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    • #23858
      boilermaker
      Participant

      In addition to Coach Frenchy’s regular blogs, this forum has been created to discuss any Blackhawks thoughts related to roster development, prospect news, projected lineups, game day chat, actual trades, fantasy trades, rumors, free agent signings and whatever else hockey news everyone want to discuss.

    • #23870
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      This is an awesome idea! I’ll do my best to join you and the others — the more conversations, the more fun it gets. Thanks for the kind words… and Go Blackhawks Go!

    • #23929

      We should hit 13k comments in no time!

    • #23938
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Good idea Boiler. I place to put random Blackhawks thoughts is a good idea. And thanks CoachFrenchy, the blogger we didn’t deserve, but are glad we got.

    • #24003
      boilermaker
      Participant

      The Tom Kurvers showcase will be held in Minnesota on Sept 13-14. Hawks prospects will play two games against their Wild and Blues counterparts. No roster set yet. Last year the games were streamed so I expect the same this year. Camp opens for the whole team the following week.

    • #24008
      Assman22
      Participant

      Thanks Boiler! Can’t believe how long we stayed at HB only for it to turn into an even bigger turd lol

    • #24014
      boilermaker
      Participant
      • #24125
        Assman22
        Participant

        Al Bundy have 4 touchdowns in one game too.

      • #58278
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Check out the most recent comment in the Blackhawks Prospects thread for a review of Nestrasil’s, Frondell’s and Spellacy’s play at the WJC.

        Blackhawks Prospect News 2025-2026

      • #24380

        Heard Notre Dame is now actively recruiting him after Sunday’s debacle.

    • #24030
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I don’t think it’ll be an issue, he sounds like he’s a team player saying he’s doing this for his teammates to win a state title.

      That to me is a staple of hockey players, team first.

    • #24033
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know things can change but all signs point to USHL after the football season then MSU hockey next year.

    • #24050
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Tomorrow, September 1, Montreal wires $5.5M to Carey Price’s bank account, leaving a balance of only $2M, even less including the insurance payout for some team to pay him. We’ll see if a trade happens soon. I think CHI and SJS are the leading candidates. Maybe as some pundits wrote recently the trade would be expanded beyond Price plus a sweetener for future considerations.

      • #24263

        Montreal would probably want to expand it to Kirby Dach for Frank Nazar.

    • #24072
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Pittsburgh is a decent destination guess for the Price contract.
      They are well above the floor now, but they may be trading away several contracts.

    • #24089
      Metalhead
      Participant

      (something I posted earlier this summer, before people started showing up)

      A look at the trade for the rotting corpse of Shea Weber(‘s contract):
      ————————————
      March 7th, 2025 (w/Utah)
      Hawks gave:
      2026 5th round pick

      Hawks received:
      Weber contract
      Victor Soderstrom
      Aku Raty (went to play in Finland)
      ————————————-
      June 13th, 2025 (w/Boston)
      Hawks gave:
      Victor Soderstrom

      Hawks received:
      Ryan Mast
      2025 7th round pick
      ————————————
      June 28th, 2025 (w/Florida)
      Hawks gave:
      2025 7th round pick

      Hawks received:
      2026 7th round pick
      ————————————
      Overall the Hawks gave up:
      1.25 million dollars (Weber contract is only $1mm/year real money in the ’24/25 and ’25/26 seasons. Approx. 0.25mm in ’24/25 and $1mm in ’25/26)
      2026 5th round pick

      Overall the Hawks received:
      7.86 million dollar cap hit
      Ryan Mast (AHL D-man)
      2026 7th round pick

      Seems alright. I wouldn’t get too happy or sad about this. Cheap emergency cap floor compliance.

      • #24129
        Assman22
        Participant

        Wondering if Kyle enters the chat for Carey Price’s contract. Brossoit for Price + 2026 conditional pick perhaps? Habs are currently $4.8 million over the cap. Swapping Price for Brossoit would get the Habs $3 mil under the cap so they’d still have room to play with down the line. Also nets them a solid goalie if he returns to playing in 25-26. For Hawks, they get something in return for Brossoit and let their problem become the Habs’ problem while absorbing Price’s contract.

    • #24143
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Really nice to see old faces trickle in and as we saw down the dial an all in one thread works well. Like rpete says we’ll be to 11k posts in no time …. Great idea, BM.

      As we all know KD and Crew’s own draft picks are arriving in the Bigs and the roster is saying he thinks it’s time to throw quite a few kids into the deep end of the pool (camp will tell us more). One of the best things about KD IMO is he ain’t worried a bit about allowing players to develop at their own pace from jrs on up. He’s not throwing in a KK to see if he can “survive” an NHL season before he’s ready. Kids up when management thinks a kid is ready not where a kid “should” be in his development. The proper older school way..

      Frenchy it seems was sent by The Hockey Gods for Hawks fans at just the right time.

      • #24244
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Thanks for stopping by Rico. The more the merrier.

        Yes Frenchy was worth the long wait for a Hawks blogger.

    • #24242
      boilermaker
      Participant

      As Metalhead pointed out earlier, the return for Price alone would be minimal.
      I would like to see the trade expanded to get back something of more value. Maybe Reichel could go the other way. I would like to get at least a 2nd rounder back from the Habs in any Price deal.

    • #24262
      Metalhead
      Participant

      In 2021, Montreal lost the Stanley Cup final in 5 games.
      4 years later, after a rebuild on the fly, they made it back to the playoffs.
      They did that by making many very smart moves and very few mistakes.

      So, if you are proposing a trade with them, you have to ask: Would a really smart, well run team like Montreal agree to this trade?”
      I don’t think Montreal will just take back “stuff” to get rid of the Price contract.
      Pay with draft picks? Sure, they have all their own picks (plus a few extra) over the next 3 years.
      Trade the Price contract *and* picks plus a young player for a veteran who can help them right now? Also sounds like something they would do.
      But, trade the Price contract for some other team’s leftovers, problems, or bad contracts? I don’t think that is likely to happen.

    • #24267
      Metalhead
      Participant

      lol
      That’s gotta be the Habs biggest mistake over the last 4 years.

    • #24375
      boilermaker
      Participant
    • #24376
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Just a couple of tips that I discovered when commenting here.

      To add a comment hit reply on any comment and a new comment is posted.

      To reply to a specific comment, select quote on that particular comment, then write your reply.

      • #37825
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        Hey thanks, BM for this operating tip, and this move. I am all set to begin chat’N here with you.

        Really, thanks for figuring a safe raft here. There are still folks who forget the way back to buzz, who I knowand will link them up here.

        Yeah, my first post Was to Frenchy where I politely jumped the line on his talking point.

        So now I will stay here and try my best to not confuse.

    • #24382

      Just a couple of tips that I discovered when commenting here.

      To add a comment hit reply on any comment and a new comment is posted.

      To reply to a specific comment, select quote on that particular comment, then write your reply.

      Just a couple of tips that I discovered when commenting here.

      To add a comment hit reply on any comment and a new comment is posted.

      To reply to a specific comment, select quote on that particular comment, then write your reply.

      No wonder my comments are in the wrong place.

    • #24383
      Metalhead
      Participant

      To reply to a specific comment, select quote on that particular comment, then write your reply.

      Also, to reply to just a portion of a comment, highlight the part you want, then hit “quote”.

    • #24384
      Metalhead
      Participant

      For an emoji or gif, right click the empty text area and choose “emoji” from the menu.
      Emojis are really small. ????

    • #24386
      Metalhead
      Participant

      For an emoji or gif, right click the empty text area and choose “emoji” from the menu.
      Emojis are really small. ????

      Unless you reply to a comment that contains an emoji, then they get YUGE.

    • #24514
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Damn this thing, didn’t post my reply again…… Thanks for posting the Kurvers tourney info, BM. Next up is to get the Hawks’ roster and then we get some hockey. IIRC Frondell won’t be there cuz he’s home playing SHL but I’d assume all the rest of the pertinent 2024 and 2025 draft classes will be there.. …. Being rooted in jrs I’m guessing Frenchy will report on this tournament a good bit.

    • #24519
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Damn this thing, didn’t post my reply again……

      It’s best to highlight what you want to reply to, then click “quote”.
      It seems to be more reliable than the reply button.

    • #24607
      35Tony0
      Participant

      September is here. Blackhawks hockey coming soon!
      Gonna see more team speed this year, a needful thing.

    • #24621

      Al Bundy have 4 touchdowns in one game too.

      Polk HS!

    • #24692
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      I don’t know if it happened to anyone else, but i couldn’t register here, and just figured out a week later that the email to create a password was going to my Spam folder. All good now, just have to figure out how to do my profile

      Edit: Actually figured it out.

    • #24702
      Metalhead
      Participant

      hello Mr. bear

    • #24739
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know there’s a lot of love out there for the Habs but i have to admit I’m really curious to see how they do this year. The east looks like it’s getting weaker every year.

      Do the Caps all of a sudden look like the Bruins this year? Bolts, Rangers, Pens players all getting AARP cards in the mail. Seems to me some teams are going to be better because their own division is getting worse.

    • #24741
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I don’t know if it happened to anyone else, but i couldn’t register here, and just figured out a week later that the email to create a password was going to my Spam folder. All good now, just have to figure out how to do my profile

      Edit: Actually figured it out.

      Glad you made it here.

    • #24745
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I know there’s a lot of love out there for the Habs but i have to admit I’m really curious to see how they do this year. The east looks like it’s getting weaker every year.

      Do the Caps all of a sudden look like the Bruins this year? Bolts, Rangers, Pens players all getting AARP cards in the mail. Seems to me some teams are going to be better because their own division is getting worse.

      Montreal and Ottawa are a couple of the up and comers. Florida, Toronto and Carolina have the talent. TB still has a little left in the tank. NJ is good enough. WASH may regress, but still make the playoffs. That’s 8.

      Boston, NYR, PIT, NYI going the opposite direction. PHI not ready yet. Buffalo is Buffalo. Maybe Columbus and Detroit emerge as bubble teams.

    • #24749
      NewZealand Hawk
      Participant

      Hi Everyone, great to see the old squad from HB assembling here. Reading through the posts on HB and now here is my routine start of the day with a coffee. Look forward to the discussions, banter, and insights!!!

    • #24792
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hi Everyone, great to see the old squad from HB assembling here. Reading through the posts on HB and now here is my routine start of the day with a coffee. Look forward to the discussions, banter, and insights!!!

      Welcome. You have the same morning routine as me. I hope you post often.

    • #24821
      Assman22
      Participant

      Do the Caps all of a sudden look like the Bruins this year? Bolts, Rangers, Pens players all getting AARP cards in the mail. Seems to me some teams are going to be better because their own division is getting worse.

      I believe the two oldest teams this season are Pens and Kings. Get Brossoit healthy and start a bidding war between Habs and Kings please.

    • #24827
      Assman22
      Participant

      Anyone read about the new CBA rule starting this season where teams will be allotted one spot in the AHL for a 19-year-old? Assuming the Hawks choices are essentially Vanacker or Spellacy if they decide to move one or the other up to AHL as they’re the only prospects that have signed their ELC that’d be worthy of the spot. Thoughts?

      If it’s me, I’d move Spellacy up to AHL. Not sure how much more he’ll learn in the OHL and his ceiling/floor are a lot lower than Vanacker. I’d keep Vanacker in Brantford so he can get a full season of being the man with Lardis and O’Brien moving on and so he gets in a healthy season to gain confidence prior to moving up to AHL. He’s destined to be a crowd favorite when he hits the show but for now, let’s develop him properly.

    • #24864

      Anyone read about the new CBA rule starting this season where teams will be allotted one spot in the AHL for a 19-year-old? Assuming the Hawks choices are essentially Vanacker or Spellacy if they decide to move one or the other up to AHL as they’re the only prospects that have signed their ELC that’d be worthy of the spot. Thoughts?

      If it’s me, I’d move Spellacy up to AHL. Not sure how much more he’ll learn in the OHL and his ceiling/floor are a lot lower than Vanacker. I’d keep Vanacker in Brantford so he can get a full season of being the man with Lardis and O’Brien moving on and so he gets in a healthy season to gain confidence prior to moving up to AHL. He’s destined to be a crowd favorite when he hits the show but for now, let’s develop him properly.

      18 year olds are still screwed or if they turn 19 during the season it’s ok?

    • #24903
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Wondering if Kyle enters the chat for Carey Price’s contract. Brossoit for Price + 2026 conditional pick perhaps? Habs are currently $4.8 million over the cap. Swapping Price for Brossoit would get the Habs $3 mil under the cap so they’d still have room to play with down the line. Also nets them a solid goalie if he returns to playing in 25-26. For Hawks, they get something in return for Brossoit and let their problem become the Habs’ problem while absorbing Price’s contract.

      I think it’s a definite possibility and a creative take. I’m super curious what is going on with Brossoit and if he will play again.

    • #24905
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Hi Everyone, great to see the old squad from HB assembling here. Reading through the posts on HB and now here is my routine start of the day with a coffee. Look forward to the discussions, banter, and insights!!!

      Same. I can’t wait for the season to start and the conversations to really get going. 🙂

    • #24908
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I don’t know if it happened to anyone else, but i couldn’t register here, and just figured out a week later that the email to create a password was going to my Spam folder. All good now, just have to figure out how to do my profile

      Edit: Actually figured it out.

      I had the exact same issue with it going to my Gmail Spam folder. I hope the admin of the site realizes this might be making the process more difficult for people. I know there can be some modifications to email settings to help prevent it being marked as SPAM.

    • #24923
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Anyone read about the new CBA rule starting this season where teams will be allotted one spot in the AHL for a 19-year-old? Assuming the Hawks choices are essentially Vanacker or Spellacy if they decide to move one or the other up to AHL as they’re the only prospects that have signed their ELC that’d be worthy of the spot. Thoughts?

      If it’s me, I’d move Spellacy up to AHL. Not sure how much more he’ll learn in the OHL and his ceiling/floor are a lot lower than Vanacker. I’d keep Vanacker in Brantford so he can get a full season of being the man with Lardis and O’Brien moving on and so he gets in a healthy season to gain confidence prior to moving up to AHL. He’s destined to be a crowd favorite when he hits the show but for now, let’s develop him properly.

      18 year olds are still screwed or if they turn 19 during the season it’s ok?

      A kid is drafted at 18 and after that he can only have 2 yrs of jrs eligibility left. So, no matter your exact age the very next yr after being drafted you’re considered 19 even if you still haven’t turned 19 to start the season and the following yr you’re considered 20.

      So, just go by that and not exactly how old they are Any kid drafted, no matter his age at the time, will be eligible the very next season for the AHL under the new CBA.

    • #24926
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I don’t know if it happened to anyone else, but i couldn’t register here, and just figured out a week later that the email to create a password was going to my Spam folder. All good now, just have to figure out how to do my profile

      Edit: Actually figured it out.

      Great to see guys trickling in. Glad you signed up and are posting, VBear. ..Is that the real BB from HB posting?….. This joint is starting to shape up.

      Me too, the email from HHS went to my spam. Took me a month to figure out.

      • #24952
        vabeachbear
        Participant

        it is.

        i can attest, that i am me

    • #24945
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I don’t know if it happened to anyone else, but i couldn’t register here, and just figured out a week later that the email to create a password was going to my Spam folder. All good now, just have to figure out how to do my profile

      Edit: Actually figured it out.

      Great to see guys trickling in. Glad you signed up and are posting, VBear. ..Is that the real BB from HB posting?….. This joint is starting to shape up.

      Me too, the email from HHS went to my spam. Took me a month to figure out.

      Forget everything I posted above. A kid will now be able to play AHL in his draft +2 yr, not his draft +1 yr. The rule is made for guys like KK who were not good enough for the NHL his draft +2 yr but too good for jrs.

    • #24981
      NewZealand Hawk
      Participant

      Welcome. You have the same morning routine as me. I hope you post often.

      I have been around for 16 or 17 years, but really just read. I will try and post more often.

    • #25269
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Price traded to SJS for 5th round pick. Sharks also send a no name AHL defenseman back to Montreal. Like Metalhead predicted the return was very minimal.

    • #25274
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Price traded to SJS for 5th round pick. Sharks also send a no name AHL defenseman back to Montreal.

      Sharks likely insisted on the injured AHL D-man going to Montreal.
      He’s signed for ’25/26 and they probably wanted the contract spot opened (of the 50 org total)

      • #25290
        wizardofi
        Participant

        Montreal does like their French Canadian players

    • #25330
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Looks like Hockey Hot Stove has entered into an agreement with Capwages.com for salary cap information. Go to the HHS home page and select “Cap Tracker” along the top banner.

    • #25348
      Assman22
      Participant

      Looks like Hockey Hot Stove has entered into an agreement with Capwages.com for salary cap information. Go to the HHS home page and select “Cap Tracker” along the top banner.

      CapWages is great. While they have some bugs to work out to fully mirror their predecessor, CW is at least 3x better than that dinosaur site PuckPedia.

    • #25464
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Looks like Hockey Hot Stove has entered into an agreement with Capwages.com for salary cap information. Go to the HHS home page and select “Cap Tracker” along the top banner.

      Oh, this is nice… But they have Kaiser listed as a projected 5.4 mil cap hit!! Hope that’s not what he’s holding out for……. Kid has 98 NHL games on some downright dog teams and he’s -4 in plus-minus. And the minus 4 was earned 3 yrs ago in just 9 games played as a rookie. He was even the last 2 yrs in 89 games.

    • #25515
      35Tony0
      Participant

      RIP Ken Dryden, 1971 not withstanding.

    • #25521
      boilermaker
      Participant

      @Mr. Ricochet – Oh, this is nice… But they have Kaiser listed as a projected 5.4 mil cap hit!! Hope that’s not what he’s holding out for……. Kid has 98 NHL games on some downright dog teams and he’s -4 in plus-minus. And the minus 4 was earned 3 yrs ago in just 9 games played as a rookie. He was even the last 2 yrs in 89 games.

      Capwages gets their projected contract information from a site called AFP Analytics. They have an extensive spreadsheet showing project and actual contracts, player comparables, etc. I think they base their contract projections alot on % of total cap. With that said, I don’t think kaiser is worth 5.4M either, not yet anyway.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WuCp8WHgCaTAijtVsww-C-1qmdBdNBiTbDIPdJr_Fwo/edit?pli=1&gid=1769332179#gid=1769332179

    • #25529
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Another thing about posting here. You can’t reply to a comment that already has been replied to. For example – I wrote about this site using capwages. Then Mr. Richochet replied about Kaiser’s projected contract. I tried to reply to Rico, but it wouldn’t take. So I had to create a new comment. To reference Rico’s comment, I copied and pasted it, added the “@Mr. Ricochet” at the beginning, italicized it, then added my own response. See the previous post.

    • #25586
      boilermaker
      Participant

      test

    • #25719
      totem
      Participant

      Following everyone over here. Thanks for setting this up, boiler.

      Having some trouble as it is repeatedly asking me to log in, but was able to post after a few tries. Will see how it works going forward.

    • #25738
      Metalhead
      Participant

    • #25740
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Another thing about posting here. You can’t reply to a comment that already has been replied to.

      Try the “quote” button instead.

      Highlight Mr. Ricochet’s response to you, then hit “quote”.
      Type your response.

      I did this above to a portion of your post about stacking responses.

    • #25779
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Highlight Mr. Ricochet’s response to you, then hit “quote”.
      Type your response.

      Let’s give it a try.

    • #25780
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Let’s give it a try.

      Thanks Metalhead.

    • #25791
      Assman22
      Participant

      Still really slow in this forum. I was hoping it’d be a couple pages per day like HB still was even a few weeks ago.

    • #25804
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Thanks Metalhead.

      ????

    • #25806
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hawks roster for Kurvers showcase.

      Hawks roster for Kuvers showcase.

    • #25808
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Still really slow in this forum.

      I’ll try shifting some content to this thread from when I was talking to myself back in June, July and August.

      Capwages still shows a 25 man roster for the Hawks, so I put together a potential roster of 23.

      The 25/26 NHL Cap Floor is $70.6 million.

      (13) forwards:
      5.50 Bertuzzi
      5.50 Burakovsky
      5.40 Teuvo
      4.50 Foligno
      4.25 Dickinson
      4.04 Mikheyev
      4.00 Donato
      2.00 Lafferty
      1.20 Reichel (only because he is not waivers exempt, might be gone via trade or waiver claim)
      0.95 Bedard
      0.95 Nazar
      0.95 Greene
      0.94 Moore
      40.18 total

      (8) defense
      7.86 Weber (Hawks acquired his contract to help them get to the cap floor)
      4.60 Vlasic
      4.40 Murphy
      2.80 Kaiser (RFA without arb rights, actual price depends on length of contract)
      0.92 Korchinski
      0.98 Levshunov
      0.91 Rinzel
      0.86 Del Mastro (these bottom 4 could be part of a Rockford Shuttle system incl Allan, Harding, etc.)
      23.33 total

      (2) goalies
      4.50 Knight
      2.75 Soderblom
      7.25 total (obv depends on status/health of Brossoit: they could roster 3 goalies for a bit and LTIR Weber if Brossoit is healthy)

      (1) retained salary
      2.50 Jones

      (1) buyout
      3.23 Brodie

      $76.59 million total, $5.99 million above the cap floor.

    • #25809
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hawks roster for Kurvers showcase.

      Thanks for this.
      I’m just hoping for ONE “holy crap” surprise jump in skill level at this event.
      Any more than that would be gravy.

    • #25817
      boilermaker
      Participant

      ’m just hoping for ONE “holy crap” surprise jump in skill level at this event.
      Any more than that would be gravy.

      I’m just hoping no one gets injured at this showcase. I remember a few years ago some goon from Minnesota took out a Hawks player. Don’t remember who.

    • #25818
      Haru
      Participant

      Nice read by Ben Pope on how Lucas Reichel spent this summer training overseas. I remember reading some of the comments on HB about his play and those comments were spot on with some of the comments made by his current skills coach regarding Reichel’s deficiencies. Hopefully he has learned enough from this training and can take the next step forward towards his development.

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2025/09/07/blackhawks-lukas-reichel-nhl-trade-rumors-training-yanick-dube

    • #25826
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Hawks roster for Kurvers showcase.

      Thanks for this.
      I’m just hoping for ONE “holy crap” surprise jump in skill level at this event.
      Any more than that would be gravy.

      I think Nick Lardis is going to stand out, maybe along with Vanacker and Spellacy.

    • #25832
      Spudrock512
      Participant

      Hey everyone from over at Hockey Buzz. Sad to see that place fizzle out, but hopefully there will be some good discussions here as the season is quickly approaching. I didn’t comment too much, but I would always enjoys the banter from the fellow fans.

      • #25957
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Hey my friend — glad you joined the forums! Don’t hesitate to share your thoughts or requests, we’re all here to learn and enjoy hockey together. Welcome to the HHS (Chicago) family!

    • #25834
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Here’s a comment I made to a Frenchy article about Bertuzzi:

      Bertuzzi was a “do something” signing.
      He was an erratic knucklehead all season, same as he’s always been.
      It’s tough to say this about a $5.5mm player, but they need to put him in the right situations so he can succeed.
      He needs to remain on the PP, because he does create some confusion around the net.
      But for heaven’s sake, keep him off Bedard’s line.
      Just in his time w/Bedard before Xmas, I saw him fail to finish a good 7 or 8
      open looks Bedard served him. Whiffed, shanked, missed the net, or shot into the goalie’s chest, he did it all.

      Any improvement he makes from last year would be like finding money on the sidewalk.

    • #25839
      totem
      Participant

      Thanks for this.
      I’m just hoping for one “holy crap” surprise jump in skill level at this event.
      Any more than that would be gravy.

      Guess the college guys are already on campus. Interested to see how Behm does; he’s got a lot of scoring touch but needs to be more engaged physically or he might fade to gray at higher levels.

      • #25914
        Mr Ricochet
        Participant

        Who are these guys who are wearing Bear’s uniforms?? YeHaa.

    • #25898
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I’m here now — sorry for the delay! If you have any questions, please let me know, and I’ll do my best to reply to everyone. Also, I’ll be starting a Mailbag in October, so keep your questions coming — they might be featured!

    • #25900
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Tomorrow I’ll have a full piece on Rookie Camp — everything you need to know in one place. Thanks as always for your support! Which prospect are you most excited to watch? Let me know, and I’ll do my best to cover it.

    • #25901
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Following everyone over here. Thanks for setting this up, boiler.

      Having some trouble as it is repeatedly asking me to log in, but was able to post after a few tries. Will see how it works going forward.

      Glad to see you here. totem. Not sure if you saw Frenchy mention his background but IIRC he mentioned he was involved in jrs for awhile cutting up video. With you here posting about what you see at WHL games and if paul makes it over we’ll get OHL thoughts too. ….. That’s some decent coverage of Major Junior.

    • #25902
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Still really slow in this forum. I was hoping it’d be a couple pages per day like HB still was even a few weeks ago.

      These things take time, Assman. A new forum and this is the absolute slowest time for NHL chatter and message board participation.. Things start to get fun this weekend though with Hawk prospects at the Kurvers tournament. Can’t wait. ……… But, IMO it’s all about the blogger and man, Frenchy seems to be the goods. These kind of excellent hockey minds get found and attract people.

      It’ll grow.

    • #25904
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Still really slow in this forum. I was hoping it’d be a couple pages per day like HB still was even a few weeks ago.

      These things take time, Assman. A new forum and this is the absolute slowest time for NHL chatter and message board participation.. Things start to get fun this weekend though with Hawk prospects at the Kurvers tournament. Can’t wait. ……… But, IMO it’s all about the blogger and man, Frenchy seems to be the goods. These kind of excellent hockey minds get found and attract people.

      It’ll grow.

      Honestly it’s just nice to have someone cover the Blackhawks

      • #26038
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it. You’re right — things always start slow, but the fun is coming with the Hawks prospects this weekend at the Kurvers. I’m excited to cover it and keep building with all of you. Hockey talk is always better when we share it together!


        @mr-ricochet


        @assman22


        @betweenthedots

    • #25922
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      It’s not letting me quote you, Dots…. Oh for sure, a place with proper software and format is really appreciated but you add a blogger with a multi layered background with a good hockey mind and can write you’ve found the penthouse.

      Where’s Chunk, Dots?

    • #25935
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s not letting me quote you, Dots…. Oh for sure, a place with proper software and format is really appreciated but you add a blogger with a multi layered background with a good hockey mind and can write you’ve found the penthouse.

      Where’s Chunk, Dots?

      Don’t know maybe him and Paul are stuck in the interweb.

    • #25938
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      It’s not letting me quote you, Dots…. Oh for sure, a place with proper software and format is really appreciated but you add a blogger with a multi layered background with a good hockey mind and can write you’ve found the penthouse.

      Where’s Chunk, Dots?

      Don’t know maybe him and Paul are stuck in the interweb.

      Chunk is a good poster as is Paul but the back and forth between you and Chunk keeps a place on its toes… Hopefully both guys find their way over.

    • #25940
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Tomorrow I’ll have a full piece on Rookie Camp — everything you need to know in one place. Thanks as always for your support! Which prospect are you most excited to watch? Let me know, and I’ll do my best to cover it.

      Hoping Moore makes the big club this season. I’m looking forward to see Lardis perform too, but he’s probably destined for a year at Rockford. Hopefully both make the transition from NCAA and Juniors to pro and become useful pieces down the road.

      • #26024
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I expect Oliver Moore to be with the big club — he has everything Bashill is looking for. Lardis, on the other hand, will likely need a full year in the AHL. I’ll be watching closely to see how he adjusts to the speed and physicality of the pro game. Still, I really like his game.

    • #25947
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Here’s a comment I made to a Frenchy article about Bertuzzi:

      Bertuzzi was a “do something” signing.
      He was an erratic knucklehead all season, same as he’s always been.
      It’s tough to say this about a $5.5mm player, but they need to put him in the right situations so he can succeed.
      He needs to remain on the PP, because he does create some confusion around the net.
      But for heaven’s sake, keep him off Bedard’s line.
      Just in his time w/Bedard before Xmas, I saw him fail to finish a good 7 or 8
      open looks Bedard served him. Whiffed, shanked, missed the net, or shot into the goalie’s chest, he did it all.

      Any improvement he makes from last year would be like finding money on the sidewalk.

      I would really love to see him step it up. He has decent hands, he can finish those chances in close, and he tries to battle (gets knocked on his rear a lot) but it would be good to see him just bring a more complete game a little bit. Or maybe if things go well he can be delegated to 3rd line.

    • #25950
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Tomorrow I’ll have a full piece on Rookie Camp — everything you need to know in one place. Thanks as always for your support! Which prospect are you most excited to watch? Let me know, and I’ll do my best to cover it.

      Looking forward to your post on rookie camp, Frenchy…….. If I’m limited to one guy to watch and or preview it would be Spellacy. It’s just so so hard to find a power player that kinda speed. They’re rare and this kid has a chance. His EP page is nuts as he played low level hockey in the Cleveland area which I’ve seen live. Maybe 10 HS games and saw the Barons play the NTDP way back when and although it ain’t too too bad it ain’t now hockey hotbed. Don’t think he had 50 games of hockey at his EP page and straight outa there he made a Major Junior team!! That’s nuts and something that catches your attention.

