mitch the bitch can show the league his prowess by getting knocked out of the second round. Enjoy your little slug Las Vegas.
Enjoy missing the playoffs with no 1st round pick and a “retool” that turns into the mediocrity of the Phil Kessel era before the quality players, one by one, give up on this franchise and leave it to start all over again.
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I truly wonder how much evidence some need to see to admit Mitchy-poo just doesn’t have it. His stats in big games are truly abysmal. Glad I don’t have to keep hoping he turns it around for next 8 years. The Leafs could not afford to pay him $13M+ per year just HOPING he finds some space in the playoffs to make a sick pass.
Helluva player, just not when it counts.
$13+? Hahahahahahahah
His take home is about $7.5 million in Nevada where the taxation is only 37% and not 53.53% like Ontario. To match it here he would need about $15.5 million. It’s the same reason why Matthews only makes league minimum and gets everything else as a bonus on July 1st while living in Arizona where it’s only 39.5%. The captain will cost a HUGE raise next contract too since teams can only give a maximum of a 60% July 1st bonus now. The league quickly wiped away this loophole for northern US teams and Canadian teams to maintain its focus on building the game in the southern US.
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too bad I have to think about the Leafs again.
I would like them to just trade any players to Edmonton to help Mcdavid win a cup. whoever they think will help.
Just not another stinky US team like Florida-
too bad I have to think about the Leafs again.
I would like them to just trade any players to Edmonton to help Mcdavid win a cup. whoever they think will help.
Just not another stinky US team like Florida
Better stop using the Internet. Invented by the US Department of War.
Stop breathing air too, I heard Americans also breathe it.
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too bad I have to think about the Leafs again.
I would like them to just trade any players to Edmonton to help Mcdavid win a cup. whoever they think will help.
Just not another stinky US team like FloridaGood chance the Panthers will miss playoffs this year, but Tampa looks like a real contender.
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Good chance the Panthers will miss playoffs this year, but Tampa looks like a real contender.
If it were anybody else, like the Leafs, I’d say the Panthers are done for, but this team isn’t your average team.
The core guys of this team were the same guys that manufactured a late season surge that saw them make the playoffs 3 years ago and went all the way to the Cup Finals. That team lost in the Final that year but they came back even stronger to be the back to back, defending Cup Champions who beat McDavid twice.
That team has proven time and time again that they will not quit, they will not give up. They are just now getting healthy and basically had almost two weeks off. Their star players are either Gold or Silver medalists and their goalie wasn’t allowed to participate so I’d wager he absolutely has something to prove.
Tampa Bay is definitely the front runner in the East but this Panther team can’t be counted out until it’s proven otherwise.
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Good chance the Panthers will miss playoffs this year, but Tampa looks like a real contender.
If it were anybody else, like the Leafs, I’d say the Panthers are done for, but this team isn’t your average team.
The core guys of this team were the same guys that manufactured a late season surge that saw them make the playoffs 3 years ago and went all the way to the Cup Finals. That team lost in the Final that year but they came back even stronger to be the back to back, defending Cup Champions who beat McDavid twice.
That team has proven time and time again that they will not quit, they will not give up. They are just now getting healthy and basically had almost two weeks off. Their star players are either Gold or Silver medalists and their goalie wasn’t allowed to participate so I’d wager he absolutely has something to prove.
Tampa Bay is definitely the front runner in the East but this Panther team can’t be counted out until it’s proven otherwise.
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They played too much playoff of hockey for the last few seasons and as result some leaders are injured, including Captain.
Even Tkachuk needs some off time from the hockey. Sure they are great team, but nothing is going to happen this season in my opinion.The two weeks off only benefits them get healthier and rested. Barkov is out right now however he might return soon. The Olympic schedule was still a rest for their Olympians compared to the regular schedule with less games, more down time and less ice time.
Of all the teams the Panthers are chasing, they have the easiest schedule. Boston has the most difficult. I don’t see them winning a Cup, but I’d give them at least a 50% chance of making the playoffs. They are chasing Buffalo and Boston, two teams they can beat down the stretch.
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They played too much playoff of hockey for the last few seasons and as result some leaders are injured, including Captain.
Even Tkachuk needs some off time from the hockey. Sure they are great team, but nothing is going to happen this season in my opinion.The two weeks off only benefits them get healthier and rested. Barkov is out right now however he might return soon. The Olympic schedule was still a rest for their Olympians compared to the regular schedule with less games, more down time and less ice time.
Of all the teams the Panthers are chasing, they have the easiest schedule. Boston has the most difficult. I don’t see them winning a Cup, but I’d give them at least a 50% chance of making the playoffs. They are chasing Buffalo and Boston, two teams they can beat down the stretch.
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We will see it soon, but my feeling the want some good rest more than just playing one round of playoff hockey.
I think their motivation to win a Threepeat will be enough to drive them to at least qualify for the playoffs more than their desire to rest.
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Better stop using the Internet. Invented by the US Department of War.
Stop breathing air too, I heard Americans also breathe it.
seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?
no need to answer that. I don’t actually care.
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I’m fine with Matthews going to the White House to meet the POTUS. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity, NO ONE has the right to judge him for it.
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I’m fine with Matthews going to the White House to meet the POTUS. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity, NO ONE has the right to judge him for it.
A rapist invites you over to a house they believe is theirs and you are fine with going.
Cool.
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I’m fine with Matthews going to the White House to meet the POTUS. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity, NO ONE has the right to judge him for it.
what if you are in your left mind …..
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what if you are in your left mind …..
The women hockey has it correct.The women are wrong, as they usually are. It’s a wonderful moment for their country and instead, they make the political statement of an angry 14 year old. Even if they disagree with the President, show up and have a conversation. Make a difference. Instead, they retreat back to their insulated echo chamber bubble of reinforced Marxist ideals and pretend they’re heroes.
But of course, if it was President Kamala and the men refused to go, they’d all be called masochists, wouldn’t they? Just like when she lost the election the explanation was because America is masochist.
Like with everything else with these radically brainwashed Marxists, the issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution.
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I’m fine with Matthews going to the White House to meet the POTUS. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity, NO ONE has the right to judge him for it.
if a rapist invites you to his house and you are happy to go, who would judge that
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if a rapist invites you to his house and you are happy to go, who would judge that
Since in your retarded TDS mind evidence or a conviction is not required to call somebody a rapist I will now refer to you as a rapist.
How dare you post here as a rapist?! Rapist.
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Since in your retarded TDS mind evidence or a conviction is not required to call somebody a rapist I will now refer to you as a rapist.
How dare you post here as a rapist?! Rapist.
Look I know when someone mentions your boy you get all hot and bothered thinking of him, but him being a rapist is probably the nicest thing you can call him.
all those young hockey players visiting his house is nice for him, but they are all a little too old for him
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Look I know when someone mentions your boy you get all hot and bothered thinking of him, but him being a rapist is probably the nicest thing you can call him.
all those young hockey players visiting his house is nice for him, but they are all a little too old for him
So the “two” part in your name must have been your youngest victim. Must be difficult for you to live as a rapist. It’s okay though, the New York Times once had a wonderful op-ed that pontificates that you’re not a criminal, you’re a victim of a disorder. But still a rapist.
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So the “two” part in your name must have been your youngest victim. Must be difficult for you to live as a rapist. It’s okay though, the New York Times once had a wonderful op-ed that pontificates that you’re not a criminal, you’re a victim of a disorder. But still a rapist.
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even for this guy.. pretty cringy always deflection.
The “deflection” here was you falsely screaming rapist but since that’s your standard rapist, I guess you’re a rapist.
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I was ok with Matthews visiting the White House. But attending the State of the (dis)Union Address is another matter entirely. That is a political event. Attending as a guest of the president is condoning his entire agenda. Including the desire to make Canada the 51st state.
No bueno, Auston.
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I was ok with Matthews visiting the White House. But attending the State of the (dis)Union Address is another matter entirely. That is a political event. Attending as a guest of the president is condoning his entire agenda. Including the desire to make Canada the 51st state.
No bueno, Auston.
If he had gone to the State of the Union, he would have been in attendance to a historic moment. It is a political event but it was a moment of great achievement for his country on multiple levels.
The “agenda” is working. Even bullshit media like CNN had a poll that said 64% of people agreed with the speech which was an increase of 10% from before the speech. The only people screeching about his agenda are the indoctrinated retards who can’t see they’re being lied to and robbed.
If Canada became the 51st state, it would be greatest day in the history of the country. Having the right to free speech, right to self-defense, secure borders, natural resources would be unleashed, the economy would boom, defense would be fantastic and absolutely every Canadian would greatly benefit from it. Plus the hockey team would be unbeatable.
Canada’s history comes from being a bitch to the British and the French. Now they are setting course to be a bitch of India and China with open borders to 3rd world problems and Marxism. They picked the wrong team. It’s time to correct that mistake. Boomers are too busy ramming their elbows up their ass to realize what kind of opportunity they’re shitting on to the detriment of their children and their grandchildren.
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I was ok with Matthews visiting the White House. But attending the State of the (dis)Union Address is another matter entirely. That is a political event. Attending as a guest of the president is condoning his entire agenda. Including the desire to make Canada the 51st state.
No bueno, Auston.
Okay, I’ll bite. How is attending supporting his entire agenda? There is no politician alive that has 100% support from any sane person. Especially in the US where you only have two options, I bet there are plenty of people on either side that don’t fully support every decision made by their side.
How fucking insane is this?!? Trump asked lawmakers to stand if they agreed with the principle that “the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens”. Of course, every Republican stood, and most Dems did not. If you’ve been a tax paying, upstanding citizen for decades, and your elected leaders (whose salaries you fucking pay for) won’t stand for you before people that are in the country illegally, I don’t even know what to say. Utter insanity.
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Okay, I’ll bite. How is attending supporting his entire agenda? There is no politician alive that has 100% support from any sane person. Especially in the US where you only have two options, I bet there are plenty of people on either side that don’t fully support every decision made by their side.
How fucking insane is this?!? Trump asked lawmakers to stand if they agreed with the principle that “the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens”. Of course, every Republican stood, and most Dems did not. If you’ve been a tax paying, upstanding citizen for decades, and your elected leaders (whose salaries you fucking pay for) won’t stand for you before people that are in the country illegally, I don’t even know what to say. Utter insanity.
You are absolutely correct. Bravo.
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Okay, I’ll bite. How is attending supporting his entire agenda? There is no politician alive that has 100% support from any sane person. Especially in the US where you only have two options, I bet there are plenty of people on either side that don’t fully support every decision made by their side.
How fucking insane is this?!? Trump asked lawmakers to stand if they agreed with the principle that “the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens”. Of course, every Republican stood, and most Dems did not. If you’ve been a tax paying, upstanding citizen for decades, and your elected leaders (whose salaries you fucking pay for) won’t stand for you before people that are in the country illegally, I don’t even know what to say. Utter insanity.
the whole thing is complete bullshit, the question is a red herring. keep pitting left vs right, its all they want to keep the dummies in line. everyone falls for it..the illegals are the problem. the poors are the problem
just my opinion, how can any decent person with all thats been seen in the files (the worst is yet to come) even support any of them?
anyway keep fighting left vs right…that will fix things
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the whole thing is complete bullshit, the question is a red herring. keep pitting left vs right, its all they want to keep the dummies in line. everyone falls for it..the illegals are the problem. the poors are the problem
just my opinion, how can any decent person with all thats been seen in the files (the worst is yet to come) even support any of them?
anyway keep fighting left vs right…that will fix things
You say “pitting left vs. right” yet you believe all the horseshit the left manufactures every day. The illegals are definitely a problem. The left use to recognize that before they got compromised by big Marxist interests. They learned to win elections you flood the country and give everybody free money. They only care about power and have become devoid of principles.
The “files” are worse for the left. The “worst is yet to come” is more leftist bullshit you believe. Just like Russiagate. Or any of the other “this is the one that’s going to take him down” horseshit media narratives that never worked.
Keep pretending you’re “in the middle” while believing leftist lies.
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Mitch Marner 17:45 of ice time in the gold medal game.
0 goals, 0 assists, 0 SOG and was even in +/-
I guess the whole narrative about him being Canda’s hero was pure and utter bullshit from losers who simply refuse to acknowledge that Marner isn’t the 2nd coming of Christ on skates.
Most of us were not surprised Marner was a no-show, this is who he is more often than not when the pressure gets heavy and the game does too.
The game was fast and physical & he became the wallflower that he is when the game gets that way.
And to those it applies to you can fuck all the way off with the constant whataboutisms regardless of it’s about the Leafs or Team Canada.
Nobody has shit the bed like Marner when it’s games 5,6 or 7 in a playoff series for nearly a decade when you factor in what he was paid to do by the Leafs vs what he did (or didn’t) do. Now we can add in Gold Medal game – great.
Others have failed miserably from the Leafs core (and from Team Canada) it’s factual and 99% of the Leaf fanbase knows it but nobody to the degree that greedy Mitch did over and over and over again.
Maybe that will change in Vegas, maybe not but let’s also not forget Marner was offered a contract to stay in Toronto and left on his own.
The constant cope claim that Marner left because the big bad media or fans were mean to him is pathetic. IF that’s the case he needs to grow the fuck up, that excuse is almost worse than just wanting to go try playing somewhere new & would make him soft as baby shit on AND OFF the ice.
I’d rather the Leafs miss the playoffs this year and do a re-jig for next year vs have made the playoffs and then got bounced in the 1st round again due to the same soft core led by a few including Marner. Someone had to go – Marner decided on his own it would be him after he veto’d the trade to the Canes it is what it is.
Most sane people knew this year would be a step back for the Leafs, it’s been worse than most predicted as have the Leafs injuries including losing huge chunks of their D core for long periods of time as well as one of their top 2 goalies for long chunks of time.
Game night and I will be cheering for a big Leaf win and a step towards making the playoffs.
GLG
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Mitch Marner 17:45 of ice time in the gold medal game.
0 goals, 0 assists, 0 SOG and was even in +/-
I guess the whole narrative about him being Canda’s hero was pure and utter bullshit from losers who simply refuse to acknowledge that Marner isn’t the 2nd coming of Christ on skates.
Most of us were not surprised Marner was a no-show, this is who he is more often than not when the pressure gets heavy and the game does too.
The game was fast and physical & he became the wallflower that he is when the game gets that way.
And to those it applies to you can fuck all the way off with the constant whataboutisms regardless of it’s about the Leafs or Team Canada.
Nobody has shit the bed like Marner when it’s games 5,6 or 7 in a playoff series for nearly a decade when you factor in what he was paid to do by the Leafs vs what he did (or didn’t) do. Now we can add in Gold Medal game – great.
Others have failed miserably from the Leafs core (and from Team Canada) it’s factual and 99% of the Leaf fanbase knows it but nobody to the degree that greedy Mitch did over and over and over again.
Maybe that will change in Vegas, maybe not but let’s also not forget Marner was offered a contract to stay in Toronto and left on his own.
The constant cope claim that Marner left because the big bad media or fans were mean to him is pathetic. IF that’s the case he needs to grow the fuck up, that excuse is almost worse than just wanting to go try playing somewhere new & would make him soft as baby shit on AND OFF the ice.
I’d rather the Leafs miss the playoffs this year and do a re-jig for next year vs have made the playoffs and then got bounced in the 1st round again due to the same soft core led by a few including Marner. Someone had to go – Marner decided on his own it would be him after he veto’d the trade to the Canes it is what it is.
Most sane people knew this year would be a step back for the Leafs, it’s been worse than most predicted as have the Leafs injuries including losing huge chunks of their D core for long periods of time as well as one of their top 2 goalies for long chunks of time.
Game night and I will be cheering for a big Leaf win and a step towards making the playoffs.
GLG
McDavid, 0 goals, 0 points, -2. Same for MacKinnon. and Celebrini. And Marchand. And Bennett. But none of these guys disappear. Only Marner. This is your retard logic on full display.
This entire diatribe is full of shit. This idea that “Marner doesn’t show up” in big games is a giant lie from hater retards like yourself trying to soothe yourself of the bad feelings of him finally telling the shitty retard fans of Toronto like you and the idiots that run the franchise to fuck off.
In 5v5 OT vs the USA at the Four Nations, who was feeding McDavid the puck to win the game? Marner. In do or die vs. Finland, who won the game in TO. Marner.
Canada lost the Gold Medal game because MacKinnon can’t hit an open net. Makar also underperformed and threw the game away in OT with an idiotic pinch and lazy back check. Celebrini, as good as he was early in the tournament, misfired in the end. Cooper refused to create a different enough combination of players when things were clearly not working as planned.
If Marner had played more regular shifts with McDavid, especially on the 5v3 PP or in OT, Canada wins that game because Marner would draw the defense and let McDavid shoot, which is what won them the 4-Nations. Instead, McDavid kept drawing the defense and created chances for MacKinnon who couldn’t score on open nets. Instead, Cooper kept going back to MacKinnon and Celebrini despite them obviously having a bad game.
What did Matthews do to win the Gold? Barely anything. Yet you’ll pretend he carried Team USA to gold while sit there and cry about Marner meanwhile the majority of the team, including MacKinnon, Celebrini, McDavid etc. had 0 goals and 0 points.
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the whole thing is complete bullshit, the question is a red herring. keep pitting left vs right, its all they want to keep the dummies in line. everyone falls for it..the illegals are the problem. the poors are the problem
just my opinion, how can any decent person with all thats been seen in the files (the worst is yet to come) even support any of them?
anyway keep fighting left vs right…that will fix things
This is where I’m at, 1000%. No politician is in it to improve things. They are ALL in it to enrich/advance themselves. How about we get back to the point where they work for us?
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This is where I’m at, 1000%. No politician is in it to improve things. They are ALL in it to enrich/advance themselves. How about we get back to the point where they work for us?
That’s not entirely true. Most politicians, yes, they are there to rape the system. But there is always a lesser of many other evils. This is why parties like Restore Britain are created in the UK and why Trump won two elections. His policies are there to restore the country to what it should be after decades of democrat and war hawk decay.
You will never get back to having the politicians “work for the people” in Chinada because this place is already locked down and compromised by Marxism. Anybody who tries to defy that and pushes back is labeled a fascist. People who hit the streets to protest the draconian lockdowns were shutdown with an unlawful invocation of the Emergencies Act. And none of the people who invoked it were punished. Zero accountability. Instead, regular Canadians were arrested, imprisoned, had their bank accounts frozen and were treated like domestic terrorists because the government runs the media and controls the narrative.
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Mitch Marner 17:45 of ice time in the gold medal game.
0 goals, 0 assists, 0 SOG and was even in +/-
I guess the whole narrative about him being Canda’s hero was pure and utter bullshit from losers who simply refuse to acknowledge that Marner isn’t the 2nd coming of Christ on skates.
Most of us were not surprised Marner was a no-show, this is who he is more often than not when the pressure gets heavy and the game does too.
The game was fast and physical & he became the wallflower that he is when the game gets that way.
And to those it applies to you can fuck all the way off with the constant whataboutisms regardless of it’s about the Leafs or Team Canada.
Nobody has shit the bed like Marner when it’s games 5,6 or 7 in a playoff series for nearly a decade when you factor in what he was paid to do by the Leafs vs what he did (or didn’t) do. Now we can add in Gold Medal game – great.
Others have failed miserably from the Leafs core (and from Team Canada) it’s factual and 99% of the Leaf fanbase knows it but nobody to the degree that greedy Mitch did over and over and over again.
Maybe that will change in Vegas, maybe not but let’s also not forget Marner was offered a contract to stay in Toronto and left on his own.
The constant cope claim that Marner left because the big bad media or fans were mean to him is pathetic. IF that’s the case he needs to grow the fuck up, that excuse is almost worse than just wanting to go try playing somewhere new & would make him soft as baby shit on AND OFF the ice.
I’d rather the Leafs miss the playoffs this year and do a re-jig for next year vs have made the playoffs and then got bounced in the 1st round again due to the same soft core led by a few including Marner. Someone had to go – Marner decided on his own it would be him after he veto’d the trade to the Canes it is what it is.
Most sane people knew this year would be a step back for the Leafs, it’s been worse than most predicted as have the Leafs injuries including losing huge chunks of their D core for long periods of time as well as one of their top 2 goalies for long chunks of time.
Game night and I will be cheering for a big Leaf win and a step towards making the playoffs.
GLG
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down by 2 now.
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power kill for the Leafs gives Tampa the opportunity to extend their Lead over the Leafs.
yup, this again
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Why is this organization without fail, no matter who is leading it, so cringe inducingly embarrassing??
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Sell everything
start selling them now before player(s) get hurt
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Sell everything
makes sense. then I realize its (non) Trader Brad who got this team in this mess. and now we expect him to sell off pieces and get good returns.
Hey at Least Dubas has been active and improving the Pens. everything is great
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Was it too many words for you to read AA you incel fuckwit?
If you don’t like it skip past and and move on to your jerkfest with your Mitchell Marner poster, let’s not pretend that you were just upset by all the facts about Marner that were 100% accurate.
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I agree with Dozzer and others it’s probably time to sell now.
Leafs video review team put forth the best performance of anyone on the team last night. Sadly that’s not gong to win you many games, lol.
That being said for those who like to look forward all is not lost, teams have missed the playoffs and come back to win the cup the following year.
