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December 10, 2025 at 9:07 am #53925
Steve from Glencoe
ParticipantThey were getting great goaltending and scoring on over 13% of their shots early in the season. Both are regressing. San Jose and Anaheim have passed them at this point. There does not appear to be any pressure from ownership, media, or the fan base to win now. Everyone has swallowed the Cool-Aid that Frondell, Kanserov, Lardis and others are going to arrive soon and turn this around. Bedard is in year 3 and just scratching the surface of what he will be. Those guys will take as long if not longer. It is past time for a bold move. Toninato is not enough. Quinn Hughes is moving. Hawks and Canucks have made many low level deals. Hughes has 1.5 years remaining on his deal and can get a 8 year deal if he resigns this summer. The CBA is going to reduce that to 7 to resign and 6 as an UFA. That change could potentially cost him $30 million. Hopefully Hawks GM is on the phone and figuring out what it will take to get him.
December 10, 2025 at 10:05 am #53930BetweenTheDots
ParticipantWell Steve Anaheim and San Jose have been rebuilding longer so if anyone passes anyone…..
I do believe we went 2-1 against the mighty ducks?
Also did you know that the Habs lost 2 games in a row this year total score 12-1?
You were the same guy who said the Blackhawks were ruining Bedard.
Steve always wants the quick fix.
December 10, 2025 at 10:50 am #53940LAHawk
ParticipantSo i guess the timeline only matters to you but not the 2 completely directions both clubs were going in at the time both GMs took over, cool.
So i guess the timeline only matters to you but not the 2 completely directions both clubs were going in at the time both GMs took over, cool.
What trades did Murray make that brought back any draft capital of significance? You don’t have to look it up, it was zero.
I guess if you have a bad record that means you are rebuilding. If that is the case then under your theory the Hawks are in year 10 of the rebuild.
December 10, 2025 at 11:03 am #53954Assman22
ParticipantThey said these were the moves they were going to make, KD even said something Blashill had said, when it gets to a point when we think a player is trying to survive instead of strive its time for them to be sent to the Rock to work on their game.
I think they are handling this season great.
I agree. From the outside looking in, there’s been moves I would’ve made a little sooner but they eventually made them and sure there’s a lot behind the scenes that they consider prior to making final decisions that we are not 100% privy to. Good on them thus far, keep it going!
December 10, 2025 at 11:13 am #53955BetweenTheDots
ParticipantI get it LA the grass is always greener with other teams
When did the Ducks trade 2 first round picks for an above average defenseman in that time line.
They did the smart thing and traded for a disgruntled forward who was drafted 5th OA.
Which gives them 2OA, 3OA, 3OA AND a 5th OA forwards group. Drafted in the past 5 years.
December 10, 2025 at 11:15 am #53957BetweenTheDots
ParticipantThe Ducks defense isn’t very good but hey the new trend in hockey is let’s outscore everyone
December 10, 2025 at 11:18 am #53959Steve from Glencoe
ParticipantI said they were ruining Korchinski. I said they were wasting Bedard because they failed to surround him with talent. They found a slightly above average winger for him this year and Bedard is approaching the top of the league. I also thought the coaching was subpar under Richardson and was skewered for it.
I don’t think Blashill is Q but is there anyone out here that looks back fondly on the Richardson years?
There is nothing quick about Davidson except collecting his check on the 1st and 15th.
December 10, 2025 at 1:49 pm #53994Dan Maloneys left hook
Participant<p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I said they were ruining Korchinski. I said they were wasting Bedard because they failed to surround him with talent. They found a slightly above average winger for him this year and Bedard is approaching the top of the league. I also thought the coaching was subpar under Richardson and was skewered for it.
<p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I don’t think Blashill is Q but is there anyone out here that looks back fondly on the Richardson years?
<p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>There is nothing quick about Davidson except collecting his check on the 1st and 15th.
Bedard worked on his body this offseason. He’s a different player than his first two years. Kudos to him for understanding what he needed to do. Now if he could just win an f’ing face-off.
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December 10, 2025 at 3:30 pm #54001TheREALWiz
ParticipantMotherfucker I lost a long post!
The mistke was to not start it elsewhere.