      He’s still raw but the eye test says he’s made solid improvement and IMO kid started looking the part. Kid is big, really fast, lik3es to play the body and maybe best of all his loves Tom Wilson and tries to pattern his game after him.. Curious what you’d guess his ceiling is, Frenchy? If I had to guess today he has a middle 6 ceiling.

      And you gotta look at Lardis too. I watched a good bit of Brantford the last 2 yrs and, wow. Like Spellacy, who brings something coveted and scarce,, this guy has a super high goal scoring IQ with a fantastic shot that gets off his stick in a blink. Game slows down for this kid. .. Kid has real speed he knows how to use. He’s general dangerous and unlike our NHL generational phenom this kid gets wood on his one timers, it’s off in a blink and is very accurate. ……… 70 goals man, in the OHL!! Drafted in rd 3. You get these kinds drafted outa rd 1to produce in the NHL and your gonna make some noise.

      Wish Kancerov was here.

      • #26023
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        The article is up. I watched Kantserov in his first game — he logged 19 minutes, finished with no points and a minus-1, but overall played a solid game. He completed 76.19% of his passes and, despite his smaller size, he’s really fun to watch.

    • #26002
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Hmm, my quote posts don’t show up, anyone else have that issue? I see posts from others that are quotes, not sure what i’m doing wrong.

      • #26022
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        This is Frenchy. I’m not in charge of the site — I only write Blackhawks content here — but I believe comments may need to be approved first. I know this issue has been reported a few times recently, so I can’t give you a full answer right now. I’ll pass it along to the team and hopefully get more clarity for you. In the meantime, welcome to the HHS family!

    • #26027
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hmm, my quote posts don’t show up, anyone else have that issue? I see posts from others that are quotes, not sure what i’m doing wrong.

      Are you just hitting the “quote” button?
      Try highlighting the text you want to quote (even if it’s the entire post) then hit the quote button.

    • #26049
      boilermaker
      Participant

      This is Frenchy. I’m not in charge of the site — I only write Blackhawks content here — but I believe comments may need to be approved first. I know this issue has been reported a few times recently, so I can’t give you a full answer right now. I’ll pass it along to the team and hopefully get more clarity for you. In the meantime, welcome to the HHS family!

      Just a FYI here Frenchy. Comments need to be approved on the articles you write so there is a time delay before posting. Comments on this forum don’t have to be approved and are posted immediately.

    • #26081
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      BM, you are so helpful in many ways. …… Thanks.

      I’d add sometimes it logs me out. You can log back in as usual or go to any thread and at the bottom of the page thread it says “you need to log in to reply” and it has your name and password already prepared there with a log in button. Just click on it and you’re logged in..

      Yesterday the software’s spellcheck didn’t work and sometimes a post doesn’t take. I think the webmaster is still working out software kinks. .. If I post anything more than a few sentences I copy it in case it doesn’t take.

    • #26124
      totem
      Participant

      Maybe something to watch in the OHL:

      Vladimir Dravecky, 2026 eligible, 6-0 187 RD is rumored to be coming to Brantford. He is ranked early second where CHI will have some picks. CHI has a lot of young D right now, but that logjam will have to clear and it is a little thin behind them. Dravecky might be an option for refilling the D pipeline and the scouts will get to see him a lot if he is at Brantford. Dravecky was 37-6-10-16 last year in Sweden.

      http://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/09/09/kurvers-roster-thoughts-two-weeks-away-reichels-offseason-work-and-other-blackhawks-bullets/

      • #26185
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I saw that post too on X: Dravecky was born in the USA and holds dual citizenship with Czechia and the U.S. He played with Rögle BK last season, showing strong skating, speed on the rush, and good transition play.

        He had a solid year in the J20 with 16 points in 37 games, and right now he’s ranked as a second-round prospect for the 2026 NHL Draft, projected between 40th and 55th overall. Definitely a player to watch next season.

        It’s not yet confirmed if he’ll play in the SHL. Reports suggest he doesn’t want to return to the J20, and if he doesn’t land in the SHL, the OHL could be a better path for his development.

    • #26131
      bhawk1s
      Participant

      How do you add an avatar for your login id ?

    • #26132
      bhawk1s
      Participant

      How do you add an avatar to your login id ?

    • #26138
      bhawk1s
      Participant

      Figured it out, go to gravatar.com

      • #26184
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        it looks great and welcome in the family

    • #26158
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Are you just hitting the “quote” button?
      Try highlighting the text you want to quote (even if it’s the entire post) then hit the quote button.

      Yes, i’m hitting the quote button and getting the window at bottom of page with text i’m responding to in it, so looks like it should be working, but posts don’t show up

    • #26159
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      So, highlighting the text before you hit the quote button is what was required

      • #26287
        boilermaker
        Participant

        I don’t think I ever posted this here. Maybe I did on the other site. I came across this e-book that details X’s and O’s used by teams throughout the league. Cost is $32, but may be worth it to those of you who are really into the tactics or coach youngsters. There’s an illustrative example in the link.

        https://jhanhky.gumroad.com/l/hockeytactics2025

    • #26162
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Here’s a link to a page showing the Hawks prospects and where they are playing. Click on any column header to sort accordingly. This is good to bookmark since the site will be updated throughout the year with current stats.

      https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/56/chicago-blackhawks/in-the-system

      So here’s the post i tried to make this morning to this post;

      In honor of us all moving here, thought i would make sure we didn’t stray too far from our past;

      “In looking at this elite prospects link, i see that Kantserov has played two games without a point. He is a bust, and KD is a child in a man’s job!”

    • #26170
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      The article is up. I watched Kantserov in his first game — he logged 19 minutes, finished with no points and a minus-1, but overall played a solid game. He completed 76.19% of his passes and, despite his smaller size, he’s really fun to watch.

      Kantserov, a 2nd rd pick in 2023, turns 21 at the end of September is beginning his 3rd season in the KHL. Last I knew the KHL was the 2nd best league on earth followed by the AHL and SHL …. What I wanted to most was how many minutes he played and you gave us that, Frenchy. That tells me more about a prospect playing pro than anything else. His coach knows him best and TOI says much…… Did you notice if he played on PP1 or 2 or on the PK?

      Samething with Frondell this yr. I’ll watch for his TOI, line and special teams placement…. Yea, we wanna see pts but this is the developmental process where a foundation is being built. At this stage that’s more important than pts for me.

      • #26187
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        First of all, I found out today his name is actually Roman Kancerov, confirmed on the KHL website.

        Game 2 stats: TOI 16:57 — 5-on-5: 12:40, PP: 2:46, PK: 1:31. He finished with 0 points, -1, and 1 SOG.
        Game 1 stats: TOI 19:00 — 5-on-5: 13:00, PP: 6:00. Again, 0 points and -1.

        It’s clear his coach is giving him a lot of ice time and trusting him in all situations. Meanwhile, Frondell hasn’t started his season yet, and it looks like he’s lining up with Eklund again.

    • #26206
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Happy Hump Day, everyone!

      My new article will be released later this morning: “Where Does Spencer Knight Fit in the Goalie Market?”

      I’d really appreciate some feedback. It’s a longer piece with several tables and a lot of detail — I wanted to dig deeper into how we evaluate goaltender contracts. Since I’m still fairly new to HHS and covering the Blackhawks, I’d love to hear what readers are looking for: do you prefer this kind of deeper dive, or something a little lighter?

      As the season gets closer, I’ll also be delivering content like video breakdowns, game highlights, and situational analysis. For now, I hope this one gives a clear picture of how Knight’s next contract could take shape.

      Thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts — I’m really grateful to be part of the HHS community. Enjoy your day!

    • #26286
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Happy Hump Day, everyone!

      My new article will be released later this morning: “Where Does Spencer Knight Fit in the Goalie Market?”

      I’d really appreciate some feedback. It’s a longer piece with several tables and a lot of detail — I wanted to dig deeper into how we evaluate goaltender contracts. Since I’m still fairly new to HHS and covering the Blackhawks, I’d love to hear what readers are looking for: do you prefer this kind of deeper dive, or something a little lighter?

      As the season gets closer, I’ll also be delivering content like video breakdowns, game highlights, and situational analysis. For now, I hope this one gives a clear picture of how Knight’s next contract could take shape.

      Thanks for taking the time to read and share your thoughts — I’m really grateful to be part of the HHS community. Enjoy your day!

      I thought the Knight contract article was very informative. I didn’t mind the deeper dive. It’s better than some of the usual “fluff” from other hockey writers. Looking forward to your video highlights, etc. once the games are played.

      • #26513
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks a lot for the feedback ???? I try to bring more than the usual surface-level talk and give fans real context and details. Glad you enjoyed the deeper dive! Once the games get going, I’ll have plenty of video highlights and updates coming your way. Appreciate your support!

    • #26347

      Hmm, my quote posts don’t show up, anyone else have that issue? I see posts from others that are quotes, not sure what i’m doing wrong.

      Seems to be happening to me. Perhaps there’s a lag?

    • #26355
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Seems to be happening to me. Perhaps there’s a lag?

      See Metalhead post on page 7.

      No lag on this forum, but a lag when posting on Frenchy’s articles.

    • #26370
      Assman22
      Participant

      Can we get back to hockey while you old farts try to figure out how to use this forum correctly? Lol it’s like 2 pages of uhhh I don’t know what I’m doing uhhh…hahahaha

    • #26404
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Can we get back to hockey while you old farts try to figure out how to use this forum correctly? Lol it’s like 2 pages of uhhh I don’t know what I’m doing uhhh…hahahaha

      Instead of bitching about past comments, why don’t you write about a topic you want to discuss?

    • #26417
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Seems to be happening to me. Perhaps there’s a lag?

      You have to highlight the text you want to quote, even if you want to quote the entire post.

    • #26419
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Ok dreamers, time to start the countdown to July 1st:

      Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 3h
      Sources say #mnwild superstar Kirill Kaprizov’s camp turned down an extension offer believed to be 8-years, $128 million
      in a meeting on Tuesday in Minnesota that would have made him the highest-paid player in #NHL history in both AAV ($16 million) and total dollars.

    • #26421
      Metalhead
      Participant

      why don’t you write about a topic you want to discuss?

      I agree w/ Boilermaker.
      As people get more familiar with the comment section quirks, the more activity there will be.
      Helping newer members figure it out will help increase the hockey content.

    • #26423
      Metalhead
      Participant

      re: Laurent Brossoit

      Other than idle speculation about trading him, has anyone read *any actual info*
      about his health status going into training camp?

      This info has been locked down forever, it seems.

    • #26428
      Assman22
      Participant

      Ok dreamers, time to start the countdown to July 1st:

      Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 3h
      Sources say #mnwild superstar Kirill Kaprizov’s camp turned down an extension offer believed to be 8-years, $128 million
      in a meeting on Tuesday in Minnesota that would have made him the highest-paid player in #NHL history in both AAV ($16 million) and total dollars.

      Eklund was right lol. He’s totally coming to Chicago next year!

    • #26430
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Eklund was right lol. He’s totally coming to Chicago next year!

      ???? the odds are piling up that an Ek article will eventually contain correct info someday.

    • #26484
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Ok dreamers, time to start the countdown to July 1st:

      Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli 3h
      Sources say #mnwild superstar Kirill Kaprizov’s camp turned down an extension offer believed to be 8-years, $128 million
      in a meeting on Tuesday in Minnesota that would have made him the highest-paid player in #NHL history in both AAV ($16 million) and total dollars.

      I wouldn’t get my hopes up that he’ll wind up in Chicago.

      1) The Wild won’t let him walk for nothing. Chicago or whomever will have to pay an arm and both legs in any trade deal. Probably have to include 2 or 3 of our upcoming studs plus some draft picks.
      2) Maybe he just wants a shorter term contract, maybe 3 x 16M, so he can sign for 3 x 19M, then 3 x 22M down the road. Of course Guerin would like the cost certainty of 8 x 16M. It seems an awful lot now, but won’t be in 4-5 years.

      Here’s a Minnesota writer’s viewpoint.
      https://hockeywilderness.com/news-rumors/minnesota-wild/kaprizov-reportedly-turns-down-8-year-extension-now-what-for-the-wild-r30911/

    • #26485

      I was trying to respond about the Kurvers tournament that Oliver Moore is a very key player. Also, I think KD will try to sign Knight sooner rather than later. But I look for shorter term, 4 years.

      • #26516
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Welcome to HHS, and thanks for jumping into the forum! ???? It’s definitely possible the Blackhawks push to sign him early to secure the long-term benefits, while Knight might prefer to wait and see before committing.

    • #26486
      boilermaker
      Participant

      re: Laurent Brossoit

      Other than idle speculation about trading him, has anyone read *any actual info*
      about his health status going into training camp?

      This info has been locked down forever, it seems.

      Does Brossoit have red hair? Is he someone’s step-child? The Hawks have had him hidden in the basement since he got injured. Talk about keeping a tight lid on things.

      Best case scenario is he starts the season healthy, gets a few games in and does decently (Hawks would have to keep all three goalies on the roster), and someone else’s goalie or backup wets the bed or gets injured making him trade fodder. Chances of all three happening are slim and none.

    • #26495
      wizardofi
      Participant

      1) The Wild won’t let him walk for nothing. Chicago or whomever will have to pay an arm and both legs in any trade deal. Probably have to include 2 or 3 of our upcoming studs plus some draft picks.

      Kiprisov has a NMC so if he doesn’t sign soon Minny might need to take back what the Leafs got for Marner if they can prove meddling, otherwise he can to a Tavares/Sundin.

    • #26497

      1) The Wild won’t let him walk for nothing. Chicago or whomever will have to pay an arm and both legs in any trade deal. Probably have to include 2 or 3 of our upcoming studs plus some draft picks.

      Kiprisov has a NMC so if he doesn’t sign soon Minny might need to take back what the Leafs got for Marner if they can prove meddling, otherwise he can to a Tavares/Sundin.

      They could have an AHLer take a run at him in camp and show him the error of his ways.

    • #26499

      re: Laurent Brossoit

      Other than idle speculation about trading him, has anyone read *any actual info*
      about his health status going into training camp?

      This info has been locked down forever, it seems.

      Does Brossoit have red hair? Is he someone’s step-child? The Hawks have had him hidden in the basement since he got injured. Talk about keeping a tight lid on things.

      Best case scenario is he starts the season healthy, gets a few games in and does decently (Hawks would have to keep all three goalies on the roster), and someone else’s goalie or backup wets the bed or gets injured making him trade fodder. Chances of all three happening are slim and none.

      If all three goalies, four if you count Commesso are still around at the start of the season I see a revolving IR door until KD unloads Soderblom or Brossoit.

    • #26519
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I don’t see Kaprizov leaving the Wild either. As for Davidson, he’s staying patient — likely until the trade deadline — and then looking at UFAs next summer. My own target would be Kyle Connor. If Brossoit is healthy, they could carry three goalies for a few weeks before a trade, or even loan him to the AHL on a conditioning stint.

      If there are any topics you’d like me to cover, feel free to ask — I try to check in here once or twice a day.

    • #26560
      Metalhead
      Participant

      If all three goalies, four if you count Commesso are still around at the start of the season I see a revolving IR door until KD unloads Soderblom or Brossoit.

      Commesso is their AHL goalie.
      If the other 3 are all healthy, then (as Frenchy mentioned) they can just roster all 3 while they figure it out.

      13F
      7D
      3G

      It’s unusual, but they would make the cap floor with room to spare. (Weber contract goes on IR in this scenario)

    • #26561
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I just read Kroll Kaprizov turned down 16 million a year. Heard that they are still negotiating. I just read other posts, so not breaking news.

    • #26566
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I don’t see Kaprizov leaving the Wild either.

      It is funny bringing up Kiprisov’s comment of wanting to play with Bedard from a year or so ago. With one guy I was talking with a couple of months ago I said if he doesn’t sign by Sept 1 and the owner says something, he’s gone. I was just messing with him, but things got hilarious when Leopold said things were close.

    • #26606
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I wouldn’t get my hopes up that he’ll wind up in Chicago.

      Neither will I.
      New 32 Thoughts Podcast came out and Friedman is speculating that someone has tampered and whispered big money to his people.
      He thought maybe 7 x 18 or 7 x 20.
      What he did *not* mention (my own speculation) is that it could be a no-tax State offering 7 x 16, which is more money than Minnesota.
      Friedman said that he did not think Kaprisov was angling for a shorter deal like the McDavid speculation. (said he might be wrong about that though)
      Kaprisov’s injury history was brought up as being another factor in trying to navigate the whole process for both sides.

      RAMPANT SPECULATION BABY ! WE ARE SO BACK, LETS GO !

    • #26608
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I would not sign Knight early, goalies are a fickle group. I would just let the season play out and see how he handles himself over the course of the year.

      I actually believe Knight is better than Wolf but most likely won’t be statistically for a couple more years until the defense around him gets better with more experience.

    • #26609
      Assman22
      Participant

      I don’t see Kaprizov leaving the Wild either. As for Davidson, he’s staying patient — likely until the trade deadline — and then looking at UFAs next summer. My own target would be Kyle Connor.

      You don’t see him leaving the Wild even though he just turned down $16 mil AAV?

    • #26610
      Assman22
      Participant

      I would not sign Knight early, goalies are a fickle group. I would just let the season play out and see how he handles himself over the course of the year.

      I actually believe Knight is better than Wolf but most likely won’t be statistically for a couple more years until the defense around him gets better with more experience.

      Agreed and it’s best for both parties. Knight bets on himself and Kyle can avoid the chance of signing a pumpkin before Knight plays his first full season. Win-Win.

    • #26614
      Assman22
      Participant

      GM Bill Guerin speaks on Kaprizov contract – “I know two things, that info didn’t come from us and it didn’t come from Kirill’s agent, I don’t know where it came from.

      What else was Bill going to say? “Yep every word Frank posted on Twatter is true and we have zero leverage with this Ruski SOB now. Bring on the lowball offers boys!” Lol

    • #26638
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      This site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared

    • #26653

      I would not sign Knight early, goalies are a fickle group. I would just let the season play out and see how he handles himself over the course of the year.

      I actually believe Knight is better than Wolf but most likely won’t be statistically for a couple more years until the defense around him gets better with more experience.

      We pretty much know his floor. The defense is going to take a couple years as you say. Locking Knight up early is to our advantage and also sends a message we’re all in keeping young core guys. As I said, I think he’s in a unique situation where shorter term makes more sense to him. Something like 4x$6.75.

    • #26655
      Metalhead
      Participant

      This site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared

      I’ve totally stopped using the “reply” button.
      No matter what, I highlight some or all of a post and use the “quote” button.

    • #26656

      This site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared

      Did you look behind the dryer? I find everything there.

    • #26685
      boilermaker
      Participant

      This site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared

      I, too, have had comments disappear when I posted in the comments section that is on the same page as Frenchy’s blogs. These are the comments with the time delay that need some sort of moderator approval.

      The title of Frenchy’s daily blogs also appear in the Blackhawks forum and comments are allowed there. I haven’t commented that way so I don’t know if the disappearing act occurs. I am going to start adding my posts to Frenchy’s articles there in the forum section to see what happens. An added benefit is there is no time delay. Your thoughts are posted immediately so it better serves a conversation among us. Seems kind of dumb to read the blog on one page and then go to another page to comment, but it is what it is.

      EDIT – Make sure you are logged in on the FORUM page. Go to FORUM, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS, select the title of Frenchy’s blog. The first comment is from Frenchy with a link to his blog, click on the link, read the blog, then the comments section at the end of the blog is in the forum type layout. Just add your comment via hitting reply or quote if applicable. Then the comment is posted immediately.

      I also know that when a comment is added it goes to Frenchy via e-mail. He does a good job of responding to each comment, but his replies aren’t addressed so you have to read between the lines to figure out to whom he is responding. (If I may suggest maybe he can add for example @boilermaker, @metalhead, @assman22, etc. at the beginning of each of his responses.) Not blaming Frenchy for the quirks in the system, but maybe he deletes his incoming e-mail after responding and then our posts disappear here too?

      • #26828
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @boilermaker: will do…. I’ve been having some issues with the comments. Sometimes I get the email notification but then the comment isn’t there, and today I didn’t get any emails at all. I’m doing my best to reply to everyone, but it’s not always easy. Hopefully this gets fixed soon so I can keep up with all of you the way I want to.

    • #26760
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      This site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared

      Did you look behind the dryer? I find everything there.

      You’re hitting on all cylinders, rpete.

    • #26762
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      We pretty much know his floor. The defense is going to take a couple years as you say. Locking Knight up early is to our advantage and also sends a message we’re all in keeping young core guys. As I said, I think he’s in a unique situation where shorter term makes more sense to him. Something like 4x$6.75.

      rpete, do you have any concerns about Knight’s mental issues that took him out of the game for a bit? Do you think that factors in the Hawks’ thinking as far as a contract?

    • #26814
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The post that disappeared on me was about Arty. I was reading the bleacher Nation article and they were talking about Arty.

      The supposed pro analysts give KD and Co, a bunch of crap for not drafting Demidov. I don’t know about you guys but watching a 210 pound plus kid with his ability to skate in all directions so quickly and the other tools, if he understands time and space and when to pinch down he will be a stud.

      The 1st pick of the draft this year looks like a stick figure next to Arty. Guys like Arty are very very rare.

      • #26830
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @betweenthedots: You know Levshunov vs. Demidov will be compared for years, just like other teams’ draft choices. But the key isn’t the comparison — it’s Arty’s development. If he grows into the level the Blackhawks expect and plays the role they need, then it’s a great pick for Chicago. We can debate draft picks for hours, but for me it’s about enjoying the season ahead. Whatever Demidov does won’t take away from the excitement of seeing Arty develop into his role.

    • #26820

      Mr.R
      So the site is acting up. I’m trying to post:
      He (Knight) did get pissed at our defense a few times last year. But I still think he showed he’s the best goalie we have. His mental state is Waite’s job along with our “mental performance coaches.”

    • #26822
      Metalhead
      Participant

      re: Arty vs. Demidov

      Time will tell.

      Demidov will put up good numbers quickly, playing forward on a much better team.
      Meanwhile, every mistake Arty makes might wind up in the back of the Hawk’s net.

      If Arty reaches his potential, everything will be fine.
      While he develops, it’s my plan to ignore analyst and fan noise.

      Only time will tell.

    • #26841
      Metalhead
      Participant

      @CoachFrenchy
      Where do I send site improvement suggestions?
      I am also trying to help someone ( Wiz from HB ) who is having trouble getting signed in here. Is there a HHS tech person for signup problems, etc?

      tia

    • #26845
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Where do I send site improvement suggestions?

      There’s a “Contact Us” link at the bottom of the home page.

      • #26848
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Kantserov with an assist in his 3rd game. That’s his only point so far. He does have 16 PIM. Must have picked up a misconduct along the way,

      • #26880
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @boilemaker: Roman Kancerov: 1 assist, 3 SOG FO: 53.9% TOI 11:54 lower of the season but he was gone for 14 MIN PPTOI: 21 seconds and PK 24 seconds… not a bad game overall. His team lost 2-1

    • #26853
      Metalhead
      Participant

      There’s a “Contact Us” link at the bottom of the home page.

      Thanks Boilermaker.
      I’m hoping for something more direct/specific than the general “info” email.
      Wiz is unable to get on here, and I thought maybe Frenchy knows someone who can help him.

      If not, I’ll try that “info” email.

    • #26878
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Wiz is unable to get on here

      Got to get him on here, he’s good people and in the know

    • #26881
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Roman Kancerov, the Bedard of Magneto. If only there was iron in the puck….

    • #26883
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Dots, something wrong with my cursor, it won’t let me quote you but let me reply. Yikes. We’ve been thru this at HB, and as Frenchy correctly pointed out, Arty and Demidov will be compared forever.

      IIRC you were in the same camp as me that yr that the two hardest pieces to add is a #1 Dman, especially a RHD, and a 1 or 2C and if they have size you’re holding aces. Both Artie and Frondell fit that mold although, as you know, I think they went with Frondell cuz he has a super high floor and checks loads of boxes. Generally speaking when you are drafting top 5 and something like that presents you have to grab that rare and coveted commodity. You must, it’s the right thing to do. In fact I posted a month out from that draft KD would take Arty cuz it’s the right thing to do. How often does a projected 220lb RHD who can skate? .. I doubt there was a hole lotta debate within the organIzation between Artie and Demidov and I’d say 90% of the league would have done the same thing.

      Even though, as you know, I’d bet Buium ends up the best Dman outa the draft but that’s not to say Artie wouldn’t be a core piece on a cup winning team that challenges every yr. And as you know with Demidov, I’m the guy who said the kid looks more like Datsyuk than any player I’d seen since him.. No surprise if he hits 80-90-100 pts a few times. But he’s a winger that is a tad smallish. A great commodity but easier to obtain than a #1 Damn or 1 or 2 C…. You take the rarer commodity especially if loads of boxes are checked.

      One more thing, again. 4 yrs ogo Artie was playing in weakish Belurus jrs. Next yr a different continet and USHL. Next yr Michigan St where he’s drafted. Next yr, last yr, 18 NHL games and 52 AHL games. And the kid cleared every hurdle without the benefit of being in the same yr twice……. Simply said IMO Artie has the highest ceiling of anyone in the organIzation not named Bedard ……….

    • #26886
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Mostly agree with you Ricochet. Buium reminds me of Dougie Hamilton. Lots or PP points, but really a #5 defenseman. Demidov will be flashy and put up points. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resemblance to Datsyuk other than he’s Russian. Will be a defensive liability as he’s already shown. Lev will end up a #1 RHD against the strongest opponents within the next 2 years, and putting up points. Kind of a Seabrook+. 3 years away from a top 3 for the Norris.

    • #26947
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      They say it’s between Buium and Parekh, as I’ve said before whatever points a defenseman can provide is a bonus in my eyes. When all said and done i think Arty will be the best two way defenseman of all of them in this draft calls you can’t teach size and explosive first steps in every direction.

      Like Rinzel he may be the best defenseman from that draft calls, another big dman with great skating ability.

    • #26948
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Should be draft class not calls

    • #26957

      Mostly agree with you Ricochet. Buium reminds me of Dougie Hamilton. Lots or PP points, but really a #5 defenseman. Demidov will be flashy and put up points. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resemblance to Datsyuk other than he’s Russian. Will be a defensive liability as he’s already shown. Lev will end up a #1 RHD against the strongest opponents within the next 2 years, and putting up points. Kind of a Seabrook+. 3 years away from a top 3 for the Norris.

      Demidov doesn’t strike me as a 2 way player. All Lev has to do is be as good as Viktor Hedman. I’m finding my posts go through better on phone than laptop.

    • #26973
      Angotti
      Participant

      Remember the Savard for Chelios trade, how did that turn out? All things being equal, I’ll take the defenseman. By the way, it looks like Kaiser is in camp, not signed yet that I’m aware of.

      • #26978
        BJPHAWKFAN
        Participant

        It worked out great. Savard won a Stanley Cup and retired a Blackhawk!

    • #26983
      Angotti
      Participant

      It worked out great. Savard won a Stanley Cup and retired a Blackhawk!

      Yes it did, and after that trade Chelios was more valuable than Savard. Loved Savard and glad he got his cup. Good seeing you here.

    • #27004
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      It worked out great. Savard won a Stanley Cup and retired a Blackhawk!

      Hey Lou, great to see you made it over…

    • #27019
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      They say it’s between Buium and Parekh, as I’ve said before whatever points a defenseman can provide is a bonus in my eyes. When all said and done i think Arty will be the best two way defenseman of all of them in this draft calls you can’t teach size and explosive first steps in every direction.
      where that IQ
      Like Rinzel he may be the best defenseman from that draft calls, another big dman with great skating ability.

      The IQ Buium showed as a true freshman at U of Denver (think they won it all) was near off the charts and it looked like he matured physically to where his IQ was put into action. IMO no higher IQ Dman in that draft than Buium. Good chance to be a real difference maker in the Bigs. …. But, IMO drafting Lev was the right thing to do.

      Watched a lotta Parekh for 2 yrs in Major Junior. This kid has enormous offensive upside and profiles just like Karlsson. A Dman who can pop 80 pts in the Bigs but man, like Karlsson, is defense is terrible and he has a slight frame. I take Buium, Dickinson, Artie ahead of Parekh probably even Yaremchuk too…… Never know, kids grow into things that are hard to predict but I can’t see him as being anything but a soft borderline pts machine.

    • #27041
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Mostly agree with you Ricochet. Buium reminds me of Dougie Hamilton. Lots or PP points, but really a #5 defenseman. Demidov will be flashy and put up points. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resemblance to Datsyuk other than he’s Russian. Will be a defensive liability as he’s already shown. Lev will end up a #1 RHD against the strongest opponents within the next 2 years, and putting up points. Kind of a Seabrook+. 3 years away from a top 3 for the Norris.