Most recently Vegas (missed in 2022 and won the Cup in 2023) and St. Louis (missed in 2018 and won in 2019 (after having a terrible first half of the season).
There are some other notables like Carolina 2004 miss, 2005 cancelled season 2006 Cup, Rangers 93/94 and Pens 90/91 (and another cup in 92), Habs 70/71
It’s not impossible & I don’t subscribe to the blow it up / burn it to the ground and start again theory.
GLG
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Was it too many words for you to read AA you incel fuckwit?
If you don’t like it skip past and and move on to your jerkfest with your Mitchell Marner poster, let’s not pretend that you were just upset by all the facts about Marner that were 100% accurate.[/quote]
I’m not AA. Don’t tell me or anyone what to do here. You are not a moderator. When you were a mod at HB, you showed everyone exactly who you are. Power-hungry, divisive, spiteful and crass. Typical of someone who had never, ever held any kind of position of authority. The exact opposite of how a fair moderator should conduct themselves.
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Was it too many words for you to read AA you incel fuckwit?
If you don’t like it skip past and and move on to your jerkfest with your Mitchell Marner poster, let’s not pretend that you were just upset by all the facts about Marner that were 100% accurate.
I’m not AA. Don’t tell me or anyone what to do here. You are not a moderator. When you were a mod at HB, you showed everyone exactly who you are. Power-hungry, divisive, spiteful and crass. Typical of someone who had never, ever held any kind of position of authority. The exact opposite of how a fair moderator should conduct themselves.[/quote]
Oh ok you are not AA….riiiiiiight.
I guess you forgot when you actually posted under this username that you were, good god your stupid.
Stick to fishing and playing with yourself while looking at your Marner poster.
The mere fact you have come to this board, created Alts to pretend to be other posters from HB tells me and everyone else what type of person you are and what your about.
Keep making shit up and pretending to be something and someone your not though, whatever gets you through your pathetic life.
Troll on loser.
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I agree with Dozzer and others it’s probably time to sell now.
Leafs video review team put forth the best performance of anyone on the team last night. Sadly that’s not gong to win you many games, lol.
That being said for those who like to look forward all is not lost, teams have missed the playoffs and come back to win the cup the following year.
Most recently Vegas (missed in 2022 and won the Cup in 2023) and St. Louis (missed in 2018 and won in 2019 (after having a terrible first half of the season).
There are some other notables like Carolina 2004 miss, 2005 cancelled season 2006 Cup, Rangers 93/94 and Pens 90/91 (and another cup in 92), Habs 70/71
It’s not impossible & I don’t subscribe to the blow it up / burn it to the ground and start again theory.
GLG
Yup, be honest, say oooops where oooops needs to be said, sell it the fuck off now and get whatever you can for it, and rebuild with the missing types of talent that are far more clear now.
Otherwise, abandon this core totally, say a complete and total fuck it, sell everything and go back into a full rebuild.
Those are the two choices this year. Going after the playoffs is a waste of time, they won’t win in them even if they somehow make it.
GLG indeed, so long as they make a decent moving forward choice I guess *shrugs*
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The Toronto Star and Damien “sucks” Cox can fuck all the way off. What a bullshit article he wrote, and I 1000% wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another in a long list of things that drives AM34 out of the city. (Coincidentally, I will admit that the fan treatment of Marner is another, although I still 100% think that needed to be done).
Fuck this bullshit that he chose politics over playoffs. The guys just lead his team to Olympic gold for the first time in 40 years, hell yeah he should go to the White House. He didn’t even go to the SOTU, and still played last night. But, bullshit legacy media can’t miss the opportunity to make everything political.
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The Toronto Star and Damien “sucks” Cox can fuck all the way off. What a bullshit article he wrote, and I 1000% wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another in a long list of things that drives AM34 out of the city. (Coincidentally, I will admit that the fan treatment of Marner is another, although I still 100% think that needed to be done).
Fuck this bullshit that he chose politics over playoffs. The guys just lead his team to Olympic gold for the first time in 40 years, hell yeah he should go to the White House. He didn’t even go to the SOTU, and still played last night. But, bullshit legacy media can’t miss the opportunity to make everything political.
You can’t hate media enough, especially Canadian’s one.
It is not anyone business where Auston went to celebrate, SOTU or White House.
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The Toronto Star and Damien “sucks” Cox can fuck all the way off. What a bullshit article he wrote, and I 1000% wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another in a long list of things that drives AM34 out of the city. (Coincidentally, I will admit that the fan treatment of Marner is another, although I still 100% think that needed to be done).
Fuck this bullshit that he chose politics over playoffs. The guys just lead his team to Olympic gold for the first time in 40 years, hell yeah he should go to the White House. He didn’t even go to the SOTU, and still played last night. But, bullshit legacy media can’t miss the opportunity to make everything political.
Yep, not to mention the loser know it all fans including a poster on here. Makes it a difficult market to play in. Now we get to spend the next month or two complaining about the lack of returns we get on all the players that are not good enough to get the Leafs into the playoffs but should get us a pile of 1st round picks and or top end prospects.
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They quit on Craig a long time ago. Now they are grinding salt into the wound. Disinterested play. Zero compete.
The only question is who is the next coach they are going to quit on after one season.
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I don’t think the shot clock for the Leafs is correct.
Only 2 shot Bob.Leafs to the PP
Oh it’s correct.
Is this the “playoff push” Keith Pelley was talking about??
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Another classic Nylander moment on the shortie. This team fucking SUCKS.
(But…it is such a difficult market to play in)
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Another classic Nylander moment on the shortie. This team fucking SUCKS.
(But…it is such a difficult market to play in)
They don’t look engaged in the game as MJ said “They look tired”
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I don’t think the shot clock for the Leafs is correct.
Only 2 shot Bob.Leafs to the PP
Oh it’s correct.
Is this the “playoff push” Keith Pelley was talking about??
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Alex Sosa could send them a mountain of Bolivia’s best, wouldn’t make a difference. Fat Lady is singing, can you hear it?
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Leafs to the PP.
FINALLY A PP GOAL!!!!!!!
by JT
BOO Yeah !!!
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The trading can’t start soon enough
But guys this is such a difficult market market to play in because of the media and the fans and stuff!
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The trading can’t start soon enough
I don’t think we will see any significant trades.
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I don’t think we will see any significant trades.
The fans want team to sell players, but organization wants to sell tickets.
The fans thinking it can’t get worse, but bosses thinking it can go worse and they are not completely wrong.Yup, they’ll shuffle around a few minor pieces and then come up with a plan in the summer. Biggest piece to move may be OEL, but I hope they keep him.
Berube is done. The team quit on him and he quit on the team. Tre likely not far behind him. Get Deboer behind the bench, not sure who is the GM target.
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The Toronto Star and Damien “sucks” Cox can fuck all the way off. What a bullshit article he wrote, and I 1000% wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another in a long list of things that drives AM34 out of the city. (Coincidentally, I will admit that the fan treatment of Marner is another, although I still 100% think that needed to be done).
Fuck this bullshit that he chose politics over playoffs. The guys just lead his team to Olympic gold for the first time in 40 years, hell yeah he should go to the White House. He didn’t even go to the SOTU, and still played last night. But, bullshit legacy media can’t miss the opportunity to make everything political.
He’s stuck in traditional, corporate, boomer media. The only people who read his slop are elbows up retards. It’s the same retards who watch the CBC. It’s just slop for the boomers because they’re the only people left watching that garbage.
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Yup, they’ll shuffle around a few minor pieces and then come up with a plan in the summer. Biggest piece to move may be OEL, but I hope they keep him.
Berube is done. The team quit on him and he quit on the team. Tre likely not far behind him. Get Deboer behind the bench, not sure who is the GM target.
DeBoer will get a lot more out of this team offensively but he’s the most Leafy coach out there. He’s the guy that goes to the Finals and loses. Every. Single. Time. Either the Conference Finals or the Cup Finals. On Team Canada? Silver. He is the master runner up coach.
He’s perfect for what the idiots in the board room wants though.
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DeBoer will get a lot more out of this team offensively but he’s the most Leafy coach out there. He’s the guy that goes to the Finals and loses. Every. Single. Time. Either the Conference Finals or the Cup Finals. On Team Canada? Silver. He is the master runner up coach.
He’s perfect for what the idiots in the board room wants though.
In addition to this, DeBoer was also drafted by the Leafs, 237th overall in the 1988 draft; one of the worst draft years for the Leafs in terms of missed opportunities.
Look at this disaster of a draft by Gord Stellick, a legendary retard of failed Leafs GMs. He was Dubas before Dubas.
Leafs draft Scott Pearson 6th overall, before…Martin Gelinas, Jeremy Roenick, Rod Brind’Amour, Teemu Selanne all going 7th to 10th. Franchise destroying bad pick.
Leafs draft Tie Domi 27th overall. Probably the only good pick in 1988 for the Leafs.
Leafs draft Peter Ing 48th overall. Mark Recchi and Tony Amonte went 67th and 68th.
Leafs draft Ted Crowley 69th overall. Rob Blake went 70th overall.
Leafs draft Len Esau 86th overall. Alexander Mogilny went 89th overall.1989 was just as bad when the Leafs took three 1st round picks at 3rd, 12th and 21st overall and selected Scott Thornton, Rob Pearson and Steve Bancroft with players like Bill Guerin taken 5th, Bobby Holik taken 10th, Olaf Kolzig taken 19th and Adam Foote taken 22nd.
Imagine the 1992/1993 run if the Leafs knew how to draft prior to bringing in Gilmour and Andreychuck…
Clark | Gilmour | Mogilny
Andreychuck | Roenick | Recchi
Osborne | Holik | Foligno
Berg | Zezel | DomiGill | Blake
Ellett | Foote
Macoun | RousePotvin | Kolzig
What a difference two drafts (even one) can make because that’s a Cup winner at worst, a dynasty at best right there.
But anyway, of course DeBoer was traded in 1989 for Paul Lawless (played 13 games for the Leafs) and never played a game for the Leafs or anybody else.
It would become the perfect PR narrative to create of the prodigal hometown son. He’ll tell everybody how all these years he’s been working so that one day he could return to where it all began and bring the Stanley Cup home. They’ll have a picture of him in his Maple Leafs tube socks. Keith Pelley will have a marketing field day. And most retards in this market will buy it hook, line and sinker.
Sell everybody. Draft high, draft often and draft well. Learn from the mistakes of the past.
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The trading can’t start soon enough
I don’t think we will see any significant trades.
The fans want team to sell players, but organization wants to sell tickets.
The fans thinking it can’t get worse, but bosses thinking it can go worse and they are not completely wrong.They will need some trading partners to move players.
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They will need some trading partners to move players.
It doesn’t sound like teams are lining up for a few Leafs players availableit will be, Team X trades old shitty player past prime adding no value for a 1st, 3rd and prospect.
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So glad I’ve havent wasted much if any time on watching the leafs (highlights only once in a while), just a sad team.
Even the past 2 years, the team was difficult to watch at times (although last reg season was entertaining)Im sure Tre will get nothing much for McMann, Laughton, Domi and Macelli…but they need to be moved out.
Off season:
Get a new GM
Get a new coachRepeat the same results.
The decades a failure and incompetence continues.
Lets get the Jays season going!
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So glad I’ve havent wasted much if any time on watching the leafs (highlights only once in a while), just a sad team.
Even the past 2 years, the team was difficult to watch at times (although last reg season was entertaining)Im sure Tre will get nothing much for McMann, Laughton, Domi and Macelli…but they need to be moved out.
Off season:
Get a new GM
Get a new coachRepeat the same results.
The decades a failure and incompetence continues.
Lets get the Jays season going!
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Literally, at this point, why not just put Morgan on the fucking wing?!? Worst contract imaginable, and he isn’t going anywhere.
Legit, I move Matthews. He’s probably walking after the media inexplicably turned on him, simply for being a proud American. He’d get a haul. Willy isn’t waiving. JT is not going anywhere. You gotta do something to change the culture on this team.
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Literally, at this point, why not just put Morgan on the fucking wing?!? Worst contract imaginable, and he isn’t going anywhere.
Legit, I move Matthews. He’s probably walking after the media inexplicably turned on him, simply for being a proud American. He’d get a haul. Willy isn’t waiving. JT is not going anywhere. You gotta do something to change the culture on this team.
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Only 2 shot Bob.Leafs to the PP
Oh it’s correct.
Is this the “playoff push” Keith Pelley was talking about??
If you do not think there is more pressure playing in a market like Toronto or Montreal well…..
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Going to the game tomorrow vs Sens, some company taking me there, platinum seats…
sorry to hear that, hope your day gets better
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The trading can’t start soon enough
But guys this is such a difficult market market to play in because of the media and the fans and stuff!
I saw it the first time asshole. You trying to take over from UG as the biggest prick on this board?
There are plenty of people that know a fuck lot more about hockey than either you or me that have stated this before. There are plenty of great hockey players that have also said they would never play in Toronto for these reasons. But you do you and keep on being a miserable cunt.
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There are plenty of people that know a fuck lot more about hockey than either you or me that have stated this before. There are plenty of great hockey players that have also said they would never play in Toronto for these reasons. But you do you and keep on being a miserable cunt.[/quote]
And not only this, the arena is dead quiet most of the time, people are not engaged enough.
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Literally, at this point, why not just put Morgan on the fucking wing?!? Worst contract imaginable, and he isn’t going anywhere.
Legit, I move Matthews. He’s probably walking after the media inexplicably turned on him, simply for being a proud American. He’d get a haul. Willy isn’t waiving. JT is not going anywhere. You gotta do something to change the culture on this team.
If Matthews is traded, all the rats flee the sinking ship including Nylander and Tavares. Everyone will waive because nobody wants to play on a losing team in the twilight of their career.
And the Leafs would get a giant haul of draft picks and prospects to ignite the rebuild.
Problem is you have to fire Treliving to get the job done properly and it looks like Pelley is also a retard who might impede a proper rebuild.
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Going to the game tomorrow vs Sens, some company taking me there, platinum seats…
Does this company hate you or something?!?
My condolences, hopefully it’s more like a celebration of life vs a funeral.
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Going to the game tomorrow vs Sens, some company taking me there, platinum seats…
sorry to hear that, hope your day gets better
Darn, I replied before I was caught up on the thread:)
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Going to the game tomorrow vs Sens, some company taking me there, platinum seats…
Does this company hate you or something?!?
My condolences, hopefully it’s more like a celebration of life vs a funeral.
LOL. It is ok, I will have a good company of guys there, we have something to talk about beyond hockey.
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Deep breaths, ribs. I can see you really struggle with this difference of opinion stuff. Straight to the personal attacks! It’s ok, relax, I’m rarely here. ” />
Yeah I am ok with a difference of opinion. Just not smug miserable people repeating it 3 times. That seems more like mocking than an opinion, but carry on.
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They will need some trading partners to move players.
It doesn’t sound like teams are lining up for a few Leafs players availableThere are plenty of trading partners. Desperate contenders and pretenders always overpay.
To Montreal: Roy for a 1st round pick. Another Frenchman for playoff depth.
To Detroit: OEL for a 1st round pick. Swedes love Detroit, plus they need another experienced point producer on the blueline. Carlo could also go to Detroit for a 1st.
To Buffalo or Minnesota: Roy and/or Laughton for a 1st round pick. Both are the worst two teams in the NHL at FOs. Both want to make a playoff push.
To Edmonton: McMann for a 1st round pick. Hometown kid, plays with speed, they need the added scoring depth when McDavid gets swarmed.
To Utah: Stolarz for Vanacek and a 2nd round pick. Or to Carolina for Kochetkov and a 2nd round pick. Both teams need a viable back-up, 1A.
To Dallas: Robertson and Carlo for Lundkvist and 1st round pick. Dallas needs another RHD for depth and depth scoring.That’s legit potential for four or five 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick and a young RHD.
Then at the next draft, you trade Matthews. After that, Nylander, Rielly and Tavares will all want out after Matthews is moved. That’s another four 1st round picks and two top prospects for Matthews and Nylander. Tavares might get you a 1st round pick. Rielly is just a straight up dump.
The problem is the king retard Pelley doesn’t want to sell or rebuild. He thinks they can still make the playoffs. And Treliving, being the idiot that he is, won’t make good deals with this abomination of a season being proof of what kind of dumbass deals he made in the past 18 months.
This team is fucked from the top down, just like the country.
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Yeah I am ok with a difference of opinion.
Absolute bullshit. The only thing you have a bigger problem accepting than a difference opinion is accepting reality.
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Yeah I am ok with a difference of opinion.
Absolute bullshit. The only thing you have a bigger problem accepting than a difference opinion is accepting reality.
Yah I don’t argue with many on here, but you do with pretty much everybody. Too stupid to realize you have almost single handedly ruined two sites, yet constantly calling people retards for their opinions. I have never before witnessed anyone as disrespectful of others as you constantly are. So tired of keyboard warriors like you who if ever got out of their mom’s basement and treated people like this in person would live a very painful life. But keep being a dick, and moving the goalposts.
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it was killed !!! 👍
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come on Tre .. pull the trigger …… with Edmonton ….
Send McMann (50% retained) to LA for LA’s 2nd in 2026 and CBJ’s 2nd in 2026.
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Ok Nylander get a Goal !!!!
BOO Yeah …
down by one …
two again ..
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it’s being challenged
failed
Leafs to the power kill …
oh it failed …
Sens up by 3 now …
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Leafs are getting a power kill courtesy of Rielly
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OK, it’s time to get the Tank out of mothballs and start losing. Time to get near the bottom and get a top end draft pick. It’s obvious that the bed has been stripped and the shitty sheets are in the wash. Anyone that wants this team to succeed must get on the tank and get some prospects into the cupboard. The Leafs missed the wave, the change in hockey. Teams that acquired young talent are now riding the wave to the top. Watching the Habs, Sens, Wings and others, it’s not the veterans that get the job done, it’s youth with mobile defensemen that win in today’s NHL. The Leafs started to build a team to beat Florida. The problem with that, Florida too is on the decline. Both teams could miss the playoffs. The answer is asset management and rebuild your draft capital. It’s time for Rielly, Domi, McMann, OEL and Stolarz to move on and draft picks coming back. The only untouchables include Matthews, Nylander, Woll and Hildiby. Now is not the time to be a buyer. Get the assets, fire the GM and Coach, start with a new Coaching staff and use the acquired Cap Space to get into free agency and rebuild. My friends, you can argue back and forth and disagree, but the retool must start this week, and not the end of the season.
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OK, it’s time to get the Tank out of mothballs and start losing. Time to get near the bottom and get a top end draft pick. It’s obvious that the bed has been stripped and the shitty sheets are in the wash. Anyone that wants this team to succeed must get on the tank and get some prospects into the cupboard. The Leafs missed the wave, the change in hockey. Teams that acquired young talent are now riding the wave to the top. Watching the Habs, Sens, Wings and others, it’s not the veterans that get the job done, it’s youth with mobile defensemen that win in today’s NHL. The Leafs started to build a team to beat Florida. The problem with that, Florida too is on the decline. Both teams could miss the playoffs. The answer is asset management and rebuild your draft capital. It’s time for Rielly, Domi, McMann, OEL and Stolarz to move on and draft picks coming back. The only untouchables include Matthews, Nylander, Woll and Hildiby. Now is not the time to be a buyer. Get the assets, fire the GM and Coach, start with a new Coaching staff and use the acquired Cap Space to get into free agency and rebuild. My friends, you can argue back and forth and disagree, but the retool must start this week, and not the end of the season.
Well said. Hopefully we can get a couple of 1st round picks and/or young prospects
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Yah I don’t argue with many on here, but you do with pretty much everybody.
You don’t argue because you have your hivemind that you agree with. I “argue” with the hivemind and I’m usually the correct one and you’re the wrong one.
Too stupid to realize you have almost single handedly ruined two sites, yet constantly calling people retards for their opinions.
If I call you a retard, it’s because you are acting like one. Like now, I’ll call you a retard for the claim that I “single handedly ruined two sites” when the reality is that this format is dying. This site absolutely sucks and the previous site killed itself because it’s run by a retard that didn’t realize what few users he had left really wanted. But yeah, I totally did that all by myself. All me. You absolute fucking retard.
I have never before witnessed anyone as disrespectful of others as you constantly are.
You have to be respectful to receive my respect. If I’m disrespectful of you it’s because you’ve been a world class asswipe. You get what you deserve.
So tired of keyboard warriors like you who if ever got out of their mom’s basement and treated people like this in person would live a very painful life. But keep being a dick, and moving the goalposts.
Blah blah blah, you’re a bitch. Keep being wrong and pretending to be the victim. It’s typical among your type.
On a more serious note been meaning to ask for a while. If you hate them so much why:
– don’t you move from Canada
– do you still cheer for the Leafs?Leaving Canada is very high on the priority list but not easily done as this communist shit hole doesn’t let you leave easily. Canada actually has exit taxes they force you to pay. But that’s an entire story you’re not entitled to know about. Just know that this refugee camp of a country has hit the iceberg and it’s going down.
I want the Leafs to win a Stanley Cup. I “cheer” for what is best for the team to achieve that goal. You, on the other hand, would watch 18 monkeys shit themselves as long as they wore a Leafs jersey. And that’s pretty much what the game vs. Ottawa looked like.