Steve Steve Steve, we aren’t ever angry about ylour strong opinion of Richardson, but I am not so sure all of us here just felt the Bedard era had to start somewhere and we were never thinking that Kye was filling the line-up to get them into contention, just getting guy he thought might handle the room for awhile and if lightning in bottle happened, greatI think that the board in general is willing to look for watch for growth, before wishing for any about face on Kyle / coach or anything.
On Quint I am with you 100%
They better try to convince Quinn that on road games there are no three beds in a room, and he might have to miss the 2026 cup finals but would have a chance to be a perenial participant.
The hawks would have selected him in the draft slot after the Canucks if they hadn’t taken him draft Adam Boqvist after him.I think I am very happy with the corps youngsters Kaiser, Vlasic, Levshunov, and 7th man defender Crevier and the 2 vets sandwiched along side of the FOR NOW.
Quint Hughes is just what that group sorely lacks, a Bedard-like puck carrier who is an offensive generator and finisher.
Sure, there might be an inclination to simply wait and hope that one of these kids, like Artyom Levshunov will evolve into that but they have no guarantees since he seems timid attacking off in offense zone as a FINISHER. Oh, he will take a shot but it almost like he has been following what he was told to be careful.
And Quinn Hughes feet and age are perfect to add him to the payroll now, because although he bites in the CAP, you them use any of the defensemen in the farm (Ethan Del Mastro, Nolan Allen,KK) who will all would love to see on injury call-ups filling in if the “other” hawk NHL defenseman start asking for large sums.
Too me the bargain is adding an advanced weapon, as contrary to using one of the 2026 first rounders to draft one of the plethora of Q Hughes types taht will get drafted around where they will be picking.
On Spector’s Hockey today, I said given up as an
Who needs two more first rounders in 2026 draft LESS that the Blackhawks?
Whose missing the exact type of backline attacker Quinn Hughes is more than Chicago?
They just need to get in Quinn’s ear that the absence of competing in the 2026 playoff would be a follow-up to many more years as the ‘hawks team grows. Personally never understood how the league easily helped Burkie get both Sedans.
Now the Hughes family is making quite the ask: Acquire other brother, stay competitive and moreover IMPROVE to a true Cup contender.
Does this mean the established Devil bros will take home town deals with THEIR re-ups?
Because Fitz sorted gets handcuffed into a cap situation that be a jam in further player adds.BUT…you do. Nit want to pursue a trade that implodes like the Rantanen one where you end results have personnel exchanged in a second trade that weakens the team now an long term, so get Hughes to commit.
On to Korchinski…
Ruined him?
The decision to get him out of the WHL on an NHL roster of one of the leagues worst teams at 18 to see just how fast things are?
Did it accelerate failure? Seems to me he simply got an up front reality check as to what he sees to improve.Is there some information that he has he has given up his development as Rockford Icehog?
His failure like every young skilled defender starts with what they started with and how they improve it.
Did they envision a Q Hughes with that early pick? I dunno but they wanted feet and speed and handling.
He builds on it or he doesn’t – it just doesn’t seem a debate point.
December 10, 2025 at 3:49 pm #54005TheREALWiz
ParticipantSteve Steve Steve, we aren’t ever angry about ylour strong opinion of Richardson, but I am not so sure all of us here just felt the Bedard era had to start somewhere and we were never thinking that Kye was filling the line-up to get them into contention, just getting guy he thought might handle the room for awhile and if lightning in bottle happened, great
I think that the board in general is willing to look for watch for growth, before wishing for any about face on Kyle / coach or anything.
On Quint I am with you 100%
They better try to convince Quinn that on road games there are no three beds in a room, and he might have to miss the 2026 cup finals but would have a chance to be a perenial participant.
The hawks would have selected him in the draft slot after the Canucks if they hadn’t taken him draft Adam Boqvist after him.I think I am very happy with the corps youngsters Kaiser, Vlasic, Levshunov, and 7th man defender Crevier and the 2 vets sandwiched along side of the FOR NOW.
Quint Hughes is just what that group sorely lacks, a Bedard-like puck carrier who is an offensive generator and finisher.
Sure, there might be an inclination to simply wait and hope that one of these kids, like Artyom Levshunov will evolve into that but they have no guarantees since he seems timid attacking off in offense zone as a FINISHER. Oh, he will take a shot but it almost like he has been following what he was told to be careful.