      Hey Wiz, really glad to see you made it over. Always enjoyed your hockey thoughts…… IMO Buium and Hamilton are night5 and day. In fact, I thought Rinzel’s ceiling profiled Hamilton (until this last yr when he showed excellent poise, awareness and has become pretty good in his own zone with room to grow still) since they drafted him. Buium’s IQ means he makes plays all over the ice with and without the puck. Dougie at best is a top points producer, valuable, but a bit too one D dimensional whereas Buium impacts the game on every inch of ice.

      Simply said Demidov has the most insane puck possession hands/skill along with insane IQ since Datsyuk. Not good, not great, not elite but insane. I haven’t seen those traits in one player until Demidov. ,,,,, Taking Arty over Demidov is like stopping at the hardware store before you go to the candy store. That’s the way to build even though IMO Demidov has rare skill/IQ….. I’ll tell you what, in 5 yrs in a game 7 I’m petrified if Demidov is on the ice. .. He takes being dangerous to another level.

    • #27049
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Where do I send site improvement suggestions?
      I am also trying to help someone ( Wiz from HB ) who is having trouble getting signed in here. Is there a HHS tech person for signup problems, etc?

      I’m sure you read it from me before, but i had issues for a week until i figured out the email to sign up was going to my Spam folder. Once i found it, i got right in.

      Also, quotes seems to be working for me if i highlight the post, then hit quote

    • #27054
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Since we are talking Defenseman, I want to point out for all those who didn’t live with us over at HB, i have been predicting Rinzel being the best player of all the dmen drafted, including Arty and i’m including Vlasic in that as well. Initial reports saying he’s a man among boys at the rookie camp.

      Time will tell, but when i saw him play and skate at his size two World Jrs ago, I could see the potential. I had not seen him play before that, and was shocked how he was like #6 or 7 dman when the tourney started, and was first pair by the gold medal game. That big and that skating is rare.

    • #27057
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Welcome to the HHS Family, Blackhawks Fans! ????

      A big shoutout to all the new members who joined us this week — we’re glad to have you here! ????

      Any requests or suggestions, don’t hesitate to share. I usually check the forum once or twice a day and aim to write one article per day to keep everyone updated.

      ???? Take a minute to introduce yourself:
      • Who’s your favorite Blackhawks player (past or present)?
      • How long have you been a Hawks fan?
      • What excites you most about the team this season?

      Looking forward to getting to know everyone and building this community together. Welcome aboard! ????

    • #27058
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      There’s been a lot of talk about Artyom Levshunov, Zeev Buium, Zayne Parekh, and Ivan Demidov lately. My take? It’s still way too early to compare them. Outside of a few games for Arty, none of them have really played in the NHL yet.

      Each comes from a different background — Arty and Buium out of the NCAA, Parekh from the CHL, and Demidov from the KHL. I watched all of them last season, and like any prospects, they all had stretches of ups and downs. That’s normal. Development isn’t a straight, linear path — it’s full of peaks and valleys.

      That’s why NHL teams are investing millions into development staffs. The real test is how these players adapt — the speed of the game, their decision-making, their consistency. Until then, we have to let things play out before declaring who’s better.

      Fans will debate Demidov vs. Arty for years, and that’s fine. Personally, I’ve seen every Demidov game last year — he’s a special talent. But I’m also comfortable with the Blackhawks’ choice. If Levshunov develops properly, he’ll be a cornerstone defenseman and that’s worth the pick.

      And don’t forget Sam Rinzel. He’s a perfect example of a player who quickly figured out what it takes to play at the NHL level. I fully expect him to be in the Calder Trophy conversation all year. For me, instead of Demidov vs. Arty, the real storyline might be Arty vs. Rinzel.

      All in all, the Blackhawks’ scouting staff deserves credit. In the last few years, they’ve built a prospect pool that looks like the foundation of a contending team. Have agreed great weekend of hockey…

    • #27064
      boilermaker
      Participant

      From Bamford’s article, Hawks prospects were practicing a 1-3-1 PP setup. The two units:

      Jack Pridham
      Ryan Greene — Oliver Moore — Nick Lardis
      Sam Rinzel

      Marek Vanacker
      Nathan Behm — AJ Spellacy — Aidan Thompson
      Artyom Levhsunov

      Something to watch for this weekend.

    • #27065
      wizardofi
      Participant

      The Lev-Demidov dynamic reminds me of the Bedard-Michkov arguments for that years draft. Funny thing is I hear no one comparing Celebrini and Demidov, even on Montreal boards

    • #27068
      Assman22
      Participant

      Mostly agree with you Ricochet. Buium reminds me of Dougie Hamilton. Lots or PP points, but really a #5 defenseman. Demidov will be flashy and put up points. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resemblance to Datsyuk other than he’s Russian. Will be a defensive liability as he’s already shown. Lev will end up a #1 RHD against the strongest opponents within the next 2 years, and putting up points. Kind of a Seabrook+. 3 years away from a top 3 for the Norris.

      Demidov doesn’t strike me as a 2 way player.

      That’s because he’s not and he proved that in his small sample of games with Montreal. He looked lost when his team didn’t have possession. Not sure he can keep up with top 6 speed in NHL with his skating.

      • #27194
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Also Knight’s contract has a 15 team no trade clause the last year.

    • #27113
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The Lev-Demidov dynamic reminds me of the Bedard-Michkov arguments for that years draft. Funny thing is I hear no one comparing Celebrini and Demidov, even on Montreal boards

      That’s because all the so called pro paid analysts agreed with SJ pick.

    • #27124
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Have to say this is a really encouraging article by Pope

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2025/09/11/blackhawks-prospects-nick-lardis-nhl-ohl-frank-nazar-john-tavares-vincent-trocheck

      Lardis is leaning on Nazar to figure out what he needs to do to play in the NHL. I really hope to see the same tanacity from Lardis and all these other rookies in the near future.

    • #27141
      Haru
      Participant

      Hopefully Lardis and the other prospects can learn from both Nazar and Vlasic that not making the club right off the bat can be time well spent in the AHL. They both appeared to have worked hard on their deficiencies and have earned their way back on the squad with nice long term contracts. In the case of Reichel, not so much, but I’d like to see if this summer’s training regimen has worked out for him. Hard to give up Reichel’s speed and skill. I’m hopeful that he prevails.

      • #27145
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @haru Great comment this morning, my friend. For some reason, I’m not sold on Reichel… but we have to give him a chance and see how he looks at training camp

    • #27152
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I think if Reichel could learn how to backcheck with his speed, he would make himself more valuable to this team. It is a make or break year for him.

    • #27153
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I think it’s just a good rule to not really give up on a kid until they hit over 200 games in the NHL, or are 24 years and older.

      I believe Reichel needs talent around him, i thought he looked well in spurts with Smith who has decent scoring touch, Maroon decent hockey IQ. What i didn’t understand was that line began to cook and LR broke it apart.

      If the kid would just use his speed to be tenacious and play in the opponents face constantly without the puck and not be on the wrong side of it more times than not, there would be a roster spot for him in every game.

      But we are finally here, Reichel is now a possible trade chip, an after thought of being on this team, because of the kids coming up behind him.

    • #27154
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Knight signs a bridge deal!!! 3 yrs at 5.8 per……….I think this is what I was hoping for. Hawks don’t rope themselves to a 5-8 yr deal for an uber talented kid that hasn’t played more than 40ish games in a yr. And for Knight he fills his pockets with cash in the near term and if he hits anywhere near his ceiling he’s gonna get a big fat long term deal.. Risk either way for both sides but the 3 yr deal is the most risk averse option.

    • #27155
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Damn that seems like a team friendly deal. Not a bad move by Knight gets stability knows he’s going to be here for the next 4 years.

    • #27157
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Damn that seems like a team friendly deal. Not a bad move by Knight gets stability knows he’s going to be here for the next 4 years.

      The extension is 3 yrs, Dots. ..

    • #27160
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m including this year, i think he would of beena RFA after this season?

      All this going on and wyatt Kaiser, crickets

    • #27171
      Haru
      Participant

      Kaiser’s been participating in a lot of team on/off ice events including yesterday. He doesn’t seem too worried about it.

    • #27177

      I’m including this year, i think he would of beena RFA after this season?

      All this going on and wyatt Kaiser, crickets

      He should have waited a decent year and he’s over $6M.

    • #27185
      boilermaker
      Participant

      He should have waited a decent year and he’s over $6M.

      He signed the contract so it must be what he wanted now. If he plays well for the next 4 years, he’ll be due an even bigger pay day while in his prime. Plus he gets the security after dealing with his OCD.

      If Commesso, the new Russian kid, or Gajan pan out over the next few years Knight’s contract is tradeable if necessary.

      • #27244
        Mr Ricochet
        Participant

        No good, Artie. 1-nuttin Blues.

      • #27246
        Mr Ricochet
        Participant

        No good, Artie. 1-nuttin Blues……..Nice backcheck by Spellacy. May have thwarted a Grade A.

    • #27190
      Angotti
      Participant

      Good sign by KD. As far as Reichel, hopefully the light goes on. He was a PPG player in the AHL, so the talent is there, maybe Blashill can get him going, otherwise he will be moved.

    • #27192
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s nice to see 2 guys signed already before their RFA contracts are up.

      I know it may seem like Knight could of gotten paid more if he would of held out but i think he’s just happy he’s in a place where he gets a chance to be the main guy and kind of like Hjalmarrsson he already got $13,500,000 mil in his current contract, damn that’s $30 mil in 6 years.

    • #27201
      totem
      Participant

      Was able to see the stream of the SHL game Lulea vs. Malmo on FloHockey today. Lulea won easily, 5-0. Some prospect notes:

      William Håkansson Lulea, 8-Oct-07 6-4 207 LD (2026 Eligible, Wiz #15)
      Hakansson’s size stands out and he fits the profile of the big, agile defenseman that we see more and more recently. Currently ranked mid-1st round for 2026. He is a smooth skater that makes good, accurate passes. Played conservatively as this is only his fourth game; was careful to stay back on defense and not jump into the rush too quickly. Had a turnover in front of his net on a back pass that maybe he wasn’t expecting. Good change of direction, acceleration and positioning. Hard to tell much from first game but looks as if he will improve quickly, development of his offense might determine his draft slot. Kind of resembles Radim Mrtka who went #12 to Colorado in 2025. 47-7-15-22 82 PIM last year in Sweden J20.

      Casper Juustovaara (Karlsson) Lulea, 25-Oct-07 5-8 168 C (2026 Eligible)
      Juustovara is a smaller player but has the movement and energy that you are looking for. Pushed forward on offense and looked to receive passes down low. Had a shot block and was very disruptive on penalty kills, using stick to break up passes and clear the zone. Could get some late-round consideration in 2026 if he can generate some offense.
      New to the SHL this year, 50-14-24-38 in J20 last year in Sweden J20.

      Isac Nilsson, Malmo 10-Apr-07 6-0 176 LW (Undrafted 2025)
      Was opportunistic on offense and had a couple of chances including a breakaway. Dropped through the draft last year and would need a jump in scoring to get consideration in 2026.
      New to league, 1 SHL game last year, had 43-11-19-30 in J20.

    • #27232
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Great take on the Spencer Knight contract ???? My article is written but I’m waiting on HHS to release it.

      In the meantime, a few prospect notes:
      • Frondell had a strong game today.
      • Kanarsky is off to a hot start in the VHL: 2–0–1 with a 1.62 GAA and .956 SV%.
      • Kancerov is looking solid in his first three games — only one point so far, but he’s logging big minutes and playing an important role.

      • #27247
        Mr Ricochet
        Participant

        Anyone have this game’s Hawks roster? …. Can’t find it at their site.

    • #27233

      I think if Reichel could learn how to backcheck with his speed, he would make himself more valuable to this team. It is a make or break year for him.

      Reichel has to be in board battles and win them. Go into the corner, behind the net get a few wrap arounds or come out with the puck and feed guys in the slot and in front of the net. He’s tall but light.

    • #27249
      boilermaker
      Participant
    • #27251
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Harding from Rinzel

    • #27258
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I’m liking this Russian goalie, Bereznoy. Mostly under control, knows where his net is and is square to the shooter.

    • #27259
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Wow, Moore will be wild this year

    • #27260
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m thinking Arty is going to be in the Rock this year.

      Really liked the team speed tonight

    • #27261
      totem
      Participant

      I’m liking this Russian goalie, Bereznoy. Mostly under control, knows where his net is and is square to the shooter.

      Really good reactions. Likes to come out and play the puck which can be good or bad, but he has time to calibrate that in the AHL.

      And as much as I initially didn’t like the Cumby pick, he held his own tonight. He is 20 yo already so maybe he stays in Rockford instead of returning to Seattle.

    • #27262
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I’m thinking Arty is going to be in the Rock this year.

      Arty didn’t play a bad game, but it wasn’t his best. Once the team got it’s feet under them part way through the 1st, they looked good. Tomorrows game should be a lot better

      • #27299
        BetweenTheDots
        Participant

        It was nice to see Rinzel look like the best player on the ice last night. I’m really looking forward to see how he handles a full NHL season. This kid looks like a star to be in the NHL.

      • #27692
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Back to hockey. Tab Bamford gives his thoughts on all the Hawks prospects that played in the games over the weekend.

        https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/09/15/tom-kurvers-prospect-showcase-comments-on-the-entire-blackhawks-roster/

      • #27870
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Hawks offering defenseman Matt Grzelcyk a PTO.

        Powers reporting the Hawks are offering a one year deal at a modest increase above his ELC AAV. If he plays well probably rewarded with a more substantial multi-year deal next season. To me sound like it’s around 1M or 1.2M.

      • #27871
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Hawks training camp roster.

        Roster

    • #27303
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I’m really looking forward to see how he handles a full NHL season.

      I expect the ex-collegians Rinzel, Moore, etc to hit the wall around mid-season. By that point they would have played more games than they did at college against bigger, stronger competition, and with a lot more travel. It happened to Bedard and Vlasic last season during their second year in the league.

      Rinzel looks very promising, but this is a growing year for him and the other kids. I just hope he and everyone else stay healthy.

    • #27331
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I missed the first period as my wife decided that we were going to drive across the state. The second period looked promising for these future stars. I would call the third period even. It looked like the Blues were going after Lardis with some heavy hits. Moore showed off his speed in OT and buried it. Good for him.

    • #27354
      boilermaker
      Participant

      my wife decided

      Happy wife, happy life.

    • #27443
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I don’t understand how the Bears draft a QB who can throw a deep ball in college and absolutely suck at it at the pro level

      • #27462
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Kantserov with a goal and apple in Magnitogorsk’ 6-3 win.

      • #27733
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @BOILERMAKER: Roman Kancerov: 1G 1A 2PTS +1 FO%:33% TOI: 16:31 PP: 4:12 PK: 1:25 1PPP

    • #27497
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      First period was pretty even. Both teams, Meh.Lardis had a couple of nice shots. Spellancy, not much of a fight there.

    • #27662

      It was nice to see Rinzel look like the best player on the ice last night. I’m really looking forward to see how he handles a full NHL season. This kid looks like a star to be in the NHL.

      I saw the old Drew Doughty, the one who killed us in the 2014 Conf Finals the first time I saw tape of Rinzel.

    • #27663

      I don’t understand how the Bears draft a QB who can throw a deep ball in college and absolutely suck at it at the pro level

      Everybody is blaming Poles. Johnson asked for an offensive line and more offensive weapons. You can’t plug every hole in one year. On paper the defense should be much better. They hit a lot in camp it was a hard camp. But no starters played games. IDK.

    • #27691
      Assman22
      Participant

      I don’t understand how the Bears draft a QB who can throw a deep ball in college and absolutely suck at it at the pro level

      Everybody is blaming Poles. Johnson asked for an offensive line and more offensive weapons. You can’t plug every hole in one year. On paper the defense should be much better. They hit a lot in camp it was a hard camp. But no starters played games. IDK.

      One, Caleb rolled out a lot in college but in the NFL all 3 of his coordinators have made him a pocket QB. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be a pocket QB but at least roll him out some of the time and mix in more RPO too. He’s 6’1 so he can’t see in the pocket as well as Goff who is 6’4. He also gets a ton of batted balls at the line.

      Two, the defense sucks with the new coordinator and no one should be surprised since he’s really never been that great of a coordinator and not sure how he kept getting work.

    • #27712
      Metalhead
      Participant
    • #27879

      Hawks training camp roster.

      Roster

      Crazy, lot of bodies but doesn’t appear to be many openings. How can that be when you’re a last place team…

    • #27882
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hawks offering defenseman Matt Grzelcyk a PTO.

      Zero chance I can spell that name.
      If he sticks around he will be Grizelda

    • #27905
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      No Gagne on the roster. He looked good at the faceoff dot.

    • #27930

      Hawks offering defenseman Matt Grzelcyk a PTO.

      Zero chance I can spell that name.
      If he sticks around he will be Grizelda

      I’ve got 8 Dmen and 15 Forwards from the list making the team without him.

    • #27960
      Assman22
      Participant

      Hawks offering defenseman Matt Grzelcyk a PTO.

      Zero chance I can spell that name.
      If he sticks around he will be Grizelda

      Got a built in Grrr lol

    • #28080
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’ve got 8 Dmen and 15 Forwards from the list making the team without him.

      (8) D-man possibly rostered w/ the Weber contract (if Brossoit is not rostered as a 3rd goalie to make the cap floor)
      If Brossoit is healthy, then (7) D-man likely rostered:
      1 Murphy
      2 Vlasic
      3 Rinzel
      4 Kaiser
      + (3) out of this group of Grizelda and 6 youngsters (Lev, Del Mastro, Korchinski, Allan, Crevier, Harding) <<<< all (6) here are waivers exempt

      Grizelda could make the 23 man roster if:
      a) the team slow rolls the young D-men.
      b) team has a plan to trade Murphy and wants a veteran
      c) insurance against training camp injuries

      “C” is most likely, but with all the youngsters, “A” is not out of the question.

      Overall not very likely, but not out of the realm of possibility either.

    • #28089
      Haru
      Participant

      + (3) out of this group of Grizelda and 6 youngsters (Lev, Del Mastro, Korchinski, Allan, Crevier, Harding) <<<< all (6) here are waivers exempt

      Crevier is no longer waiver exempt. Serves well as a 7th D-man.

    • #28100
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Crevier is no longer waiver exempt. Serves well as a 7th D-man.

      My bad ! Thanks for the correction, Haru ! ????

      Makes the D lineup even more interesting as the season starts.
      If they keep Crevier as D7, I would add a few percentage points increase that Grizelda make the team.
      Still not very likely unless Murphy/Vlasic/Rinzel/Kaiser get dinged before game 1.

      • #28173
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

        For a veteran like Grzelcyk, sitting out as a healthy scratch isn’t ideal, but it’s part of the job. For a young prospect, however, that role can stall development. They’re better off logging big minutes in Rockford than watching from the press box.

        The bigger question lies with Chicago’s top prospects. Players like Artyom Levshunov and Kevin Korchinski can’t just be sheltered on the third pair playing 12 minutes a night. They need to be in the top four, eating 15+ minutes, and seeing time on special teams.

        That’s the challenge of a rebuild stacked with young talent — too many prospects ready at once. In the short term, it can create lineup headaches and growing pains. But long term, if managed properly, it’s the kind of problem that turns into a payoff.

    • #28165
      Assman22
      Participant

      Crevier is no longer waiver exempt. Serves well as a 7th D-man.

      My bad ! Thanks for the correction, Haru ! ????

      Makes the D lineup even more interesting as the season starts.
      If they keep Crevier as D7, I would add a few percentage points increase that Grizelda make the team.
      Still not very likely unless Murphy/Vlasic/Rinzel/Kaiser get dinged before game 1.

      Really sucks Crevier gets locked into the big club with all these other young d-men. Crevier is probably our #9-10 d-man in the organization.

    • #28182
      Metalhead
      Participant

      The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

      The cap floor matters with their roster construction.

      Currently, I believe they need Brossoit *or* the Weber contract on the roster to make the cap floor safely.
      Without either of those contracts, Kaiser + the 23rd rostered player (Grzelcyk or a young F/D) would need to total approx. $4mm in salary to barely make the floor.

    • #28185
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Hey hey hey Kaiser finally agreed to a deal.

      $1.7 per for 2 years

    • #28192
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hey hey hey Kaiser finally agreed to a deal.

      $1.7 per for 2 years

      Very interesting, still an RFA at the end of this contract.

      updated roster and cap situation:

      The 25/26 NHL Cap Floor is $70.6 million.
      Here is a list of player salaries, shown in $ millions.
      This is based on capwages.com, but showing likely roster spots

      (13) forwards:
      5.50 Bertuzzi
      5.50 Burakovsky
      5.40 Teuvo
      4.50 Foligno
      4.25 Dickinson
      4.04 Mikheyev
      4.00 Donato
      2.00 Lafferty
      1.20 Reichel (only because he is not waivers exempt, might be gone via trade or waiver claim)
      0.95 Bedard
      0.95 Nazar
      0.95 Greene
      0.94 Moore
      40.18 total

      (8) defense
      7.86 Weber contract
      4.60 Vlasic
      4.40 Murphy
      1.70 Kaiser
      0.92 Korchinski
      0.98 Levshunov
      0.91 Rinzel
      0.86 Del Mastro
      22.23 total

      (2) goalies
      4.50 Knight
      2.75 Soderblom
      7.25 total

      (1) retained salary
      2.50 Jones

      (1) buyout
      3.23 Brodie

      $75.39 million total, $4.79 million above the cap floor.

      If Brossoit is healthy and they replace Weber with him (3G 7D 13F) their total drops to $0.23 million above the cap floor.

    • #28201

      The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

      The cap floor matters with their roster construction.

      Currently, I believe they need Brossoit *or* the Weber contract on the roster to make the cap floor safely.
      Without either of those contracts, Kaiser + the 23rd rostered player (Grzelcyk or a young F/D) would need to total approx. $4mm in salary to barely make the floor.

      I think Mr.G starts the year in Rockford unless Murphy is traded.

    • #28230
      Assman22
      Participant

      I think Mr.G starts the year in Rockford unless Murphy is traded.

      More likely Grizz will be released from his PTO with Kaiser onboard to seek employment elsewhere.

    • #28245
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      So in my opinion

      Vlasic Rinzel
      Kaiser Murphy
      DelMastro Crevier

      Possible Grecz

      This way you can keep
      Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

      I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

    • #28263
      Assman22
      Participant

      So in my opinion

      Vlasic Rinzel
      Kaiser Murphy
      DelMastro Crevier

      Possible Grecz

      This way you can keep
      Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

      I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

      I’d be willing to bet only one of Arty or KK get sent to Rockford. Can’t really pair them together responsibly and both need top pairing minutes for development. I’m leaning towards Arty getting the nod so he can continue his development with guys that are more experienced than him and also think Murphy needs to be bumped to 3rd pairing TOI in hopes he can stay healthy until the TDL.

      • #28275
        BetweenTheDots
        Participant

        Response to assman

        We’ll see but what better way for at least Arty or KK to get better defensively when they are similar active players in the ozone. You want a dman to activate at the right time, if you got 2 guys that can do it paired together what a weapon they become in the ozone, this notion that they can’t be good defensively playing together is minimizing the dynamics of what can really become a really good NHL pairing.

    • #28268

      So in my opinion

      Vlasic Rinzel
      Kaiser Murphy
      DelMastro Crevier

      Possible Grecz

      This way you can keep
      Arty, Korch, Allan down on the farm working on their game

      I’ve read several articles about having to keep a stay at home defenseman with Arty? I think that’s the path of least resistance take. He didn’t look that much different in the Kulvers game as he did when he played with the Blackhawks unless he shows me no thoughtless plays in the preseason they have to do everything as an org to develop the defensive side of the game and when and when not to activate. If they do this and he does learn which i think he will, having Rinzel and Arty on the right side controlling both ends of the ice for 45 to 50 minutes of the game is an incredible weapon for the future of this team.

      I think they’re looking for 2K and Arty to develop at the NHL level. I think Allan gets traded?

    • #28269
      Metalhead
      Participant

      If Grecz looks good (even ok+) in camp I wouldn’t be surprised if they slightly overpay him on a 1 year contract.
      His contract money could help them stay above the floor.

      The unknown cap hit / roster spot right now depends on the status of Brossoit.

      edit:
      I went down a rabbit hole w/ LTIR and regular IR rules.
      If they are allowed to place Weber on IR (instead of LTIR) then his salary counts against the cap floor
      but he does not use a roster spot. In that case the cap floor is not much of an issue for the Hawks.

      I could not tell if that’s allowed w/ a player who has not played for 4 full NHL seasons.
      (but it’s the NHL so definitely possible)

    • #28277
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I went down a rabbit hole w/ LTIR and regular IR rules.
      If they are allowed to place Weber on IR (instead of LTIR) then his salary counts against the cap floor
      but he does not use a roster spot. In that case the cap floor is not much of an issue for the Hawks.

      I agree with you on the LTIR/IR rules. They can keep Weber and Brossoit on regular IR, use their salaries toward the cap, and fill their roster spots. The concern about keeping above the cap floor is overblown.

    • #28286
      totem
      Participant

      https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/chicago-blackhawks/latest-news/kyle-davidson-gives-injury-updates-on-day-one-of-training-camp

      Injury updates. Brossoit looks like he is out for the year so probably will never play for CHI.

      Good news, Spellacy and Pridham should be only out for a little while.

      Ty Henry probably out for the season. Too bad because he has to be signed after this year or his rights are lost. Needed a good year at Erie to have a chance at a contract. CHI will probably have to look elsewhere for defense depth once the current logjam clears.

    • #28290
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I agree with you on the LTIR/IR rules. They can keep Weber and Brossoit on regular IR

      Are you sure that they can do this?
      I was not able to verify that for certain.

    • #28313
      Haru
      Participant

      Kantserov sure can fire the puck. Wicked just wicked!!

      https://x.com/ByScottPowers/status/1968788656451191144

    • #28320
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Are you sure that they can do this?

      In the NHL, Injured Reserve (IR) allows a team to fill a roster spot for a player out for at least seven days but doesn’t provide salary cap relief. Long-Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) is for players out for at least 10 games and 24 days and provides the team with salary cap relief, allowing them to exceed the cap by the amount of the LTIR player’s salary

    • #28322
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

      For a veteran like Grzelcyk, sitting out as a healthy scratch isn’t ideal, but it’s part of the job. For a young prospect, however, that role can stall development. They’re better off logging big minutes in Rockford than watching from the press box.

      The bigger question lies with Chicago’s top prospects. Players like Artyom Levshunov and Kevin Korchinski can’t just be sheltered on the third pair playing 12 minutes a night. They need to be in the top four, eating 15+ minutes, and seeing time on special teams.

      That’s the challenge of a rebuild stacked with young talent — too many prospects ready at once. In the short term, it can create lineup headaches and growing pains. But long term, if managed properly, it’s the kind of problem that turns into a payoff.

      Going into the season with 1 deeply experienced Dman in Murphy and the rest of the unit having less than 100 NHL games played ain’t wise. I don’t care how many of your young Dmen are blue chippers or can’t misses they are still just babies at this level. Some will be overwhelmed some will do ok but hit a wall but each one will have some sort of a problem acclimating into the toughest position to do so at this level.

      Gryz is a vet and can still play. Been on some good teams, knows his way around the league and has a fine profile to fit with this group. ……. You almost knew KD would add a vet to the backend but he was patient and got a Gryz at no cost.. Depending on camp of course but I see Gryz breaking camp with the club and having a role with this squad… Good fit, IMO. He’ll help keep things from going sideways and Knight, who’s an NHL starter for the first time, will appreciate Gryz a whole lot….

    • #28343
      Metalhead
      Participant

      In the NHL, Injured Reserve (IR) allows a team to fill a roster spot for a player out for at least seven days but doesn’t provide salary cap relief. Long-Term Injured Reserve (LTIR) is for players out for at least 10 games and 24 days and provides the team with salary cap relief, allowing them to exceed the cap by the amount of the LTIR player’s salary

      Hi Wiz. I found that part of the rule distinction.
      What I could not find was specifically whether a team can assign *regular* IR to a player who has “qualified” for LTIR for years (like Weber)
      It’s clear abuse of the spirit of the cap floor.
      Like I said though, it’s the NHL so it might be allowed.

    • #28345
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I think Mr.G starts the year in Rockford unless Murphy is traded.

      More likely Grizz will be released from his PTO with Kaiser onboard to seek employment elsewhere.

      AssMan, are you comfortable with just Murphy as your only vet on defense and the rest young or straight up rookies with all having less than 100-150 NHL games with no safety net on the roster or even at RKF? … I think it’s just crazy for a club looking to be more competitive, without some crazy anchor contract vet from outside vesthe system, and a young stud goalie taking the reigns as an NHL starter for the first time in his NHL career.

      I love the idea of having a solid vet who can still play on 2 of the 3 D pairings. It gives Blashil some structure every system needs and still leaves 2-3 spots open for whichever kid/prospect plays best and earns a spot. The rest go to RKF and develops.