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OK, it’s time to get the Tank out of mothballs and start losing. Time to get near the bottom and get a top end draft pick. It’s obvious that the bed has been stripped and the shitty sheets are in the wash. Anyone that wants this team to succeed must get on the tank and get some prospects into the cupboard. The Leafs missed the wave, the change in hockey. Teams that acquired young talent are now riding the wave to the top. Watching the Habs, Sens, Wings and others, it’s not the veterans that get the job done, it’s youth with mobile defensemen that win in today’s NHL. The Leafs started to build a team to beat Florida. The problem with that, Florida too is on the decline. Both teams could miss the playoffs. The answer is asset management and rebuild your draft capital. It’s time for Rielly, Domi, McMann, OEL and Stolarz to move on and draft picks coming back. The only untouchables include Matthews, Nylander, Woll and Hildiby. Now is not the time to be a buyer. Get the assets, fire the GM and Coach, start with a new Coaching staff and use the acquired Cap Space to get into free agency and rebuild. My friends, you can argue back and forth and disagree, but the retool must start this week, and not the end of the season.
The Leafs are 9 points out of a lottery pick position and 8 points out of the playoffs. It’s as hard to tank that bad as it would be to make the playoffs. The teams below the Leafs know what time it is. They’re all about to get a lot worse and tank hard. The Leafs need all the teams below them to go on a winning streak when they all want to lose as hard as possible. It’s not going to happen. The Leafs will go .500 down the stretch and be pretty much exactly where they are now. They’re still better off winning every game they can to hurt the Bruins draft position. Trying to tank at this point only gives the Leafs better odds at giving the Bruins the 6th overall pick which is the worst case scenario.
Matthews and Nylander are not untouchable. In fact, they should be the absolute top of the list for players that need to be traded. Not for some stupid elbows up reason but because they are the fastest route to rebuild this team. They need to be moved out just like everybody else. This core and this era is over. This team absolutely sucks because the core sucks as a group. That’s not to say they don’t hold value but they need to be blown apart. Just like how Kessel couldn’t do shit in Toronto but won a Cup in Pittsburgh, Matthews and Nylander can win somewhere else, but they can’t win together here.
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I also looked at the standing and noticed that. They really are in no-mans land. They do have games against these bottom feeders so it’s up to them to lose in regulation. If not, try to get north of the 10th overall pick. Moving some talent for picks is a must, sooner than later. Time to look at some of the Marlies that are having good years. If you look at the defense on paper, removing Rielly and OEL, you can say that keeping McCabe as the first defensive pairing, while Tanev playing on the right side next year. After that, they need 2 left shot defensemen for slots on the second and third pairing. Carlo, with a proper partner named not Rielly, would probably look better on the second pairing would be acceptable on a playoff team. Stecher on the 3rd pairing is not a bad option with a new partner not named Benoit. They need to shore up the Left side of the Defense.
Looking at forwards, Matthews and Knies on line 1, find a right winger. Line 2 has Tavares and Nylander, add a left winger. Find a spot for Cowen on the 3rd line. Laughton at 4C. Add accordingly. The rest can go in trades if the price is right. A few strategic free agents and they could be back in the playoffs, a year from now.
In goal, it has to be Woll and Hildeby. Stolarz needs to be traded, due to his age and injury issues.
Coaching and GM? Goodbye at years end. Interview the Hunter’s at years end. Not a complete rebuild but a heavy reset is in order.
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OK, it’s time to get the Tank out of mothballs and start losing. Time to get near the bottom and get a top end draft pick. It’s obvious that the bed has been stripped and the shitty sheets are in the wash. Anyone that wants this team to succeed must get on the tank and get some prospects into the cupboard. The Leafs missed the wave, the change in hockey. Teams that acquired young talent are now riding the wave to the top. Watching the Habs, Sens, Wings and others, it’s not the veterans that get the job done, it’s youth with mobile defensemen that win in today’s NHL. The Leafs started to build a team to beat Florida. The problem with that, Florida too is on the decline. Both teams could miss the playoffs. The answer is asset management and rebuild your draft capital. It’s time for Rielly, Domi, McMann, OEL and Stolarz to move on and draft picks coming back. The only untouchables include Matthews, Nylander, Woll and Hildiby. Now is not the time to be a buyer. Get the assets, fire the GM and Coach, start with a new Coaching staff and use the acquired Cap Space to get into free agency and rebuild. My friends, you can argue back and forth and disagree, but the retool must start this week, and not the end of the season.
The leafs dont have their 1st round picks for the next two years cause Tre stupidly thought carlo and a 4th liner would be worth moving those along with prospects (1 really good one – that I did not want moved) out for. So getting high end prospects by bottoming out wont work.
But agreed on they gotta fill up the cupboards, gotta move out McMann, Laughton, Macelli, Domi and get some 2nd’s, 3rd’s. Maybe OEL for a 1st.
Sure fire the coach and GM, not a fan of Tre….and these players cant play Berube style of hockey – it wasnt just marner who couldnt.I think the core problem is the captain….no real heart or fight.
Oh well.Leafs are gonna Leafs
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OK, it’s time to get the Tank out of mothballs and start losing. Time to get near the bottom and get a top end draft pick. It’s obvious that the bed has been stripped and the shitty sheets are in the wash. Anyone that wants this team to succeed must get on the tank and get some prospects into the cupboard. The Leafs missed the wave, the change in hockey. Teams that acquired young talent are now riding the wave to the top. Watching the Habs, Sens, Wings and others, it’s not the veterans that get the job done, it’s youth with mobile defensemen that win in today’s NHL. The Leafs started to build a team to beat Florida. The problem with that, Florida too is on the decline. Both teams could miss the playoffs. The answer is asset management and rebuild your draft capital. It’s time for Rielly, Domi, McMann, OEL and Stolarz to move on and draft picks coming back. The only untouchables include Matthews, Nylander, Woll and Hildiby. Now is not the time to be a buyer. Get the assets, fire the GM and Coach, start with a new Coaching staff and use the acquired Cap Space to get into free agency and rebuild. My friends, you can argue back and forth and disagree, but the retool must start this week, and not the end of the season.
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Yah I don’t argue with many on here, but you do with pretty much everybody.
You don’t argue because you have your hivemind that you agree with. I “argue” with the hivemind and I’m usually the correct one and you’re the wrong one.
Too stupid to realize you have almost single handedly ruined two sites, yet constantly calling people retards for their opinions.
If I call you a retard, it’s because you are acting like one. Like now, I’ll call you a retard for the claim that I “single handedly ruined two sites” when the reality is that this format is dying. This site absolutely sucks and the previous site killed itself because it’s run by a retard that didn’t realize what few users he had left really wanted. But yeah, I totally did that all by myself. All me. You absolute fucking retard.
I have never before witnessed anyone as disrespectful of others as you constantly are.
You have to be respectful to receive my respect. If I’m disrespectful of you it’s because you’ve been a world class asswipe. You get what you deserve.
So tired of keyboard warriors like you who if ever got out of their mom’s basement and treated people like this in person would live a very painful life. But keep being a dick, and moving the goalposts.
Blah blah blah, you’re a bitch. Keep being wrong and pretending to be the victim. It’s typical among your type.
On a more serious note been meaning to ask for a while. If you hate them so much why:
– don’t you move from Canada
– do you still cheer for the Leafs?Leaving Canada is very high on the priority list but not easily done as this communist shit hole doesn’t let you leave easily. Canada actually has exit taxes they force you to pay. But that’s an entire story you’re not entitled to know about. Just know that this refugee camp of a country has hit the iceberg and it’s going down.
I want the Leafs to win a Stanley Cup. I “cheer” for what is best for the team to achieve that goal. You, on the other hand, would watch 18 monkeys shit themselves as long as they wore a Leafs jersey. And that’s pretty much what the game vs. Ottawa looked like.
You could have saved me the time reading and just said “everyone is wrong when they do not agree with me, and if they do they are retards”.
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So when are Treliving and Berube getting fired so the trades can start happening?
Sad to say it but come on, the team is toning out the coach, and the GM tied himself to him. So come on leafs, you’re not making the playoffs, sell time, put a couple part time guys in charge to gain picks/prospects while letting the leftovers and some young guys play. Then go get who they want to put on charge before the draft in the off-season.
Recognize the current goal and go after it,
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Keith Pelley is completely and totally unqualified to be running the hockey side of MLSE. He has no experience whatsoever in hockey other than being in corporate “media”. He has mild experience in running the Argos in a two bit league. The only thing Pelley knows how to do is lie through the media. He has no idea what’s wrong with this team, who needs to be fired and what needs to be done to fix it. MLSE will continue to profit and he will not improve one thing of substance on the ice.
Treliving must be fired first and foremost.
The potential solution:
President: Ron Francis
GM: Rob Blake
Assistant GM: Brandon Pridham
Director of Amateur Scouting: Mike Futa
Head Coach: Steve Sullivan so you can tank until 2029 then hire Rod Brind’Amour.Grossly overpay Ron Francis to leave his post in Seattle to be the President of Hockey Ops. Looking at what Carolina is today, they’ve built a great team from the ground up and while they haven’t won a Cup, bring a level of competitiveness that the Leafs haven’t had in decades. One day, when Rod the Bod leaves Carolina (contract ends in 2029), that connection to Ron Francis could come in handy.
Rob Blake was always a good competitor and winner on the ice. He’s from Simcoe so he understands the average Leafs fan more than the bullshit corporate greed. He has experience working for the LA Kings and has seen what a tough, defensive Cup winning team looks like as Assistant GM of a Cup winner. He ran their AHL farm team so he clearly understands how the farm system works.
Mike Futa (born in 1967) is seemingly working in the sports media today waiting in the Toronto market for an opportunity. Futa has a connection to both Carolina and the LA Kings. Futa made some great draft picks to help build the last LA Cup winning teams. He could be the Director of Amateur Scouting that the Leafs have desperately needed for decades.
This franchise would look so much different and much better with Ron Francis as President, Rob Blake as GM, Futa as Director of Amateur Scouting and Rod Brind’Amour as head coach. You give those guys the opportunity to start over, trade everybody out, acquire 10-12 first round picks, tank in 2028 + 2029 for a pair of lottery picks (McDavid is also a UFA in 2029) and then build it from the ground up and from the net out.
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You could have saved me the time reading and just said “everyone is wrong when they do not agree with me, and if they do they are retards”.
Tell me again how amazing Steve Sullivan is as a PP coach you absolute fucking retard.
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You could have saved me the time reading and just said “everyone is wrong when they do not agree with me, and if they do they are retards”.
Tell me again how amazing Steve Sullivan is as a PP coach you absolute fucking retard.
First off I never said amazing, I just didn’t shit on him without him getting a chance like some other incel twatwaffle. However since you asked so politely I believe that:
When Savard was fired late December the PP was about 13% and Leafs were dead last in NHL
I think recently it is close to 19% and the Leafs are close to 19%. Not shabby considering the whole they have had to dig themselves out of, and how shit it was while Nylander was out
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So according TSN Robertson and Stecher are in the group of extras tonight so maybe that’s because they’re on the cusp of a deal? I hope anyways? McMann is also on a top line with Matthews and Nylander so maybe they’re trying to make a guy who isn’t worth rounder look like he is? lol
Lose decently tonight Leafs (and yes I know it doesn’t look good considering who has their pick but I’ll keep hoping for this too the management and coach get changed), let the tradeable guys this week rack up some points.
Go Leafs Go
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my trade proposal #1
Utah: Stolarz, McMann
Leafs: Utah 2027 1st (top 5 protected), Rangers 2026 2nd rnd pck, Vanecek, B prospectworks for me.
interesting note, Leafs traded a 3rd for Maccelli from Utah, but the pick wont end up a 2nd…cuz neither will happen
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Interesting fact according to Statmuse, not opinion being shoved down your throats as fact.
Toronto power play when Savard was fired on Dec 22nd 13.3%
Toronto monthly PP percentage since the change:
December 4/8 = 50%
January 22.6%
Feb 44.4I am guessing if the PP the first few months of the season was as successful as it has been since Savard was fired the Leafs may be in a playoff spot.
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First off I never said amazing, I just didn’t shit on him without him getting a chance like some other incel twatwaffle. However since you asked so politely I believe that:
When Savard was fired late December the PP was about 13% and Leafs were dead last in NHL
I think recently it is close to 19% and the Leafs are close to 19%. Not shabby considering the whole they have had to dig themselves out of, and how shit it was while Nylander was out
And again, the only reason for the slight improvement is because Savard was so useless at his job that him being fired would automatically cause an improvement. The PP is done by committee, not by Sullivan alone. Firing Savard was addition by subtraction. But the PP is still weak considering the weapons it has just like I predicted it would under Savard. Nylander not giving a fuck has more to do with the failure of this team than his injury.
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First off I never said amazing, I just didn’t shit on him without him getting a chance like some other incel twatwaffle. However since you asked so politely I believe that:
When Savard was fired late December the PP was about 13% and Leafs were dead last in NHL
I think recently it is close to 19% and the Leafs are close to 19%. Not shabby considering the whole they have had to dig themselves out of, and how shit it was while Nylander was out
And again, the only reason for the slight improvement is because Savard was so useless at his job that him being fired would automatically cause an improvement. The PP is done by committee, not by Sullivan alone. Firing Savard was addition by subtraction. But the PP is still weak considering the weapons it has just like I predicted it would under Savard. Nylander not giving a fuck has more to do with the failure of this team than his injury.
Major improvement. Close to 25% since Savard is gone.
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Major improvement. Close to 25% since Savard is gone.
Only 25 games have been played so that’s still considered a small sample size for improvement or success especially when you consider the Leafs have lost 13 out of those 25 games so it hasn’t won them enough games. And again, Savard was always a garbage hire. From day one, he was never the right guy for the job. So being better than total dog shit isn’t an accomplishment, it’s addition by subtraction.
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Yes absolutely too short of a sample, but it is you who has constantly bashed Sullivan since his hiring. Usually in your arrogant, disrespectful way, trying to show up anybody who has shown any support for Sullivan. Sullivan was promoted to work with Lalonde and “bring new ideas to the power play” You didn’t like the hire and shit on it right away because you know everything. TO date you have been absolutely wrong as the PP has been running at a rate that would have them in the top 10 of PP percentage since Sullivan has been involved. So no matter how many times you belligerently try to shove your opinion down our throats, to date it is incorrect or at the very least unfounded. It is your opinion and is blatantly proven wrong by the stats. Please note I am discussing Sullivan and the PP so moving the goal posts to “well the Leafs still are not winning” is just immature.
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Yes absolutely too short of a sample, but it is you who has constantly bashed Sullivan since his hiring. Usually in your arrogant, disrespectful way, trying to show up anybody who has shown any support for Sullivan. Sullivan was promoted to work with Lalonde and “bring new ideas to the power play” You didn’t like the hire and shit on it right away because you know everything. TO date you have been absolutely wrong as the PP has been running at a rate that would have them in the top 10 of PP percentage since Sullivan has been involved. So no matter how many times you belligerently try to shove your opinion down our throats, to date it is incorrect or at the very least unfounded. It is your opinion and is blatantly proven wrong by the stats. Please note I am discussing Sullivan and the PP so moving the goal posts to “well the Leafs still are not winning” is just immature.
So you say it’s absolutely too short of sample but declare some type of victory in the argument. Typical retard behavior. The improvement on the PP has been the removal of bad ideas from Savard, not from anything Sullivan has come up with. Furthermore, Sullivan isn’t running the PP by himself you retard. It’s been done by committee. Lalonde has also been a worthless coach as everything defensively, except the PK, has been dog shit, which is the major source of this team losing games.
The reason I did not like the hire is because Steve Sullivan is a nobody in the coaching world. Zero experience in the OHL. Zero experience in the NHL. He barely has AHL experience. It’s also why they did not and do not give him full control of the PP either. He’s just another warm body to fill the bench with occasional input. The Leafs were attempting to be a Cup contender and have world class offensive weapons. To bring in a nobody coach with limited experience is showing that the organization has no reputable options. The short term bump in improvement was not because of Sullivan, it was addition by subtraction by removing Savard.
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GO Leafs GO !!!.!!!.!!!!
Go where? To the auction?
Blackhawks sold Murphy, a defensive D playing 16 minutes a game, to the Oilers for a 2nd round pick.
Leafs can get a boatload of 1st round picks if they just sell hard.
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GO Leafs GO !!!.!!!.!!!!
Go where? To the auction?
Blackhawks sold Murphy, a defensive D playing 16 minutes a game, to the Oilers for a 2nd round pick.
Leafs can get a boatload of 1st round picks if they just sell hard.
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Cowen give the the Leafs the first power kill of the game.
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and 50% retained as well.
we’ll see how hard they sell.So what? Leafs don’t need cap space, they can retain on expiring contracts.
McMann, OEL, Laughton, Roy, Stolarz, Stecher and Carlo can all be traded.
Four 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks.
Go Sell Go!
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McMann is looking a 5M cap hit from the Leafs.
Trade him if they can.
LA: McMann
Toronto: LA’s 2026 2nd, CBJ’s 2026 2nd rnd pck.Players like McMann have got a 1st many times before. Fucking Laughton cost a 1st and a prospect.
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and 50% retained as well.
we’ll see how hard they sell.So what? Leafs don’t need cap space, they can retain on expiring contracts.
McMann, OEL, Laughton, Roy, Stolarz, Stecher and Carlo can all be traded.
Four 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks.
Go Sell Go!
I think you will extreamly disappointed more than usuall when they don’t get what you think they should get.
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Leafs to the power kill . .
Philly took a too many men penalty.
4on4 hockey for a 1 minute.
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Trade Joshua!!!
2nd round pick, at least.
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Leafs got 5 shots in 15 minutes. That PP looks amazing though.
and, so far, they are leading in this game.
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Leafs got 5 shots in 15 minutes. That PP looks amazing though.
lol and there’s the tie game
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Trade Joshua!!!
2nd round pick, at least.
why not a 1st?
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Leafs got 5 shots in 15 minutes. That PP looks amazing though.
and, so far, they are leading in this game.
that did not last long
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Trade Joshua!!!
2nd round pick, at least.
For a 7 goal 4th liner? I’d take a f’n 4th. Average mid six guys are your 3rd rounder trades.
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For a 7 goal 4th liner? I’d take a f’n 4th. Average mid six guys are your 3rd rounder trades.
Laughton cost a 1st.
Trade deadline makes teams make mistakes every single year.
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For a 7 goal 4th liner? I’d take a f’n 4th. Average mid six guys are your 3rd rounder trades.
Laughton cost a 1st.
Trade deadline makes teams make mistakes every single year.
It’s unfortunate, but I don’t trust the current GM
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Leafs to teh PP
time to tie this game up!!!Styles !!!!!
ties
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BOO Yeah !!!
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Leafs got 5 shots in 15 minutes. That PP looks amazing though.
33.3% fucking awesome percentage thanks Willie.
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4 losses in a row, with a point.
I’m afraid how this week is supposed to play out, I wish it involved the necessary firings but I’m doubting it. Hopefully, and I mean it, HOPEFULLY, summer will be the beginning of rebuild time. I love this team but they’re lost.
Go Leafs Go
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4 losses in a row, with a point.
I’m afraid how this week is supposed to play out, I wish it involved the necessary firings but I’m doubting it. Hopefully, and I mean it, HOPEFULLY, summer will be the beginning of rebuild time. I love this team but they’re lost.
Go Leafs Go
I have zero confidence in MLSE. They have repeatedly made poor management decision after poor management decision. Whatever it is they should do, history has shown that they will do the exact opposite.
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Leafs got a point, that unfortunate. Its going to be tough to get in the bottom 5
its also Funny Edm is in a playoff spot with 66 points and the leafs are way out of it with 64
Amen to that.
Oilers fans convinced their team is leaps and bounds better than the Leafs and have been for years is funny to me. They play in arguably the weakest division in the league and we are seeing it yet again. Imagine if they played in they and the Leafs had flipped divisions years ago? Would we have seen them make 2 cup finals and the Leafs lack of playoff success been the same or might the Leafs have been the ones to have gone on deep playoff runs and the Oilers to have been the ones to have struggled to make it into the 2nd round year over year?
We will never know but you can’t gloss over the fact playing in a weaker division is a huge advantage.
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Amen to that.
Oilers fans convinced their team is leaps and bounds better than the Leafs and have been for years is funny to me. They play in arguably the weakest division in the league and we are seeing it yet again. Imagine if they played in they and the Leafs had flipped divisions years ago? Would we have seen them make 2 cup finals and the Leafs lack of playoff success been the same or might the Leafs have been the ones to have gone on deep playoff runs and the Oilers to have been the ones to have struggled to make it into the 2nd round year over year?
We will never know but you can’t gloss over the fact playing in a weaker division is a huge advantage.
Hey same for the Jays, love the AL east (barf)
I dont think the Leafs win if they were in a different div. but who knows. 2021-22 Leafs were the best version of the AM/mm/jt/wn leafs, and its been going down ever since.
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What’s up everyone. Feels like years since hockey buzz existed and don’t follow here either.
What a bunch of horseshit this year has been for hockey. We’re heading for some dark days once again. I don’t trust this group that is heading the leafs management let alone having them control the deadline.