And Quinn Hughes feet and age are perfect to add him to the payroll now, because although he bites in the CAP, you them use any of the defensemen in the farm (Ethan Del Mastro, Nolan Allen,KK) who will all would love to see on injury call-ups filling in if the “other” hawk NHL defenseman start asking for large sums.
Too me the bargain is adding an advanced weapon, as contrary to using one of the 2026 first rounders to draft one of the plethora of Q Hughes types taht will get drafted around where they will be picking.
On Spector’s Hockey today, I said given up as an
Who needs two more first rounders in 2026 draft LESS that the Blackhawks?
Whose missing the exact type of backline attacker Quinn Hughes is more than Chicago?
They just need to get in Quinn’s ear that the absence of competing in the 2026 playoff would be a follow-up to many more years as the ‘hawks team grows. Personally never understood how the league easily helped Burkie get both Sedans.
Now the Hughes family is making quite the ask: Acquire other brother, stay competitive and moreover IMPROVE to a true Cup contender.
Does this mean the established Devil bros will take home town deals with THEIR re-ups?
Because Fitz sorted gets handcuffed into a cap situation that be a jam in further player adds.BUT…you do. Nit want to pursue a trade that implodes like the Rantanen one where you end results have personnel exchanged in a second trade that weakens the team now an long term, so get Hughes to commit.
On to Korchinski…
Ruined him?
The decision to get him out of the WHL on an NHL roster of one of the leagues worst teams at 18 to see just how fast things are?
Did it accelerate failure? Seems to me he simply got an up front reality check as to what he sees to improve.Is there some information that he has he has given up his development as Rockford Icehog?
His failure like every young skilled defender starts with what they started with and how they improve it.
Did they envision a Q Hughes with that early pick? I dunno but they wanted feet and speed and handling.
He builds on it or he doesn’t – it just doesn’t seem a debate point.
December 10, 2025 at 5:14 pm #54011Assman22
ParticipantWiz, I saw your mock draft had the Hawks selecting two Swede forwards (Stenberg/Nordmark) with their top two picks. Any elaboration on those? Would the Hawks really pass on Roobroeck for Stenberg? Curious on your thoughts and thanks in advance.
December 10, 2025 at 5:33 pm #54012CoachFrenchy
ParticipantIvar Stenberg has 6G 18A 24P in 25GP in the SHL. Ivar is projected to reach numbers we have never seen out of an 18y/o in the SHL. He is on pace for 12G 37A 49P in 52GP
Daniel Sedin has the record for 18 y/o point totals
in the #SHL 50GP 21G 21A 42PDecember 10, 2025 at 10:28 pm #54064BJPHAWKFAN
ParticipantDoes anyone believe that Kantserov will be in the NHL next season?
December 10, 2025 at 10:34 pm #54065BetweenTheDots
ParticipantSomehow someway Blackhawks shut out the Rangers tonight, it’s a young team learning in the NHL.
That 3rd period was a clinic hope to see that more often.
Blackhawks give up 13 goals in 2 games, looks terrible
Blackhawks give up 14 goals in 4 games it doesn’t look as bad
December 11, 2025 at 1:21 am #54077TheREALWiz
ParticipantSince the draft and final standings are still so in flux to me, you’ll see me play with the list so I can try an attempt guess what will be there for the picks.
Yeah, as Frenchy said the little brother Ivar that boasted to Glencoe Steve’s kid that he would be coming in 2 yrs. certainly backed it up, so far and he’s all game competitor who fears nothing, so far.Unless the win a lottery move, I see those picks as being made by the ‘hawks, unless they acquire a high salaried scorer.
They might lean CJ Reid, and Ryan Roobroeck a big kid you wait for, will go sometime mid round especialy a bit later if there is a run on the run n gun offensive men.
I like two Finns Oscar Suvanto and Hemming equally as much as the mid late round Nordmark,Hermansson, and Malte Gustaffson Swedish kids and one plays in Djurgårdens IF J20 will get great intel from like Jack Hextall, Kruger and scouts.
They may target a home run type Simon Katolicý (hit or miss) or really check for a future Quinn Hughes.Centres like Jack Hextall Colin Fitzgerald, and i the first round Brantford’s Caleb Malhotra you they see a lot of…
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