    • #28347
      wizardofi
      Participant

      What I could not find was specifically whether a team can assign *regular* IR to a player who has “qualified” for LTIR for years (like Weber)

      It resets every July 1. They have to show up at the team site in Sept to be evaluated by the team doctors. After that it is up to the GM to put them on IR or LTIR. Once they are put on LTIR, they stay there until they are healthy or July 1, whichever comes first.

      Also, since the LTIR is over, they count against the cap over the summer. This can hamper some teams with what they can do in the offseason since they can only go over the cap by 10% in the offseason.

    • #28351
      Metalhead
      Participant

      It resets every July 1. They have to show up at the team site in Sept to be evaluated by the team doctors. After that it is up to the GM to put them on IR or LTIR. Once they are put on LTIR, they stay there until they are healthy or July 1, whichever comes first.

      ???? thanks.

      BTW, are you the “Wiz” from HB who studies junior hockey and publishes his NHL draft rankings every year?

    • #28354
      Gramps28
      Participant

      It resets every July 1. They have to show up at the team site in Sept to be evaluated by the team doctors. After that it is up to the GM to put them on IR or LTIR. Once they are put on LTIR, they stay there until they are healthy or July 1, whichever comes first.

      ???? thanks.

      BTW, are you the “Wiz” from HB who studies junior hockey and publishes his NHL draft rankings every year?

      different wiz, metalhead. that wiz hasn’t registered here as of yet.

    • #28358
      totem
      Participant

      Peterborough 5, Brampton 3. Some prospect notes:

      Adam Novotný Peterborough 13-Nov-07 6-1 198 LW (Wiz #8)
      Has the size, speed and puck control that could land him in the top half of the first round. Very good control on rushes but a couple of times was directed to the edges. He is new to the league and will find ways to attack the net. Willing in the physical game. Plays the left side on the power play, has hard shot and good passing. Played all over last year in Czechia (different levels and international tournaments), being in one place all year should help.

      Colin Fitzgerald Peterborough 1-Apr-08 6-2 194 RC (Wiz #32)
      Fitzgerald showed well-rounded play, good passing, and a nose for the net. Had chances several times on rushes, picked the top corner from the left side on the power play. Made some defensive plays as well. 1G, 1A in the game, 2nd star. Rated end of first round for the 2026 draft, could jump higher if able to score well. Was 48-12-16-28 with 45 PIM at Peterborough last year.

      Matej Stankoven Brampton 28-Feb-08 6-0 183 LC
      Matej Stankoven is apparently a distant relative of Logan Stankoven per this article:
      http://www.nhl.com/news/dallas-stars-logan-stankoven-family-cheering-from-slovakia

      Stankoven played top 6 center tonight for Brampton. Brampton is rebuilding this year as they have lost most of their top players, including Porter Martone. He has decent size and good energy, plays on the power play and shows a willingness to go to the front of the net. Drew a penalty on a rush where he got around the edge and attacked the net. Seems to have a good all-around game, and though not ranked now, could generate some draft interest if he is able to make the NA transition and score some. Could be a good bottom 6 energy line center with development. Does not look like a big scorer at this point. Was 29-15-13-28 in Slovakia U20 last year.

    • #28363
      Metalhead
      Participant

      different wiz, metalhead. that wiz hasn’t registered here as of yet.

      Thanks Gramps.

    • #28364
      wizardofi
      Participant

      BTW, are you the “Wiz” from HB who studies junior hockey and publishes his NHL draft rankings every year?[/quote]

      No, that would be Bill Płaczek who posts his draft rankings at https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2026 Solid stuff. I’m the other guy

    • #28365
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m the other guy

      Thanks.
      I thought the sentences were kinda fully formed and correctly spelled to be “him” but wanted to be sure.
      ????

    • #28414
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides when i think about Arty and KK playing together, it’s actually the responsibility of one of the forwards to recognize that the defenseman activated and cover for them.

    • #28415
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m the other guy

      Thanks.
      I thought the sentences were kinda fully formed and correctly spelled to be “him” but wanted to be sure.
      ????

      True that, hahaha

    • #28427
      boilermaker
      Participant

      different wiz, metalhead. that wiz hasn’t registered here as of yet.

      Last week I noticed a comment from @THErealwiz1901 in one of Frenchy’s blogs.

      Where Does Knight Fit In Goalie Market?

      I noticed it was posted September 10 at 2:41 p.m. Coincidentally, earlier that day at 12:44 p.m. he was over at HockeyBuzz asking for help to register here. So maybe he figured it out, is registered here, and just doesn’t post often.

    • #28464
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Last week I noticed a comment from @THErealwiz1901 in one of Frenchy’s blogs.

      Good eye, thanks for the info.
      There has not been a post on the HB main forum in 2 weeks so hopefully almost everyone found HHS by now.

    • #28466

      The Grzelcyk situation comes down to roster construction. If the Blackhawks go with 7 defensemen and 14 forwards, Grzelcyk could find himself as the extra man. But if they carry 8 defensemen and 13 forwards, his experience gives him the edge.

      For a veteran like Grzelcyk, sitting out as a healthy scratch isn’t ideal, but it’s part of the job. For a young prospect, however, that role can stall development. They’re better off logging big minutes in Rockford than watching from the press box.

      The bigger question lies with Chicago’s top prospects. Players like Artyom Levshunov and Kevin Korchinski can’t just be sheltered on the third pair playing 12 minutes a night. They need to be in the top four, eating 15+ minutes, and seeing time on special teams.

      That’s the challenge of a rebuild stacked with young talent — too many prospects ready at once. In the short term, it can create lineup headaches and growing pains. But long term, if managed properly, it’s the kind of problem that turns into a payoff.

      Going into the season with 1 deeply experienced Dman in Murphy and the rest of the unit having less than 100 NHL games played ain’t wise. I don’t care how many of your young Dmen are blue chippers or can’t misses they are still just babies at this level. Some will be overwhelmed some will do ok but hit a wall but each one will have some sort of a problem acclimating into the toughest position to do so at this level.

      Gryz is a vet and can still play. Been on some good teams, knows his way around the league and has a fine profile to fit with this group. ……. You almost knew KD would add a vet to the backend but he was patient and got a Gryz at no cost.. Depending on camp of course but I see Gryz breaking camp with the club and having a role with this squad… Good fit, IMO. He’ll help keep things from going sideways and Knight, who’s an NHL starter for the first time, will appreciate Gryz a whole lot….

      I see no reason why all three defense pairs can’t play a similar amount of minutes. There’s no law saying 3rd pair must play less.

    • #28483
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      rpete, the club wants to take a step, to get the offense going, to create chances for their young talent. You can’t unlock any of that without some kind of stability in your own end. You can’t be getting hemmed in using 25-30 seconds to get the puck out cuz there is nothing left in the tank for that shift. Or, not being able to steady the structure defensively when the opponent is buzzing and creating chances.

      Gryz will bring some stability to a very very young backend and not clog up the pipeline.

    • #28495
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      All i know is in glad KD and the Blackhawks aren’t like Verbeek and ducks owners. This is the 2nd forward who hit RFA contract for that team and the negotiations are not going well at all. Not even practicing with them. Would not mind seeing McTavish in a Blackhawks sweater

    • #28511
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      All i know is in glad KD and the Blackhawks aren’t like Verbeek and ducks owners. This is the 2nd forward who hit RFA contract for that team and the negotiations are not going well at all. Not even practicing with them. Would not mind seeing McTavish in a Blackhawks sweater

      Hope this takes. .. Been waiting to post this and think it’s a great topic for Frenchy to post on. Should KD trade for McTavish? A for real trade where a Rinzel or Levshunov goes the other way.

      Most said yr after yr that KD should draft the BPA, no matter the position. He’s gone off the board with some late 1sts but for the most part he’s taken BPA and as a result his pipeline is full of excellent D prospects. We all also said when the time comes KD can trade from strength. Very good logic and a fine way to build IMO.

      We also know KD ain’t scared. He showed us that in his very first draft and resistance to adding money and term for a FA forward when he was losing a lotta games. IMO he’s gone from phase to phase of the rebuild with laser focus and determination to stick to the plan. No shortcuts and no speeding up the plan has him in a great position being flush with draft premium draft picks, flush with blue chip prospects especially on defense. .. I also think KD has been laying in wait since he took the job and is now like a jack in the box sitting on a coil ready to burst and jump up.

      For a McTavish to become available and then pounce. A kid who I have profiling as some degree of Bennett. A tough gamer who is in every scrum, playing in front of both nets, a player who has the size (220lbs) and demeanor to take every tough minute a season and playoffs have to offer and offer a floor of a 55-60 pt threat (Bennett’s high pts in a season is 51). A player who will impact a game in every zone……. And as a centerman he’s rare, as rare as what a Lev or Rinzel brings.

      Huge swing but an add like this gives you, in no particular order, a heavy/big/tough to play against McTavish and Frondell down the middle as your #1 and #2 centerman. That’s not only elite but it’s what gets clubs deep into the playoffs, consistently. ………. I’d do it but the question is will KD do it? McTavish has to be available and the Hawk’s organIzation has to be looking hard at this. …….. Kid is 22 yrs old, 220 lbs, has played 220 NHL games, put up 52 pts last yr and is a centerman who was a 3rd overall pick.

      I’d get him as cheaply as I can but would give up a Lev or Rinzel if it took that to add this skilled beast to Frondell down the middle for 10 yrs.

    • #28535
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      RIP Eddie Giacomin. One of the great goalies of my youth.

    • #28538
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Hey, Mr. Ricochet. Did you mean Yute?

    • #28542
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey, Mr. Ricochet. Did you mean Yute?

      I’m a bit too far west in the Midwest to speak like that, but ye man most times I see the word youth I think of that pronunciation. … What a movie that was and although I wasn’t a yute anymore I still didn’t know jack. Been in love with Marissa Tormei ever since. Yowsa……..

    • #28598
      Angotti
      Participant

      Boilermaker
      Bamford on day 2 of camp.

      https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/09/19/blackhawks-day-two-training-camp-takeaways-bag-skate-moores-shot-attention-to-details/
      I see that EDM has been paired up with Rinzel quite a bit the first two days of training camp. I like that pairing, it would free up Rinzel to get more involved offensively.

    • #28637
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’ve read a couple camp articles.
      One thing I’m waiting to hear is whether or not Bedard looks faster.

      Didn’t he say that was one of his goals this off season?

    • #29485
      totem
      Participant

      More long-winded prospect notes. WHL started tonight.

      September 19, 2025 – Prince George 6, Portland 1

      Jett Lajoie Prince George 5-Feb-07 5-11 178 RW (Undrafted 2025)
      Lajoie started fast last year but his scoring faded later as older drafted players returned to the team, had 67-14-21-35 total and went undrafted. He has grown an inch or two and added several pounds since last year, and is now much more physical on the forecheck and around the net. Working hard down low to get possession and pass out front, stayed around the net. Good shot, scored two late goals in the game, several good passes in the game. Will need to stay physical and keep up scoring through the season to be selected in the mid to late rounds of the draft.

      Carson Carels Prince George 23-Jun-08 6-2 194 LD (2026 Eligible, Wiz #10)
      Carels showed very well on both offense and defense. Physical on defense, had several hits and was able to transition easily to the offense. Knows when to join the rush and had several chances in front of the net. Effective on penalty kill and has a low hard shot that gets through on the power play. Has also grown some last year. Shows all the traits that have him in the top half of the first round for 2026.

      Arseni Anisimov Prince George 25-Nov-07 5-11 175 LD (2026 Eligible)
      Anisimov had 58-2-10-12 at PG last year. He plays a competent all-around game but does not have an outstanding attribute like size or speed. Is always in the right plce and handles well on the power play. Picked up two assists on the night. Good stick handling in the offensive zone, and plays a good position game on defense. Drew a penalty when he was on the penalty kill. Will need to score some to get consideration for a mid-to-late 2026 pick.

      Will McLaughlin Portland 10-Mar-08 6-2 175 LD (2026 Eligible, Wiz #160)
      This is a defender that has good positioning and stick use in the defensive zone. Is in the right place and contests well in front of the net. Drew a penalty and has a good shot that he can get through to the goal. Good size and uses it well; was 47-3-16-29 in the AJHL last year, and had 3 assists for Canada at the Hlinka-Gretzky tournament. Looks like a mid-round pick for 2026, could move up with some more scoring.

      Jordan Duguay Portland 16-Feb-08 5-11 175 LW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #203)
      Duguay is not large but plays a physical game. Took a boarding penalty early, was engaged along the boards. Plays right wing on the power play. Will need to show some scoring to get draft consideration. Scored 68-11-21-32 for Portland last year.

      Ondrej Stebetak Portland 19-Jul-07 6-1 173 G (Undrafted 2025)
      Stebetak went undrafted last year after having an 0.891 save percentage (47-3.72-0.891 for Portland). Was under fire early and often as Prince George dominated play for most of the game. Gave up 6 goals, two early ones were screened, two were very late in the game. Will need improvement to be considered for the 2026 draft.

    • #31550

      RIP Eddie Giacomin. One of the great goalies of my youth.

      I still remember around 1970 in the playoffs Bobby Hull knocked him over with a slap shot from just inside center ice with nothing between Hull and the net.

    • #31563

      rpete, the club wants to take a step, to get the offense going, to create chances for their young talent. You can’t unlock any of that without some kind of stability in your own end. You can’t be getting hemmed in using 25-30 seconds to get the puck out cuz there is nothing left in the tank for that shift. Or, not being able to steady the structure defensively when the opponent is buzzing and creating chances.

      Gryz will bring some stability to a very very young backend and not clog up the pipeline.

      Normally yes but our young guys are all so even and how good can a guy on a PTO be?

      • #31640
        boilermaker
        Participant

        If you haven’t noticed there has been a spam attack on the main Chicago Blackhawks forum page. There are literally pages and pages full of bogus topics. I mentioned it to Frenchy in the comments section of his blog this morning. Hopefully, he can contact site administration and get things fixed.

        As these spam forum topics are generated, our General Comments forum could get lost down the pages and make it difficult to find. When new comments are posted here it will go back to the top of page 1, but it eventually will fall down the list. Maybe when you visit here you can bookmark this comments page (currently we’re on page 19) to bring it up more quickly the next time, instead of “leafing” through the pages looking for this forum.

    • #31697
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      All i know is in glad KD and the Blackhawks aren’t like Verbeek and ducks owners. This is the 2nd forward who hit RFA contract for that team and the negotiations are not going well at all. Not even practicing with them. Would not mind seeing McTavish in a Blackhawks sweater

      Hope this takes. .. Been waiting to post this and think it’s a great topic for Frenchy to post on. Should KD trade for McTavish? A for real trade where a Rinzel or Levshunov goes the other way.

      Most said yr after yr that KD should draft the BPA, no matter the position. He’s gone off the board with some late 1sts but for the most part he’s taken BPA and as a result his pipeline is full of excellent D prospects. We all also said when the time comes KD can trade from strength. Very good logic and a fine way to build IMO.

      We also know KD ain’t scared. He showed us that in his very first draft and resistance to adding money and term for a FA forward when he was losing a lotta games. IMO he’s gone from phase to phase of the rebuild with laser focus and determination to stick to the plan. No shortcuts and no speeding up the plan has him in a great position being flush with draft premium draft picks, flush with blue chip prospects especially on defense. .. I also think KD has been laying in wait since he took the job and is now like a jack in the box sitting on a coil ready to burst and jump up.

      For a McTavish to become available and then pounce. A kid who I have profiling as some degree of Bennett. A tough gamer who is in every scrum, playing in front of both nets, a player who has the size (220lbs) and demeanor to take every tough minute a season and playoffs have to offer and offer a floor of a 55-60 pt threat (Bennett’s high pts in a season is 51). A player who will impact a game in every zone……. And as a centerman he’s rare, as rare as what a Lev or Rinzel brings.

      Huge swing but an add like this gives you, in no particular order, a heavy/big/tough to play against McTavish and Frondell down the middle as your #1 and #2 centerman. That’s not only elite but it’s what gets clubs deep into the playoffs, consistently. ………. I’d do it but the question is will KD do it? McTavish has to be available and the Hawk’s organIzation has to be looking hard at this. …….. Kid is 22 yrs old, 220 lbs, has played 220 NHL games, put up 52 pts last yr and is a centerman who was a 3rd overall pick.

      I’d get him as cheaply as I can but would give up a Lev or Rinzel if it took that to add this skilled beast to Frondell down the middle for 10 yrs.

      I agree with a lot of what you say but i wouldn’t give up a Rinzel or Arty, maybe an Allan or Kaiser I’m selfish that way. It’s so hard to get players with the ability and size and position of those 2.

      Id rather take my chances on the plethora of forwards in the system. Just because the Ducks are bad at negotiating in no way we should do them any favors.

    • #31703
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      If you haven’t noticed there has been a spam attack on the main Chicago Blackhawks forum page. There are literally pages and pages full of bogus topics. I mentioned it to Frenchy in the comments section of his blog this morning. Hopefully, he can contact site administration and get things fixed.

      As these spam forum topics are generated, our General Comments forum could get lost down the pages and make it difficult to find. When new comments are posted here it will go back to the top of page 1, but it eventually will fall down the list. Maybe when you visit here you can bookmark this comments page (currently we’re on page 19) to bring it up more quickly the next time, instead of “leafing” through the pages looking for this forum.

      That’s weird i don’t see what you’re talking about

    • #31709
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Test

    • #31759
      boilermaker
      Participant

      That’s weird i don’t see what you’re talking about

      No? Go here and see if you see of a list of spam forum topics touting airline tickets and schedules.

      Chicago Blackhawks

    • #31796
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      That’s weird i see what you’re saying now, i usually just go here and whatever Frenchy writes about the Blackhawks

    • #31972
      Assman22
      Participant

      AssMan, are you comfortable with just Murphy as your only vet on defense and the rest young or straight up rookies with all having less than 100-150 NHL games with no safety net on the roster or even at RKF? … I think it’s just crazy for a club looking to be more competitive, without some crazy anchor contract vet from outside vesthe system, and a young stud goalie taking the reigns as an NHL starter for the first time in his NHL career.

      I love the idea of having a solid vet who can still play on 2 of the 3 D pairings. It gives Blashil some structure every system needs and still leaves 2-3 spots open for whichever kid/prospect plays best and earns a spot. The rest go to RKF and develops.[/quote]
      Yes. Also, I don’t consider Vlasic young/rookie anymore. He’s played 179 NHL games with mostly top line mins so he’s over the hump in my opinion. I like having Grizz as the 7th d-man and feel like we’re stuck with Crevier on a 1-way contract taking up a valuable roster spot in a growth year for no reason. Trade him to a team in cap hell or release him. Edmonton would make a lot of sense. Keep checking in with Anaheim and McTavish in case a deal could be worked out.

    • #31993
      Assman22
      Participant

      Besides when i think about Arty and KK playing together, it’s actually the responsibility of one of the forwards to recognize that the defenseman activated and cover for them.

      Not exactly. One of them has to stay back and both their games thrive when they’re the one that “activates”. Not only do they not make sense even one iota as a pairing but they’d also dwarf each other’s development. Arty might be best served learning at the NHL level and have vets whip him into shape while KK needs to stay in Rockford and develop this season before he turns into Adam Boqvist 2.0

    • #32007
      Assman22
      Participant

      I agree with a lot of what you say but i wouldn’t give up a Rinzel or Arty, maybe an Allan or Kaiser I’m selfish that way. It’s so hard to get players with the ability and size and position of those 2.

      Id rather take my chances on the plethora of forwards in the system. Just because the Ducks are bad at negotiating in no way we should do them any favors.[/quote]

      Offer Crevier and a draft pick for McTavish’s rights then keep Grizz for 7th d-man. The plethora of forwards you speak of are still mostly in juniors/college. McTavish is already a solid NHLer paying for a boner of a franchise. Also brings some sandpaper that this 23-man roster lacks especially the forwards group.

    • #32107
      Angotti
      Participant

      I agree with a lot of what you say but i wouldn’t give up a Rinzel or Arty, maybe an Allan or Kaiser I’m selfish that way. It’s so hard to get players with the ability and size and position of those 2.

      Id rather take my chances on the plethora of forwards in the system. Just because the Ducks are bad at negotiating in no way we should do them any favors.

      Offer Crevier and a draft pick for McTavish’s rights then keep Grizz for 7th d-man. The plethora of forwards you speak of are still mostly in juniors/college. McTavish is already a solid NHLer paying for a boner of a franchise. Also brings some sandpaper that this 23-man roster lacks especially the forwards group.[/quote]

      I would not offer Artie or Rinzel, and Crevier and a pick won’t do it. It’s going to take a combination of Reichel, Allan, Kaiser, KK, and a high pick, along with Dickinson with 50% retained, and Verbeek could still say no.

    • #32178
      Angotti
      Participant

    • #32341
      Assman22
      Participant

      [/quote]I would not offer Artie or Rinzel, and Crevier and a pick won’t do it. It’s going to take a combination of Reichel, Allan, Kaiser, KK, and a high pick, along with Dickinson with 50% retained, and Verbeek could still say no.[/quote]
      I think Verbeek may still have nightmares after re-signing former 1st round pick Zegras two years ago after back-to-back solid 60+ pt seasons then regressed exponentially. McTavish is also a 1st round pick and was from the previous regime. CapWages has his expected AAV to be around $6.7 million. Verbeek had re-signed Zegras in 2023-24 season for $5.7 million.
      They just traded Zegras for a 4th liner and two draft picks (2nd and 4th). Ducks look solid with their forwards but their defense is sus. Two vets (one being dumbass Gudas) and 5 rookies and we all know how Q feels about young inexperienced d-men. Murph only played for Q for 1+ season but could see if he’s interested in reuniting as part of a deal. Sure Verbeek would re-sign him as well with all that cap space and Q’s fascination for vet d-men. Murph’s done in Chicago by the TDL regardless so keep Grizz as the vet d-man in this scenario. Hell, give hem Murph and Crevier.

    • #32342
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      If you haven’t noticed there has been a spam attack on the main Chicago Blackhawks forum page. There are literally pages and pages full of bogus topics. I mentioned it to Frenchy in the comments section of his blog this morning. Hopefully, he can contact site administration and get things fixed.

      As these spam forum topics are generated, our General Comments forum could get lost down the pages and make it difficult to find. When new comments are posted here it will go back to the top of page 1, but it eventually will fall down the list. Maybe when you visit here you can bookmark this comments page (currently we’re on page 19) to bring it up more quickly the next time, instead of “leafing” through the pages looking for this forum.

      nice job giving Frenchy a heads up…….. And you’re right that spam bot is AI and has the ability to mess things up and as you say, in a big way.. For our USHL message board I was told unless I get good software that is constantly updated we’d be vulnerable. So I did and coughed the 400 bucks. Then you need a tech guy to come in and fix things a few times a yr and do the updates. Cost me 100 bucks every time this dude visited and he felt sorry for me and worked dirt cheap.

      The place is still wonky. Sometimes the spell check works sometimes not. Same with posts, there are times it doesn’t take and that sucks out loud. That means there are bugs in the software and that means calling the tech guy/webmaster and dig into your wallet. … If not the funk gets worse.

      Point is it takes time and money to run a place. I hope the managers of this site know this cuz obviously thru ignorance or malfeasance this joint is under attack. Guys like Meltzer have to know this…… I like the joint but I’m here for Frenchy. I came up spades clicking this link you posted cuz a blogger who scouted the USHL and juniors and cut up film is a dream for me to read. I think Frenchy is gonna end up behind a paywall somewhere so I’m gonna enjoy him while I can.

      Lotta the good bloggers from HB are here. This place has a lotta potential.

      • #32748
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks, my friend. I reported it to Bill early this morning around 4 a.m. Thanks for all your concern. Just give us a little time to get the site running properly. Sometimes we run into bugs, but we do our best to fix them as soon as we’re aware. Don’t hesitate to reach out to me in the forum or under my articles. We truly appreciate all of you being here and sharing the love of the game. – Frenchy

    • #32344
      Metalhead
      Participant

      According to Friedman yesterday, Verbeek is not even listening to the calls coming in for McTavish.
      If he ever does listen to calls, it’s gonna take a lot more than a basketful of leftover “stuff” that any fan of
      the team making the offer would be willing to get rid of.

      It’s gonna require giving up something that Hawks fans (or fans of any other interested team) do not want to lose.

    • #32576

      According to Friedman yesterday, Verbeek is not even listening to the calls coming in for McTavish.
      If he ever does listen to calls, it’s gonna take a lot more than a basketful of leftover “stuff” that any fan of
      the team making the offer would be willing to get rid of.

      It’s gonna require giving up something that Hawks fans (or fans of any other interested team) do not want to lose.

      Killjoy.

    • #32588
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides when i think about Arty and KK playing together, it’s actually the responsibility of one of the forwards to recognize that the defenseman activated and cover for them.

      Not exactly. One of them has to stay back and both their games thrive when they’re the one that “activates”. Not only do they not make sense even one iota as a pairing but they’d also dwarf each other’s development. Arty might be best served learning at the NHL level and have vets whip him into shape while KK needs to stay in Rockford and develop this season before he turns into Adam Boqvist 2.0

      Just gotta say why would either one activate if one they didn’t have the puck or 2 the puck was not on their side of the ice? Then we have much bigger issues with those 2.

    • #32735
      Assman22
      Participant

      According to Friedman yesterday, Verbeek is not even listening to the calls coming in for McTavish.
      If he ever does listen to calls, it’s gonna take a lot more than a basketful of leftover “stuff” that any fan of
      the team making the offer would be willing to get rid of.

      It’s gonna require giving up something that Hawks fans (or fans of any other interested team) do not want to lose.

      Good, they should keep him but sign him already and get him in camp. They have some nice younger pieces like Carlsson, McTavish, Gauthier, Sennecke, and McQueen (if he gets healthy). Solberg the d-man they took in the 1st round this year will be solid in a few years. Problem right now is they have a big gap between the top 6 geezers mostly in their mid 30’s and the aforementioned young pieces being in early 20’s mostly. Will likely use all that cap space next summer and lots of big name UFA’s going to new teams with the big increase in the cap.

    • #32740
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I agree with a lot of what you say but i wouldn’t give up a Rinzel or Arty, maybe an Allan or Kaiser I’m selfish that way. It’s so hard to get players with the ability and size and position of those 2.

      Id rather take my chances on the plethora of forwards in the system. Just because the Ducks are bad at negotiating in no way we should do them any favors.

      Offer Crevier and a draft pick for McTavish’s rights then keep Grizz for 7th d-man. The plethora of forwards you speak of are still mostly in juniors/college. McTavish is already a solid NHLer paying for a boner of a franchise. Also brings some sandpaper that this 23-man roster lacks especially the forwards group.

      [/quote]

      Hey Dots, hope all is well in the Dots household. I know you foster kids so your place is always jumpin and no two days are the same. Hope all is well, Dots.

      You know what my problem is if indeed the Hawks went after McTavish? The Hawks have pretty much every possible asset in the system to acquire a McTavish and I don’t think anything less than a Rinzel or Artie would do it. If that’s the case my problem is which one, The Cossack or Rinzel? Yea, Rinzel is profiling as everything KD hoped he’d he’d be. A RS Dman, a strong skater, 1st pairing guy who might be a premium #1 PP guy with great size and he seems to get it between the ears.

      And Artie still has a lotta wild horse that needs to be coached out of him but I believe the majority of scouts would say today that Artie has the higher ceiling between the two. The kids physical traits say he can be a man beast. The kinda player there are few answers for, if any. But, and I always felt this way back to the USHL it’s fair to question his IQ to an extent. His reads seem good, and will get better with NHL ice time, but he hasn’t shown he could be elite on that account.

      I don’t wanna lose either player but a chance to have McT and Frondell as my #1 and #2 centermen for a decade is rare. KD is from the school of building from the back up and be strong down the middle and to target big Dmen and centermen. I thought despite appearing to favor speed/skill KD favors big centerman in a big way. He drafts Misiak, Boisvert, Spellacy, Frondell and gives a big sound centerman in Dickinson term… I believe the Hawks think Desnoyers and Hagens have higher offensive upside than Frondell but KD wanted that big solid and sound 2 may centerman with great size. He passed on two pretty damn good centerman with skill and offensive upside for the money in the bank blood and guts 55 pt centerman.

      We all know he ain’t scared to do something big by that first draft, especially moving Dcat, and we know he likes big blood and guts centerman, and we know he has the assets to acquire most any player in the Bigs, and we know that Verbeek has a problem of some degree with McTavish. I personally believe there ain’t a day that goes by that KD isn’t looking for an opportunity to acquire a McTavish type and the timing of the rebuild is right to add young elite talent, especially centerman.

      I’d pull the trigger but am damn glad I don’t have to be the one to say whether Rinzel of Artie is the one to dangle. …… GMing ain’t easy and I guess it ain’t supposed to be… You gonna give the phenom help? Pull the trigger.

    • #32743
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Actually Rico the wife and I are finally empty nesters so life is good. Done a lot of traveling since being free for almost 2 years now.

      I’m going to a lot more games this year to watch the kiddies play. Figure i need something to do on the weekends.