Anyways hope all is well in your personal lives because I think we’re in for a stinker again.
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And it’s Wednesday…
Sadly this management is running the deadline, here’s hoping they’re just being one of those teams that just hands out whoever to the best offer on Friday. Let’s face it, they don’t have much, they’re this years yard sale team based around how the guys are playing under Berube’s game.
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Not a lot of teams are selling pieces hard and fast but the ones that have are getting 2nd round picks for bottom of the line-up players.
The Leafs are not a quality team but they have quality pieces that teams usually pay a high price for at the deadline.
Best case, they can walk away with 4 or 5 1st round picks. Worst case, 4 or 5 2nd round picks. But either way, the Leafs are better off with any draft pick than they are with this support cast of players.
But again, Pelley is a retard and Treliving is his retard puppet so the odds of their success is low.
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4 or 5 1st rounders? WTF. BAHAHAHA!
Someone is not living in reality as we all know.
Leafs arent trading Matthews or Nylander.
If they move OEL, they could get a 1st for him.
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4 or 5 1st rounders? WTF. BAHAHAHA!
Someone is not living in reality as we all know.
Leafs arent trading Matthews or Nylander.
If they move OEL, they could get a 1st for him.
McMann, Laughton, Domi, Macielli…are probably going to get 2nd’s, 3rd’s and 4th’s….unless someone is really desperate and stupid. (Maybe Tre is trading with himself?)thats what I was thinking, they could probably squeeze one 1st out of someone. but doubt much more.
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thats what I was thinking, they could probably squeeze one 1st out of someone. but doubt much more.
Tre way overpaid for Carlo and Laughton, now he will sell at a big loss. if he even trades them.[/quote]
Agreed.
No one was gonna pay the price Tre paid for those two players last season.I’d expect 2nd’s, 3rd’s and 4th’s coming back this deadline…maybe one 1st.
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No one was gonna pay the price Tre paid for those two players last season.
I’d expect 2nd’s, 3rd’s and 4th’s coming back this deadline…maybe one 1st.
I already know Treliving is a retard and one of the worst GMs in the league but if he can’t find anybody to acquire Laughton and Carlo for a 1st, it’s absolute confirmation he’s the worst GM in the NHL and should be fired.
Remember, if the Leafs get a 1st for Carlo and a 1st for Laughton, that would be considered a LOSS of value because they actually gave up MORE to get them.
In previous years, Roy, Laughton, Carlo, OEL and McMann are all worth 1st round picks to contenders and pretenders at the deadline.
Also remember, there are teams out there who have multiple 1st round picks like Seattle that has Tampa Bay’s 1st in 2026 and 2027. And four 2nd round picks too. Teams like that might be willing to part with one of them to make a playoff push.
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Tall defense in high demand, they dont have to be good, just tall
Enter Carlo.
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A pylon like Myers just got a 2nd rounder. There are teams out there ready to make the same mistakes the Leafs made with Carlo and Laughton.
and 50% retained.
and which Teams out there who will make that same mistake the Leafs did?
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A pylon like Myers just got a 2nd rounder. There are teams out there ready to make the same mistakes the Leafs made with Carlo and Laughton.
That’s because the GM of the leafs, who is terrible, and builds non-playoff teams, will make horrible payments.
Playoff team GMs won’t pay like a dipshit and the dipshits in the league are after pics currently, not over age leaf players.
Take the fucking late picks and start the rebuild.
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and 50% retained.
and which Teams out there who will make that same mistake the Leafs did?
Dreger is saying that there has been no reall offer for any Leafs player so far.UG desperately wants to believe the playoff teams have GMs as bad as Tre.
The man has crashed both The Flames and The Leafs now. Playoff bound team GMs won’t overpay for bottom six and bottom pairing guys, there will be sellers who give up their shit for mid to late round picks coupled with questionable prospects, the end.
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and 50% retained.
and which Teams out there who will make that same mistake the Leafs did?
Dreger is saying that there has been no reall offer for any Leafs player so far.Who gives a fuck if 50% was retained? It’s not because of albatross contracts, it’s to fit under the cap for the playoffs.
Plenty of teams out there. Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal, Seattle, Utah, Edmonton…there are SO MANY teams that are on the playoff bubble or trying to reinforce for the playoffs.
There are no offers because this idiot GM isn’t working hard enough to sell the players. He probably dreams he can still win the Cup with this rotten core of players.
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UG desperately wants to believe the playoff teams have GMs as bad as Tre.
The man has crashed both The Flames and The Leafs now. Playoff bound team GMs won’t overpay for bottom six and bottom pairing guys, there will be sellers who give up their shit for mid to late round picks coupled with questionable prospects, the end.
Dozzer wants to ignore that players like Tanner Jeannot was once traded for Cal Foote, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick, 4th round pick and 5th round pick.
By a terrible GM? Nope. Tampa Bay Lightning, multiple time Stanley Cup winner Julien BriseBois. So, sorry retard but even the best GMs make retarded trades around deadline time.
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Mcmann, Laughton and OEL scratched.
sweetExcellent news.
McMann to Edmonton for a 1st in 2027. OEL to Detroit for a 1st in 2026. Laughton to Buffalo for a 1st in 2026 or Minnesota for a 1st in 2027.
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UG desperately wants to believe the playoff teams have GMs as bad as Tre.
The man has crashed both The Flames and The Leafs now. Playoff bound team GMs won’t overpay for bottom six and bottom pairing guys, there will be sellers who give up their shit for mid to late round picks coupled with questionable prospects, the end.
Dozzer wants to ignore that players like Tanner Jeannot was once traded for Cal Foote, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick, 4th round pick and 5th round pick.
By a terrible GM? Nope. Tampa Bay Lightning, multiple time Stanley Cup winner Julien BriseBois. So, sorry retard but even the best GMs make retarded trades around deadline time.
The “retarded” GM is the one in charge of the leafs UG. Let’s talk Saturday, I’m sincerely willing to bet you’ll be disappointed.
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The “retarded” GM is the one in charge of the leafs UG. Let’s talk Saturday, I’m sincerely willing to bet you’ll be disappointed.
Absolutely, Treliving is a retard. You can say it without the quotes. This isn’t the UK (yet) where they will put you in jail without a jury.
The Leafs have enough assets to acquire multiple 1st round picks. It’s up to them to sell what they have hard enough to the correct teams.
As I already proved, great GMs make bad trades all the time. Why? Because they all think they can win the Cup if they can just get that “one last piece”.
Does that mean the Leafs absolutely WILL get them, no, because this is the Leafs; they only thing they do successfully is failure. But they have value and that value has a price. We can clearly see that other teams are getting value for their assets. The Leafs need to step up and get the same.
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When is he not?
Less than you because I already know this team is garbage. You still hope for miracles.
I’m not expecting the Leafs to actually sell and get a bunch of 1st round picks. Or trade Matthews and Nylander. Because I already know Treliving and Pelley are retards driven by stupidity and greed.
I’m just pointing out the evidence that the Leafs have the assets and the market is there for them to be able to sell hard and rebuild. I already know they won’t. But they should.
I can’t be disappointed by this team because I expect the worst from them, I can only be pleasantly surprised.
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When is he not?
Less than you because I already know this team is garbage. You still hope for miracles.
I’m not expecting the Leafs to actually sell and get a bunch of 1st round picks. Or trade Matthews and Nylander. Because I already know Treliving and Pelley are retards driven by stupidity and greed.
I’m just pointing out the evidence that the Leafs have the assets and the market is there for them to be able to sell hard and rebuild. I already know they won’t. But they should.
I can’t be disappointed by this team because I expect the worst from them, I can only be pleasantly surprised.
of course I cheer for them to win
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When is he not?
The magic he expects to happen in the next 43 hours is hilarious.
If anyone would get a first it’s McMann and he’s not even drawing one yet or that deal would have already been made. It’s going to be a mid round pick dump with some questionable assets tops. At least I hope so, better than hanging on.
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Leafs to the PP once again …. on a weird call
Was that a PP goal !!!???
BOO Yeah !!!
Leafs up by 1
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Leafs are going to the power kill . . . .
they killed it
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Leafs to test their power kill skills . . . . .
another kill by the Leafs … 👍
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Weeger for Maata and three 2nd round picks.
Calgary fans will absolutely love having that $3.5 mill D man for the next couple of years 😜
And NJ ties the game hahahahaha 😂
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OT for Da Leafs …….
and a shootout loss
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idiot Leafs, you are supposed to lose without getting the stupid point
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No, they need that point so Boston’s pick is up in the teens … and not in the single digits.
For me, I’d rather see them give up the 2026 1st which is protected as oppose to an unprotected pick in 2027.what a stupid team. cant even trade picks properly. always bring the the worst case scenarios
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Leefs..so leefy
what Brad Treliving has built is simply not good enough. That he’s being lapped by a Pittsburgh retool built off the scrap heap by the guy he replaced is an extremely bad look
we didnt know how good (bad) we had it. It could be a long time before we see a Leafs team that has a run like the Last 10 seasons. just massively wasted opportunity
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Well I didnt have Roy has a possible trade target for the leafs to move out, but Tre actually got a 2027 1st rounder and the Avs lowest 5th round pick (2026)
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Well I didnt have Roy has a possible trade target for the leafs to move out, but Tre actually got a 2027 1st rounder and the Avs lowest 5th round pick (2026)
Maybe that means Laughton is staying?I really hope so. I like the idea of having players here that want to play in Toronto and can handle the pressure and media. He’s also likely to take a team friendly contract to stay. McMann may be the same, I read somewhere that he’d get 5×5 on the open market, but would take less than 5 in Toronto.
Is there ever situations where a team trades out a player (like McMann) as a true rental, with some backroom deal to re-sign in the offseason? Obviously, nothing could be officially agreed upon, but I don’t recall this ever happening.
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Leefs..so leefy
what Brad Treliving has built is simply not good enough. That he’s being lapped by a Pittsburgh retool built off the scrap heap by the guy he replaced is an extremely bad look
we didnt know how good (bad) we had it. It could be a long time before we see a Leafs team that has a run like the Last 10 seasons. just massively wasted opportunity
Tre pretty much Brian Burked this team
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Good start, Leafs get a 1st for those that like to jerk it to 1sts
Im sure Tre will trade it away next season for another 3rd liner
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Im sure Tre will trade it away next season for another 3rd liner
Tre will trade 1 loonie for 3 quarters because 3 is more than 1
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Im sure Tre will trade it away next season for another 3rd liner
Tre will trade 1 loonie for 3 quarters because 3 is more than 1
LMAO LOL
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Im sure Tre will trade it away next season for another 3rd liner
Tre will trade 1 loonie for 3 quarters because 3 is more than 1
Yikes, Parayko declined to waive to go to Buffalo, (can’t blame him). Sucks for Buffalo fans. Might as well grab OEL for slightly more;-)
Why do teams announce trades when it still requires a player to waive?!?!
Sounds like they need one OEL Stat!
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Sounds like they need one OEL Stat!
or Carlo.[/quote]
Yeah, I’d MUCH rather keep OEL, he’s a beast. Carlo doesn’t command near the return that OEL would, though. Tough call.If you’re doing a FULL rebuild, you trade OEL. If you’re trying to do a fast retool, you trade Carlo.
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Yikes, Parayko declined to waive to go to Buffalo, (can’t blame him). Sucks for Buffalo fans. Might as well grab OEL for slightly more;-)
Why do teams announce trades when it still requires a player to waive?!?!
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So as things stand it’s looking like OEL, McMann, and Laughton are sitting tonight. Safe bet on who’s getting dealt for whoever offers the most by tomorrow (unless Tre’s wishes get met before that).
Here’s hoping the leafs play like they still give a shit tonight it doesn’t have to wait til after the deadline.
Go Leafs Go
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It’s all good that they got a 1st for Roy, but that’ll probably be around #30. So you might get lucky and get another Easton Cowan type player. Leafs really need to move up in the draft to at least 15. That might get you a good second liner or a 2nd pair defenseman, in 5 years. A start, yes, but they better not say good enough and go back into complacency. Time to make those moves to reacquire youth for the pipeline. Maybe it is time to see what Matthews is worth. If it brings you a blue chip prospect and a number of first rounders. You could rebuild quickly by beefing up in the draft and free agency. Keep your good young players like Knies, Woll and Cowan. Players like McCabe, Tanev and Nylander can be the veteran anchors.
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oy-vey ……….
boys need to dig in and tie this game to send it to OT!!.don’t look like they will
down by 2 now ……
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So who’s everyone going to root for in the playoffs? I’m going with The Bolts.
Avs for me.
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Here’s hoping the selling brings back some useful stuff. I mean I know it will be a late round pick, but at least Marner turned into a 1st.
Marner also turned into a fuck ton of much needed cap space.
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Marner also turned into a fuck ton of much needed cap space.
That was wasted on a bunch of pylons and resulted in going from 1st to last. And no better players available as pending UFAs coming either.
So great job! Worked out amazing!
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That was wasted on a bunch of pylons and resulted in going from 1st to last. And no better players available as pending UFAs coming either.
So great job! Worked out amazing!
I know you’re severely retarded, so I’ll spell this out for you. We have that cap space next year. And the year after. And the year after that, etc.
I would rather go from first to last and rebuild properly than run the same fucking team back for another 8 years.
Literally, EVERYBODY knew this year was going to be a step back, but no real fan cares about regular season superstars, the playoffs are all that matters.
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Why do I have to scroll through 1500 posts? Is there a “goto the end” button I am missing?
Good to see the usual still around having the same conversations.
I only came to see how everyone is faring.
I havent watched many games since they suck but for what it is worth, I think it should be a retool type of year. Roy for a 1st is nice. Hopefully get back some ready to play guys like a Minten lol. Sucks that happened! Shanny trying to save his job and helps overpay lol.
I dont think these issue are purely on Marner leaving. Lots of issues in total. Lots of goalie injuries, no Tanev, bit of Matthews injury.
Bad year. I dont think this is the total decline. I think this is a good wake up call for the core guys.They spread the cap out on the big 4, didnt work. Regular season matters cause if you dont do well, no playoffs. I rather the past 9 years than the previous 9 before it.
Matthews is too good to give up on. Washington, Colorado, even Pitts didnt give up on their generational talent and they eventually won. Pitts might even make the playoffs TWO years after people thought Sid and Co were all washed up when Dubas took over.
Ah well. Tomorrow will be fun in a different way.
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I know you’re severely retarded, so I’ll spell this out for you. We have that cap space next year. And the year after. And the year after that, etc.
I would rather go from first to last and rebuild properly than run the same fucking team back for another 8 years.
Literally, EVERYBODY knew this year was going to be a step back, but no real fan cares about regular season superstars, the playoffs are all that matters.
Cap space for “next year” is irrelevant. There is nothing but old and garbage UFAs. What the fuck are you going to do with that cap space? Stroke your micropeen to it?
Nobody that is anywhere near as good as Marner is available as a UFA so congrats, you got a last placed team with cap space and nobody worth signing to make the team better.
You would rather be in last place? What a major league retard you must be. Enjoy the next 8 years being the Kessel years all over again though fucking retard.
The playoffs is what matters? Good luck succeeding in the playoffs when you miss the playoffs by 10+ points you fucking retard.
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Matthews is too good to give up on. Washington, Colorado, even Pitts didnt give up on their generational talent and they eventually won. Pitts might even make the playoffs TWO years after people thought Sid and Co were all washed up when Dubas took over.
Ah well. Tomorrow will be fun in a different way.
This is a horrid comparison. Matthews is not as good as Ovechkin in the playoffs. Ovechkin lost in the playoffs to Crosby multiple times and was a beast in the playoffs despite his team losing. Matthews has been bad in the playoffs compared to Ovechkin. Matthews is a part of the problem, not the solution. He’s also been shit without Marner but that’s only a surprise to total retards who keep claiming “injuries”.
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Conor Garland, a total pylon of a player this year with only 7 goals and 26 points with a cap hit that kicks in at 6AAV next year for the next 6 years just got a 2nd round pick.
That should give Treliving, the king retard GM, the kick in the ass to start getting 1st round picks for Laughton, McMann and OEL.
Hell, that even shows they can trade Rielly. Fucking 6 AAV for 7 goals from 5’10”, 165 lbs Garland but he just got a 2nd round pick. Brutal deal but obviously retarded GMs out there will give up draft picks for bad players. The Leafs have a lot of them to move.
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John Carlson with 10 goals and 46 points got a 1st + 3rd round pick as a pending UFA. OEL has TWO years left on his deal at a good price of 3.5 AAV with 8 goals and 35 points.
OEL must get a 1st round back, at least. Should probably be a 1st + 2nd or a very good prospect at this point.
Sam Carrick, 4th line rat, got a 3rd + 6th rounder. Schenn + Stanley got a 2nd + 4th rounder.
The Leafs can get great value for their assets at this market rate.
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Why do I have to scroll through 1500 posts? Is there a “goto the end” button I am missing?
Good to see the usual still around having the same conversations.
I only came to see how everyone is faring.
I havent watched many games since they suck but for what it is worth, I think it should be a retool type of year. Roy for a 1st is nice. Hopefully get back some ready to play guys like a Minten lol. Sucks that happened! Shanny trying to save his job and helps overpay lol.
I dont think these issue are purely on Marner leaving. Lots of issues in total. Lots of goalie injuries, no Tanev, bit of Matthews injury.
Bad year. I dont think this is the total decline. I think this is a good wake up call for the core guys.They spread the cap out on the big 4, didnt work. Regular season matters cause if you dont do well, no playoffs. I rather the past 9 years than the previous 9 before it.
Matthews is too good to give up on. Washington, Colorado, even Pitts didnt give up on their generational talent and they eventually won. Pitts might even make the playoffs TWO years after people thought Sid and Co were all washed up when Dubas took over.
Ah well. Tomorrow will be fun in a different way.
Tre made the minten trade, not Shanny though….either way, it was a bad trade.
MAtthews is definitely no Crosby….not even close and he’s no Ovechkin and I wouldnt consider matthews generational talent.
No one thought Sid was washed up, just that the pens werent a good team around him…and they werent…and really arent. Just having a good season.
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OEL has been good for the leafs, but Carlson is the better player. OEL has term and good contract.
IF he is moved, I would expect the picks coming back would fall inbetween what Carlson and weegar got.
Late 1st, and a 4th….or a couple of 2nds and ok prospect.However, the leafs will then have to turn around in the summer and try and find a replacement for OEL….which will cost them more than OEL’s cap.
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Fake — Do you think the Leafs will be better next year?
If the Leafs pick falls in the top 5, Boston’s pick will be unprotected in 2027.
For me, I’d rather them have a pick in the teens.who knows.. What if they win the draft lottery like the Islandeer did last year.
That would be sweet.For them to be better next year, they will all need to be healthy and will need to get a new coach, a 2nd line center, top 6 winger and a top 4 dman. Tall order.
My hope is they get a top 5 pick this year and improve enough that the 2027 pick is not in the top 13.But ya, winning the lottery would be great….exactly what the leafs need. But with the leafs luck, they would finish with a top 5 pick but then the lottery pushed them to 6th overall.
Also I read that the Leafs are seeing what is available for Knies. Seeing if there is a package that would blow them away.
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As expected, big day for the leafs!
LOL
Minor trades still may trickle in.
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As expected, big day for the leafs!
LOL
Minor trades still may trickle in.
But it looks like only McMann and Roy out the door.edit:
Maybe Laughton out the door as well? But havent seen it posted anywhere. Thought he would have been a good 4th line center going forward3rd rounder …. from LA
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underwhelming. but traded (most) of the UFAs.
I assume Tre is not willing to wave the white flag and declare failure, im sure he thinks the Leafs could be turned around with some savvy moves, unfortunately he is not the one to be able to do it…imo
hopefully Berube and Tre are let go as soon as the season is over
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As expected, big day for the leafs!
LOL
Minor trades still may trickle in.
But it looks like only McMann and Roy out the door.edit:
Maybe Laughton out the door as well? But havent seen it posted anywhere. Thought he would have been a good 4th line center going forward3rd rounder …. from LA
Becomes a second if they make the playoffs.
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I was told repeatedly the Leafs would get first round picks plural because so many GM’s are retarded.
What happened there?
I guess not everyone was in GM mode of their video game. 🤷♂️
Incoming shoulder surgery for the self proclaimed smartest guy on this site as he punches air for hours now. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Kadri to the Avs, holy fuck, they’re FOR SURE my team now.
Wow.
Happy for Kadri – wonder what it cost the Av’s?
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thats what I was thinking, they could probably squeeze one 1st out of someone. but doubt much more.
Tre way overpaid for Carlo and Laughton, now he will sell at a big loss. if he even trades them.this guy is smrt
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thats what I was thinking, they could probably squeeze one 1st out of someone. but doubt much more.
Tre way overpaid for Carlo and Laughton, now he will sell at a big loss. if he even trades them.this guy is smrt
nailed it. got one 1st. not much more. sold Laughton at a lossThe only way Laughton makes any sense is the overpayment was due to him being bought to finish last year, those playoffs, and this year and what was expected to be playoffs as well. Philly also held half his contract. So it makes the price of selling him for nothing more than a third, being a half priced guy, even worse, unless he’s just a rental that they’re planning to resign in the off-season. Not my idea, I’m just wondering if they’re thinking this.