      You’re right about gming not being easy, i personally hope that they don’t move either dman, i can see a future where those 2 are big part of us winning in the near future.

    • #32746
      Angotti
      Participant

      No way I’m giving up Artie or Rinzel for McTavish. Those two have a ceiling of top pairing defensemen and that is more valuable than a second/third line center on a good team, which is what McTavish is. Also, like I mentioned earlier, Crevier and a pick will not get it done. I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, but I wouldn’t give up any core pieces in the deal.

    • #32749
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Actually Rico the wife and I are finally empty nesters so life is good. Done a lot of traveling since being free for almost 2 years now.

      I’m going to a lot more games this year to watch the kiddies play. Figure i need something to do on the weekends.

      You’re right about gming not being easy, i personally hope that they don’t move either dman, i can see a future where those 2 are big part of us winning in the near future.

      Oh wow, it’s gotta be a shock for you and your wife. Bet half the time you don’t know what to do with yourself. You guys are living the dream!! Well deserved………..

      Maybe KD is waiting for a Kaprisov to be a FA and give him 20 mil per with term. We all talk about adding a Hossa and when that is the time right. McTavish checks a lotta the same boxes as Hossa but he’s 22 AND a centerman. ……. KD is so laser focused he may seem conservative but his first draft day says otherwise. We’ll see but there has to be a time for him to do something really big.

    • #32750
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Oh wow, it’s gotta be a shock for you and your wife, Dots. Bet half the time you don’t know what to do with yourself. You guys are living the dream!! Well deserved………..

      Maybe KD is waiting for a Kaprisov to be a FA and give him 20 mil per with term. We all talk about adding a Hossa and when that is the time right. McTavish checks a lotta the same boxes as Hossa but he’s 22 AND a centerman. ……. KD is so laser focused he may seem conservative but his first draft day says otherwise. We’ll see but there has to be a time for him to do something really big.

    • #32752
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Shock to the system, hahaha

      It’s a relief, don’t get me wrong i care for all of them but it’s about damn time i don’t have to care and provide for someone else

    • #32773
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Killjoy.

      ???? guilty as charged

    • #32778
      Metalhead
      Participant

      They have some nice younger pieces like Carlsson, McTavish, Gauthier, Sennecke, and McQueen (if he gets healthy).

      That is one of the reasons Friedman gave to explain Verbeek’s hard negotiating stance.
      Said if he just gives up and bends over for McTavish, all those other young guys are gonna be even tougher.

    • #32795
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I wouldn’t give up Rinzel or Lev for McTavish. He’s a nice to have, but both of these rhd are worth a lot more on the market.

      My Minny friends are in full panic mode. If Kiprisov isn’t signed by season start, he’s not signing, regardless of what the wild talking heads say. Imagine if there were questions about Bedard signing and Danny pipes up that things are fine. I would crap myself.

    • #32800
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      It is time to let our imaginations run wild! Bedard-McTavish-Kaprisov on the first line. Get er done KFC!

    • #35306
      Assman22
      Participant

      It is time to let our imaginations run wild! Bedard-McTavish-Kaprisov on the first line. Get er done KFC!

      Burakovsky/Bedard/Kaprisov – FIFO

      Necas/Nazar/Moore – 2nd line?

    • #36250
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Greg Boysen, hockey writer formerly of Chicago Hockey Now, has a new podcast out The Second Balcony. Here’s a link. It focuses on the up and coming young D and the early days of camp.

    • #36388
      totem
      Participant

      September 20, 2025 – Seattle 6, Tri-City 3 – notes

      Matej Pekar Seattle Thunderbirds 8-Sep-07 5-10 165 LHRW (Undrafted 2025)
      Pekar (pronounced like pay-kash) came over to Seattle last year and had 64-17-15-32; this year he has added a few pounds and in this game was aggressive in pushing the play and willing to go into the corners. He has excellent speed and stick handling, and is very agile in carrying the puck around defenders and into the attack zone. Had four assists on the night, a couple early due to a bad start for the Tri-City goalie. Was very energetic all game, and was instrumental in Seattle keeping up the pressure. Had a nice steal that turned into a shot, was very active in 4 on 4 play. Size will continue to be a concern as he moves to higher levels, but speed, agility, and skill could earn him a 2026 draft slot after being passed over last year. 3rd star of the game.

      Marek Sklenicka Seattle Thunderbirds 27-Aug-08 6-4 170 G (2026 Eligible)
      Sklenicka is new to Seattle as he was selected in the international draft this summer. Earned the opening night start over more experienced goalies. Sklenicka is tall and remains upright until the puck comes down low. Somewhat rangy but is agile when going between up and down positions. He had a number of good saves (including a couple of breakaways), especially in the second period as Tri-City was pressing. First goal glove side over left shoulder. Another goal came on a low shot from Vanecek that leaked through; these are tough for a tall goalie. Third goal he was crashed into by an attacker but no penalty was called and goal was allowed. 2026 eligible but not currently ranked. He has a good base of size and skill to build on, and could merit draft consideration if he improves his focus and plays well. Was 15-2.18-0.928 in Czechia U20 last year.

      Cameron Kuzma Seattle Thunderbirds 17-Jul-08 6-3 198 LC (2026 Eligible)
      Kuzma comes to Seattle from Regina where he had 46-4-14-18 last year. He is a sizable center and is very aggressive around the net and in the corners of the forecheck. Assisted with Pekar on the first two Seattle goals. Did not score the rest of the game but had constant pressure in the offensive zone all night. Aggressive on the power play. Won 11 of 17 faceoffs and was the game’s 2nd star.

      Gavin Garland Tri-City Americans 8-Feb-06 5-9 183 RW (Undrafted 2024, 2025)
      Garland is small but plays bigger, has good speed and can get pucks to the net. Had 4 shots on the night. Has useful skills but will have to show scoring ability to get into higher leagues as he has been passed over in the last two drafts. Had 54-21-21-42 in Tri-City last year.

      Cruz Pavao Tri-City Americans 24-Aug-08 5-11 194 RW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #154)
      Pavao is not tall but is thick and this does not slow him down; he has the speed and puck handling skills to trigger offensive rushes. Early in the game he beat the defenseman on a rush and drew a penalty. Later had a fast entry with impressive puck control. Had 2 assists in the game. Looks as if he will score some this year, and could move to the mid rounds in the 2026 draft. Had 63-10-15-25 in Tri-City last year.

      Jakub Vanecek Tri-City Americans 25-Feb-08 6-2 185 LD (2026 Eligible, Wiz #62)
      Another big defenseman coming over this year from Czechia. Excellent agility and puck control for a big defender. Had a low hard shot for a goal and showed good movement in all zones. Early on had a bit of an awkward posession in the d-zone that ended in a Seattle goal. Improved on defense quickly as the game went on, and drew a penalty (but evened it out taking an embellishment call). Should improve quickly while adjusting to North America. Has all the traits to be an early pick in the 2026 draft. Was 31-0-4-4 in Czechia U20 last year, 7-1-3-4 in international play this year.

      Others
      1st star of the game was Simon Lovsin of Seattle who had 2 goais and an assist. He was passed over in the 2025 draft after having 35 points in 64 games. Needs to score more and is off to a good start.

      C Brock England, a 2027 eligible, had 2 late goals for Seattle also.

      LD Aiden Bouchard, also a 2027 eligible (not related to Evan Bouchard) was a high pick for Tri-City (WHL #3 overall) and played in the game but did not score.

      Notes log at: https://hockeystew25.blogspot.com/

    • #36391
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I really didn’t expect many folks that were for moving Artie or Rinzel for McTavish. That’s a big ask from a fan base… Rinzel especially is showing he just might be a real difference making, minute eating, big, mobile RS Dman who might be a legit #1 PP guy. And Artie shows flashes of elite traits. His rise as far as going from one level to the next in 3 straight yrs is meteoric. ….. And remember Rinzel was drafted in 2022 and Artie was drafted in 2024. Artie is young for his draft yr, Rinzel is 18 months older than him… IMO Artie is farther away from his ceiling than Rinzel is. Long long way to go but Rinzel looks like the goods. Both Dmen check loads of boxes.

      Artie jumped from level to level every yr. Go go go. Highest level possible every time. In a hurry…….. Now, I watched Rinzel play at WTL on an Olympic sheet his draft yr. Probably 10-15 times, not just for him but IMO Waterloo has the best arena, atmosphere, game production and PBP in all of the lil ole USHL. Love that joint. Kid really was raw and could skate it up but man he gave up a lotta odd mans against taking chances at the attack blueline and his defensive in zone play was scary. Lost, didn’t move his feet, low work rate, didn’t us his size. My favorite thing about Rinzel, outa his whole career, was his decision to stay at WTL of the USHL the yr after he was drafted. He had a spot at U of MN waiting but he stayed in the USHL

      That tells me so much about a jr player/kid. Most want to speed up the process and move up but Rinzel knew he needed much more work before college hockey and he stayed and got that work with an old cornerstone organIzation that that has developed for 30-40 yrs. Tells me a kid gets it whether he’s a 3rd overall or 4th rounder. Some kids really get, and are truly bought into, a process and one way to see that as a fan is when they themselves understand they’re not sound and ready for the next level… I think the perception is, and I agree, that NCAA kids bend that way more than jrs players.

      Anyway, moving an Artie or Rinzel for a difference making top 6 centerman is the cost of doing business IMO. Been chirping about Kaiser since his 10 games in the USHL but him, a 1st rounder and a couple B level prospects ain’t gonna get a McTavish. It’s gonna take probable elite talent going the other way…… IMO everything is lined up for such a move. Loads of draft capital, elite talent ready for the Bigs, ability to trade from a surplus (defense) to add an asset wherever they’re short (elite forward prospects), a 21-22-23 yr old fits the timeline and the elephant in the room of getting Bedard elite talent to play with as he tries to develop some sense of a 200 ft NHL game and find a rythm.

      If not now, when?

    • #36392
      Angotti
      Participant

      Rico,
      I respect your hockey knowledge and your opinion, however I do not agree with moving a RD with top pair probability for a middle six center. Both Artie and Rinzel have that type of talent, and while I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, I’m not willing to pay that price. Bedard, Nazar, Frondell, Vlasic, and the two aforementioned Dmen are part of the future core, I’d have to be blown away to trade any of those six and I would add Knight to this list as well. Who’s to say Frondell won’t turn into a McTavish, he has the same type of skill set and is actually a better skater.

    • #36405
      wizardofi
      Participant

      The big thing is building from the back end. Looks like we have our goaltending, and our top 6 defensemen look like they could be a solid defense of the future. Trading a RHD for a #2 centerman now, a number 3 when Frondell comes over, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Trading a RHD like Arty or Rinzel should get us a bonified #1 centerman plus. Trading Jones with his bulky contract for a young #1 goalie and a 1st round pick shows what RHD are worth, even when trading from a point of serious weakness.

    • #36690
      Assman22
      Participant

      Trading a RHD like Arty or Rinzel should get us a bonified #1 centerman plus.

      This doesn’t make sense. There’s just as many #1 RD in the league as there are #1 centers. Which is valued more depends on each team’s situation. Hawks have 8-9 NHL d-men but very few blue chip forwards let alone #1 centers. You trade from a position of excess strength to fill the voids of weakness.
      Hawks are built through several drafts. Just like Theo did with the Cubs when he selected all dominant bats with his high picks for several years (Bryant, Schwarber, etc), Hawks shored up the blueline and went heavy with high floor speedy forwards. Theo filled the pitching void in free agency just as Kyle will next summer with the UFA forwards. Sharks did the opposite and will look to fill all their blueline deficiencies with free agency as well.

    • #36703
      Angotti
      Participant

      Assman22
      Participant

      This doesn’t make sense. There’s just as many #1 RD in the league as there are #1 centers. Which is valued more depends on each team’s situation. Hawks have 8-9 NHL d-men but very few blue chip forwards let alone #1 centers. You trade from a position of excess strength to fill the voids of weakness.
      Hawks are built through several drafts. Just like Theo did with the Cubs when he selected all dominant bats with his high picks for several years (Bryant, Schwarber, etc), Hawks shored up the blueline and went heavy with high floor speedy forwards. Theo filled the pitching void in free agency just as Kyle will next summer with the UFA forwards. Sharks did the opposite and will look to fill all their blueline deficiencies with free agency as well.
      ————
      There are more legitimate #1 centers in the league than legitimate #1 RD’s, so I’m going to respectfully disagree. Look at the Leafs, they have Matthews as a #1 center, who’s their #1 RD? Let me say this, they are both very important positions on a hockey team, however as much as I like McTavish, he’s not a #1 center. The Hawks are in an envious position to have possibly two legitimate #1 RD’s, I would run with them for the next ten years.

    • #36705
      Assman22
      Participant

      Assman22
      There are more legitimate #1 centers in the league than legitimate #1 RD’s, so I’m going to respectfully disagree. Look at the Leafs, they have Matthews as a #1 center, who’s their #1 RD? Let me say this, they are both very important positions on a hockey team, however as much as I like McTavish, he’s not a #1 center. The Hawks are in an envious position to have possibly two legitimate #1 RD’s, I would run with them for the next ten years.

      Riddle me this, Batman…would the Queafs trade Matthews for a #1 RD?

      • #36718
        Angotti
        Participant

        Not very likely Robin, and neither would I trade McDavid or McKinnon for a RD, however the discussion was related to McTavish, not superstar centers.

      • #36919
        boilermaker
        Participant

        BTW, Kantserov with a goal in Magnitogorsk’s 5-4 win. He has 3G and 3A in their last five games after being held scoreless in the first two.

        It would be nice if he signs here next year. Maybe he’ll play a while at Rockford to get used to the smaller sheet of ice and become a contributor later next season, or more likely the 27-28 season. By that time, assuming Frondell, Moore, Greene, Lardis, Vanacker, and Boisvert are on the team or close to making it, and along with Bedard and Nazar, the top nine should be pretty well established.

    • #36739
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Rico,
      I respect your hockey knowledge and your opinion, however I do not agree with moving a RD with top pair probability for a middle six center. Both Artie and Rinzel have that type of talent, and while I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, I’m not willing to pay that price. Bedard, Nazar, Frondell, Vlasic, and the two aforementioned Dmen are part of the future core, I’d have to be blown away to trade any of those six and I would add Knight to this list as well. Who’s to say Frondell won’t turn into a McTavish, he has the same type of skill set and is actually a better skater.

      Hey, Lou…….. i think you under value McTavish and by a good bit. He’s not a middle 6 C, look at the numbers, his floor is 2C IMO. Lou, he was drafted in 2021 and played his 18/19 yr old draft +1 season in the OHL and 9 games with the Ducks then his 19-20-21 yr old seasons with the Ducks. In those 3 yrs he put up 43 in 80 as a 19 yr old rookie, 42 in 64 and last yr and 52 in 76 as a 21 yr old!! At 220 lbs. A centerman in the Bigs. That sound like a middle 6er?.

      And as great as Rinzel looks and as great Lev’s traits are they have 27 NHL games between them while McTavish has 229 NHL games playing center as a 220lb 19-20-21 yr old who’s scored at a .61 clip. …. Anything we attribute to Lev and Rinzel today is pure projection but with McTavish we have a 230 NHL game sample size.

      And before I forget, I meant to post this in every McTavish post, how do you see Bennett? A middle 6er? What would you give for a blood and guts mother humpin bastard like Bennett for all sorts of reasons and boxes checked? …… Remember now, his high pts for a season is 51!!!

      I’m not beating the table for McT but I kinda am. Or at least I’m all for swapping out elite D prospect (system strength, for elite forward prospect (system weakness but less so with the Frondell add) and it just so happenes McTavish fits every box of what I’d love em to add. ……….. I guess for another blog is resource allocation? In 5 yrs if Rinzel and Artie reach their ceilings will it cost 40 mil per to pay em? And if so is that proper asset allocation?

    • #36905
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Assman22
      There are more legitimate #1 centers in the league than legitimate #1 RD’s, so I’m going to respectfully disagree. Look at the Leafs, they have Matthews as a #1 center, who’s their #1 RD? Let me say this, they are both very important positions on a hockey team, however as much as I like McTavish, he’s not a #1 center. The Hawks are in an envious position to have possibly two legitimate #1 RD’s, I would run with them for the next ten years.

      Riddle me this, Batman…would the Queafs trade Matthews for a #1 RD?

      Not after losing Marner to Free agency. The Leafs are trapped in what to do next, the window is beginning to close for that as quickly as it opened

      I wouldn’t of traded either RDman for Marner either and have to pay him all that money

    • #36906
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I bet the Leafs regret trading their 1st round draft pick to us to get Mrazek off the books.

      That’s why i appreciate KDs approach of not rushing the rebuild like the Leafs did.

    • #36908
      Angotti
      Participant

      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey, Lou…….. i think you under value McTavish and by a good bit. He’s not a middle 6 C, look at the numbers, his floor is 2C IMO. Lou, he was drafted in 2021 and played his 18/19 yr old draft +1 season in the OHL and 9 games with the Ducks then his 19-20-21 yr old seasons with the Ducks. In those 3 yrs he put up 43 in 80 as a 19 yr old rookie, 42 in 64 and last yr and 52 in 76 as a 21 yr old!! At 220 lbs. A centerman in the Bigs. That sound like a middle 6er?.

      And as great as Rinzel looks and as great Lev’s traits are they have 27 NHL games between them while McTavish has 229 NHL games playing center as a 220lb 19-20-21 yr old who’s scored at a .61 clip. …. Anything we attribute to Lev and Rinzel today is pure projection but with McTavish we have a 230 NHL game sample size.

      And before I forget, I meant to post this in every McTavish post, how do you see Bennett? A middle 6er? What would you give for a blood and guts mother humpin bastard like Bennett for all sorts of reasons and boxes checked? …… Remember now, his high pts for a season is 51!!!

      I’m not beating the table for McT but I kinda am. Or at least I’m all for swapping out elite D prospect (system strength, for elite forward prospect (system weakness but less so with the Frondell add) and it just so happenes McTavish fits every box of what I’d love em to add. ……….. I guess for another blog is resource allocation? In 5 yrs if Rinzel and Artie reach their ceilings will it cost 40 mil per to pay em? And if so is that proper asset allocation?
      ——-
      I hear you Rico, but let’s say that Bedard and Frondell hit their ceiling(could very well happen), that would make McTavish a 3C at $7-8M AAV, I don’t think that is good asset management either. Guys like Bennett and McTavish are valuable to cup contending teams, no doubt, but let’s see how these kids develop before they give up too early on them, especially the seven I mentioned earlier.

    • #36911
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m curious to see what becomes of Moore, probably just training camp fodder but they are talking about how his shot looks better already after working on it over the summer.

      Moore, Dach, Reichel or Mikh 3rd line may actually be a difficult line to play against and produce some points and take pressure off of the top 2 lines.

    • #36912

      Assman22
      There are more legitimate #1 centers in the league than legitimate #1 RD’s, so I’m going to respectfully disagree. Look at the Leafs, they have Matthews as a #1 center, who’s their #1 RD? Let me say this, they are both very important positions on a hockey team, however as much as I like McTavish, he’s not a #1 center. The Hawks are in an envious position to have possibly two legitimate #1 RD’s, I would run with them for the next ten years.

      Riddle me this, Batman…would the Queafs trade Matthews for a #1 RD?

      Apples and oranges neither team is making a trade like that. Unless you’re trading Phil Esposito for Gilles Marrotte.

    • #36915

      Rico,
      I respect your hockey knowledge and your opinion, however I do not agree with moving a RD with top pair probability for a middle six center. Both Artie and Rinzel have that type of talent, and while I’d love for the Hawks to acquire McTavish, I’m not willing to pay that price. Bedard, Nazar, Frondell, Vlasic, and the two aforementioned Dmen are part of the future core, I’d have to be blown away to trade any of those six and I would add Knight to this list as well. Who’s to say Frondell won’t turn into a McTavish, he has the same type of skill set and is actually a better skater.

      Hey, Lou…….. i think you under value McTavish and by a good bit. He’s not a middle 6 C, look at the numbers, his floor is 2C IMO. Lou, he was drafted in 2021 and played his 18/19 yr old draft +1 season in the OHL and 9 games with the Ducks then his 19-20-21 yr old seasons with the Ducks. In those 3 yrs he put up 43 in 80 as a 19 yr old rookie, 42 in 64 and last yr and 52 in 76 as a 21 yr old!! At 220 lbs. A centerman in the Bigs. That sound like a middle 6er?.

      And as great as Rinzel looks and as great Lev’s traits are they have 27 NHL games between them while McTavish has 229 NHL games playing center as a 220lb 19-20-21 yr old who’s scored at a .61 clip. …. Anything we attribute to Lev and Rinzel today is pure projection but with McTavish we have a 230 NHL game sample size.

      And before I forget, I meant to post this in every McTavish post, how do you see Bennett? A middle 6er? What would you give for a blood and guts mother humpin bastard like Bennett for all sorts of reasons and boxes checked? …… Remember now, his high pts for a season is 51!!!

      I’m not beating the table for McT but I kinda am. Or at least I’m all for swapping out elite D prospect (system strength, for elite forward prospect (system weakness but less so with the Frondell add) and it just so happenes McTavish fits every box of what I’d love em to add. ……….. I guess for another blog is resource allocation? In 5 yrs if Rinzel and Artie reach their ceilings will it cost 40 mil per to pay em? And if so is that proper asset allocation?

      Hoping Vanacker becomes our Bennet but don’t sell Moore short.

    • #36916

      I bet the Leafs regret trading their 1st round draft pick to us to get Mrazek off the books.

      That’s why i appreciate KDs approach of not rushing the rebuild like the Leafs did.

      Not only regret but Mrazek would have been their best goalie.

    • #36917

      I’m curious to see what becomes of Moore, probably just training camp fodder but they are talking about how his shot looks better already after working on it over the summer.

      Moore, Dach, Reichel or Mikh 3rd line may actually be a difficult line to play against and produce some points and take pressure off of the top 2 lines.

      I’ve always believed ice your best players. Not a special defensive line and let the other team match up with you.

    • #36922
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      BTW, Kantserov with a goal in Magnitogorsk’s 5-4 win. He has 3G and 3A in their last five games after being held scoreless in the first two.

      It would be nice if he signs here next year. Maybe he’ll play a while at Rockford to get used to the smaller sheet of ice and become a contributor later next season, or more likely the 27-28 season. By that time, assuming Frondell, Moore, Greene, Lardis, Vanacker, and Boisvert are on the team or close to making it, and along with Bedard and Nazar, the top nine should be pretty well established.

      Looks like we are going to run into the same problem that we are going to have with our dmen, not enough roster spots for all of them?

      Depth and more depth and more depth, love it, and that’s why i love the salary cap going up boiler. Everyone gets caught up in lines and centers and so on, all i want is my 19 players to be better than their 19 players and that’s what the Blackhawks are building

    • #36931
      boilermaker
      Participant

      BTW, Kantserov with a goal in Magnitogorsk’s 5-4 win. He has 3G and 3A in their last five games after being held scoreless in the first two.

      It would be nice if he signs here next year. Maybe he’ll play a while at Rockford to get used to the smaller sheet of ice and become a contributor later next season, or more likely the 27-28 season. By that time, assuming Frondell, Moore, Greene, Lardis, Vanacker, and Boisvert are on the team or close to making it, and along with Bedard and Nazar, the top nine should be pretty well established.

      Looks like we are going to run into the same problem that we are going to have with our dmen, not enough roster spots for all of them?

      Depth and more depth and more depth, love it, and that’s why i love the salary cap going up boiler. Everyone gets caught up in lines and centers and so on, all i want is my 19 players to be better than their 19 players and that’s what the Blackhawks are building

      I think we both know that all of the above likely will not make it. But there’ll be some vets sprinkled in anyway. Hopefully Donato lives up to his contract the next few years. I can see Mikheyev being extended for a couple of years if he does well this season. I’m not even including the likely high 2026 pick.

      Yeah, lots of depth, good competitive atmosphere, and likely some trade candidates to fill a hole or two in coming years.

    • #36969
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Riddle me this, Batman…would the Queafs trade Matthews for a #1 RD?

      Nice cherry pick Assman.

      Would you trade Rinzel or Lev for any of:

      Elis Lindholm, Tage Thompson, Sebastion Aho, Roope Hintz, Dylan Larkin, Nick Suzuki, Ziby, Point, Pettersson, Scheifele, Keller?

    • #36977
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Listening to chgo Blackhawks podcast, sounds like Connor Bedard is indeed noticeably faster and much better on his edges, maybe he plays tomorrow?

      • #37033
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @Betweenthedots: You’re right, Bedard put in a strong offseason. He knew he had to get stronger and faster, and he worked very hard all summer. I expect him to have a really good year, maybe even a breakout season. I don’t think he’ll be in the lineup for the first road game, but I could be wrong — we’ll see soon enough.

        Thanks again for all your comments here in the forum. I wish I could be more active, but with covering multiple teams, plus my channel and podcast, it limits the time I can spend replying. Still, I really appreciate the support. If you have any feedback on how I can improve my articles or our site, please share it with me — it means a lot. Thanks again!

    • #36983
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Nice debate on adding to the center position with elite YOUNG talent (all the guys you listed are too old Wizard) and paying big for it with The Cossack or Rinzel. Guess the brainiacs call this a thought exercise but thinking about if you value a 1C or #1 Dman more. I think my default position was always a 1C is the most valuable but with the modern Dman being big, huge. and can skate it up and pot 75 pts while playing huge minutes vs the opponents best makes it a much more interesting question.

      I ain’t in any hurry to move Rinzel or Artie but I do think, hope, KD expects to do something really big for elite forward talent besides signing a Kaprisov type.

      And Lou, if the club has a productive 2 way Frondell and a McTavish type in 3 yrs you move Bedard to wing. Unleash that kid from centerman responsibilities and tell him use 90% of your oxygen creating scoring chances.

      And Maloney, this damn thing isn’t posting my posts. My hope is the Hawks’ Bennett is Spellacy. Big dude, has true speed and some skill in his hands and his hero is Tom Wilson. Kid has a chance to be useful like few can.

    • #36988
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Listening to chgo Blackhawks podcast, sounds like Connor Bedard is indeed noticeably faster and much better on his edges, maybe he plays tomorrow?

      Dots, Bedard has to add some explosion in his first step. The league has been on to him for awhile. They let him enter and just front him above the circles knowing he can’t beat an NHL Dman so he checks up and deals with back checkers and coughs……….. If he can add some explosion in his feet it’ll allow him to get a step on those Dmen and access the high danger area.

      He’s gotta add some jump.

    • #36993
      boilermaker
      Participant

      maybe he plays tomorrow

      My guess is he plays in front of the home crowd next week. BTW, Tuesday’s game will be broadcast on that Chicago Sports Network at 6 pm Central.

    • #36999
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Listening to chgo Blackhawks podcast, sounds like Connor Bedard is indeed noticeably faster and much better on his edges, maybe he plays tomorrow?

      Dots, Bedard has to add some explosion in his first step. The league has been on to him for awhile. They let him enter and just front him above the circles knowing he can’t beat an NHL Dman so he checks up and deals with back checkers and coughs……….. If he can add some explosion in his feet it’ll allow him to get a step on those Dmen and access the high danger area.

      He’s gotta add some jump.

      According to the guys he did, that’s what I’m trying to tell you Rico. I believe that’s the reason he didn’t join the worlds after the season was over

    • #37021
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Listening to chgo Blackhawks podcast, sounds like Connor Bedard is indeed noticeably faster and much better on his edges, maybe he plays tomorrow?

      Thx for the intel.

    • #37029
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Listening to chgo Blackhawks podcast, sounds like Connor Bedard is indeed noticeably faster and much better on his edges, maybe he plays tomorrow?

      Thx for the intel.

      They also said Reichel looks good and they feel like Moore is being given every chance to win a roster spot. He admits every time he thinks who is that it ends up being Moore

    • #37034
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Other than goaltending, the hardest position to find in the NHL is a right-shot defenseman. Just look around the league — teams are desperate for RHD. The price to acquire guys like Noah Dobson or what it might cost to get Rasmus Andersson in the coming months proves that point.

      That’s why having Artyom Levshunov and Sam Rinzel is so valuable for Chicago. You don’t give that up lightly, especially when your center depth is already in good shape with Connor Bedard and Frank Nazar, plus Oliver Moore as an option down the middle.

      Don’t get me wrong — Mason McTavish is a very solid young player. He’s smart, improving year after year, responsible defensively, and strong in the faceoff circle. But he’s not Sam Bennett. Bennett averages 154 hits per 82 games, compared to just 72 for McTavish. Bennett brings that edge, grit, and forechecking grind that McTavish doesn’t quite match.

      The Blackhawks aren’t ready to make that kind of move yet. It’s a lot harder to find top RHD than it is to find a player like McTavish. The smart play is to keep developing Levshunov and Rinzel, learn their true ceiling, and be patient. In a couple of years — say by 2027–28 — Davidson will know more about his defensive core and can properly evaluate a big trade if the right opportunity comes along.

      For now, it’s about patience. Davidson is finishing Phase I: accumulating assets. Next comes Phase II: building out the roster piece by piece. It’s not a sprint — it’s a marathon. And the Hawks are on the right path.

    • #37115
      Assman22
      Participant

      Riddle me this, Batman…would the Queafs trade Matthews for a #1 RD?

      Nice cherry pick Assman.

      Would you trade Rinzel or Lev for any of:

      Elis Lindholm, Tage Thompson, Sebastion Aho, Roope Hintz, Dylan Larkin, Nick Suzuki, Ziby, Point, Pettersson, Scheifele, Keller?

      Still butthurt about the Hoosiers whooping your Illini lol? Given where Hawks are in the rebuild, no I would not. However, if the Hawks were contending, yes I would trade Arty for Tage Thompson. I’d also happily trade Matthews(#1 center) for Makar(#1 RD).

    • #37121
      Assman22
      Participant

      For those of you comparing McTavish at 22 years old to Benny in his prime, remember when Benny was 22 years old he was putzing around with the Flames putting up 27 pts while McTavish had 52 pts. The epitome of apples to oranges. Again, it’s about a team’s current makeup/needs as to whether #1 center or #1 RD is more needed (not more important).

    • #37133
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Still butthurt about the Hoosiers whooping your Illini

      I have no clue what this is about. Professional Cornhole since it doesn’t sound like hockey?

    • #37168
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      For those of you comparing McTavish at 22 years old to Benny in his prime, remember when Benny was 22 years old he was putzing around with the Flames putting up 27 pts while McTavish had 52 pts. The epitome of apples to oranges. Again, it’s about a team’s current makeup/needs as to whether #1 center or #1 RD is more needed (not more important).

      Teams current needs? For fun let’s say we trade Rinzel or Arty, who in the pipeline even comes close to the ability of either one on the right side defensively? No one so then you immediately create a need for another RDman when you actually have a ton of forwards who one of whom may possibly become that center. No offense but that would be a horrific trade.
      Friendly reminder we won 3 SCs without a bonafide second liner.

    • #37169
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Bonafide second line center

    • #37176
      boilermaker
      Participant
    • #37199
      Angotti
      Participant

      Thanks for posting boiler. Surprised with this lineup with being on the road.

    • #37201
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Other than goaltending, the hardest position to find in the NHL is a right-shot defenseman. Just look around the league — teams are desperate for RHD. The price to acquire guys like Noah Dobson or what it might cost to get Rasmus Andersson in the coming months proves that point.

      That’s why having Artyom Levshunov and Sam Rinzel is so valuable for Chicago. You don’t give that up lightly, especially when your center depth is already in good shape with Connor Bedard and Frank Nazar, plus Oliver Moore as an option down the middle.

      Don’t get me wrong — Mason McTavish is a very solid young player. He’s smart, improving year after year, responsible defensively, and strong in the faceoff circle. But he’s not Sam Bennett. Bennett averages 154 hits per 82 games, compared to just 72 for McTavish. Bennett brings that edge, grit, and forechecking grind that McTavish doesn’t quite match.

      The Blackhawks aren’t ready to make that kind of move yet. It’s a lot harder to find top RHD than it is to find a player like McTavish. The smart play is to keep developing Levshunov and Rinzel, learn their true ceiling, and be patient. In a couple of years — say by 2027–28 — Davidson will know more about his defensive core and can properly evaluate a big trade if the right opportunity comes along.

      For now, it’s about patience. Davidson is finishing Phase I: accumulating assets. Next comes Phase II: building out the roster piece by piece. It’s not a sprint — it’s a marathon. And the Hawks are on the right path.

      Gonna edit it a couple paragraphs but making sure this takes first. Tired of typing thoughts out and it doesn’t take when I use the quote.

      Firstly Frenchy, where is your participation in podcasts? Link us up.

      Really helpful to hear a guy that drew a paycheck from scouting the USHL post thoughts. … Really interesting there is not really a doubt that a 1D is more valuable than a 1C in the NHL. I think I honestly thought it would be 60/40 that those who draw a paycheck from the sport say 1C was more valuable in the NHL, all things being equal. Either way both slots are important and tough to fill.. Guess I’m old school in that I do believe there are 2 kinds of franchises, those who have centers and those looking for them. … But I was 99% sure KD would draft Artie over Demidov cuz it’s the right thing to do and Wizard makes a good point look at what Jones brought back from Florida. I’d caveat that though that many think Jones is a top pairing D and like he showed with FLA that dude has some rare skills that jump out when he’s engaged…… No, you don’t take that lightly when you have it but offering a hopeful RS 1D for a 22 yr old 220 lb centerman blueblood who’s profiling as a difference maker over his 230 NHL games is taking that lightly. In fact, I could see the guy arguing for the Ducks that they indeed are the ones taking a talent like McT lightly when offering him straight up for an unproven Artie or Rinzel and their 27 NHL game sample size between them.

      Bedard, Nazar and maybe even Moore are the centers? … Do you really think a club can win a cup with Bedard as the 1C? I guess sure if you have a Bergeron Toews type as your 2C but I just don’t think it wise to bank on a grown man Bedard to run a 16 game gauntlet from hell as a 1C that winning a cup demands. … Same with Nazar skating 18 minutes a night as a top 6 centerman. Besides Frondell I like Boisvert as the 2nd best center in the system. I see the system as having a good number of young players who can play center but too few who are centerman.

      At minimum they’re smallish and I’d love to see either without the shackles of centerman defensive responsibilities. A Nazar and Bedard on wing with McTavish-Frondell-Boisvert as your top 3 centerman is a damn near fever dream and hell to match up against.

      Bennett. A rare bird man but my point wasn’t that McTavish is a Bennett only that you can’t have watched Florida the last few yrs and not been amazed by the effectiveness of Bennett who’s most pts in a season is 51. No, McT ain’t a rat bastard criminal like Bennett but he’s a 220lb load you must deal with who plays hungry and has proven as a teenager he can score at the NHL level. Point is difference making BIG, impactful, responsible centerman are incredible assets and rare when all is said and done…….. This is especially essential if you come from the school that players win cups not points.

      KD is going to hang on to a lotta these guys to see how they develop, essentially what he has? …. Frenchy, is thinking an NHL organIzation should be able to identify which players in their system will be NHLers before the rest of the league and maximize return on those it sees won’t be an abstract thought? Is management of NHL franchises looking to identify NHLers in their system as much as prospects who won’t be? Especially higher rd picks and move them before there is no doubt they won’t be players of consequence? Kind of an aside cuz I’m not claiming Artie or Rinzel won’t be NHLers. I’d be willing to trade a legit 1D for a a legit 1C, and vice-versa especially if I’m dealing from strength.

      Timeline and phases of the rebuild. You do agree that any 22 yr old impactful add is in their timeline today, right? You just don’t agree that a trade of significance sending a young player the other way who they need more data on before they move him?……. My hypothetical hope (or is this abstract thinking?). Enough in the organIzation while he’s youngish say Artie ain’t gonna be an NHL 1st pairing guy and his ceiling is 50 pts and a break even in the fancy stats guy. Lets move him for what a #1 RS Dman will bring back before the rest of the league knows what we know.

    • #37218
      Assman22
      Participant

      For those of you comparing McTavish at 22 years old to Benny in his prime, remember when Benny was 22 years old he was putzing around with the Flames putting up 27 pts while McTavish had 52 pts. The epitome of apples to oranges. Again, it’s about a team’s current makeup/needs as to whether #1 center or #1 RD is more needed (not more important).

      Teams current needs? For fun let’s say we trade Rinzel or Arty, who in the pipeline even comes close to the ability of either one on the right side defensively? No one so then you immediately create a need for another RDman when you actually have a ton of forwards who one of whom may possibly become that center. No offense but that would be a horrific trade.
      Friendly reminder we won 3 SCs without a bonafide second liner.

      Dots, you’re struggling to keep up buddy. Read it again, slowly this time: “it’s about a team’s current makeup/needs as to whether #1 center or #1 RD is more needed”. Didn’t mention the Hawks, just said “a team’s”. For example (for fun as you say), one could argue Toronto given all the scoring they had up and down the lineup would value a #1 RD over a #1 center. If they traded Matthews for Makar (which would never happen), Toronto would be better off as long as they kept Marner and extended Knies. Sorry Queafs fans, but you’re not getting past Florida to the Cup Final if your top pairing is Rielly/Tanev and some fillers.

    • #37222
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Dots, you’re struggling to keep up buddy. Read it again, slowly this time: “it’s about a team’s current makeup/needs as to whether #1 center or #1 RD is more needed”. Didn’t mention the Hawks, just said “a team’s”. For example (for fun as you say), one could argue Toronto given all the scoring they had up and down the lineup would value a #1 RD over a #1 center. If they traded Matthews for Makar (which would never happen), Toronto would be better off as long as they kept Marner and extended Knies. Sorry Queafs fans, but you’re not getting past Florida to the Cup Final if your top pairing is Rielly/Tanev and some fillers.[/quote]

      I’ll try harder next time, it’s difficult for me to keep up with how brilliant you are and how i am just so fortunate to read what you write and try to make sense out of it.

    • #37228
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Thanks for posting boiler. Surprised with this lineup with being on the road.

      Surprised at that myself Lou. Just hope nobody gets hurt. I think several on this roster, after Bedard, Nazar, Lev and Rinzel represent the next tier of prospects. Of course there is some AHL fodder in the lineup too rounding things out.

    • #37229
      Chunk
      Participant

      Hey everybody! Nice to see y’all are still getting along.

      I know I’m jumping in a bit late here, but maybe we let some of the 5th graders KD’s drafted recently show what they can do before launching them for an 8th grader.

    • #37234
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey everybody! Nice to see y’all are still getting along.

      I know I’m jumping in a bit late here, but maybe we let some of the 5th graders KD’s drafted recently show what they can do before launching them for an 8th grader.

      Chunk is in the house. Looky here, Dots………. Good to see you, Chunk.

      • #37291
        Chunk
        Participant

        Hey Rico. Thanks. I figured, I would drop a stink bomb in the middle of the whole discussion and then just leave, but there’s no fun if you don’t hang around and throw a couple low punches.

    • #37258
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Thanks for posting boiler. Surprised with this lineup with being on the road.

      they are required to ice so many veterans. plus, after tonight a few guys playing tonight will be sent back to their junior tea or RFD.

    • #37268
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Hey everybody! Nice to see y’all are still getting along.

      I know I’m jumping in a bit late here, but maybe we let some of the 5th graders KD’s drafted recently show what they can do before launching them for an 8th grader.

      ????

    • #37275
      Angotti
      Participant

      I also like size up the middle, however not all centers in every single line need to have size. Yes, the first wave of centers are not huge, however the second wave of Frondell, Boisvert, Spellacy and Greene all bring size, and my understanding is that Moore is up 195 lbs as well. As the 25/26 season starts, there’s no need to overpay for a McTavish at this time, first KD needs the dust to settle and see what these guys all bring. There are a lot of darts in both offense and defense, eventually they’ll need to move a couple or three of them(no room at the inn)to upgrade a need, that time is not now because we don’t know what the need will be. One thing is for certain, it will probably not be a RD. JMHO

    • #37288
      Gramps28
      Participant

      I also like size up the middle,

      however not all centers in every single line need to have size. Yes, the first wave of centers are not huge, however the second wave of Frondell, Boisvert, Spellacy and Greene all bring size, and my understanding is that Moore is up 195 lbs as well. As the 25/26 season starts, there’s no need to overpay for a McTavish at this time, first KD needs the dust to settle and see what these guys all bring. There are a lot of darts in both offense and defense, eventually they’ll need to move a couple or three of them(no room at the inn)to upgrade a need, that time is not now because we don’t know what the need will be. One thing is for certain, it will probably not be a RD. JMHO

      i bet you do.

      not there is anything wrong with that. ????

    • #37298

      Hey everybody! Nice to see y’all are still getting along.

      I know I’m jumping in a bit late here, but maybe we let some of the 5th graders KD’s drafted recently show what they can do before launching them for an 8th grader.

      We agree with everything everyone says here. Get with the program.(aka rpete)

    • #37303
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Been asking Dots where you were the last couple weeks, Chunk. You two chop it up pretty good and keep a message board from growing cobwebs. …. Glad you found your way over.

      Cuz as far as I’m concerned, a Hawk’s fan has a solid spot here. Frenchy has shared some of his bio and going from memory know he’s a Canadian boy, lives in Montreal, is a Hawks fan, scouted the USHL and cut up film for an ECHL squad. My kinda blogger especially one rooted in jrs hockey and earned a paycheck scouting that level. …. It was BoilerMaker who found this place and posted the link and was a stroke of good luck for me.

      The software has some bugs so you’ll get posts lost in space. I’ve found using the quote feature can lose my post so I’m careful as I can be as I’ve lost a few, which gets old man. … Trial and error is advised.

    • #37305
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Lou, nothing at all with a wait and see approach for the organIzation. Nothing at all but I hate to think of any opportunities that aren’t explored and to me I just don’t see a McTavish at 22 yrs of age getting a rough ride from management that might lead to him being moved. ….. Not sure why but I’ve always thought, from his permanent hiring, KD looks every single day at a chance to move for a guy like McTavish.

      I feel much better with Frondell’s size in the system but doesn’t mean I’m satisfied that the system has the size at center I’d love to have, or true centerman for that matter.

      Plus asset allocation will rear its head eventually. If Artie, Rinzel reach their ceiling will it take giving each 20 mil per in their UFA yrs? Not to mention Vlasic will be looking at 10 mil plus per yr. I guess it can be argued two first rate centers will cost to but I’d like to think the organIzation has an eye to future payroll problems and are as proactive on that account as possible.

      Let’s see about this Bedard improved giddyup tonight first. See what Blashil is thinking by usage of the roster tonight.

    • #37306
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Finally get to watch some hockey

    • #37307
      Metalhead
      Participant

      i bet you do.

      not there is anything wrong with that.

      Nonno yer a dirty, dirty old man

      • #37311
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Del Mastro wearing the A tonight. Got a feeling that bodes well for him making the team out of camp.

    • #37313
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Del Mastro wearing the A tonight. Got a feeling that bodes well for him making the team out of camp.

      Kaiser, Bedard and Nazar are wearing the A, BM

    • #37314
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Del Mastro wearing the A tonight. Got a feeling that bodes well for him making the team out of camp.

      Kaiser, Bedard and Nazar are wearing the A, BM

      Yeah, you’re right. I mistook Kasier for Del Mastro.

    • #37322
      Metalhead
      Participant

      breaking news:
      Bedard still knows how to shoot.

    • #37323
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Watching Kurvers and tonight’s game Arty is going back to Rockford. Korchinski looks like he has a better chance to make this team.

    • #37329
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Watching Kurvers and tonight’s game Arty is going back to Rockford.

      He’ll be given every chance to stick, but for now he sure does not look ready for prime time.

    • #37332
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey MH, best part of Bedard’s goal was it was a 1 timer. I was amazed at how often he’d outright whiff on the shot and he rarely got good wood on the thing last yr. With his skilled hands was really surprised at how often his 1 timer was poor……. Looked like he took a little off the shot to hit it solid.

      The PK ain’t no passive box. Looks like Blashill wants an aggressive kill.. Best I could tell he had Kaiser out on the 1st PK unit every time short handed. …… Did I see Nazar centering Bedard and Moore late in the 2nd? Super duper happy Blashill is interested in getting looks at Bedard at wing. ….. Not sure on Bedard’s reported uptick in speed but he does look a tad thicker to me.

      Yea Dots, looks like Artie belongs in the AHL to start and I’m fine with starting the 19 yr old in the AHL getting big minutes in all situations. ….. Ain’t getting a good feel for the forecheck under Blashill yet.

    • #37335
      boilermaker
      Participant

      The PK ain’t no passive box. Looks like Blashill wants an aggressive kill..

      I read Blashill coached the PK at Tampa Bay last season and does want to implement that system here. Lightning had 11 shorties last year being aggressive and forcing turnovers on the PK.

    • #37336
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      But then Arty does something like that and leads the rush for the game tying goal, can’t wait till he’s ready

    • #37337
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Agree. An improved one-timer would be a welcome addition.

      That was a nice snipe by Kaiser, not much room from the camera view behind him.

    • #37338
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      With Oliver Moore standing in front of the goalie taking his eyes away

    • #37339
      Chunk
      Participant

      That last goal is completely on Bedard for a garbage turnover win his own zone.

    • #37342
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Big pile of ~meh~ tonight.

    • #37346
      Chunk
      Participant

      Big pile of ~meh~ tonight.

      Nothing to read much into though. A bunch of lines that won’t be playing in the reg season. Not great to see EDM struggle so much. Soda being a brick wall was nice to see.

    • #37347
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Nothing to read much into though. A bunch of lines that won’t be playing in the reg season. Not great to see EDM struggle so much. Soda being a brick wall was nice to see.

      For sure. There were not any “OMG” jumps from the youngsters, woulda been nice.
      Soda still kinda swimmy and some rebounds seemed kinda off. Thankfully he looked like last year Soda and not ’23/24 Soda.
      EDM and Arty showed us why Gryz is here.

    • #37375
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      That last goal is completely on Bedard for a garbage turnover win his own zone.

      With a devil may care attitude, Chunk. The turnover was weak the “attempt” to get the puck back was pathetic. … Bedard looked the same to me except he’s a tad thicker. .

    • #37393
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Watching last night one thing was obvious team speed is nice but the team that played with more discipline and structure won last night. Something i hope Blashill instills in the team.

    • #37410
      Chunk
      Participant

      That last goal is completely on Bedard for a garbage turnover win his own zone.

      With a devil may care attitude, Chunk. The turnover was weak the “attempt” to get the puck back was pathetic. … Bedard looked the same to me except he’s a tad thicker. .

      Well that kind of depends, doesn’t it? After a turnover in your own zone, what are his responsibilities? If I had to guess, he’s not allowed to just chase the puck all over the zone until he gets it back. It was bad, but it’s also preseason playing with a bunch of guys he hasn’t much in practice and who likely won’t be with the club to start the year.

      Point it out, learn, and move on…

      I want to see how he does with Burakovsky and Donato. I’ll also hold any judgement on Nazar until I see him back with TT and Bertuzzi. They both looked very disjointed and unsure to me yesterday.

    • #37411
      Chunk
      Participant

      Watching last night one thing was obvious team speed is nice but the team that played with more discipline and structure won last night. Something i hope Blashill instills in the team.

      As is normally the case. The most disappointing thing to me yesterday was that Blashill said he wants to get everyone shooting more. There were more deferrals yesterday than at a college admissions office.

      I like Dach, but I don’t think he’ll be much more than a bottom sixer. I just don’t think he can play at the higher pace. (not just based on this game)
      Outside of the chance in the 1st, Reichel was invisible to me.
      Lafferty is still where puck possession goes to die.
      Kaiser seemed to be the most effective defenseman. I think he’s a great partner for Arty.
      If this is Soda’s standard game and not the exception, the Hawks are going to be in good hands in net this year.

    • #37413
      Assman22
      Participant

      If this is Soda’s standard game and not the exception, the Hawks are going to be in good hands in net this year.

      Soda’s been solid for awhile now in games where he limits the rebound chances. He does a great job of squaring up the shooter to make himself big but when he moves his body upward in doing so, his pads go from slightly inward downfacing (which causes the puck to go downward) to flat so if the puck hits his pads while he’s in the motion of squaring up, he’s extremely vulnerable to giving up juicy nuggies on the doorstep.

    • #37419
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s sad to say but it looks like Reichel is just continues to be a floater when he’s on the ice

      It’s crazy that he has such good speed and refuses to use it defensively.

    • #37420
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Now that’s the one timer I’ve been waiting to see from Bedard. Glad they finally figured it out

      Bedard looked great other than the turnover. Best forward on the ice last night for us.

    • #37429
      Chunk
      Participant

      Now that’s the one timer I’ve been waiting to see from Bedard. Glad they finally figured it out

      Bedard looked great other than the turnover. Best forward on the ice last night for us.

      He did look good. I’m not at all concerned about Bedard’s offense. Especially when he finally gets some actual NHL line mates (which I think Burakovsky can be a really good one as long as he stays healthy). The nice things to see from him last night were the improved back checking, 70% FO, and actually engaging on defense. It wasn’t perfect by any means, but definitely better than what we saw last year.

      It’ll likely be ugly to start, but should get notably better as the year progresses.

    • #37431
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Toews played his 1st game w/ Winnipeg last night.
      I watched some highlights.
      He got back nicely to spoil a breakaway. Also had a nice low angle attempt after a faceoff win.

      All comes down to how his body holds up. Interested to how much they manage his workload.

    • #37462
      Angotti
      Participant

      Well, they played decent in the first period, then it was Colliton bad after that. Can’t worry after one preseason game, many of these guys will be in Rockford or back in Juniors. Bedard was definitely the best player on the ice, the rest besides Soda were meh.

    • #37465
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      EDM and Arty showed us why Gryz is here.

      This was my immediate takeaway, MH. Grz is a lock to make the roster and eat 20:00 a night for this squad. And that’s ok. And it’s ok that 19 yr old Artie needs lotsa games and reps down at RKF. IMO EDM is the least of my worries. Dude is solid enough to be a useful NHLer. He’ll be asked to take shifts above his experience/skill and like most of the roster slotted up too high the lineup.

    • #37466
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Scott Powers @ByScottPowers 2h
      The Blackhawks have re-assigned Marek Vanacker, Jack Pridham, Nathan Behm and Parker Holmes back to their junior teams.

    • #37467
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey Dots, listened to the radio side and Wiedeman said Bedard shaved a couple inches off his stick to help with faceoffs. I think that’s a big reason he got good wood on his 1 timer goal. Generally speaking the shorter the stick the easier it is to make solid contact and you’re more accurate, AND get a shot of a tick quicker but you give up some whip. ….. Add in it’s helpful for faceoffs I’m all for The Phenom using a shorter stick.

    • #37470
      popsghostly
      Participant

      Good to see familiar faces here. Hopefully Paul, Mo, LA and Wiz will join. Hopefully Blaishill will get the D shored up as 43 shots against a JV Wings team is not good especially since we were fielding 6 NHL-ready D men. They need to keep the crease clear and forwards need to come back and get their man as it seems like a lot of secondary chances.

      • #37594
        LAHawk
        Participant

        Hello everyone, hope y’all had a wonderful summer.

        Thanks Boilermaker for directing to this site. Really enjoying CoachFrenchy’s blogs. Clear, concise with ton’s of info, and in-depth analysis.

        As far as the team, the old adage wait until after the first 20 games to see what you have really pertains to this team. New systems (again), new players young team will take awhile for Blashill to sort out the players roles.

      • #37607
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @LAHAWK Welcome to the HHS family! Really appreciate your kind words about my articles. We’re lucky to have a great group of people here who love hockey, share their opinions, and keep the conversations going.

        I’m always up for debates and different perspectives — as long as it’s done with respect, that’s how we all get better. Any feedback on my articles or ideas to improve the site are always welcome, don’t hesitate.

        If there’s a topic you’d like me to cover, just drop it in the forum. I try to check in at least once a day and enjoy adding my voice to the discussions. Looking forward to your takes!

        —Frenchy

      • #37620
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Welcome in the HHS family.

    • #37482
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Good to see familiar faces here.

      Hey, glad you’re here. We got most of the old crew back. Wiz posts a lot on Frenchy’s blogs. Hopefully he’ll make his way to this thread soon.

    • #37491
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Scott Powers @ByScottPowers 2h
      The Blackhawks have re-assigned Marek Vanacker, Jack Pridham, Nathan Behm and Parker Holmes back to their junior teams.

      There were a few shifts where Pridham was noticable and looked like he belonged. … Saw enough of his Kitchner games to say he’s a smooth athlete and has some skill in his hands, feet and head. Reminds me of Gavin Hayes. Greene too a bit. .. Smooth silky athletes.

    • #37494
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Good to see familiar faces here. Hopefully Paul, Mo, LA and Wiz will join. Hopefully Blaishill will get the D shored up as 43 shots against a JV Wings team is not good especially since we were fielding 6 NHL-ready D men. They need to keep the crease clear and forwards need to come back and get their man as it seems like a lot of secondary chances.

      Yea, it is good to see familiar faces, you included, Pops……… Wiz and VA Bear are here too. Wizard and Chunk signed up yesterday. Totem, lotta guys and many I forgetting.

      I just hope it ain’t too soon into the season where we start talking about who the Hawks are drafting with the #2 pick in the draft.

    • #37496
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Grz is a lock to make the roster and eat 20:00 a night for this squad.

      Blackhawks defense rostered players:
      Murphy
      Vlasic
      Kaiser
      Rinzel
      Crevier (lost waivers exemption, he stays up unless the team trades or sends him down and risks losing him for nothing

      Out of those 5, only Murphy is a true veteran. Vlasic has 179 NHL games, Kaiser 98, Crevier 56 and Rinzel 9 games.
      That would leave (2) roster spots that both get consistent TOI (if you think Crevier is mostly sitting).

      There are three good reasons to keep another veteran to stabilize the defense for now.
      1) Spencer Knight 2) Connor Bedard 3) Frank Nazar

      Is Knight best developed by having him face a shooting gallery and lots of breakaways every game? Low save %, damaged confidence, etc.
      Or would it be better to let him get slightly more comfortable with a possibly “weak”, but not “learning on the job” defense in front of him?
      Is it really a great idea to have Bedard and Nazar consistently play while down a goal or two?
      Or would it be better to have them play more minutes in tied games or learning how to protect/increase a lead?
      (don’t get me wrong, if it’s a disaster all 3 will tough it out like they should, I just don’t think it’s the best way for them to develop)

      you still can do something like:
      Vlasic / Rinzel
      Murphy / Kaiser
      Gryz / rotating youngster (Crevier, Arty, EDM, etc) or flip Gryz and Kaiser

      Still plenty of NHL experience to be had for defensive newbies (which includes Rinzel, Kaiser), while maybe upgrading the NHL game experience for your most important non-defense players.
      I’m not 100% convinced Gryz gets kept, but this is my best argument in favor of it.

      • #37570

        I can’t get my quote to take….
        Replying to MH’s 1:27 post.
        I’m still expecting KK to be one of the two remaining to make the team.

    • #37498
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Chunk
      Well that kind of depends, doesn’t it? After a turnover in your own zone, what are his responsibilities? If I had to guess, he’s not allowed to just chase the puck all over the zone until he gets it back. It was bad, but it’s also preseason playing with a bunch of guys he hasn’t much in practice and who likely won’t be with the club to start the year.

      Point it out, learn, and move on…

      I want to see how he does with Burakovsky and Donato. I’ll also hold any judgement on Nazar until I see him back with TT and Bertuzzi. They both looked very disjointed and unsure to me yesterday.[/quote]

      ……….

      Chunk, I had a bad feed yesterday. Help me out…… At the sidewall bedard took a pass and it looked like he coughed not got stripped. Which was it….. Then he was so flat footed and unaware he didn’t even move his feet he pathetically reached as the Wing drove thru the circle. Wrong?

      And I didn’t see Bedard below his endline much, if at all. Kid was above or at the top of the circles when the puck was below the dots in his zone. Looked to me he had winger responsibilities. Wrong? Anyone have a thought?………. So no Chunk, we don’t know what his resposibilities were on the cough/strip but regardless the attempt and awareness at recovery of the puck was feckless. As he’s been 80% of his time as a Hawk..

    • #37500
      Metalhead
      Participant

      43 shots against a JV Wings team is not good especially since we were fielding 6 NHL-ready D men

      Hello Pops.
      I would make the argument that KK, Crevier, Arty and EDM are not NHL ready defensemen.
      They all give reason for future optimism, but they are all still raw, especially at playing defense.

      • #37521
        popsghostly
        Participant

        Hey Metal, that is true. I was getting ahead of the times here. They are the future but against similar group of prospects, disappointing.

    • #37508

      It’s sad to say but it looks like Reichel is just continues to be a floater when he’s on the ice

      It’s crazy that he has such good speed and refuses to use it defensively.

      Reichel with a Reichel like night against non NHL competition. He should have lit it up all night.

    • #37513
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      43 shots against a JV Wings team is not good especially since we were fielding 6 NHL-ready D men

      Hello Pops.
      I would make the argument that KK, Crevier, Arty and EDM are not NHL ready defensemen.
      They all give reason for future optimism, but they are all still raw, especially at playing defense.

      I think you’re underestimating Crevier, MH. He checks a lotta boxes, passes the eye test, crazy good reach he uses, his fancies are solid as a Hawk (context is needed for any Hawk and their fancies), a balanced mobile Dman, his head is up often enough to chip in and he has some offensive zone IQ. Keeps shots low, takes half slappers so he can control it, gets pucks thru. …….. He’s gonna skate a lotta minutes IMO, MH.

    • #37549
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I think you’re underestimating Crevier, MH.

      Fair enough. ????

    • #37576
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Grz is a lock to make the roster and eat 20:00 a night for this squad.