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Kadri to the Avs, holy fuck, they’re FOR SURE my team now.
Wow.
Happy for Kadri – wonder what it cost the Av’s?
I don’t know the prospects but they gave up a first conditional on the leafs first for Roy. So center depth is McKinnon, Nelson, Kadri and Roy. Pretty solid.
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The only way Laughton makes any sense is the overpayment was due to him being bought to finish last year, those playoffs, and this year and what was expected to be playoffs as well. Philly also held half his contract. So it makes the price of selling him for nothing more than a third, being a half priced guy, even worse, unless he’s just a rental that they’re planning to resign in the off-season. Not my idea, I’m just wondering if they’re thinking this.
I will add that according to Tree there was little to no retention needed in the league this year. Too many sellers as well. This is a deadline that saw both Kadri and Schenn move with 3 and 2 years left on their deals. Flames retained 20% and Blues retained 0 from what I can see. So laughton being cheap wasn’t as valuable as I originally thought.
They got Laughton last year and were division champs. Why would you not make a deal in that season? It’s only a 1st and they expected two playoff runs with him. Sadly the second didn’t come to fruition.
If we look and say a 1st, 3rd (condition to 2nd), 5th for Laughton and Roy I think everyone would be relatively happy. I’d like to hope the kings make the playoffs, give up the 2nd and the leafs resign Laughton.
Overall I give the deadline a C+. I still think they should have moved Jarnkrok, Benoit, possibly Maccelli as he is RFA and due for a raise above 3.4 million. Maybe stetcher or Carlo and even possibly OEL.
I do think the Carlo trade was a bit of an overpay but again, the leafs got the coveted RHD, under contract for last playoffs and this year AND next. Pricey to pay with only top 5 protected. Hindsight is 20/20 though. If they beat the Panthers last year, are we talking the same thing?
I heard rumblings of Stolarz being moved and I suspect a goalie will be gone in the summer. Hildebeast is no longer waiver exempt next year so they likely have to move off one of the guys.
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Treliving, as usual, failed. There were comparable players like Carlson and Faulk that went for a 1st++ and they didn’t move OEL. They could always move him in the future but that’s assuming he doesn’t fall off a cliff. He played better than expected this year on a bad team. They should have sold high before he gets Tanev’d.
Treliving did well to get a 1st for Roy but failed miserably on McMann and Laughton. It’s better to get at least a 2nd or a 3rd rather than nothing at all but Treliving needed to squeeze more. Maybe he’s just shit at working the phones and selling his assets. Stecher played well enough to get something, even a 3rd round pick.
Getting a 1st, 2nd, 3rd (maybe 2nd), 4th and 5th round pick is not terrible but also not good enough either. It’s a return fitting for this team; mediocre. It won’t make them a contender again next year and knowing this team, those picks will be either wasted or traded in a futile attempt to become a wild card team built for a 1st round exit. That can only change if management changes. A great GM could turn those picks into quality contributing players on a contender. But Treliving ain’t that guy.
One thing is for damn certain, Treliving blamed himself for the failure of this team and yet walks away with ZERO accountability. If he is truly blaming himself and accepting responsibility and accountability he should have quit long before today. Instead, he throws out some bullshit lines to the media, all the talking heads and retarded fans alike shrug their shoulders and Treliving gets to run it all back again next year. He works another draft, he works another July 1st and the Leafs trot out the same pile of shit they had this year. Rinse, repeat.
This team needs a full rebuild and instead they will get a replay of the Kessel years. You’re welcome and enjoy the ticket price increase.
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I will add that according to Tree there was little to no retention needed in the league this year. Too many sellers as well. This is a deadline that saw both Kadri and Schenn move with 3 and 2 years left on their deals. Flames retained 20% and Blues retained 0 from what I can see. So laughton being cheap wasn’t as valuable as I originally thought.
They got Laughton last year and were division champs. Why would you not make a deal in that season? It’s only a 1st and they expected two playoff runs with him. Sadly the second didn’t come to fruition.
If we look and say a 1st, 3rd (condition to 2nd), 5th for Laughton and Roy I think everyone would be relatively happy. I’d like to hope the kings make the playoffs, give up the 2nd and the leafs resign Laughton.
Overall I give the deadline a C+. I still think they should have moved Jarnkrok, Benoit, possibly Maccelli as he is RFA and due for a raise above 3.4 million. Maybe stetcher or Carlo and even possibly OEL.
I do think the Carlo trade was a bit of an overpay but again, the leafs got the coveted RHD, under contract for last playoffs and this year AND next. Pricey to pay with only top 5 protected. Hindsight is 20/20 though. If they beat the Panthers last year, are we talking the same thing?
I heard rumblings of Stolarz being moved and I suspect a goalie will be gone in the summer. Hildebeast is no longer waiver exempt next year so they likely have to move off one of the guys.
Yeah, the only repeated decent draws seemed to be d men this year, agreed. We will see what the leafs are doing to move longer contracts out this off-season, which as you know thankfully are never typically deadline moves lol. I also think it’s safe to consider the returns on these forwards were a bit low this year because the UFA group is looking a bit weak. So them and their agents likely weren’t on board with agreeing to an extension as part of a deal since the open market might pay out nicely this year. Hence why they didn’t draw all that much, since they’re nothing more than rentals for a couple of months.
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Why all the doom and gloom. When Matthews returns from the Olympics the Leafs will have a solid 2nd line checking center to start the rebuild.
It’s looking like they need a new coach to bring him back, and I seriously mean drive the car lol
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I can almost guarantee MLSE will not allow a tear down followed by a rebuild starting now. They are gonna milk this ca$chow as long as possible as usual.
As usual they will try to Bandaid this thing, and they will fail. Pelley has the option of firing Treliving. But if the next GM is told not to rebuild, they will know this is doomed to fail. Too many holes, too many needs, not enough assets. What credible GM is going to want to take on a plan doomed to fail, only have to admit failure and rebuild in a year or two?
My best guess is Tree will be back. Because this is the Leafs, after all, and they will do the exact opposite of what they should do.
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I can almost guarantee MLSE will not allow a tear down followed by a rebuild starting now. They are gonna milk this ca$chow as long as possible as usual.
As usual they will try to Bandaid this thing, and they will fail. Pelley has the option of firing Treliving. But if the next GM is told not to rebuild, they will know this is doomed to fail. Too many holes, too many needs, not enough assets. What credible GM is going to want to take on a plan doomed to fail, only have to admit failure and rebuild in a year or two?
My best guess is Tree will be back. Because this is the Leafs, after all, and they will do the exact opposite of what they should do.
This is exactly I was thinking is going to happen.
They need to sell tickets and it happens every single year.
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I can almost guarantee MLSE will not allow a tear down followed by a rebuild starting now. They are gonna milk this ca$chow as long as possible as usual.
As usual they will try to Bandaid this thing, and they will fail. Pelley has the option of firing Treliving. But if the next GM is told not to rebuild, they will know this is doomed to fail. Too many holes, too many needs, not enough assets. What credible GM is going to want to take on a plan doomed to fail, only have to admit failure and rebuild in a year or two?
My best guess is Tree will be back. Because this is the Leafs, after all, and they will do the exact opposite of what they should do.
It’s looking like won’t take that long, remember Matthews is a western American boy so he didn’t grow up watching the leafs, their games would have been on at f’n supper time for him, so if they don’t get their shit back together in a hurry he’ll bail, head back to the US, and likely play over in the west.
And when that happens the leafs will be a bunch of old guys, Nylander, some half decent younger guys and that’s it, nobody decent will sign here because of it and they will forced into a rebuild. I’m guessing 1 more year tops and if they suck ass again they sell Matthews July 2nd 2027 in his final year at half the cap hit once everything but $900K has been paid to him. The return would be sweet.
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It’s looking like won’t take that long, remember Matthews is a western American boy so he didn’t grow up watching the leafs, their games would have been on at f’n supper time for him, so if they don’t get their shit back together in a hurry he’ll bail, head back to the US, and likely play over in the west.
And when that happens the leafs will be a bunch of old guys, Nylander, some half decent younger guys and that’s it, nobody decent will sign here because of it and they will forced into a rebuild. I’m guessing 1 more year tops and if they suck ass again they sell Matthews July 2nd 2027 in his final year at half the cap hit once everything but $900K has been paid to him. The return would be sweet.
This is mostly correct.
The Leafs won’t choose to rebuild but Matthews can and will force their hand. If he decides to leave (he should), Nylander will waive his NTC and Tavares, in his old age, will realize he’s better off chasing a Cup elsewhere. Rielly will take a hike too.
If they run back the same team and don’t fire Berube, this team will suck again. The UFA market is empty. The available options are old and underwhelming. Will the Leafs overpay to entice old, former star players or mediocre players to join an obviously dysfunctional, bad team in a terrible market?
The wild card is if they fire Berube and hire DeBoer. DeBoer is the ultimate runner up coach. He can turn a team around and get them to lose in the Finals.
Matthews and Nylander could easily get the Leafs a boatload of 1sts, top prospects and young roster players. If the Leafs trade them both at the 2027 draft, tank 2028, tank 2029, by 2030 they have an excellent chance to return to the playoffs. Also, July 2029 gives the Leafs the opportunity to sign McDavid as he might be a UFA and the Leafs would have unlimited cap space to overpay him while the rest of the team is still on ELCs.
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This is mostly correct.
The Leafs won’t choose to rebuild but Matthews can and will force their hand. If he decides to leave (he should), Nylander will waive his NTC and Tavares, in his old age, will realize he’s better off chasing a Cup elsewhere. Rielly will take a hike too.
If they run back the same team and don’t fire Berube, this team will suck again. The UFA market is empty. The available options are old and underwhelming. Will the Leafs overpay to entice old, former star players or mediocre players to join an obviously dysfunctional, bad team in a terrible market?
The wild card is if they fire Berube and hire DeBoer. DeBoer is the ultimate runner up coach. He can turn a team around and get them to lose in the Finals.
Matthews and Nylander could easily get the Leafs a boatload of 1sts, top prospects and young roster players. If the Leafs trade them both at the 2027 draft, tank 2028, tank 2029, by 2030 they have an excellent chance to return to the playoffs. Also, July 2029 gives the Leafs the opportunity to sign McDavid as he might be a UFA and the Leafs would have unlimited cap space to overpay him while the rest of the team is still on ELCs.
Yup, that’s my guess, until their primary asset/captain bails on the team not much will change. The goaltending and D won’t get mixed up without deals and the forward moves will sound bigger than they are in the media.
However once Matthews decides to head out I can see ownership keeping some of the valid youth and dropping/moving everything else to simply start over again, hopefully this time around they choose experienced leadership upstairs, and yes I’m dating that point back to Dubas and Keefe as well.
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I agree Doz. Going with both a green GM and coach was a massive misjudgment by Shanahan, who was a green president himself. None of them knew how to handle it.
Yeah, I’m no JT hater by any means but they shouldn’t have signed him and just rolled with Kadri. Also the deal tossed at Rielly was far too kind for what he is. I wouldn’t have even hated the price tag without a NMC. I hope he’s reaching a point where he will personally want a fresh start on a new team, I assume it will be a pretty even trade unless he has one of his step up seasons but I’m not banking on it since he hasn’t looked good under Berube’s game yet.
Either way, let the younger guys play for the rest of this year along with the core and the primary guys that will be put up for sale in the off-season now *shrugs*
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before Burube Matthews was .75 goals per game with him he is like .40
Has to be some coaching impact if its just goals that matter. maybe some injury stuff idfkOh it’s both, the injury…at first. Then he had to recover into a new style, one which uses him against defensively more against the opposition’s top tier guys…I think? Maybe it’s out there with the hope he’ll be doing the offensive role more but he’s not? I don’t know.
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I took a day to digest what just happened at the trade deadline. It was abysmal and with a competent GM, they would have gotten more. On the up-side, they kept their defensive core intact. The 3 players moved were easily replaceable. Where do I see them going? I figure that now that the trade deadline is over, they’ll settle in with their current roster. At the end of the year, they’ll fire the Coach and GM. While the playoffs continue, they’ll cull together who they want as GM and he’ll bring in his own coaching staff. If I had my way, it would be the Hunter’s but I’m guessing it’ll be a more established GM and Coach. What needs to happen is the gutting of the bottom 2 lines of the roster. Through free agency, they need to find a competent winger that can play with Matthews and Knies. I wish that they’d consider moving Nylander, while he’s still near the top of his game. It’s there they recoup picks and or a blue chip prospect. I’d like to see him traded to Utah in exchange for Logan Cooley. Put Cooley at second line centre and move Tavares to the wing. Get younger and move some salary. If Utah makes it into the playoffs, they might see it as an opportunity to advance, next year, with a 40 goal scorer. Leafs might need to sweeten the deal, but if it’s manageable, make that move. Next, moving a goaltender. It depends what the offer is for any of the 3. If it’s for one of the younger goalies, make sure it’s a tangible young asset, either on the wing or on defense. Lastly, Morgan Rielly. I’m not sure about the structure of his contract, but if there’s a signing bonus, wait until after July 1st and find a new home elsewhere. Even consider a Darnell Nurse even up swap. At least Nurse has a physical element to his game, but he’s also overpaid. Is it worth paying that extra $1.5M per to make that trade? Maybe. In closing, it’s not hopeless. It looks like hot garbage right now, but with a proper GM and Coach, plus some free agents and a couple of trades, this team could bounce back into the playoffs next year.
One last thing. Boycott the games for the rest of the year. Boycott the team merchandise. Make it hurt in MLS&E’s wallet. Stop watching the games on T.V. Just stay away and let it burn. Who knows?
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I took a day to digest what just happened at the trade deadline. It was abysmal and with a competent GM, they would have gotten more. On the up-side, they kept their defensive core intact. The 3 players moved were easily replaceable. Where do I see them going? I figure that now that the trade deadline is over, they’ll settle in with their current roster. At the end of the year, they’ll fire the Coach and GM. While the playoffs continue, they’ll cull together who they want as GM and he’ll bring in his own coaching staff. If I had my way, it would be the Hunter’s but I’m guessing it’ll be a more established GM and Coach. What needs to happen is the gutting of the bottom 2 lines of the roster. Through free agency, they need to find a competent winger that can play with Matthews and Knies. I wish that they’d consider moving Nylander, while he’s still near the top of his game. It’s there they recoup picks and or a blue chip prospect. I’d like to see him traded to Utah in exchange for Logan Cooley. Put Cooley at second line centre and move Tavares to the wing. Get younger and move some salary. If Utah makes it into the playoffs, they might see it as an opportunity to advance, next year, with a 40 goal scorer. Leafs might need to sweeten the deal, but if it’s manageable, make that move. Next, moving a goaltender. It depends what the offer is for any of the 3. If it’s for one of the younger goalies, make sure it’s a tangible young asset, either on the wing or on defense. Lastly, Morgan Rielly. I’m not sure about the structure of his contract, but if there’s a signing bonus, wait until after July 1st and find a new home elsewhere. Even consider a Darnell Nurse even up swap. At least Nurse has a physical element to his game, but he’s also overpaid. Is it worth paying that extra $1.5M per to make that trade? Maybe. In closing, it’s not hopeless. It looks like hot garbage right now, but with a proper GM and Coach, plus some free agents and a couple of trades, this team could bounce back into the playoffs next year.
One last thing. Boycott the games for the rest of the year. Boycott the team merchandise. Make it hurt in MLS&E’s wallet. Stop watching the games on T.V. Just stay away and let it burn. Who knows?
I see what you’re saying, however two minor disagreements, those forwards weren’t worth anything this year, fuck even Kadri needed his contract sustained by Calgary to get a proper kick back for him, the only guys who got anything decent were D men. It was an overselling trade deadline because too many teams were selling.
As for the second disagreement, do what I do, stream it on onhockey.tv for free using the Amazon Silk browser on a firestick, that way nobody gets paid 👍
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Bobbyson to get a penalty shot !!!???
nope only a PP
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upcoming Leafs power kill . . . . . . . . . . . .
nice kill this time
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twas killed …
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Another game that’s barely watchable. This team is gutless. I thought the Kessel/Phaneuf years were the year of gutlessness. This is worse. The Leafs have two elite forwards and decent goaltending. But there is no heart, no compete, just playing out the string. What’s bothersome is the idea that they can’t be traded. Rielly, Matthews, Nylander…..can’t trade me if I don’t want to go. Buyouts are too expensive on these guys and the team should be shopping them after this season. This can’t go on any longer. Treliving and Burube are dead men walking. It’s not pretty.
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Another game that’s barely watchable. This team is gutless. I thought the Kessel/Phaneuf years were the year of gutlessness. This is worse. The Leafs have two elite forwards and decent goaltending. But there is no heart, no compete, just playing out the string. What’s bothersome is the idea that they can’t be traded. Rielly, Matthews, Nylander…..can’t trade me if I don’t want to go. Buyouts are too expensive on these guys and the team should be shopping them after this season. This can’t go on any longer. Treliving and Burube are dead men walking. It’s not pretty.
Thankfully the ones who “can’t” be traded are simply the ones who get to “decide where” they get traded. Ontario is high attention, high taxation, high media intensity. They’ll all take a trade to an ideal place, the answer to a Toronto NMC isn’t “nowhere?”, it’s “how many specific locations please?” lol
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Absolutely pathetic display from the Leafs. Berube hasn’t given up, hence the ridiculous goalie pull with 4 minutes left down by 3, but his team certainly has and it appears as though Matthews is the leader of the pity parade. Playing against the best team in the East the Leafs have nothing left to play for but pride and clearly they showed they have none. On home ice? Who cares! Just get absolutely blown out with no push back. The Leafs motto was “Pride. Honor. Courage.” and the Leafs have shown absolutely none of those qualities on the ice. Well, maybe one type of pride but that won’t win them hockey games.
Matthews is playing like Phil Kessel. He’s a multiple time 60, almost 70 goal scorer with 100+ points and his pathetic ass can’t find the back of the net once in 10+ games? That’s disgusting. He’s on every single PP. He’s playing 20+ minutes a night. And he can’t score? In case people have forgotten, Matthews has 26 goals this year with 52 points. He’s not even a point per game player. Fucking 26 goals for 13.25 million dollars? But the retards here will insist Marner was a “waste” of cap space. Guess what retards, not only did the Leafs lose a 100 point player in Marner but they also lost the 60 goal, 100 point version of Matthews too. Surprise motherfuckers, it’s exactly what you asked for.
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Just tank like there’s no tomorrow. With the rest of the schedule, I only see them possibly winning 4 more games. Those would be predominately against the West Coast teams. In the East, maybe beat the Rangers at home, but don’t bet on it. What a dumpster fire. I’m pretty sure that they aren’t recording this team for posterity. The only speck of brightness was Matthews winning a Gold Medal at the Olympics. You just want to get out and help push this team bus over the cliff to be rid of it. I’ve now fallen into the camp of a total rebuild. What is the area code for London, Ontario?
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Tre needs to fired asap.
Keep Berube to keep losing the rest of the season.But we all know the leafs are giving boston a top 10 pick.
My bet is on them keeping Tree because Leafs.
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Just tank like there’s no tomorrow. With the rest of the schedule, I only see them possibly winning 4 more games. Those would be predominately against the West Coast teams. In the East, maybe beat the Rangers at home, but don’t bet on it. What a dumpster fire. I’m pretty sure that they aren’t recording this team for posterity. The only speck of brightness was Matthews winning a Gold Medal at the Olympics. You just want to get out and help push this team bus over the cliff to be rid of it. I’ve now fallen into the camp of a total rebuild. What is the area code for London, Ontario?
And if Boston drafts 6th?
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My bet is on them keeping Tree because Leafs.
Yup, unless Pelley is fired.
I’d also bet on DeBoer, the ultimate runner up head coach is hired.
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None of that will work. Too many holes, too few assets.
I agree, however, if Pelley tells Treliving to go full steam ahead on this team, it could very easily get much worse, very quickly in terms of long term cap commitment. We’ve seen with the Tanev signing or the Carlo trade, Treliving has no problem destroying the future for short term gain especially when the guy above him gives him the green light and there is zero accountability for failure as was evident this year.
The Leafs have about 25 million in cap space. The UFA market is horrid. It’s filled with former stars who are too old to really make a difference (Ovechkin, Malkin, Carlson etc.) and potential contract anchors looking to hit the career year pay day.
Assuming the Leafs fire Berube and hire DeBoer then splash every penny they have left on UFAs, they could try to convince Matthews and the dumbest of Leafs fans that they can “re-tool on the fly”. It won’t actually work but it would be great for headlines and sell hopeium.
If they can’t get rid of Rielly (they probably won’t) or anybody else but they swing at every UFA they can and splash that 25 million on players like Raddysh or Andersson, Coyle or Schmaltz and Tuch or Schwartz. Throw in another “home town kid” story like Laughton or Boone Jenner and then the team could look like this…
Knies | Matthews | Tuch or Schwartz (@8.25 AAV)
Cowan | Tavares | Nylander
Joshua | Coyle or Schmaltz (@6.25 AAV) | Domi
Lorentz | Jenner or Laughton (@2.25 AAV) | RobertsonOEL | Tanev
McCabe | Raddysh or Andersson (@8.25 AAV)
Rielly | CarloWoll | Stolarz
Coach: DeBoer
That’s a pretty mediocre team (wild card potential but not a contender or a Cup winner) but that’s what Pelley and Treliving would try to sell as a best case scenario on a UFA re-tool if they hit every UFA home run they can hit. And that really is the best case in terms of price and the only “quality” players out there. That’s how weak the UFA market is for 2026. Odds are though, those guys don’t want to join this dumpster fire of a franchise as the ship is sinking. Trades will be limited considering how few picks and prospects the Leafs have.