      Blackhawks defense rostered players:
      Murphy
      Vlasic
      Kaiser
      Rinzel
      Crevier (lost waivers exemption, he stays up unless the team trades or sends him down and risks losing him for nothing

      Out of those 5, only Murphy is a true veteran. Vlasic has 179 NHL games, Kaiser 98, Crevier 56 and Rinzel 9 games.
      That would leave (2) roster spots that both get consistent TOI (if you think Crevier is mostly sitting).

      There are three good reasons to keep another veteran to stabilize the defense for now.
      1) Spencer Knight 2) Connor Bedard 3) Frank Nazar

      Is Knight best developed by having him face a shooting gallery and lots of breakaways every game? Low save %, damaged confidence, etc.
      Or would it be better to let him get slightly more comfortable with a possibly “weak”, but not “learning on the job” defense in front of him?
      Is it really a great idea to have Bedard and Nazar consistently play while down a goal or two?
      Or would it be better to have them play more minutes in tied games or learning how to protect/increase a lead?
      (don’t get me wrong, if it’s a disaster all 3 will tough it out like they should, I just don’t think it’s the best way for them to develop)

      you still can do something like:
      Vlasic / Rinzel
      Murphy / Kaiser
      Gryz / rotating youngster (Crevier, Arty, EDM, etc) or flip Gryz and Kaiser

      Still plenty of NHL experience to be had for defensive newbies (which includes Rinzel, Kaiser), while maybe upgrading the NHL game experience for your most important non-defense players.
      I’m not 100% convinced Gryz gets kept, but this is my best argument in favor of it.

      …………

      Really good post, MH. You lay it out as it is and what the options are. Depending on camp/preseason I could see KD deciding EDM, Artie and KK need more seasoning and instead of rotating 1 in at times thru the season he gets another vet Dman for the reasons you post. You don’t want Bedard wasting shifts hemmed in his zone, Knight facing idiotic total shots against or see Nazar go thru that kind of dysfunction, weak structure or semblance of stability. … I do think EDM has a decent chance to break camp with the squad but if not I wouldn’t rule out another vet Dman added.

    • #37580
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I can’t get my quote to take….
      Replying to MH’s 1:27 post.
      I’m still expecting KK to be one of the two remaining to make the team.

      ………………

      rpeters, KK just turned 21 in June. Besides that wasted season as a 19/20 yr old in the NHL has 16 more NHL games 56 AHL games. He’s still green and hopefully gets placed properly to develop and right now IMO that’s the AHL…….. But camp and the preseason should flesh this thing out.

    • #37598
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Replying to MH’s 1:27 post.
      I’m still expecting KK to be one of the two remaining to make the team.

      Could be. I wouldn’t be surprised if they run him up and down the RFD shuttle this year.
      As Mr Ricochet mentioned, it’s weird how young KK still is.

      Nik Hjalmarsson (yes I’m aware a totally different type of D-man) did not stay up for good until he was 22 years, 4 months.
      KK would not be 22 years, 4 months until the start of the ’26/27 season.
      At that time (early October 2026) he would only be one month older than Duncan Keith, when Duncan Keith played his first ever NHL game.
      And as great as he became, Keith still had some warts early in his NHL career.

      KK’s development arc is already disappointing based on his draft position (Adam Boqvist 2.0 anybody?)
      Hopefully he gets it, sooner rather than later.

    • #37599
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hello everyone, hope y’all had a wonderful summer.

      Great to hear from you LA. Hope you’re doing well.

      We’re fortunate to have such a knowledgeable writer as Frenchy. We got a good thing going here between his blogs and this thread.

      Looking forward to the season. They’ll be some growing pains early as you mentioned, but I think they will eventually gel and show some progress.

      • #37619
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @boilermaker thanks, my friend. I truly believe HHS’s success with the Blackhawks coverage depends on all of you. Without this community, none of it happens. We’ve already built a great group here, and your comments and analysis make the forum better every day. I love reading what everyone brings — keep it coming, invite others, and let’s keep growing this thing together. Much appreciated.

    • #37600

      Hello everyone, hope y’all had a wonderful summer.

      Thanks Boilermaker for directing to this site. Really enjoying CoachFrenchy’s blogs. Clear, concise with ton’s of info, and in-depth analysis.

      As far as the team, the old adage wait until after the first 20 games to see what you have really pertains to this team. New systems (again), new players young team will take awhile for Blashill to sort out the players roles.

      Welcome back LA. I figure Blashill learned something under Cooper.

    • #37601
      Chunk
      Participant

      Chunk
      Well that kind of depends, doesn’t it? After a turnover in your own zone, what are his responsibilities? If I had to guess, he’s not allowed to just chase the puck all over the zone until he gets it back. It was bad, but it’s also preseason playing with a bunch of guys he hasn’t much in practice and who likely won’t be with the club to start the year.

      Point it out, learn, and move on…

      I want to see how he does with Burakovsky and Donato. I’ll also hold any judgement on Nazar until I see him back with TT and Bertuzzi. They both looked very disjointed and unsure to me yesterday.

      ……….

      Chunk, I had a bad feed yesterday. Help me out…… At the sidewall bedard took a pass and it looked like he coughed not got stripped. Which was it….. Then he was so flat footed and unaware he didn’t even move his feet he pathetically reached as the Wing drove thru the circle. Wrong?

      And I didn’t see Bedard below his endline much, if at all. Kid was above or at the top of the circles when the puck was below the dots in his zone. Looked to me he had winger responsibilities. Wrong? Anyone have a thought?………. So no Chunk, we don’t know what his resposibilities were on the cough/strip but regardless the attempt and awareness at recovery of the puck was feckless. As he’s been 80% of his time as a Hawk..[/quote]

      Hey Rico. No getting around it. It was a crap play by Bedard. I was following the puck after the turnover so didn’t see exactly what Bedard did. I’m not going to fret much that he’s not a Selke candidate. His game is offense. If he can be reasonable defensively (a la Kane) and put up 100 pts, I’ll be a happy camper. If you are expecting him to turn into some greatly improved defensive player, you are likely going to be gravely disappointed.

      If I’m handicapping it right now, I think Frondell ultimately ends up the 1C and Bedard will ultimately end up a wing. I just think it will free him up to be the point producer he’s destined to be. Frondell is really impressive on his skates and just finds the right places to be. He’s incredibly solid. I watched his last game on the Flosports app. He’s a lot of fun to watch.

    • #37637
      Chunk
      Participant

      Tab over at BleacherNation just posted this regarding how the Hawks are splitting up the practice groups.

      https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/09/25/blackhawks-roster-already-starting-to-take-shape/

      No real surprises there in my eyes other than Korchinski who I thought played a good game. I’d love to see Lardis get in a game and see what he can do against some better competition. One thing I do like is that Blashill doesn’t seem to be waiting too long to get the “main” guys going and concentrating on getting that group to iron out the details.

      I have no idea why, but I’m really interested to see how Foligno does this year.

    • #37640
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s good to see the band is almost all back together

      It seems like Arty is being given the longer leash but if he continues ending up on the wrong side of the puck and no look passes to the opponent in his own zone, he will go to the Rock.

      But as Blashill said he knew his guys would be tired because of the practice earlier in the day and slow defensively because they would be thinking more than playing his system.

    • #37641
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      In the preseason game the one thing i did not like was the forwards not engaging the puck carrier, instead stopping short and guessing where the pass was going, i sure hope that’s not part of Blashill’s approach.

    • #37643
      Assman22
      Participant

      In the preseason game the one thing i did not like was the forwards not engaging the puck carrier, instead stopping short and guessing where the pass was going, i sure hope that’s not part of Blashill’s approach.

      Agreed, they were reacting slowly instead of naturally and likely due to the new systems. The sooner they sort out who’s going where, the sooner they can hammer in the details of the new systems with extra reps to just the ones staying up rather than all the camp bodies. Also, to your point from a previous post about Arty, I also agree he’d be better off going to Rockford along with KK. Not sure who of the two would get paired with Allan but the other will end up with Harding or Mast. If I had to pick one or the other staying up, I’d keep Arty up and hope the vets can whip him into shape.

    • #37649
      Chunk
      Participant

      In the preseason game the one thing i did not like was the forwards not engaging the puck carrier, instead stopping short and guessing where the pass was going, i sure hope that’s not part of Blashill’s approach.

      Agreed, they were reacting slowly instead of naturally and likely due to the new systems. The sooner they sort out who’s going where, the sooner they can hammer in the details of the new systems with extra reps to just the ones staying up rather than all the camp bodies. Also, to your point from a previous post about Arty, I also agree he’d be better off going to Rockford along with KK. Not sure who of the two would get paired with Allan but the other will end up with Harding or Mast. If I had to pick one or the other staying up, I’d keep Arty up and hope the vets can whip him into shape.

      It’s not really a question of Arty vs KK. I really don’t think they will be asking either of those two to switch sides. The Hawks have Rinzel, Murphy, and Crevier on the right side (and I maintain that the Hawks don’t really want Crevier to play every day). KK is up against EDM and Allan for the last LD spot. Vlasic and Kaiser are the locks. Gryz is there to pick up the slack if they don’t think either of KK or Arty really belong. I think they’ll give Arty a ton of rope though.

    • #37657
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hello everyone, hope y’all had a wonderful summer.

      Thanks Boilermaker for directing to this site. Really enjoying CoachFrenchy’s blogs. Clear, concise with ton’s of info, and in-depth analysis.

      As far as the team, the old adage wait until after the first 20 games to see what you have really pertains to this team. New systems (again), new players young team will take awhile for Blashill to sort out the players roles.

      ………..

      Alright, LA. Really good to see you and even better to know your well. ….. Same with me when I first got here, after just 2-3 of his articles this Frenchy guy is the goods I thought. We drew a fine hand here as a bunch of homeless Hawk fans.

      And, your first post brings wisdom and context. Coaching changes are never easy but especially so with such a young roster. For sure, we just can’t get a decent enough handle on the Hawks until maybe 20 games in, at least, as you mention…….. But, even an objective fan is hoping for a jump forward to some degree this season and what we saw in Game 1 from the youngsters was not reassuring. No doubt though any vet forward of consequence didn’t dress v DET.

      Can’t be positive about anything in sport but one thing I feel comfortable saying is a switch goes on outa nowhere many times for kids who will be useful NHLers. Once that starts to happen to a few of them you’ll see a much more dangerous team. …..

    • #37659
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Should we be worried that they lost the first preseason game? No. There are a lot of guys in camp learning a new system. When most of those guys leave, they will go to teams playing another system. It’s the guys staying who need to worry about the new system. Give them time. The vets usually adapt. The young guys should catch on quickly. Let’s see where they are at 20 games. As for the defensemen, whoever is here is here. I think there will be a trade, but with KFC, who knows?

    • #37664
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Replying to MH’s 1:27 post.
      I’m still expecting KK to be one of the two remaining to make the team.

      KK’s development arc is already disappointing based on his draft position (Adam Boqvist 2.0 anybody?)
      Hopefully he gets it, sooner rather than later.

      ……………

      MH, decent enough chance KK doesn’t live up to his draft status but the kid has the traits to be a useful NHL player. Boqvuist really never did. He was an average at best skater, small, really weak in his zone, physically weak and he certainly wasn’t a nose over the puck hungry player. …….. I’m not disappointed in KK but thought/hoped he’d be farther along. Kid turned 21 in June and that first yr in the NHL he was up way too soon and lost his Pops in season. There are excuses/reasons for where he’s at in his development but IMO the biggest one is cuz he is so young at 21 trying to play the toughest position to play in the NHL, defense. …. I can easily envision a 25 yr old man KK, much thicker, head up skating the thing out and being dangerous.

      Remember when Sorensen took over? He must have straight out told KK go, go, go. Jump in, be a 4th forward when it seems proper. Let er rip. Cuz for a good 10 games KK was in the opponents crease a couple times a game, and more sometimes. …. Look forward to seeing a 25 yr old man KK playing that way. It’s in there, the traits are there, we saw it.

    • #37687
      Metalhead
      Participant

      MH, decent enough chance KK doesn’t live up to his draft status but the kid has the traits to be a useful NHL player.

      I agree.
      To be fair though, you neglected to quote/respond to the info I supplied before that last part, supporting the fact that KK is still very young (compared to Hjalmarsson and Keith).

      (imho) keep giving him chances until/unless he totally busts out. I don’t want another Forsling situation.

    • #37690
      Chunk
      Participant

      MH, decent enough chance KK doesn’t live up to his draft status but the kid has the traits to be a useful NHL player.

      I agree.
      To be fair though, you neglected to quote/respond to the info I supplied before that last part, supporting the fact that KK is still very young (compared to Hjalmarsson and Keith).

      (imho) keep giving him chances until/unless he totally busts out. I don’t want another Forsling situation.

      There’s a very real chance of that happening regardless as there are only 6 real spots open on the Hawks backend. It is very likely that at least one of the D-men gets traded and turns into a really good player for another team. That’s one of the main issues with having so many draft choices and building everything through the draft. Inevitably, someone is going to be left out and traded, or leave as a FA and lord help us all when that happens.

    • #37691
      Metalhead
      Participant

      There’s a very real chance of that happening regardless

      Yes, I just think if it were to be KK the pain would be even greater due to
      his draft position and because they traded away DeBrincat to pick KK.

      If you traded/waived Allan or Crevier (just for example) and they improved a ton at age 24 or 25, it’d be kinda random (which could be said of Forsling to be fair).
      But, giving up on the #7OA pick too early and watching him greatly succeed would be a serious kick in the sack and damaging criticism of management.

      • #37730
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Regarding a Korchinski trade…

        I remember a comment from CBJ GM Wadell after he traded #6 OA Jiricek a year or two ago. Paraphrasing he said you can’t fall in love with your draft picks. If it’s time to let one go, let him go.

        Not saying it’s time to trade KK, but I hope KFC exhibits this type of attitude down the road when necessary.

    • #37693
      Chunk
      Participant

      There’s a very real chance of that happening regardless

      Yes, I just think if it were to be KK the pain would be even greater due to
      his draft position and because they traded away DeBrincat to pick KK.

      If you traded/waived Allan or Crevier (just for example) and they improved a ton at age 24 or 25, it’d be kinda random (which could be said of Forsling to be fair).
      But, giving up on the #7OA pick too early and watching him greatly succeed would be a serious kick in the sack and damaging criticism of management.

      Very true, although I personally don’t really take draft position into account much. I go more by draft class. If a team can get one good and one serviceable player out of each draft (regardless of where they are picked), I call that a win. The Hawks have Rinzel and Nazar out of that draft. You are also looking at Greene and Thompson, so lots of bullets that can hit the target. 2023 obviously has Bedard and a ton of good possibles. The one I’m most nervous about is last years with Arty. I love him but he’s really a boom or bust type pick. Boisvert and Vanacker both seem like good players, but I’ve got my concerns with how their games will translate. As always, time will tell.

    • #37696
      Chunk
      Participant

      Some good and bad news from the scribes:

      Anderson is out the rest of the preseason. He’s having a procedure to correct a chronic issue.

      Slaggert skated before practice, but will not play in the games this weekend.

      Spellacy likely to be ready to go for this weekend. Should get a practice in before hand.

      Also, it sounds like Arty had a bit of a struggle today understanding one of the drills.

      Blashill said that Group 1 today was indeed the group most likely to start the year in the NHL, but added there are some guys in group 2 that can still push for playing time. (Nightingale ran Group 2 today).

    • #37701
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s only the preseason … right?

      I think this guy would fit in well here, hahaha

    • #37716
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Chunk, typed out a lengthy quote in your response to Bedard and playing wing specifically but the bastard software jacked me…….. In a nutshell I fail to realize as much as I should we got a new set of eyes with his own way of doing things behind the bench in Blashill. Every assumption we had as far as slotting and trust in players is being looked at by new eyes.

      I understand the Hawks want Bedard to be a centerman but as is Bedard has never shown he won’t be a liability without the puck in every zone, not even glimpses. I hope Blashill’s fresh, and unbiased as one can be about Bedard. eyes will see that and move the kid to wing. IMO we get the worst version of Bedard as a centerman. He’s horrid without the puck and the energy he uses with centerman responsibilities depletes his offense. Him playing center keeps him farthest from his offensive ceiling.

      I’m encouraged in Game 1 under Blashill he indeed had at least one shift I saw with Nazar centering Bedard and I think Moore. … That’s a good sign IMO.

    • #37718
      Chunk
      Participant

      Chunk, typed out a lengthy quote in your response to Bedard and playing wing specifically but the bastard software jacked me…….. In a nutshell I fail to realize as much as I should we got a new set of eyes with his own way of doing things behind the bench in Blashill. Every assumption we had as far as slotting and trust in players is being looked at by new eyes.

      I understand the Hawks want Bedard to be a centerman but as is Bedard has never shown he won’t be a liability without the puck in every zone, not even glimpses. I hope Blashill’s fresh, and unbiased as one can be about Bedard. eyes will see that and move the kid to wing. IMO we get the worst version of Bedard as a centerman. He’s horrid without the puck and the energy he uses with centerman responsibilities depletes his offense. Him playing center keeps him farthest from his offensive ceiling.

      I’m encouraged in Game 1 under Blashill he indeed had at least one shift I saw with Nazar centering Bedard and I think Moore. … That’s a good sign IMO.

      I’m not really advocating for any move of Bedard to wing, but just stating what I think will end up happening. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that Bedard can greatly improve his defense. Marian Hossa is exhibit A. I just think Frondell is going to be a really good one and that will open the gates for Bedard to concentrate on being a point producing monster. It’s mostly a situational thing in my mind. There will end up being guys that are better equipped to handle that position.

      There are plenty of guys that started out big point producers and were horrid defensively that ended up much better in the latter area without sacrificing too much on the former.

    • #37720
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Chunk, I agree Lev has never really shown an above average IQ to me and that’s going back to watching him in the USHL and NCAA and that continues in pro. He ain’t a goof 3 times a game brain fart guy but he’s average IQ to me, although I’d say he has solid IQ in the 1/2 court Ozone game. …. And I was alerted to watch this kid from Belarus in the preseason of his first USHL season. Guys who collected a paycheck from the USHL were high on him. I didn’t quite get it the first couple times seeing him that yr but it didn’t take long to think his excellent size/skill traits that are difference making. ….. To me it would always be how far his between the ears game developed cuz this kid ain’t only really big, can really skate, has real skill in his hands and as hard as it is sometimes to see athleticism in hockey players, especially compared to other sports, you can see it with Artie.

      It might have even been while he was at Michigan St that I thought at worst Artie would be a Ristoleinen. His floor. Big, rangy, athletic Dman with offensive chops but it’s between the ears that limits him. IMO Risto is a very useful player but reading a lotta Meltzer and even when he was with BUFF the fancy stat folks did not like him……. Again, Risto is a pretty useful player but it’s fair to hope the 2nd overall will be better than that.

    • #37721
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Very true, although I personally don’t really take draft position into account much.

      I agree totally with icing the best team, going with who is better, earning TOI, and moving forward with the rebuild as is best, regardless of draft position.

      re: KK, I’m specifically saying it would sting a lot more if they:
      1) began the tank by trading away a 30-40 goal scorer entering his prime and,
      2) used the acquired #7OA pick to draft a D-man and,
      3) they spent years waiting for him to develop and,
      4) they gave up on him a year or so too early and,
      5) then he got good at NHL hockey soon after…..

      *if* all 5 of those happened (the first 3 already happened)
      …that would be a harsh indictment of management, scouting, player development in RFD and CHI, et, etc.

      You could pass it off as “well KK 7OA and Rinzel 25OA same draft class, 1 hit 1 miss”, but man, you better be sure KK sucks before giving up.
      He is still young (as I pointed out w/ the age comparisons a few posts ago)

    • #37723
      Metalhead
      Participant

      but he’s average IQ to me

      Yeah, Arty is not surprising to the upside so far.
      Hopefully things click, even in minor ways, this coming season at RFD and/or CHI.

    • #37729

      As I said, KK has no chance of making the team out of camp.

    • #37742
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Regarding a Korchinski trade…

      I remember a comment from CBJ GM Wadell after he traded #6 OA Jiricek a year or two ago. Paraphrasing he said you can’t fall in love with your draft picks. If it’s time to let one go, let him go.

      Not saying it’s time to trade KK, but I hope KFC exhibits this type of attitude down the road when necessary.

      Easy to trade away a player you didn’t draft. Besides Jiricek expressed his unhappiness with the org.

    • #37744
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides isn’t that exactly what KD did with Kirby Dach?

    • #37780
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Besides isn’t that exactly what KD did with Kirby Dach?

      Trading Dach away while he was young was part of the tank process and it happened over 3 years ago.
      The (major home run) return for Dach is already in the NHL.
      KK is part of the rebuild process. Trading him now likely nets you picks or a project just like KK.

      I have not seen any wild guesses, what do people think KK is worth in a trade right now?
      If they can get a high first rounder like they did for Kirby Dach, then go right ahead. (unlikely for the 2026 draft due to the presumed draft strength?)
      Otherwise, my choice would be, don’t give up until he is toast.

    • #37805
      totem
      Participant

      September 25, 2025 Windsor 4, Sudbury 0 — prospect notes

      Windsor mostly controlled the play but Sudbury was only down 1-0 into the 3rd before giving up some late goals.

      Ethan Belchetz Windsor Spitfires 30-Mar-08 6-5 227 LW (2026 eligible, Wiz #5)
      Belchetz is a huge winger who is expected to go in the top 10 in the 2026 draft. What was on display tonight was his ability to skate and control the puck. He is fast for his size and has very good agility. He had several rushes carrying the puck in, and was also able to control possession in the offensive zone. Retained possession through checking attempts by the defense. Had several chances and ended up with one assist on the night. Size and agility show out and make clear why he will be a top pick. Will be interesting to watch as the season develops and the games get more physical. 56-17-21-38 last year in Windsor and is at a point-per-game pace early in the current season.

      Jean-Christoph Lemieux Windsor Spitfires 19-Jun-08 6-0 187 LC (2026 eligible, Wiz #80)
      Mid-sized but thick center who is willing to go into the corners and behind the net to retrieve the puck in the offensive zone. Hit the post on one early rush and later dug out a puck in the corner and made a pass in front that resulted in a goal. Active and has good speed. 1 assist on the night. 46-9-10-19 last year for Windsor and 4 points in 3 games so far this year.

      Beksultan Makysh Windsor Spitfires 24-May-08 5-10 157 LW (2026 eligible)
      Makysh (pronounced like ma-KEESH) is a small forward who showed impressive puck handling skills on several occasions in this game. Able to maneuver and control the puck in tight areas in the offensive zone. Used his speed to nearly get a breakaway. Ended with one assist. Not currently ranked but if he can continue to show offensive skill might move up and be picked in the 2026 draft. Will need to add size as he moves up to higher leagues. Over 2 ppg last year in 16U AAA and scored well in international play for Khazakstan. 4 points in 3 games so far this year.

      There was some buzz around a hit that Makysh took earlier in the week from London LD Maksim Sokolovskii (various spellings). Sokolovskii is a huge defenseman at 6-8, 225, and is eligible for the 2026 draft; apparently he looks for the big hit. Maybe someone to watch as the season goes on.

      Caden Harvey Windsor Spitfires 13-Feb-08 6-1 181 RW (2026 eligible, Wiz #163)
      Winger with good size who will go to the net and is also a good passer. Had a shot and 2 assists on the night. Agile and good on the puck carry. 95 pts in 53 games in 16U AAA last year. 5 assists in 3 games so far this season. Draft spot might depend on showing consistency through the season.

      Vladimir Provorov Sudbury Wolves 9-Feb-08 5-11 154 LW (2026 eligible)
      Reedy center who was a big scorer in 16U AAA last year (80-37-97-134) and has an assist in 3 games this year. Was showing a responsible defensive game as Sudbury needed to keep the game close. Stays close to the net and is well positioned on defense. Showed some nice passing on offense. Moving to Ohio State for the 2027-28 season so has some time to bulk up and find his offensive game. Not ranked but if his offense begins to show then could get some consideration for the 2026 draft.

      2027 Eligibles:
      John McLaughlin (C, Windsor, 5-9, 163) had two late goals and added an assist in this game, now 3 points in 3 games.

      Brayden Bennett (C, Sudbury, 5-11, 187) has some size and had several nice carries for zone entries and some good passes.

      Luca Blonda (RD, Sudbury, 5-11, 174) played 65 games for Sudbury last year with 15 points.

      Other:
      Alex Pharand Sudbury RW was not signed by CHI but was in the TOR rookie camp.

      Notes log: https://hockeystew25.blogspot.com/

    • #37816
      Bill Meltzer
      Keymaster

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    • #37855
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I am all set to begin chat’N here with you.

      Welcome to HHS Wiz.

    • #37865
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hey thanks, BM for this operating tip, and this move. I am all set to begin chat’N here with you.

      You’re welcome Wiz. It’s nice having you here.

    • #37866
      boilermaker
      Participant

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      Everyone, Looks like after we write a comment, we have to check the “I’m not a robot” box near the bottom.and select the correct pictures before submitting the comment.

    • #37876
      Chunk
      Participant

      Very true, although I personally don’t really take draft position into account much.

      I agree totally with icing the best team, going with who is better, earning TOI, and moving forward with the rebuild as is best, regardless of draft position.

      re: KK, I’m specifically saying it would sting a lot more if they:
      1) began the tank by trading away a 30-40 goal scorer entering his prime and,
      2) used the acquired #7OA pick to draft a D-man and,
      3) they spent years waiting for him to develop and,
      4) they gave up on him a year or so too early and,
      5) then he got good at NHL hockey soon after…..

      *if* all 5 of those happened (the first 3 already happened)
      …that would be a harsh indictment of management, scouting, player development in RFD and CHI, et, etc.

      You could pass it off as “well KK 7OA and Rinzel 25OA same draft class, 1 hit 1 miss”, but man, you better be sure KK sucks before giving up.
      He is still young (as I pointed out w/ the age comparisons a few posts ago)

      Hey MH, I really don’t think you are going to have to worry about KK getting traded. It appears that the new FO views Rockford as a place to actually develop prospects. If KK does down there (he’s supposed to work with the “NHL” group today) they will push him to break out of his bad habits. They literally said that they would be using Rockford as a place to develop players not necessarily to win the Calder Cup. Obviously, they will hope to combine those two goals, but development is first and foremost.

      The only ones to even mention KK getting traded are in this forum, or a couple of the talking heads who have admitted that they are just spitballing and impatient for the Hawks to get better. If Davidson is going to trade KK, it will be because someone blew him away with an offer.

    • #37877
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides isn’t that exactly what KD did with Kirby Dach?

      Trading Dach away while he was young was part of the tank process and it happened over 3 years ago.
      The (major home run) return for Dach is already in the NHL.
      KK is part of the rebuild process. Trading him now likely nets you picks or a project just like KK.

      I have not seen any wild guesses, what do people think KK is worth in a trade right now?
      If they can get a high first rounder like they did for Kirby Dach, then go right ahead. (unlikely for the 2026 draft due to the presumed draft strength?)
      Otherwise, my choice would be, don’t give up until he is toast.

      We agree about Korchinski, except for a high first, i believe in draft and develop not draft and give up to soon on a player.

      It was just me pointing out that he had no issue trading a Bowman pick just like Waddle had no problem trading Jarmos pick Jiricek.

    • #37878
      Chunk
      Participant

      Chunk, I agree Lev has never really shown an above average IQ to me and that’s going back to watching him in the USHL and NCAA and that continues in pro. He ain’t a goof 3 times a game brain fart guy but he’s average IQ to me, although I’d say he has solid IQ in the 1/2 court Ozone game. …. And I was alerted to watch this kid from Belarus in the preseason of his first USHL season. Guys who collected a paycheck from the USHL were high on him. I didn’t quite get it the first couple times seeing him that yr but it didn’t take long to think his excellent size/skill traits that are difference making. ….. To me it would always be how far his between the ears game developed cuz this kid ain’t only really big, can really skate, has real skill in his hands and as hard as it is sometimes to see athleticism in hockey players, especially compared to other sports, you can see it with Artie.

      It might have even been while he was at Michigan St that I thought at worst Artie would be a Ristoleinen. His floor. Big, rangy, athletic Dman with offensive chops but it’s between the ears that limits him. IMO Risto is a very useful player but reading a lotta Meltzer and even when he was with BUFF the fancy stat folks did not like him……. Again, Risto is a pretty useful player but it’s fair to hope the 2nd overall will be better than that.

      I love Arty. I think his game and skills are awesome. I also think he is almost purely a read and react type player. I don’t think he really tries to “see” a play to be made or set anything up. I think (on offense) he just starts doing something, sees what the defense does against him and reacts to counter it.

      Similarly on defense, I don’t think he’s trying to read what play the opponents are trying to set up, I think he just says to himself, I’m going to try and completely neutralize the puck carrier, and that should help my team get the puck back.

      My guess is that Blashill & Co. will try to get him to be more predictable for his teammates, but that’s probably going to be the max. If I had to guess, he’ll be closer to Burns than Risto, but time will certainly tell.

    • #37911
      Chunk
      Participant

      I’m encouraged to see Greene in the 4C spot at the moment. He’s paired with Dach and Lafferty at the moment, so just an outside shot at offensive production, but I’d like to see him get some run.