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It’s looking like won’t take that long, remember Matthews is a western American boy so he didn’t grow up watching the leafs, their games would have been on at f’n supper time for him, so if they don’t get their shit back together in a hurry he’ll bail, head back to the US, and likely play over in the west.
And when that happens the leafs will be a bunch of old guys, Nylander, some half decent younger guys and that’s it, nobody decent will sign here because of it and they will forced into a rebuild. I’m guessing 1 more year tops and if they suck ass again they sell Matthews July 2nd 2027 in his final year at half the cap hit once everything but $900K has been paid to him. The return would be sweet.[/quote]
Meh, we’ve heard the matthews is leaving thing before, all conjecture.
Supper time is the perfect time to watch a hockey game as a kid, Im sure some of the coyotes games were actually on at that time.He’s the captain of the leafs, during good and bad times. Its good for him to go through some bad times as the captain, this is where we will really see what he’s made of.
He’s not a fan of Berube, so the leafs will probably have a new coach this off season.But lets be serious, this will be the first year in Matthews career that he wont be in the playoffs, thats a good run for him.
Also, Matthews has 1 goal in the past 15 games, he’s 36th in goals scores this season, 61st in points….so he wears some of the results as well.Tre really screwed the leafs with trading those 1st, I didnt like the moves then…absolutely hate them now.
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Meh, we’ve heard the matthews is leaving thing before, all conjecture.
Supper time is the perfect time to watch a hockey game as a kid, Im sure some of the coyotes games were actually on at that time.He’s the captain of the leafs, during good and bad times. Its good for him to go through some bad times as the captain, this is where we will really see what he’s made of.
He’s not a fan of Berube, so the leafs will probably have a new coach this off season.But lets be serious, this will be the first year in Matthews career that he wont be in the playoffs, thats a good run for him.
Also, Matthews has 1 goal in the past 15 games, he’s 36th in goals scores this season, 61st in points….so he wears some of the results as well.Tre really screwed the leafs with trading those 1st, I didnt like the moves then…absolutely hate them now.
The Leafs are leafing!I think you believe hockey players are attacked to their teams emotionally far more than they are.
His favourite team was the coyotes, stayed watching their games when he was 2, with fav players like Doan and Brière. He’s a western boy, the end.
Even Sundin left the leafs, and the leafs have next to nothing in their prospect pool, next to no picks coming up, and basically nothing young to trade for some desperately needed younger D that’s stuck with Rielly who is collapsing talent wise til when they’re willing to hold onto some of his salary to move him.
Sorry, I highly doubt Matthews will stick around for what will turn around into another rebuild. This team won’t be looking good enough by July 1 2028 so move him 364 days earlier.
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Word out there among insiders is that Tree was shopping Knies on Friday, possibly to Montreal.
Tree is the same guy who said on Friday that they don’t have a plan yet moving forward.
Enough of the indecisiveness.
Pump the goddam brakes and fire Tree NOW.
They need a new president and GM, NOW.
Won’t happen until Pelley is fired. The same Pelley who has no qualifications to run the Leafs other than being a media executive so all he knows how to do is spin media.
Knies was also requested by Carolina for Rantanen when Marner said no and Treliving, at the time, said he was untouchable.
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Word out there among insiders is that Tree was shopping Knies on Friday, possibly to Montreal.
Tree is the same guy who said on Friday that they don’t have a plan yet moving forward.
Enough of the indecisiveness.
Pump the goddam brakes and fire Tree NOW.
They need a new president and GM, NOW.
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Would Barry Trotz consider not retiring and joining the Leafs ….
Then see if Torts would want to coach …..Trotz retired to spend more time with his family but he was a failure as an executive. Excellent coach but not made to be a team builder.
Torts wouldn’t work here either. He demands way too much accountability from his players and this core is blameless. That would end the same way it did with Babcock.
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Why is a guy who admitted he doesn’t have a plan considering dealing Matthew Knies??
MLSE is as low end as it gets.
Because his boss, Pelley, is also an idiot who doesn’t know how to run a hockey team and refuses to hire somebody who does.
MLSE won’t change until the fans force them to. I know Montreal Canadiens fans who own Leafs season tickets. Why? Because they have a successful business and know how stupid the average Leafs fan client is. They give them tickets, they close deals and MLSE charges through the roof for absolutely everything knowing that business expense accounts will be paying for everything.
Until the on-ice result is the sole reason for ridiculous profits, the incentive structure for MLSE to change does not exist.
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Calgary has six 1st round picks, eight 2nd round picks and four 3rd round picks in the next 3 drafts. That’s a solid start to a rebuild. That’s what the Leafs could and should be doing. And they could easily do it if they trade Matthews and Nylander at the 2027 draft which would lead to the rest of the pieces wanting out of town too, including Rielly and Tavares.
Leafs currently have two 1st round picks, three 2nd round picks and three 3rd round picks in the next 3 drafts. Matthews and Nylander could bring in, at least, four more 1st round picks (or elite prospects). Trading the rest of the pieces like McCabe, Carlo, OEL, Tavares and Stolarz could also bring in three more 1st round picks and two more 2nd round picks.
That would put the Leafs in a situation where they would have nine 1st round picks, five 2nd round picks with the 2028 and the 2029 1st round picks primed for lottery picks.
With the correct director of amateur scouting (Mike Futa should be considered), that’s a 3 year full rebuild, adding to Knies, Cowan, Robertson and Danford all under 25 plus the chance to give McDavid the max contract in 2029.
Knies | McDavid (if available) or (Lottery Pick) | 1st round pick or (elite prospect)
Robertson | 1st round pick or (elite prospect) | Cowan (or 1st round pick)1st round pick | Lottery Pick
1st round pick | DanfordWoll | 1st round pick (or 2nd round pick)
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Nick Suzuki was what Montreal got for Pacioretty from Vegas. That’s another example of the benefit of selling the previous generation to create the next one. And Matthews + Nylander would be worth WAY more than what Pacioretty was after he had 17 goals in 64 games.
Cole Caufield 15th overall pick. Demidov 5th overall pick. Slafkovsky 1st overall pick (not that good but still part of their group). Reinbacher 5th overall.
Lane Hutson 2nd round pick. Kapanen 2nd round pick.
Leafs need to learn from this and rebuild.
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Damn it, Leafs give up the first goal of the game..
and the 2nd of the game ..
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Damn it, Leafs give up the first goal of the game..
and the 2nd of the game ..
Pretty easy for that to happen when you get outshot 3 to 1.
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Leafs got 7 shots in 30 minutes of play.
It’s going to be really sad when Boston is drafting 6th overall after this nosedive after the Olympics.
yes it will
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Can Matthews get himself a PP goal here. like now.
With the Master Steve Sullivan PP scheme, PP goals are guaranteed.
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Can Matthews get himself a PP goal here. like now.
nope!
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power kill, the Leafs will do
need to repeat this … kill
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Leafs 5 points from Bottom 5, this is good. gotta get there now, no turning back
The odds of the Leafs winning the lottery might be higher than their odds of finishing in the bottom 5. It’s not enough that the Leafs lose, the teams below the Leafs, who also want to lose, have to win.
Boston is going to be very happy with the attempt. The Leafs will find a way to Leaf it up.
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People still watch leafs games?
Pourquoi?Yes? It’s called being a real fan, you go through both the highs and lows or you’re a fake fan who only likes the good times, the end.
Besides, there are still young guys developing in the lineup to watch, not everything is about winning.
Cheers.
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People still watch leafs games?
Pourquoi?because this is the team I cheer for win or loose.
what you want a divorce and go cheer for the Sens? I’m not Spatso …..
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People still watch leafs games?
Pourquoi?because this is the team I cheer for win or loose.
what you want a divorce and go cheer for the Sens? I’m not Spatso …..
I will cheer for the Sens….to beat Boston out of the playoffs. Hopefully, the Sens take a bite out of the Habs tonight.
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Yes? It’s called being a real fan, you go through both the highs and lows or you’re a fake fan who only likes the good times, the end.
Besides, there are still young guys developing in the lineup to watch, not everything is about winning.
Cheers.[/quote]
Oh a “real fan”, not this again….lol.
Watching a team that continually fails, shows they simply don’t care and aren’t inept enough to build anything close to a winner decade in and decade out. Gets kinda boring no? At least for me it has (and many others I know), and as I’ve gotten older I simply have other things to spend my time and energy on.
I mean its just sports entertainment, so no real impact on our lives anyway (unless you work in the field).But I would say with the leafs, it is all about winning…this isnt a rebuilding team (well it may be forced to be), its why tre blew two 1st rounders on a 4th line center and a 4th dman. Cause it was all about winning. Honestly, this team would be more fun to watch if they did have this years 1st rounder.
I could easily watch (and have) a young developing team….but this isnt it.
This is just a sad, sad team with no real direction, again.However, as we leafers always say, “there is always next year”.
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I just ran the simulator and the Leafs won ….
I wonder if they would pick McKenna with the 1st over all pick.
Another small, one-way winger?
That’s the sad part is even if the Leafs miracle a 1st overall pick, McKenna is so far away from what this team needs and doesn’t fix the problems they have.
They’ll win all the drunken bar fights after the game though.
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Again, even if the Leafs got McKenna, what problem does that solve for the Leafs? Even if McKenna scored 30 goals above replacement and was on the ice for ZERO goals against, they’d still be one of the worst defensive teams in the NHL and probably not a Cup contender anyway. McKenna is a very good offensive player but his profile just screams Taylor Hall 2.0. Not a terrible player to have but not good enough that the entire team can be saved or built around him.
Ivar Stenberg is interesting, a smallish winger who has never played in North America but he’s putting up numbers in the SHL that’s never been done before for his age other than the Sedins. He has a high hockey IQ, skates well, scores points but his size is always a question mark as the NHL has less time and space than in Sweden and some huge defenders will use their size and reach to box him out. Might be a very good player but not a franchise changer overnight either.
Keaton Verhoeff is much more in the profile of exactly what the Leafs need. 6’4″, 215 lbs (still only 17) RHD who can score goals, points, skates very well and high hockey IQ. If he becomes a two-way force that plays in all situations and big minutes, that’s the type of player that could turn the Leafs around if he maximizes his potential.
If the Leafs ended up with McKenna or Stenberg with the 1st overall pick because he’s “the best player available”, I would still trade Nylander. McKenna plays the same style and you could get a boatload for Nylander. At least two if not three pieces in terms of draft picks, elite prospects and a young roster player. That would give the Leafs more young assets as well as save cap space if you wanted to grossly overpay Matthews to not leave this sinking ship. Then again, when he’s scoring 26 goals for 13.25 AAV, you may as well trade his ass too and just use McKenna as the new centerpiece even though he’s not a center or a very good two-way player.
The next problem is, if the Leafs win the draft lottery this year, they can’t tank again until 2029 because the 2027 and the 2028 drafts would be useless to the Leafs as Boston would get the 2027 pick and the Flyers get the 2028 pick. They’re just fucked.
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one of these players is a small winger the Leafs dont need, the other is a winger they just traded but needed
Height: 6′0″
Weight: 180 lbHeight: 6′0″
Weight: 170 lb*I dont know or care who the Leafs would or should pick with whatever pick they end up with or without*
One of those players is a proven Selke candidate and the other doesn’t play defense. One of those players is a proven 100 point player who elevated Matthews to 60-69 goals multiple times and now that he’s gone, Matthews is down to 26 goals for 13.25 AAV. One of those players makes you look like a retard for wanting him gone.
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Again, even if the Leafs got McKenna, what problem does that solve for the Leafs? Even if McKenna scored 30 goals above replacement and was on the ice for ZERO goals against, they’d still be one of the worst defensive teams in the NHL and probably not a Cup contender anyway. McKenna is a very good offensive player but his profile just screams Taylor Hall 2.0. Not a terrible player to have but not good enough that the entire team can be saved or built around him.
Ivar Stenberg is interesting, a smallish winger who has never played in North America but he’s putting up numbers in the SHL that’s never been done before for his age other than the Sedins. He has a high hockey IQ, skates well, scores points but his size is always a question mark as the NHL has less time and space than in Sweden and some huge defenders will use their size and reach to box him out. Might be a very good player but not a franchise changer overnight either.
Keaton Verhoeff is much more in the profile of exactly what the Leafs need. 6’4″, 215 lbs (still only 17) RHD who can score goals, points, skates very well and high hockey IQ. If he becomes a two-way force that plays in all situations and big minutes, that’s the type of player that could turn the Leafs around if he maximizes his potential.
If the Leafs ended up with McKenna or Stenberg with the 1st overall pick because he’s “the best player available”, I would still trade Nylander. McKenna plays the same style and you could get a boatload for Nylander. At least two if not three pieces in terms of draft picks, elite prospects and a young roster player. That would give the Leafs more young assets as well as save cap space if you wanted to grossly overpay Matthews to not leave this sinking ship. Then again, when he’s scoring 26 goals for 13.25 AAV, you may as well trade his ass too and just use McKenna as the new centerpiece even though he’s not a center or a very good two-way player.
The next problem is, if the Leafs win the draft lottery this year, they can’t tank again until 2029 because the 2027 and the 2028 drafts would be useless to the Leafs as Boston would get the 2027 pick and the Flyers get the 2028 pick. They’re just fucked.
this sounds a lot like 2015 draft, when a lot wanted the Leafs to take the Big D (hanifin) who was exactly the type of player they needed and not the small winger.
Drafts dont solve problems right away, you dont draft for immediate need. Pick the player you think will be the best, dont care what position.I had many discussions with people on HB about the soft small winger the Leafs drafted who was going to get killed in the NHL as a rookie.
Right now is the time to tank, get a top 5 pick. They can retool for next season, dump Berube and Tre. They will have lots of cap space to try and make moves.
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One of those players is a proven Selke candidate and the other doesn’t play defense. One of those players is a proven 100 point player who elevated Matthews to 60-69 goals multiple times and now that he’s gone, Matthews is down to 26 goals for 13.25 AAV. One of those players makes you look like a retard for wanting him gone.
solid points, Leafs should draft the player who has scored 100 points in the NHL
Marner is long gone, time to move on from the cry fest. its the pros. shit happens
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Oh a “real fan”, not this again….lol.
Watching a team that continually fails, shows they simply don’t care and aren’t inept enough to build anything close to a winner decade in and decade out. Gets kinda boring no? At least for me it has (and many others I know), and as I’ve gotten older I simply have other things to spend my time and energy on.
I mean its just sports entertainment, so no real impact on our lives anyway (unless you work in the field).But I would say with the leafs, it is all about winning…this isnt a rebuilding team (well it may be forced to be), its why tre blew two 1st rounders on a 4th line center and a 4th dman. Cause it was all about winning. Honestly, this team would be more fun to watch if they did have this years 1st rounder.
I could easily watch (and have) a young developing team….but this isnt it.
This is just a sad, sad team with no real direction, again.However, as we leafers always say, “there is always next year”.
Damn you leafs lol.
😩 *you* lol
Are you seriously that emotionally attached to a sports team? I’m not. However I still support the positives on the team and yes they still have a small handful. Cowan, Robertson, Woll, etc for instance are examples.
Anyways life is a teeter-totter. If you’re going to enjoy the high spot you have to go through the low spot as well, otherwise you’re just one of those modern day brat kids who are spoiled as fuck (literally what I saw coming as a teen in the 90s hence why I was smart enough to never get married or have kids) who are always kept on the high spot and wonder why they’re numb and life is “boring” lol.
Seriously, “be a winner or you’re not worth my time” just makes you a spoiled fan who just isn’t a true fan and I’ll never see it otherwise.
Cheers.
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Maccelli!! The Leafs new star!!! 😘
just as long as he stay under 50 pts.
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was that a Domi cross check that’s sending the Leafs to the power kill….. ?
it was killed but Anaheim ties this game up!!
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just as long as he stay under 50 pts.
I feel pretty good he won’t land 20 more points, but, who knows during this season?
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Leafs to the power kill. . . . . . . . . . .
twas killed it was . .
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just as long as he stay under 50 pts.
Nevermind I just looked it over. The Leafs would ALSO have to make the playoffs and that’s not happening for it to become a second round pick for him. So score away Maccelli, score away!!
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just as long as he stay under 50 pts.
Nevermind I just looked it over. The Leafs would ALSO have to make the playoffs and that’s not happening for it to become a second round pick for him. So score away Maccelli, score away!!
Wasn’t sure if was “and the playoffs” ….
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Wasn’t sure if was “and the playoffs” ….
Me either, hence looking it up.
And another Anaheim goal… thankfully my kiss on the cup is because of that team lol
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come on Leafs
another power kill to killkilled it was .
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cheap shot by Gudas on Matthews.
hope he gets 5 and game.Leafs to the PP.
Tavares get this game tied up with a PP goal !!!!
BOO Yeah !!!!
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bye Domi …
Leafs to the power kill once againwhat a shorty for the Leafs !!!
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bye Domi …
Leafs to the power kill once againit was killed !.!
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Holy shit, a not very talented, but, a real leafs team won the game 👍
I concur as well .👍💙
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solid points, Leafs should draft the player who has scored 100 points in the NHL
Marner is long gone, time to move on from the cry fest. its the pros. shit happens
You brought up Marner trying to compare him to McKenna, not my fault the facts slapped you in the face.
It’s the pros but the Leafs are run by amateurs and the retards (you) loved their decisions. Here they are, last in the division.
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Anybody see that the Leafs PP is 6th in the NHL since Stevie Sullivan got called up to the coaching staff. That does not even count the 2 goals tonight.
Anybody else too retarded to realize that the Leafs PP has improved because of addition by subtraction and that Steve Sullivan is only 33% of the committee that runs the PP or is it just you?
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Holy shit, a not very talented, but, a real leafs team won the game
Obviously the Leafs won the game because Pezzetta dropped the gloves 1 second into the game.
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Anybody see that the Leafs PP is 6th in the NHL since Stevie Sullivan got called up to the coaching staff. That does not even count the 2 goals tonight.
Anybody see that the Leafs PP is 6th in the NHL since Stevie Sullivan got called up to the coaching staff. That does not even count the 2 goals tonight.
Anybody else too retarded to realize that the Leafs PP has improved because of addition by subtraction and that Steve Sullivan is only 33% of the committee that runs the PP or is it just you?
Not surprised with all the BS you spew that you forget that when the move was made you were adament the PP was not going to work WOOOOOO.
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Guess who said all these dumb things.
Hint the guy went on and on and on about how Sullivan hire was stupid and wont help the PP, but now that the Leafs have a top 6 power play over a period of 3 months Sullivan has nothing to do with it. LOL. Change the argument or shift the goal posts much?
“Lol Steve Sullivan, was Gary Valk busy?”
“Steve Sullivan had 75 career PPG goals in over 1000 NHL games.
William Nylander has 77 career PPG goals in 718 games. Matthews has 107 career PPG. Tavares has 157.
Just let Nylander be the PP coach while he’s on the LTIR.
Steve Sullivan can be Nick Robertson’s personal coach so he can teach him how to survive 1000+ NHL games being a midget.”
“I am going to guess that hiring a guy who has zero NHL coaching experience is probably going to end as poorly as it did last time when they hired a guy with very little NHL experience and even less NHL success.”
“The Leafs are doing what they always do; hire the most mediocre people to do the most important jobs. It’s no wonder they get mediocre results.”
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Guess who said all these dumb things.
Hint the guy went on and on and on about how Sullivan hire was stupid and wont help the PP, but now that the Leafs have a top 6 power play over a period of 3 months Sullivan has nothing to do with it. LOL. Change the argument or shift the goal posts much?
“Lol Steve Sullivan, was Gary Valk busy?”
“Steve Sullivan had 75 career PPG goals in over 1000 NHL games.
William Nylander has 77 career PPG goals in 718 games. Matthews has 107 career PPG. Tavares has 157.
Just let Nylander be the PP coach while he’s on the LTIR.
Steve Sullivan can be Nick Robertson’s personal coach so he can teach him how to survive 1000+ NHL games being a midget.”
“I am going to guess that hiring a guy who has zero NHL coaching experience is probably going to end as poorly as it did last time when they hired a guy with very little NHL experience and even less NHL success.”
“The Leafs are doing what they always do; hire the most mediocre people to do the most important jobs. It’s no wonder they get mediocre results.”
And AGAIN, too retarded to realize that the addition by subtraction (getting rid of Savard) is the real reason for the increase in production (and yet still losing games like crazy). Reality is, 66% of the PP being run by Berube and Lalonde with Steve Sullivan there to go on Tims runs.
Did you know the Marlies PP was operating at a 16% (22nd in the AHL) clip before he was hired? That’s not promoting somebody because of great success. That’s just calling up the next warm body. That’s why he wasn’t given full control of the PP; because he wasn’t qualified to actually run it and improve it. Credit to Berube and Lalonde for simplifying the PP but that’s, once again, eliminating the real source of the problem which was Savard.
Technically, Savard ran the 9th best PP in 2025 but the Leafs had elite talent that was scoring in spite of his stupid PP setup, not because of it which is why when things got tough in the playoffs, their PP looked useless (and failed to adjust) vs. Florida with only one PP goal the entire series. Much like how the Leafs PP is scoring now that the games don’t matter and will miss the playoffs. The “improved” Leafs PP is so powerful that it got a 60+ goal scorer that couldn’t score a PP goal for 10+ games. Not exactly utilizing their best weapon to it’s maximum potential.
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That Bérubé had to hang his team for there being no immediate response to the Matthews hit is embarrassing. He was clearly disgusted with their response, saying “there should have been four guys on him”. It shows once again how utterly lacking in character this group is. They got shamed into it by Bérubé between periods.
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And AGAIN, too retarded to realize that the addition by subtraction (getting rid of Savard) is the real reason for the increase in production (and yet still losing games like crazy). Reality is, 66% of the PP being run by Berube and Lalonde with Steve Sullivan there to go on Tims runs.
Did you know the Marlies PP was operating at a 16% (22nd in the AHL) clip before he was hired? That’s not promoting somebody because of great success. That’s just calling up the next warm body. That’s why he wasn’t given full control of the PP; because he wasn’t qualified to actually run it and improve it. Credit to Berube and Lalonde for simplifying the PP but that’s, once again, eliminating the real source of the problem which was Savard.
Technically, Savard ran the 9th best PP in 2025 but the Leafs had elite talent that was scoring in spite of his stupid PP setup, not because of it which is why when things got tough in the playoffs, their PP looked useless (and failed to adjust) vs. Florida with only one PP goal the entire series. Much like how the Leafs PP is scoring now that the games don’t matter and will miss the playoffs. The “improved” Leafs PP is so powerful that it got a 60+ goal scorer that couldn’t score a PP goal for 10+ games. Not exactly utilizing their best weapon to it’s maximum potential.[/quote]
Give Sullivan an acknowledgment that he is doing better job than the person he replaced for a green NHL coach.
Your hate is blinding you because you did not like who the Leafs choose to replace the PP coach.
Actually, the only time I’ve seen you happy here is when Roy got traded.carry on
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That Bérubé had to hang his team for there being no immediate response to the Matthews hit is embarrassing. He was clearly disgusted with their response, saying “there should have been four guys on him”. It shows once again how utterly lacking in character this group is. They got shamed into it by Bérubé between periods.
One has to wonder, perhaps Matthews has given up on his team (the goalless streak was ridiculous) and in turn, they’ve given up on him as the leader of this team. A disconnected group of guys that don’t care about each other (and I mean really show action, not just serve platitudes to fans in the media) can’t play well enough together to win anything in the NHL. Berube was just stating the obvious that every hockey fan and definitely every hockey player should already know.
The players on this team ultimately won’t care. Berubue will be fired, probably replaced by somebody like DeBoer and they will recycle the same team with whatever scraps they can find on the UFA market. The results will be the same and the retards will beLeaf “this is the year” again, next year.
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Give Sullivan an acknowledgment that he is doing better job than the person he replaced for a green NHL coach.
Your hate is blinding you because you did not like who the Leafs choose to replace the PP coach.
Actually, the only time I’ve seen you happy here is when Roy got traded.carry on
He’s not fully doing the job of Savard. He’s doing 33% of the job as the PP is run by committee. His PP in the AHL was bad and the Leafs PP in the NHL isn’t being fully run by him. He gets 33% of the credit on a losing team until he does 100% of the job. Also, in case you haven’t noticed, Matthews has been worthless on the PP, regardless of who the coach has been. He only has 5 PP goals. The PP% going up in a bunch of games they’re losing in a lost season isn’t cause for celebration yet. If the PP takes a guy like Matthews, who should have 15-20 PP goals and turns him into a 5 PP goal scorer, they’re obviously still failing. Knies only has 4 PPG. Nylander only has 6 PPG. Tavares only 8 PPG. It’s not just about the PP%. Their best weapons are floundering. These guys use to have 10-20 PPG each in previous seasons. They took an elite group of offensive weapons, turned them into the worst in the NHL and now celebrating because they’re kind of average?
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Leafs won, thats no good
also just paid 1.60 for gas. amazing! cant wait for it to go much higher
Keep voting for carbon taxes.
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Guess who said all these dumb things.
Hint the guy went on and on and on about how Sullivan hire was stupid and wont help the PP, but now that the Leafs have a top 6 power play over a period of 3 months Sullivan has nothing to do with it. LOL. Change the argument or shift the goal posts much?
“Lol Steve Sullivan, was Gary Valk busy?”
“Steve Sullivan had 75 career PPG goals in over 1000 NHL games.
William Nylander has 77 career PPG goals in 718 games. Matthews has 107 career PPG. Tavares has 157.
Just let Nylander be the PP coach while he’s on the LTIR.
Steve Sullivan can be Nick Robertson’s personal coach so he can teach him how to survive 1000+ NHL games being a midget.”
“I am going to guess that hiring a guy who has zero NHL coaching experience is probably going to end as poorly as it did last time when they hired a guy with very little NHL experience and even less NHL success.”
“The Leafs are doing what they always do; hire the most mediocre people to do the most important jobs. It’s no wonder they get mediocre results.”
And AGAIN, too retarded to realize that the addition by subtraction (getting rid of Savard) is the real reason for the increase in production (and yet still losing games like crazy). Reality is, 66% of the PP being run by Berube and Lalonde with Steve Sullivan there to go on Tims runs.
Did you know the Marlies PP was operating at a 16% (22nd in the AHL) clip before he was hired? That’s not promoting somebody because of great success. That’s just calling up the next warm body. That’s why he wasn’t given full control of the PP; because he wasn’t qualified to actually run it and improve it. Credit to Berube and Lalonde for simplifying the PP but that’s, once again, eliminating the real source of the problem which was Savard.
Technically, Savard ran the 9th best PP in 2025 but the Leafs had elite talent that was scoring in spite of his stupid PP setup, not because of it which is why when things got tough in the playoffs, their PP looked useless (and failed to adjust) vs. Florida with only one PP goal the entire series. Much like how the Leafs PP is scoring now that the games don’t matter and will miss the playoffs. The “improved” Leafs PP is so powerful that it got a 60+ goal scorer that couldn’t score a PP goal for 10+ games. Not exactly utilizing their best weapon to it’s maximum potential.
Subtract Marner, add Sullivan and it improved. So Stevie even made up for the loss of PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist MM
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And AGAIN, too retarded to realize that the addition by subtraction (getting rid of Savard) is the real reason for the increase in production (and yet still losing games like crazy). Reality is, 66% of the PP being run by Berube and Lalonde with Steve Sullivan there to go on Tims runs.
Did you know the Marlies PP was operating at a 16% (22nd in the AHL) clip before he was hired? That’s not promoting somebody because of great success. That’s just calling up the next warm body. That’s why he wasn’t given full control of the PP; because he wasn’t qualified to actually run it and improve it. Credit to Berube and Lalonde for simplifying the PP but that’s, once again, eliminating the real source of the problem which was Savard.
Technically, Savard ran the 9th best PP in 2025 but the Leafs had elite talent that was scoring in spite of his stupid PP setup, not because of it which is why when things got tough in the playoffs, their PP looked useless (and failed to adjust) vs. Florida with only one PP goal the entire series. Much like how the Leafs PP is scoring now that the games don’t matter and will miss the playoffs. The “improved” Leafs PP is so powerful that it got a 60+ goal scorer that couldn’t score a PP goal for 10+ games. Not exactly utilizing their best weapon to it’s maximum potential.
Give Sullivan an acknowledgment that he is doing better job than the person he replaced for a green NHL coach.
Your hate is blinding you because you did not like who the Leafs choose to replace the PP coach.
Actually, the only time I’ve seen you happy here is when Roy got traded.carry on[/quote]
I think you killed his brain. One of the biggest goal post shifts of all time. Who cares how successful your PP is if the top players are not getting enough goals. Not to mention some of those goal totals have to do with the Leafs getting the least amount of PP in the league. I guess Stevie ain’t doing a good enough job showing them how to take dives. LOL
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I don’t get the love for this team last night. They hurt themselves in every way possible. We need them to lose, not win. We need to see some grit and toughness, but they shit all over the ice after Matthews got taken out. It took a rookie to go to war with Anaheim, yet the so-called toughness never materialized cowering on the bench. I’m so tired of retreads and trading away futures. This team needs a total tear down. Matthews being traded will allow them to replenish their draft picks and start rolling again. Enough of the dumbness in the front office. How about a bit of the Clash…..London Calling. Let’s see if the Hunter’s pick up.
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I was speaking with Mary-Jane last night about the Leafs and if they win the Draft Lotery.
That would mean the Leafs would have to give up their 2027 1st round pick to Boston with no condition attached to the pick.But what if Toronto trades the 2026 1st over all pick for a later pick say 4 to 6th pick in the 2026 draft and 2027 1st and a 2026 2nd round pick.
Then they could draft the RHD UG was talking about …. and recoup some draft picks.
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Subtract Marner, add Sullivan and it improved. So Stevie even made up for the loss of PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist MM
Marner would be #1 on the Leafs in assists, PP points and total points. Matthews also wouldn’t have a career worst 27 goals and 53 points either.
So congrats, you’ve won retard of the week.
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I was speaking with Mary-Jane last night about the Leafs and if they win the Draft Lotery.
That would mean the Leafs would have to give up their 2027 1st round pick to Boston with no condition attached to the pick.But what if Toronto trades the 2026 1st over all pick for a later pick say 4 to 6th pick in the 2026 draft and 2027 1st and a 2026 2nd round pick.
Then they could draft the RHD UG was talking about …. and recoup some draft picks.
how cool would that beThe biggest issue is the odds of winning the lottery for the Leafs are very small; between 6-10%. Even the worst team in the NHL, Vancouver, is 75% more likely to draft 2nd or 3rd than 1st.
The second issue with that idea is that Keaton Verhoeff probably won’t drop further than 3rd. I don’t think there are many, if any, teams out there that would give up a 1st round pick in 2027 just to move up from 3rd to 1st. Especially because, if a terrible team is a lottery team this year, the 2027 1st round pick is probably going to be another lottery pick and they won’t want to give that up. Neither McKenna nor Stenberg are good enough to justify that type of trade up value.
Maybe you could convince Boston to accept a deal where they keep the top 5 pick this year but have to give you the 22nd overall pick this year and the 2027 1st round pick. But would you want two late 1st round picks for a 1st overall pick? Probably not.
Like I’ve said many times before, the problems this team has can’t be fixed with just one lottery pick or one prospect anymore. The foundation of this team is clearly not going to change enough to make this team a winner or even a contender. Their window has closed. They need a full tear down and rebuild.
The Leafs have individually talented players but collectively are a terrible team with no 1st round picks. This has turned into the Phil Kessel era all over again.
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Subtract Marner, add Sullivan and it improved. So Stevie even made up for the loss of PP and 3 on 3 overtime specialist MM
Marner would be #1 on the Leafs in assists, PP points and total points. Matthews also wouldn’t have a career worst 27 goals and 53 points either.
So congrats, you’ve won retard of the week.
But not points per game. Anyone else notice that Vegas only has 2 more regulation wins than the Leafs. Only 2 and they get to play all those bottom feeders in the West on a regular basis.
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But not points per game. Anyone else notice that Vegas only has 2 more regulation wins than the Leafs. Only 2 and they get to play all those bottom feeders in the West on a regular basis.
Any retards notice VGK are #1 in games lost due to injury including to their goaltenders which has given them some of the worst goaltending in the NHL all year long?
It’s actually amazing they’re still in the hunt for the division lead with injuries and trash goaltending. The Leafs? Almost a lottery team.
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The biggest issue is the odds of winning the lottery for the Leafs are very small; between 6-10%. Even the worst team in the NHL, Vancouver, is 75% more likely to draft 2nd or 3rd than 1st.
The second issue with that idea is that Keaton Verhoeff probably won’t drop further than 3rd. I don’t think there are many, if any, teams out there that would give up a 1st round pick in 2027 just to move up from 3rd to 1st. Especially because, if a terrible team is a lottery team this year, the 2027 1st round pick is probably going to be another lottery pick and they won’t want to give that up. Neither McKenna nor Stenberg are good enough to justify that type of trade up value.
Maybe you could convince Boston to accept a deal where they keep the top 5 pick this year but have to give you the 22nd overall pick this year and the 2027 1st round pick. But would you want two late 1st round picks for a 1st overall pick? Probably not.
Like I’ve said many times before, the problems this team has can’t be fixed with just one lottery pick or one prospect anymore. The foundation of this team is clearly not going to change enough to make this team a winner or even a contender. Their window has closed. They need a full tear down and rebuild.
The Leafs have individually talented players but collectively are a terrible team with no 1st round picks. This has turned into the Phil Kessel era all over again.
An interesting concept. I’d say no, if it’s a top 2 pick, but 3 to 5, that might work. We still have to give Philly a 1st in the next draft, but that pick could also be protected, if the Leafs are at the bottom next year. Having the ability to grab an extra first in exchange for a top 3 -5 pick is something worth exploring. Getting out of this box of no 1st’s of our own for two years will keep the Leafs at the bottom for a much longer time. Boston’s 1st, this year, would probably fall around #20. It would get you a decent prospect. We may end up losing next years unprotected pick and that might be a bigger tragedy. It also pushes Philly’s pick another year down the road. So keep a top 2 pick, trade 3-5 if Boston wants to give up #20. Yes, I’d do that. By then, the Leafs will have a new management team in place with something to work with.
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So Gudas got 5 games for kneeing Matthews.
Any updates on Matthews?
Torn MCL. Out for 6 months if they do surgery.
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So Gudas got 5 games for kneeing Matthews.
Any updates on Matthews?
Torn MCL. Out for 6 months if they do surgery.
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This capticha is really becoming anoying BOYS!!!
when click on it is should accept that youe human and not a bot.
I have to do several capticha image just to post!!!!Come on man.
It’s a necessary evil to stop the spam bots since this site is running on a deficient budget.
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But not points per game. Anyone else notice that Vegas only has 2 more regulation wins than the Leafs. Only 2 and they get to play all those bottom feeders in the West on a regular basis.
Did retard notice the Leafs also lost a lot of points to trash teams? You’re bitching that VGK plays bottom feeders, meanwhile the Leafs, played plenty of bad teams they could and should have beat.
Here’s a list of losses to current non-playoff teams.
NJD, CBJ, SEA, CHI, CBJ, WSH, SJS, WSH, NSH, SEA, FLA, OTT, PHI, NJD and NYR.
They also lost to VGK twice and since they’re “only” in the playoffs because they play weak teams so we’ll include them in the list.
Now imagine a Leafs team that wins those games. That’s 17 games they lost against “bad” teams. Even if they won only 10 of those games (or gained 20 points), that’s the difference between being dead last in the division and being 1st in the division.
Just a reminder, Marner had 7 GWGs last year. That’s not even his primary skill. He probably had at least another 7 GWG assists. It’s too bad retards in the fanbase, the media and management ran him out the door. Growing up I always heard stories about how Harold Ballard ruined the franchise. If it wasn’t for him, they’d have won more Cups was the story. Turns out, different owners, same fans, same results.
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But not points per game. Anyone else notice that Vegas only has 2 more regulation wins than the Leafs. Only 2 and they get to play all those bottom feeders in the West on a regular basis.
Did retard notice the Leafs also lost a lot of points to trash teams? You’re bitching that VGK plays bottom feeders, meanwhile the Leafs, played plenty of bad teams they could and should have beat.
Here’s a list of losses to current non-playoff teams.
NJD, CBJ, SEA, CHI, CBJ, WSH, SJS, WSH, NSH, SEA, FLA, OTT, PHI, NJD and NYR.
They also lost to VGK twice and since they’re “only” in the playoffs because they play weak teams so we’ll include them in the list.
Now imagine a Leafs team that wins those games. That’s 17 games they lost against “bad” teams. Even if they won only 10 of those games (or gained 20 points), that’s the difference between being dead last in the division and being 1st in the division.
Just a reminder, Marner had 7 GWGs last year. That’s not even his primary skill. He probably had at least another 7 GWG assists. It’s too bad retards in the fanbase, the media and management ran him out the door. Growing up I always heard stories about how Harold Ballard ruined the franchise. If it wasn’t for him, they’d have won more Cups was the story. Turns out, different owners, same fans, same results.
Rattled y9ou so badly you had to comment twice on a 1 line sentence. Didn’t you recently say that it was bullshit that it was harder to play in Toronto? Make up your mind bitch. Try to stick to the actual exact working in the post rather than your angry little man syndrome deranged interpretation of it. Enjoy the game tonight!!!!
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We can argue with one another until eternity arrives. The big takeaway has to do with trying to win a Cup and overpaying for retread talent. We gave Treliving a chance to make the moves that Dubas couldn’t and he squandered too much of our farm system and draft capital. It was Dubas that made the mess by overpaying players on their future production and when they failed to deliver, the team was boxed in with overvalued contracts. I don’t like the idea of having a total rebuild but we may have no choice. Tavares isn’t getting any younger. Rielly is burnt toast and needs to be sent to another team or Robidas Island. Our only true assets are in goal. Our defense is old, but can still defend when healthy, but our forwards are the drag on this team. Matthews and Nylander are only a couple of years away from their 30’s and the team must cash out on them. If the deals can be done for younger talent and draft picks, they have to trade them. Yes, it will hurt, but doing a 15 year rebuild like Buffalo will be devastating. I won’t live long enough to see them win one more Cup. I keep hounding on bringing in the Hunter’s, but we’ve tried other routes and it’s been dismal. At least the Hunter’s never played in Toronto and their success in Junior Hockey, with the Knights, should be a breath of fresh air. I’d love to see McKenna as a Leaf, because he’s talented and has leadership skills that do not exist on today’s Leafs. We’re stuck with Tavares and Knies is the only bonafide young player that we have right now. Cowan is good, but is he a top line forward? I say no, but he could be a good second line winger. After that, Danford is the only NHL calibre player we have in the system. It’s a sinkhole right now with this team. Nylander and Matthews being traded will be the only salvation that this team can hope for, if they make the right trades. Mark Hunter….you’re on the clock is what we should hear at this year’s draft.
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We can argue with one another until eternity arrives. The big takeaway has to do with trying to win a Cup and overpaying for retread talent. We gave Treliving a chance to make the moves that Dubas couldn’t and he squandered too much of our farm system and draft capital. It was Dubas that made the mess by overpaying players on their future production and when they failed to deliver, the team was boxed in with overvalued contracts. I don’t like the idea of having a total rebuild but we may have no choice. Tavares isn’t getting any younger. Rielly is burnt toast and needs to be sent to another team or Robidas Island. Our only true assets are in goal. Our defense is old, but can still defend when healthy, but our forwards are the drag on this team. Matthews and Nylander are only a couple of years away from their 30’s and the team must cash out on them. If the deals can be done for younger talent and draft picks, they have to trade them. Yes, it will hurt, but doing a 15 year rebuild like Buffalo will be devastating. I won’t live long enough to see them win one more Cup. I keep hounding on bringing in the Hunter’s, but we’ve tried other routes and it’s been dismal. At least the Hunter’s never played in Toronto and their success in Junior Hockey, with the Knights, should be a breath of fresh air. I’d love to see McKenna as a Leaf, because he’s talented and has leadership skills that do not exist on today’s Leafs. We’re stuck with Tavares and Knies is the only bonafide young player that we have right now. Cowan is good, but is he a top line forward? I say no, but he could be a good second line winger. After that, Danford is the only NHL calibre player we have in the system. It’s a sinkhole right now with this team. Nylander and Matthews being traded will be the only salvation that this team can hope for, if they make the right trades. Mark Hunter….you’re on the clock is what we should hear at this year’s draft.
No doubt Dale Hunter is an excellent coach. Even in down years his London Knight teams show discipline in playing their system and the players stick up for each other. I do have my doubts he would entertain the thought of coaching the Leafs.
– He is 65 years old and only about 150 wins away from being the all time win leader in the CHL. I strongly believe that besides championships that is his main hockey goal
– He coached in the NHL for a part season and was very successful yet left to go back to the team he owns. I do not think he really cares about coaching in the NHL because he has never attempted to return.
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I see your point of view, but having his brother running the team and being paid big money might entice him. The ultimate hockey market and starting from almost scratch might entice them. They’ve won a number of Memorial Cups, but they don’t have a Stanley Cup ring. Let’s see if they have the stones to take on this Hindenburg.
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Leafs to the power kill
it was killed , they did
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Leafs are going to the PP >….>>>>…!!
that was a crappy PP
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Leafs to the power kill courtasy of Knies . .
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What else is new? Can’t win, can’t tank properly. It will playout like this: With the 6th pick in the 2026 Entry Draft, the Boston Bruins will select: Sad but true. You can almost take this to the bank. Yes, they played well tonight, but I think that the Sabres took them lightly. So let’s hope that they make it to Minnesota and lose outright and get this tank show moving. They just need to get to the bottom 4 and should get the 5th pick, since someone else will win the draft lottery.
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Rattled y9ou so badly you had to comment twice on a 1 line sentence. Didn’t you recently say that it was bullshit that it was harder to play in Toronto? Make up your mind bitch.
As usual, you make no fucking sense. It was YOUR argument that VGK were playing vs. weak competition. The facts just slapped you across the face with how many “weak” teams the Leafs lost dozens of points to.
Try to stick to the actual exact working in the post rather than your angry little man syndrome deranged interpretation of it. Enjoy the game tonight!!!!
Try to stick to the actual exact working? Is that English? Says the dipshit trying to change the subject from “VGK plays vs weak teams” to “Toronto is a tough market to play in”.
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What else is new? Can’t win, can’t tank properly. It will playout like this: With the 6th pick in the 2026 Entry Draft, the Boston Bruins will select: Sad but true. You can almost take this to the bank. Yes, they played well tonight, but I think that the Sabres took them lightly. So let’s hope that they make it to Minnesota and lose outright and get this tank show moving. They just need to get to the bottom 4 and should get the 5th pick, since someone else will win the draft lottery.
Management has no intention of tanking. If the Leafs gift the Bruins 6th overall, Treliving looks like an even bigger retard.
A franchise will never be officially “tanking” until they have two horrible goalies starting all the games. That’s when you know the tank is on. The Leafs have Woll and Stolarz in the net every game.
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There no “i” in Groulx
my bad …
Leafs to the power kill . .
killed it twas
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Leafs get a late period PP .. .. . …
and nothing comes of it
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Boston no longer picking in the top 10. For now…
The Leafs need to keep piling the W up
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Who is this Groulx and why is he scoring so much?
I like him…but go away until next year….we need a top 5 pick.
Really the only way to fix this teamA full tear down and rebuild is the only way to fix this team. One top-five pick won’t do shit but make this mediocre team delay the inevitable.
Matthews can and will walk as a UFA. He won’t be able to win here. He needs to go the Kessel route and so does Nylander. Be a secondary player on a true contender.
The Leafs need a multitude of picks and draft picks to fix this mess. One isn’t enough.
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Gudas shames the Leafs into competing.
Hilarious.
The revenge on Gudas is limited because the Leafs don’t have many goons left but they could call up Blake Smith from the Marlies for the revenge game. That way you have Pezzetta and Smith who can both take turns pounding on Gudas. I’d send at least 3 different guys to fight him. Sign Rosehill to a PTO if you have to.
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Gudas shames the Leafs into competing.
Hilarious.
Wont work.
Nothing has with this soft team for the past 8 years.Of course it won’t work for long, fake. For christs sake, I’ve been demanding change to this core for years on end.
It’s just so leafy that this shame induced compete level will screw up their possibility of drafting in the top 5.
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I see talk that the Leafs will let Maccelli walk?
why are they so dumb all the time? Tre is horendous at asset management, got crushed trading for Laughton then trades him for pennies on the dollar. fire him just for thatanyway hope its just stupid internet talk.
Maccelli is small and he sucks but he is an RFA and they will not let him walk. If he keeps getting garbage time goals, he could be close to 20 goals and 40 points. I can’t remember the last 20 goal – 40 point player that was not qualified unless he has a serious attitude problem.
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Of course it won’t work for long, fake. For christs sake, I’ve been demanding change to this core for years on end.
It’s just so leafy that this shame induced compete level will screw up their possibility of drafting in the top 5.
The “change” to this core was ruined when they let go of Kadri and Hyman. The core got worse when they extended Rielly to a huge, long term contract. The core was destroyed when they signed Tavares to a ridiculous contract that he never lived up to and forced the price of the rest of the core way up.
If this team had simply kept Kadri and Hyman, traded Rielly instead and never signed Tavares, they would still have Matthews, Marner and Nylander with a much better supporting cast.
The Leafs tanked and drafted high. They drafted a couple guys here and there that were useful. But they did not draft enough of them and traded away a bunch of them along the way.
Hyman | Matthews | Marner
Knies | Kadri | Nylander
Robertson | Minten | Cowan
HolmbergRielly | Durzi
Sandin | Liljegren
Benoit | Danford
MiddletonWoll | Hildeby
Looking at that list of Leafs draft picks, they absolutely sucked ass at drafted D. If they had kept their drafted forwards and just used the UFA / trade market for D like signing OEL etc. they would have been much, much better off than what they did by trading forwards, letting good players walk for nothing and blowing their load on Tavares.
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Happy St. Patrick day y’all
Yes, pray for Ireland because Ireland has fallen.
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Leafs get the first power kill of the game. . . . . .
this one failed ….
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Leafs to get their first PP of the game.
Islander had a better opportunity to score short handed then the Leafs at the man advantage
and there’s another pp goal for the Islanders ….
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I was gonna pop in here for the playoffs, but that’s not gonna happen, so here I am for the moment.
Where the fuck is everyone? I see some of you, but where is Wedgie, Skalapy, Whipper, and the rest of the crew?
Ok, I never thought I would say this, but it’s time to cut Matthews loose and burn it all down for picks and prospects.
What a fucking gutless and pussified display of impotence when Gudas assassinated Matthews. Gudas shoulda been taken out on a stretcher afterwards and the ambulance should have needed a police escort to leave the arena.
I only know Leafs and Lightning, but I can say if somebody murdered a Lightning player (any of them, not just the stars), it would have been an instant Pier Six brawl. Fuck Rielly. How dickless. And how bad must Matthews must have felt when nobody stood up for him. I used to think Edmonton wasting McDavid’s prime years was a crime, but Toronto is doing the same shit with Matthews. Auston is one of best two-way centers in the league and a generational elite sniper. He’s never tasted a deep playoff run and for what? Trade the guy while he’s still worth a king’s ransom. Then get the fuck rid of Tree and whoever else in the C-suite is responsible for this ongoing chronic mess.
It’s hard to keep rooting for this team when the ownership allows this shit to continue. Ok, so they trade Matthews and burn it down. Then what? Draft more Marners and Matthews and repeat the same mistakes? This Matthews era was supposed to be age of enlightenment after so many years of mediocrity and look how it’s worked out. I don’t have much confidence that the ownership can turn this around with the culture in place (or lack of culture beyond ripping off fans).
And Jesus Christ, has anyone looked at HockeyBuzz lately? Ek somehow made it even worse. People only went there for fantasy hockey and talking shit in the forums. Nobody gives a shit about the Buzztron picks or Ek’s rumors except Ek. He’s a legend in his own mind.
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I would Fire Tre/Burube at the end of the Season, let a New GM try and do an on the fly retool for 26-27, see how it goes. There is not point tanking next season.
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I would Fire Tre/Burube at the end of the Season, let a New GM try and do an on the fly retool for 26-27, see how it goes. There is not point tanking next season.
If its another tire fire, then look at trading Auston at the TDL or off season and go full scorched. AM will still have 1 full season left with his new teamThe real firing that needs to happen but won’t is Pelley. If that idiot is still in charge, nothing below him will improve, even if they shuffle the chairs on the Titanic.
You’re right, they can’t tank next season but they can still make it clear they plan to rebuild for 2028.
Make zero trades that cost picks or prospects. Only sign UFAs that you plan to trade at the TDL. Start asking for lists of teams from all players for their next destination.
I would actually keep Berube but fire Treliving. If you keep Berube, the pressure shifts to the players rather than blaming the coach (again) for the failures of the team. That pressure helps guarantee the players waive and get traded. If the Leafs fire Berube and hire a DeBoer or Laviolette, there could be a mirage of success where they become a wild card pretender.
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Nobody cares what you would do you fucking retard.
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To the normal Leaf fans in here – that lack of response to your captain’s knee being targeted by that piece of shit Gudas is sickening.
That being said I read something interesting – if that had happened to a Leaf player (say Nylander or Reilly since both wear an “A” and were on the ice and did nothing in response) do you honestly think Auston Matthews would have done anything to defend either of them?
The reality is no he wouldn’t, he’s proven 99 times out of 100 he’s not that guy and as such probably shouldn’t be the Captain.
Feels like it won’t be an issue in the next season or 2 anyway when he likely leaves to go somewhere else and not be the Captain and can just focus on scoring.
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Nobody cares what I would do because I’m a total fucking retard.
We know 23BigIQ aka Retard Ranger, we know.
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Nobody cares what I would do because I’m a total fucking retard.
We know that UG is the biggest fucking retard here – daily.
Oh how clever you took a post quote and changed it what a rebel you are? Like nobody else can do that, oh no – look someone has figured out how to copy your super stealthy methods!
And I have no idea what 23BigIQ means but it sure feels like more of the same retarded room temperature IQ, never played a lick of hockey in your life, was the punching bag in high school, living in your mom’s basement bullshit from you so not surprising.
Carry on jerkoff, maybe one day Mitchy will answer one of your 100000 “Dear Stan” type of letters you clown.
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And I totally know what 23BigIQ means
Yeah, we know, when you’ve been exposed as the totally retarded moron that you are, you switch names and pretend to be somebody else. Nothing new. Same retard that’s been getting wrecked and pretending to be somebody new.
Carry on Retard Ranger.
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I hope the Leafs don’t go on another Glory Run and kill an opportunity for a top 5 pick. You have to know that the Leafs will get down to 5th from the bottom and someone above them wins the draft lottery and pushes them to 6th. Boston gets to pick and they get a player that plays in their top 6 for 15 to 20 years. Sound familiar? They should just tie the can to Treliving and get their new Management team together and allows them to look at this piece of sh!t roster.
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I hope the Leafs don’t go on another Glory Run and kill an opportunity for a top 5 pick. You have to know that the Leafs will get down to 5th from the bottom and someone above them wins the draft lottery and pushes them to 6th. Boston gets to pick and they get a player that plays in their top 6 for 15 to 20 years. Sound familiar? They should just tie the can to Treliving and get their new Management team together and allows them to look at this piece of sh!t roster.
The time to plan a tank was 4 months ago. They can’t expect to tank with so few games left in the season with two healthy starting goalies. The Leafs getting a top 5 pick is a pipe dream at this point. They’re better off winning 10 games and just guaranteeing that Boston gets a bad pick.
Also, getting a top 5 pick this year won’t fix this team. In fact, it makes it easier for this idiot management group to “go for it” again next year built on false hope.
They need to wash this year and next year, trade Matthews at the 2027 draft, tank in 2028 and tank in 2029.
Rebuild. Properly.
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Looking at the Leafs schedule, they’ve played more than every other team. Many of their remaining games are on the road against teams close to them, in the overall standings. Lose a few key games, and they’re there! I just don’t want a Glory Run when it means nothing. I see a lot of love for Maccelli. Where was his production when the team could have used it? It doesn’t mean much during garbage time. Hopefully, they don’t qualify him because he’s just a filler on the wing. I wouldn’t mind the Leafs resigning Laughton, at the end of the season. First, let LA make the playoffs and turn the third into to a second, then just wait for them to lose in round 1. No thanks to McMann. He’ll be the next David Clarkson for the team that signs him.
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I hope the Leafs don’t go on another Glory Run and kill an opportunity for a top 5 pick. You have to know that the Leafs will get down to 5th from the bottom and someone above them wins the draft lottery and pushes them to 6th. Boston gets to pick and they get a player that plays in their top 6 for 15 to 20 years. Sound familiar? They should just tie the can to Treliving and get their new Management team together and allows them to look at this piece of sh!t roster.
So you would rather give up two unprotected 1st round pick in 2027 and 2028 for the Leafs first round pick in 2026. If the Leafs owned their 2026 pick, I’d be all in favor of a tank.
I don’t like this as the Leafs could crap the bed again next year. So, go on a run and get as many points as possible to get the pick in between 11 and 16.
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Looking at the Leafs schedule, they’ve played more than every other team. Many of their remaining games are on the road against teams close to them, in the overall standings. Lose a few key games, and they’re there! I just don’t want a Glory Run when it means nothing. I see a lot of love for Maccelli. Where was his production when the team could have used it? It doesn’t mean much during garbage time. Hopefully, they don’t qualify him because he’s just a filler on the wing. I wouldn’t mind the Leafs resigning Laughton, at the end of the season. First, let LA make the playoffs and turn the third into to a second, then just wait for them to lose in round 1. No thanks to McMann. He’ll be the next David Clarkson for the team that signs him.
I get what you are saying about Maccelli. Why let him go for nothing. There should be a team out there willing to part with a late pick for him. Like Vancouver.
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Looking at the Leafs schedule, they’ve played more than every other team. Many of their remaining games are on the road against teams close to them, in the overall standings. Lose a few key games, and they’re there! I just don’t want a Glory Run when it means nothing. I see a lot of love for Maccelli. Where was his production when the team could have used it? It doesn’t mean much during garbage time. Hopefully, they don’t qualify him because he’s just a filler on the wing. I wouldn’t mind the Leafs resigning Laughton, at the end of the season. First, let LA make the playoffs and turn the third into to a second, then just wait for them to lose in round 1. No thanks to McMann. He’ll be the next David Clarkson for the team that signs him.
You got this completely backwards.
Yes, Maccelli is small and he sucks but if he has value, why would you let him walk for nothing? That’s just stupid.
Speaking of stupid, signing Laughton is a waste of time. Unless you plan to trade him again at the TDL for another 2nd round pick.
I’m glad the Leafs got picks for McMann but they also let Hyman walk thinking he was going to be a big nothing and he ended up scoring 50. McMann doesn’t fix this team but if somebody signed him but he’s not necessarily going to be a garbage pylon like Clarkson was either. If McMann goes the “hometown” route, he could score a lot playing with McDavid and Drai.
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I hope the Leafs don’t go on another Glory Run and kill an opportunity for a top 5 pick. You have to know that the Leafs will get down to 5th from the bottom and someone above them wins the draft lottery and pushes them to 6th. Boston gets to pick and they get a player that plays in their top 6 for 15 to 20 years. Sound familiar? They should just tie the can to Treliving and get their new Management team together and allows them to look at this piece of sh!t roster.
The time to plan a tank was 4 months ago. They can’t expect to tank with so few games left in the season with two healthy starting goalies. The Leafs getting a top 5 pick is a pipe dream at this point. They’re better off winning 10 games and just guaranteeing that Boston gets a bad pick.
Also, getting a top 5 pick this year won’t fix this team. In fact, it makes it easier for this idiot management group to “go for it” again next year built on false hope.
They need to wash this year and next year, trade Matthews at the 2027 draft, tank in 2028 and tank in 2029.
Rebuild. Properly.
If the team tanks now, they don’t have their 2028 pick as it will belong to Philly.
Best they go on that Glory Run and give Boston a pick in the teens.
If the Leafs owned their 1st over all picks, I’d be right with you on the tank so they can get some new blood on the team.
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If the team tanks now, they don’t have their 2028 pick as it will belong to Philly.
Best they go on that Glory Run and give Boston a pick in the teens.
If the Leafs owned their 1st over all picks, I’d be right with you on the tank so they can get some new blood on the team.
Behr should be interesting.I agree with you.
The best case scenario is as follows:
Leafs go on a winning streak, shoot up the standings, Boston picks 12th-16th overall. Treliving is fired on the last day of the season.
Leafs hire Chris Pronger as GM and Ron Francis as the President of Hockey Ops. Pelley is told to stay the fuck away from the Leafs.
Leafs hire Mike Futa to run the Amateur Scouting Department. He did great work in LA, helped build winners, he’s local and looks like he’d take the job.
Leafs keep Berube as head coach. This prevents the hiring of DeBoer or Laviolette who could create a “wild card pretender” scenario for next season. Keeping Berube puts all the pressure on the players instead of giving them another excuse. They’ve had enough coaches fired already. Keep Berube until the core players are traded, then hire some rookie coach like Steve Sullivan to tank.
You make zero trades that cost draft picks or prospects. You only sign UFAs to short term deals that you can flip at the TDL. You trade Stolarz and run with Woll and Hildeby.
Run the 2026/2027 season out, Leafs won’t contend but won’t give up a top 10 pick to the Flyers either. Hopefully Matthews and Nylander put up some decent points to increase their value. You offload OEL, Tanev, McCabe; literally all depth players over 25 who gets you a draft pick. You make it clear as day to Matthews that his time is up in Toronto.
With 1 year left on Matthews’ deal, you trade him at the 2027 draft. After Matthews is gone to the highest bidder, Nylander would likely want out and so would Rielly, Tavares and everybody else. You acquire only 1st round picks, top prospects and roster players under 25. Should be able to accumulate 10-12 blue chips for all the assets. There’s also the possibility you could get a top 5 pick at the draft included in the package for Matthews or Nylander, depending on the situation.
Sign the worst goalie in the NHL available for tanking purposes.
Tank 2027/2028. Draft in the lottery. Tank 2028/2029. Draft in the lottery. Try to sign McDavid to the max contract if he’s available. Try to sign Rod Brind’Amour as head coach.
Contend in 2030 with a team loaded with new core players under 25, McDavid, Brind’Amour and cap space to plug the gaps.
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So it sounds like Matthews had knee surgery today.
OUCH !!!!!!MCL Grade 3 is almost always surgery if the player wants to recover to play pro sports again. It was expected. They probably just had to wait for the swelling to go down to do the surgery properly.
He’s actually really lucky it was just the MCL because the ACL recovery would have been much, much worse. PCL sucks too, McDavid torn his years ago and that one could have ended his career.
Hopefully, he’s allowed to take stem cells and peptides. That will significantly reduce his recovery time. Illegal in Canada, of course, so he’ll have to do that elsewhere.
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If the team tanks now, they don’t have their 2028 pick as it will belong to Philly.
Best they go on that Glory Run and give Boston a pick in the teens.
If the Leafs owned their 1st over all picks, I’d be right with you on the tank so they can get some new blood on the team.
Behr should be interesting.[/quote]Thats fine, push the 1st rounders out and get a top 5 pick this year. The leafs desperately need some talented youth in the organization.
LEafs have a 1st next year and it would give them time to improve so neither boston or philly are getting a top 15 pick.Unless the talk of trading knies and moving matthews to minny are true….although minnie doesnt have much that i would want that they would be willing to trade.
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Adios chuck!
Chuck wound up in the hospital in Hawaii, I hope the hospital recovers.
Chuck Norris didn’t die, he just decided to try living underground.
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Adios chuck!
Chuck wound up in the hospital in Hawaii, I hope the hospital recovers.
Chuck Norris didn’t die, he just decided to try living underground.
Chuck Norris worked as a lumberjack in a forest named Sahara.
When Chuck Norris was born he drove his mom home from the hospital.
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Carlo to the sin bin for 4 or less
power kill for the Leafs …just after they killed it, the Cans tie this game up.
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Leafs to the power kill once again in this game. . . . .
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I need a reminder of how great Vegas is and how much Marner is bringing to that team. What a hot mess, so glad we moved on.
well, they still have more W then the Leafs . LOL.
that’s all I’ve got. 😜
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Leafs to the power kill. . . . . . . !
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I need a reminder of how great Vegas is and how much Marner is bringing to that team. What a hot mess, so glad we moved on.
You need a reminder than Marner doesn’t play in net? Retard.
VGK is #1 in injuries and worst in goaltending. Literally the only reasons why they’re playing less than their full potential.
Could be worse though; they could be a lottery team with no draft pick like the Leafs.
Brandon Carlo looks amazing though. So glad we filled the team with pylons for that glorious cap space they “saved”.
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I need a reminder of how great Vegas is and how much Marner is bringing to that team. What a hot mess, so glad we moved on.
You need a reminder than Marner doesn’t play in net? Retard.
VGK is #1 in injuries and worst in goaltending. Literally the only reasons why they’re playing less than their full potential.
Could be worse though; they could be a lottery team with no draft pick like the Leafs.
Brandon Carlo looks amazing though. So glad we filled the team with pylons for that glorious cap space they “saved”.
So true babe. Sometimes these retards need reminders about our crush (70-78pts winger extraordinaire).
Especially than Marner doesn’t play net. Additionally, than Vegas has had injuries and worst goalies. Than Tre is also a retard for trading for Carlo. Also, than Carlo hasn’t worked out. Than Sully is a retard too.
So much than these idiot retards need to be reminded of. Anyways, enough ranting from me; than is enough of than, I’m going to bed.
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Nylander ended Stolarz. Nice guy.
Be lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him now, going to need to to move him for future consideration to Chicago.
Leafs got outshot for the 50th++ time this year.
so that’s, like 52 times? They were outshot this season?
PP hasn’t scored a goal in 5 games. Steve Sullivan must be proud.
I’d say he’s disapointed, the boys aren’t executing like he has drawn it up on the whiteboard. lol.
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I have been told, from the best source, the greatest source, that the overhaul of Leafs will be as follows:
Doug Armstrong will be President & GM.
Nylander will be moved to Hawks for their 1st rd pick this years draft…they will pick Verhoeff if he is available. They want a stud on the top pair.
Knies will be moved to Ducks for McTavish.
Leafs will move a prospect and picks to Wild for Wallstad.
These are the facts.
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Jets beat Rangers in a shootout! Perfect! 3 point game…..the Tank is real! More of this and more regulation losses for the Leafs.
80+% chance Boston drafts 6th-8th.
It’s not happening.
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