    • #37914
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Similarly on defense, I don’t think he’s trying to read what play the opponents are trying to set up, I think he just says to himself, “I’m going to try and completely neutralize the puck carrier, and that should help my team get the puck back.”

      My guess is that Blashill Co. will try to get him to be more predictable for his teammates, but that’s probably going to be the max. If I had to guess, he’ll be closer to Burns than Risto, but time will certainly tell.

      I have been a big critic of Arty becasue as you said in the quote, he does just that…feels confident he can rush out of position and save the day on both ends, but hurting his 5 man unit has been the result that saving the day on most of these impulses.

      I thought like the Risto or Burns comparisons.

      The pass of Demidov wasn’t some complusive attempt in the draft room to add a keystone defensivedefenseman.

      He is Risto with a rocket pack on his equipment.

      Burns started upfront at forward and had the hands and attack skills build into the switch to defenseman.

      Arty can outright fly. Arty can pass and shoot on the fly, and it is obvious he poses problems to the opposition. Who doesn’t share the feeling there is lots of attack zone presence in his upcoming career? He may not be Bobby Orr, but he a future factor, once he learbns his end in the defensive scheme of things.

      We can surmise via a fotune teller’s crystal ball that if the Blackhawks had seen the seamless insertion of graduate Big Sam was going to have ice water veins and rookie of the year bravado to where the team gains a possible top end RD ahead of Arty, because of Arty’s inexperience as an NHL backliner, the debate becomes “Would they have selected Demidov?

      I think they are still happy with the guy they got.

      Now 5 years down the pike…Arny will be an accomplished defender or a prominent attack big dee-man that teams want to acquire.

    • #37916
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Chunk, I agree Lev has never really shown an above average IQ to me and that’s going back to watching him in the USHL and NCAA and that continues in pro. He ain’t a goof 3 times a game brain fart guy but he’s average IQ to me, although I’d say he has solid IQ in the 1/2 court Ozone game. …. And I was alerted to watch this kid from Belarus in the preseason of his first USHL season. Guys who collected a paycheck from the USHL were high on him. I didn’t quite get it the first couple times seeing him that yr but it didn’t take long to think his excellent size/skill traits that are difference making. ….. To me it would always be how far his between the ears game developed cuz this kid ain’t only really big, can really skate, has real skill in his hands and as hard as it is sometimes to see athleticism in hockey players, especially compared to other sports, you can see it with Artie.

      It might have even been while he was at Michigan St that I thought at worst Artie would be a Ristoleinen. His floor. Big, rangy, athletic Dman with offensive chops but it’s between the ears that limits him. IMO Risto is a very useful player but reading a lotta Meltzer and even when he was with BUFF the fancy stat folks did not like him……. Again, Risto is a pretty useful player but it’s fair to hope the 2nd overall will be better than that.

      I love Arty. I think his game and skills are awesome. I also think he is almost purely a read and react type player. I don’t think he really tries to “see” a play to be made or set anything up. I think (on offense) he just starts doing something, sees what the defense does against him and reacts to counter it.

      Similarly on defense, I don’t think he’s trying to read what play the opponents are trying to set up, I think he just says to himself, I’m going to try and completely neutralize the puck carrier, and that should help my team get the puck back.

      My guess is that Blashill & Co. will try to get him to be more predictable for his teammates, but that’s probably going to be the max. If I had to guess, he’ll be closer to Burns than Risto, but time will certainly tell.

      ………….

      Chunk, IMO every sport and position is reads. Some more so than others and other than a goalie a Dman has the most reads per game. It’s a really tough position to play especially for young players and especially if they’re not properly developed….. Rinzel’s reads in the USHL were get the puck, skate the puck up and too many times skated into a cul-du-sac into a corner with no options. His reads were to challenge 90% of the outs and get caught flat footed at the attack blueline and an odd man againsts would follow….. Those were bad reads which you can see he learned from. … His reads improved showing the IQ to do so.

      Bedard’s reads were I can pass my bench into the Ozone with and without the puck 1:20 into my shift and impact the game. He sure did with odd man against over and over and over and over. Doesn’t do that much anymore. Would try and beat a Dman 1 on 1 wide and lost possession over and over and over. He learned he doesn’t have the step or moxie, yet, to beat NHL Dmen 1 on 1 so we see him check up and at least lose possession later.

      Artie’s reads at the attack blueline leads to multiple odd man’s against per game. Artie’s reads in the Dzone 1/2 court as we can all see need work and are average at best, were that way in the USHL but IMO better in the NCAA…… But, get that horse rolling on the rush and if has good reads on that sequence that kid is a problem.

      I loved Kaiser a couple shifts into seeing him in the USHL after finishing all 4 yrs in MN HS hockey cuz of his reads, and not only that his reads are good but really quick (processing) and he acts on them even quicker. ….. To me IQ and reads are the same thing for the most part and I use them interchangeably as I think about it to post….. Love love love Guttman’s reads. Gun to my head he had the highest IQ in the system. Can’t watch that kid play, all the way back to USHL Dubuque, and not say atta boy 17 times a game. Uncanny how often and how many of his reads reads are near perfect….. He’s just so physically limited it’s hard for him to be effective.

      No matter whatever happens to Nazar I missed big time on him and I watched his 2 yrs at The Program, live. O sure kid could skate all day long, put up pts with just above average hands (finishing hands) but what the reads/IQ he showed in the Bigs last yr blew me away. He didn’t show that in the NCAA, not close. …. I wondered is he the poster child for those who proclaim some guys are better in the NHL than in college or ever jrs? Kinda player who is so sound he needs others like him to hit his ceiling, that the chaotic nature of anything below the NHL can be dominated by pure skill but much tougher to dominate for guys with real cerebral skill. I think Nazar profiles this way and I never saw it coming… Maybe Bedard does too but I haven’t seen that.

      Watch the Buium kid outa MN. IQ/reads bursting out every pore and this dude can skate.

      Hawks are young, man. All of KD’s draft picks are so young I don’t feel comfortable talking in absolutes about any of them but it’s fair to evaluate and prognosticate. …..

    • #37951
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know it’s his first preseason game but Buium looked worse than Korchinski yesterday.

      I always thought his feet were a bit slow especially in reverse kindof like Sanderson but I’m probably wrong

    • #37961
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Holy crap Barkov out for the whole season.

    • #37962
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      He Wiz, no matter how good Rinzel, or anyone else becomes, the Hawks did the right thing drafting Artie over Demidov, and I’m a huge fan of Demidov……. You put it well, Artie can flat out fly once he gets going and can play at that pace. Has the skill in his hands to play at that pace…. He’s really athletic and coordinates his hands and feet without a problem at high speeds. Good athlete with a farm boy build.

      I hope they give him most of the yr in the AHL. He ain’t scared to attack from any inch of ice but just the same gimme a more sound and a yr older Artie next yr and let him rip.

    • #37977
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      MH, If KD moved KK today he’d be selling at his lowest point on top of he just turned 21. The return would be a good bit less than the cost and time spent developing him, I’d assume……. IMO very very little chance he’s moved anytime soon.

    • #37984
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I’m personally not sold on Levshunov making the team out of camp (he might make it but I don’t know that he is ready) as he was showing a lot of rough edges still IMO. I thought Crevier, Del Mastro, Rinzel has a good game against the Wings. KK was only okay. Kaiser/Levshunov as a pair generated some offense, but had a lot of struggles as well.

      Levshunov/KK might both end up playing AHL hockey again to start the season and nothing wrong with that based on their age as some of the youngest D the Hawks have at the pro level. D-men take time. Even Rinzel seems to have a fair bit to iron out after his college experience (still also so young). I don’t see the Hawks selling on any of those three at this stage.

    • #37988
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I’m personally not sold on Levshunov making the team out of camp (he might make it but I don’t know that he is ready) as he was showing a lot of rough edges still IMO. I thought Crevier, Del Mastro, Rinzel has a good game against the Wings. KK was only okay. Kaiser/Levshunov as a pair generated some offense, but had a lot of struggles as well.

      Levshunov/KK might both end up playing AHL hockey again to start the season and nothing wrong with that based on their age as some of the youngest D the Hawks have at the pro level. D-men take time. Even Rinzel seems to have a fair bit to iron out after his college experience (still also so young). I don’t see the Hawks selling on any of those three at this stage.

      I agree that DelMastro, KK and Levshunov need time percolate, but I cannot see anyway Big Sam gets sent down or benched. He is very composed, and man, have his movement skills taken hold from when they scouted him in high school.

      Del mastro will use his time to hone his skills, and I think he gets what he have to do as defenseman, and just needs to get quicker and bigger, and continue improving…in the AHL.

      No matter what I think, I wouldn’t bet on Arty gets a long long look and if not any injury call up with be his debut to show he can handle the play with less quick twitch on the defensive side.

      How about you Bread, play fanatsy hockey with us????

    • #37991
      Assman22
      Participant

      Besides isn’t that exactly what KD did with Kirby Dach?

      Kyle didn’t draft Kirby Dach. He was still picking guys up from the airport back then lol which is why he didn’t want anyone from that era to be on this Hawks team and why Kane/ADB and the rest had to go immediately. Kyle wanted respect within the organization and wasn’t going to get it as a new GM when Kane & Co only knew him as Bowman’s female dog!

    • #38004
      Assman22
      Participant

      Holy crap Barkov out for the whole season.

      Everyone is talking about how the Hawks might have a chance to win opening night with Barkov and Tkachuk out but why is no one talking about how much better that 2026 1st rounder could end up being because of said injuries and in a sick draft class no less?! Could potentially go from #30 to #20.
      Another thought, this now moves Benny up to 1C and likely push Reinhart or Marchand to 2C but if that doesn’t work out and they have to move Lundell to 2C, Florida is very thin up the middle and will need to look for help outside their organization immediately. Cough **Jason Dickinson** Cough. Clear Throat. Ahem! Another guy we have that would fit their style of play is Bert.

    • #38010
      Chunk
      Participant

      Holy crap Barkov out for the whole season.

      Everyone is talking about how the Hawks might have a chance to win opening night with Barkov and Tkachuk out but why is no one talking about how much better that 2026 1st rounder could end up being because of said injuries and in a sick draft class no less?! Could potentially go from #30 to #20.
      Another thought, this now moves Benny up to 1C and likely push Reinhart or Marchand to 2C but if that doesn’t work out and they have to move Lundell to 2C, Florida is very thin up the middle and will need to look for help outside their organization immediately. Cough **Jason Dickinson** Cough. Clear Throat. Ahem! Another guy we have that would fit their style of play is Bert.

      Not that he’s anywhere close to Barkov, but Roslovic is still out there, and they wouldn’t need to give anything up.

    • #38011
      boilermaker
      Participant

      2026 1st rounder

      FLA still has the option to trade their 2026 1st sometime before the 2026 draft in which case the Hawks get the Panther’s 2027 1st.

      Maybe FLA will use it in a package to obtain McTavish for use as a replacement center.

    • #38012
      Assman22
      Participant

      FLA still has the option to trade their 2026 1st sometime before the 2026 draft in which case the Hawks get the Panther’s 2027 1st.

      Maybe FLA will use it in a package to obtain McTavish for use as a replacement center.

      Yeah, except if they go that route then they would be giving up their 1st round picks for 2026, 2027, and 2028 due to Marchand deal conditions being achieved thus taking the 2027 1st rounder. If Hawks slide to their 2027 1st rounder then Bruins take their 2028 1st rounder.

    • #38024
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Yeah, except if they go that route then they would be giving up their 1st round picks for 2026, 2027, and 2028

      They got their core, a lot in their prime, signed to relatively team friendly contracts for the next several years. They are in the win now mode.

    • #38026
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      2026 1st rounder

      FLA still has the option to trade their 2026 1st sometime before the 2026 draft in which case the Hawks get the Panther’s 2027 1st.

      Maybe FLA will use it in a package to obtain McTavish for use as a replacement center.

      A lot of disgruntled trades for a young player require a young player going the other way, I’d imagine Lundell would be their requirement in the trade for McT

    • #38027
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      With McT it’s got to be the owners pulling the strings, I’ve said it before poverty franchises stink to be a part of.

    • #38040
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      FLA still has the option to trade their 2026 1st sometime before the 2026 draft in which case the Hawks get the Panther’s 2027 1st.

      Maybe FLA will use it in a package to obtain McTavish for use as a replacement center.

      I swear i heard someone on TV comment that the time had passed and now the pick was locked in.

    • #38041
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      FLA still has the option to trade their 2026 1st sometime before the 2026 draft in which case the Hawks get the Panther’s 2027 1st.

      Maybe FLA will use it in a package to obtain McTavish for use as a replacement center.

      I swear i heard someone on TV comment that the time had passed and now the pick was locked in.

      According to AI you’d be correct

      Yes, the Chicago Blackhawks are guaranteed the Florida Panthers’ 2026 first-round pick because a condition on the pick was met on June 27, 2025. The original trade for Seth Jones gave the Blackhawks a conditional 2026 first-round pick, but it was dependent on the Panthers owning their own 2026 first-round pick. This condition was met when the Panthers still held onto their pick before the 2025 NHL Entry Draft, converting the pick from conditional to guaranteed. 

    • #38056
      Metalhead
      Participant

      MH, If KD moved KK today he’d be selling at his lowest point on top of he just turned 21. The return would be a good bit less than the cost and time spent developing him, I’d assume……. IMO very very little chance he’s moved anytime soon.

      Mr. Ricochet,
      I never advocated for the Hawks trading/selling low on KK.
      I pointed out how young he still is (I compared his age to Hammer and Keith)
      and how the only, but unlikely acceptable reason to trade him would be a high 1st rounder, which is unlikely due to the 2026 draft strength.

      My preference (if I was in charge lol) would be to keep giving him chances until he proves to be a total bust out.
      Mainly in RFD this year with a couple short NHL callups would be fine with me. (unless he shows he’s ready of course)

    • #38062
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I swear i heard someone on TV comment that the time had passed and now the pick was locked in.

      Yes, the Chicago Blackhawks are guaranteed the Florida Panthers’ 2026 first-round pick because a condition on the pick was met on June 27, 2025.

      Thanks for the updates guys. I guess I misunderstood the conditions.

    • #38065
      Metalhead
      Participant

      BetweenTheDots wrote:
      Holy crap Barkov out for the whole season.

      Panthers released a statement saying he’s out 7-9 months.
      The likely start of the playoffs is 7 months from yesterday.
      9 months is after the playoffs end (barring some unexpected delay)

      With the new accrual and playoff roster rules, it will be interesting to see how they handle this.

    • #38093

      Ok, my reply/quotes aren’t working for the last two days, desktop or phone. WTF?
      We’re still missing Steve from Glencoe and Hawk in the D.

    • #38096
      wizardofi
      Participant

      We’re still missing Steve from Glencoe

      We can never have enough Steve, though Assman is doing a good job in his absence.

    • #38116
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Ok, my reply/quotes aren’t working for the last two days, desktop or phone. WTF?
      We’re still missing Steve from Glencoe and Hawk in the D.

      Check the I’m not a robot box beneath where you’re writing your comment before submitting.

    • #38120
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Tonight’s game will be a relaxation with little stress.

      Sunday with a Bear’s late start, the Hawk’s exhibition may see many double screen viewing.

      • #38135
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Hey Wiz, I checked your mock draft. I see you have the Hawks selecting 23rd with the Florida pick. Did you move that pick up due to Barkov’s injury or did you always have it there? I wouldn’t mind it a little higher. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised to see KFC package 2 of his 3 2nds to grab another late 1st.

        2026 NHL Mock Draft

    • #38128
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Tonight’s game will be a relaxation with little stress.

      Sunday with a Bear’s late start, the Hawk’s exhibition may see many double screen viewing.

      Couple years back i went 2 screens, it’s really been nice to be able to watch multiple sports at once, so include me with watching both games on Sunday.

    • #38138
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Hello to all
      Signed up a little while ago
      Haven’t posted yet
      Used to be CaptainSerious at HockeyBuzz

      Been hanging around a bit at blackhawksbuzz
      Nice to have 2 spots to talk Hocks witht the season starting soon.

      Kantserov scored another goal today and Frondell’a Djurgarden should start in about 2 hours.

      All eyes on Korch and Allan tonight?

      • #38178
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Welcome in the HHS family (Captain)…. Pridham 1 goal last night and Behm too…. Kantserov is 4th of year…

    • #38157
      Assman22
      Participant

      We can never have enough Steve, though Assman is doing a good job in his absence.

      Says the adult pretending to be a Wizard lol

    • #38160
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hello to all
      Signed up a little while ago

      Welcome to HHS.

    • #38172
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Says the adult pretending to be a Wizard lol

      Guess it’s better than being an assuming Assman

    • #38174
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hello to all

      Glad you joined us Captain.

    • #38176
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      #Blackhawks make their second wave of roster cuts, assigning Paul Ludwinski, Brett Seney, Cavan Fitzgerald, Taige Harding, Dmitry Kuzmin, Ryan Mast and Andrew Perrott to AHL’s Rockford IceHogs.

    • #38177
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Thanks Coach. No surprises there

    • #38179
      Angotti
      Participant

      Looks like McTavish is signing with the Ducks, per Elliotte Friedman it will be $7MX6…

    • #38189
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Looks like McTavish is signing with the Ducks, per Elliotte Friedman it will be $7MX6…

      All that haggling over $7 mil per year, Ducks need to find another investor or 2.

    • #38203
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      MH, If KD moved KK today he’d be selling at his lowest point on top of he just turned 21. The return would be a good bit less than the cost and time spent developing him, I’d assume……. IMO very very little chance he’s moved anytime soon.

      Mr. Ricochet,
      I never advocated for the Hawks trading/selling low on KK.
      I pointed out how young he still is (I compared his age to Hammer and Keith)
      and how the only, but unlikely acceptable reason to trade him would be a high 1st rounder, which is unlikely due to the 2026 draft strength.

      My preference (if I was in charge lol) would be to keep giving him chances until he proves to be a total bust out.
      Mainly in RFD this year with a couple short NHL callups would be fine with me. (unless he shows he’s ready of course)

      …………………..

      MH, like rpete I have trouble with the quote and too many times my post was flushed. I’m trying to figure out the funk here and avoid the quote most times. And when you don’t quote too often things get lost in translation. ….. A page ago you asked what a deal for KK might bring back. That is what I was answering…… I know your stance on KK and I feel the same for the most part. ….Kid is 21, way too early to know what kinda NHLer he’ll be and right now his value is at it’s lowest in his short time as a pro.

    • #38210
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Looks like McTavish is signing with the Ducks, per Elliotte Friedman it will be $7MX6…

      ……………

      Hawks are my club but even so I’m most interested to see the Ducks of all teams this yr. Firstly Q is runnin the show. How do you think he feels having Carslsson and McTavish as his top 6 centerman, Krieder, Trouba and Gudas as the beef, Terry, Gauthier, Strome on the roster, Colango on the roster, Sennecke close and good lord McQueen in the system. Mintyukov and Zelleger on the back and Dostal in goal….. That is one helluva place for a guy like Q to land.

      Fun fun club on paper and now Q is in the house……. And just cuz McTavish signed it doesn’t mean all is well. But I think a yr under Q with this roster he’s gonna like ANA more and more. We’ll see but I’m sure all 31 of the other clubs talked to Verbeek about the kid.

    • #38220
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hello to all
      Signed up a little while ago
      Haven’t posted yet
      Used to be CaptainSerious at HockeyBuzz

      Been hanging around a bit at blackhawksbuzz
      Nice to have 2 spots to talk Hocks witht the season starting soon.

      Kantserov scored another goal today and Frondell’a Djurgarden should start in about 2 hours.

      All eyes on Korch and Allan tonight?

      Hey Capn, your posts are always solid. Glad you made your way over………….. The lineups out? Always wanna see Allan, I’m a fan, but really wanna see Spellacy most and Lardis too. IMO there’s gonna be a time where Gavin Hayes nudges his way into the conversation…. Kid cruises with his head up, has the shot to score while he creates in a smooth manner.

    • #38223
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Bad news for Jamie Benn. Collapsed lung. Needs surgery.

      • #38225
        Angotti
        Participant

        Hate to see that. Surgery on a knee or ankle is one thing, however when it involves an organ, that’s always more concerning. Hope it all works out.

    • #38229
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Bad news for Jamie Benn. Collapsed lung. Needs surgery.

      ……………

      I sure hope the Hawks can develop a Jamie Benn. Think he was like a 5th-6th rd pick to boot. … Dude is a man and plays the sport like that. Blood and guts kinda guy any franchise is blessed to have.

      Lou said it well, once organs start getting busted up it’s as serious as it gets. Hopefully he full recovers.

    • #38234
      LAHawk
      Participant

      Looks like McTavish is signing with the Ducks, per Elliotte Friedman it will be $7MX6…

      All that haggling over $7 mil per year, Ducks need to find another investor or 2.

      Interesting, Samueli is one of the richest owners in all of sports worth over $30 billion, about 5x richer than the Wirtzes.

      How come it took the Hawks so long to sign Kaiser for a measly $1.7 million.

      What owner of a Chicago sports franchise opens up it’s pocketbook to pay for talent?

    • #38247
      Chunk
      Participant

      Wow. A lot of the kids are struggling to recognize what’s happening. Moore just totally ignored is responsibility on the second goal. Still getting buried in shots. I’m more interested to see what happens with an abundance of vets i the lineup.

    • #38251
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Hey LA Knight and Nazar would like to have a word with you.

      Always a defender of the poverty franchises you are.

    • #38257
      Chunk
      Participant

      Screw you Jason Dickinson…

    • #38258
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Screw you Jason Dickinson…

      Low hockey IQ

    • #38261
      LAHawk
      Participant

      Hey LA Knight and Nazar would like to have a word with you.

      Always a defender of the poverty franchises you are.

      Just pointing out fake news.

    • #38262
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Hey LA Knight and Nazar would like to have a word with you.

      Always a defender of the poverty franchises you are.

      Just pointing out fake news.

      So you are denying that they’ve always had an internal budget? It’s a well known fact, some habits are hard to break

    • #38263
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Can anyone tell me what Happened to the Lardis 1 timer on the PP late in the period? .. Was it on goal, did it go wide behind the net?…… You can see that kid is good at finding quiet ice and lurks on the weakside. Combined with the best 1 timer in the organIzation when his time comes he’s gonna score some PP goals for the club.

      Hayes is making some plays. Always liked what he brings. Misiak is in on a lotta stuff, especially below the dots in the Ozone. … My guy Crevier had a couple shifts he’d like back in the 1st. Allan has had some nice reads/pinches. KK too on his reads. No doubting the skill in his hands and feet.. Dach with a couple decent shifts. ……. I like Gryz, a lot for this roster. He’s a savvy vet who can settle things down… A whole yr of Knight is gonna be a treat. His technical game, and demeanor too, is tremendous.

      I don’t know, Chunk. I like what I see tonight, much more than Game 1 v DET. More flow, more connected passes, more structure. Couple solid 1-2 pass outs. .. Guessing the fancies will be much better.

    • #38265
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I tell you what in my book Lardis and Moore have passed Reichel on the depth chart

    • #38266
      Chunk
      Participant

      I tell you what in my book Lardis and Moore have passed Reichel on the depth chart

      Really? I think Reichel has been one of, if not the, best forward tonight. Lardis has looked OK, but he needs to learn how to work off the boards. Reichel’s work in that area this offseason seems to be paying off.

      I think Moore starts the year with the big club, IF he can do what he did tonight consistently (aside from leaving his guy on the second goal). It’s going to be hard to send Dach down if he does this every game as well.

    • #38267
      Chunk
      Participant

      Can anyone tell me what Happened to the Lardis 1 timer on the PP late in the period? .. Was it on goal, did it go wide behind the net?…… You can see that kid is good at finding quiet ice and lurks on the weakside. Combined with the best 1 timer in the organIzation when his time comes he’s gonna score some PP goals for the club.

      Hayes is making some plays. Always liked what he brings. Misiak is in on a lotta stuff, especially below the dots in the Ozone. … My guy Crevier had a couple shifts he’d like back in the 1st. Allan has had some nice reads/pinches. KK too on his reads. No doubting the skill in his hands and feet.. Dach with a couple decent shifts. ……. I like Gryz, a lot for this roster. He’s a savvy vet who can settle things down… A whole yr of Knight is gonna be a treat. His technical game, and demeanor too, is tremendous.

      I don’t know, Chunk. I like what I see tonight, much more than Game 1 v DET. More flow, more connected passes, more structure. Couple solid 1-2 pass outs. .. Guessing the fancies will be much better.

      Lardis’ stick broke on the one-timer.

      After an iffy first period, and first five minutes of the second everyone seemed to come around. The kids need to make sure they are playing faster. A lot of them still are trying to figure out where to go with the puck before they move and it slows them down.

      As long as he stays healthy, Hayes should have a much better year in RFD. I think Misiak is going to be a good two-way forward.

    • #38270
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Used the quote on one of your posts, Dots. It went down the dumper!…….. Whatever you knew about ANA throw it out. The Q era starts now. Things are gonna get real interesting out west, Dots.

    • #38271
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I tell you what in my book Lardis and Moore have passed Reichel on the depth chart

      Really? I think Reichel has been one of, if not the, best forward tonight. Lardis has looked OK, but he needs to learn how to work off the boards. Reichel’s work in that area this offseason seems to be paying off.

      I think Moore starts the year with the big club, IF he can do what he did tonight consistently (aside from leaving his guy on the second goal). It’s going to be hard to send Dach down if he does this every game as well.

      I think he made contact twice in this game with the opposing player. If he’s not willing to battle for the puck i don’t see a lot of playing time for him.

    • #38272
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Used the quote on one of your posts, Dots. It went down the dumper!…….. Whatever you knew about ANA throw it out. The Q era starts now. Things are gonna get real interesting out west, Dots.

      People can say one thing but actions always speak louder than words. I mean this has been going on with all of their RFAs. So you and LA can buy what the billionaire is selling but as i always say put your money where your mouth is and that so called mega rich owner still acting like he cant rub two nickels together.

    • #38273
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Wow! I seen some strange hockey plays but never one that the hawks were on the better side of.

      Oliie Moore finished with a defender and ‘tender in front of him.

      He scored before Blues #55, slow on the glove drop could cause a stoppage of play?

      It’s difficult to say the zebras were shy with their decision. The puck was in play in an attack zone, so They were cautious.

      What say you?

    • #38274
      totem
      Participant

      September 27, 2025 – St. John 5, Halifax 3 (QMJHL) – more prospect notes

      Shawn Carrier Halifax Mooseheads 14-Mar-07 5-10 183 LW (Undrafted 2025)
      Carrier is short, thick and agile, and is good down low and around the net. Is able to get the puck on the net in the offensive zone. Good energy, had a power play goal early in the 2nd period to give his team the lead Line was 59-18-26-44 at Halifax last year but was passed over in the 2025 draft. A jump in scoring would help him in looking for a 2026 draft slot.

      Liam Kilfoil Halifax Mooseheads 21-Mar-07 5-11 179 LC (Undrafted 2025)
      Kilfoil is around the puck all the time and is good at getting possession. Showed some good carry into the offensive zone, dug the puck out of the corner and had an assist; had some other nice passes too. Active in all zones, contests for the puck in deep and along the boards. Had 62-21-25-46 at Halifax last year, with his good energy and some more scoring could get consideration in 2026 draft. Kilfoil was at the Detroit NHL camp and just returned, also he will play at Northeastern starting in 2027.

      Oleg Kulebyakin Halifax Mooseheads 11-Jan-08 5-10 170 LHRW (2026 eligible)
      Kulebyakin is new to the QMJHL, he is not large but is very active and has a nose for the net. Reads the play well and is dangerous on offense, had a back door goal early and several chances throughout the game. Plays on the left on the power play, and sometimes plays as a LHRW. Had a nice defensive breakup on a 2-on-1 rush late in the game. Showed talent last year with 33-33-39-72 in 16U AAA. Not ranked right now, but could jump up into the rankings for the 2026 draft.

      Olivier Groulx Saint John Sea Dogs 25-Jul-07 6-2 192 LC (Undrafted 2025)
      Groulx has the size to play the physical game and is a well-rounded player. Carries well and can make good passes; had an assist in this game and plays up high to distribute on the power play. Was passed over in the 2025 draft after 64-17-24-41 at SJ last year at Halifax. Has shown leadership and wore an “A” last year. If scoring and physical play stand out more, could work his way into the 2026 draft.

      Olivers Murnieks Saint John Sea Dogs 31-Jul-08 6-1 194 LC (2026 eligible, Wiz #45)
      Murkieks has good size and showed speed and agility in the game. Plays the wing on the power play. Was able to get some chances and hit the post on one rush, stole the puck in the offensive zone and got a shot chance but it was tipped away. Won 10 of 17 faceoffs, and was a threat in the game although not denting the score sheet. Ranked in the second round for the 2026 draft and his raw tools show why. 52-15-20-35 for Sioux City USHL last year and played well for Latvia in international play. 5 assists in 4 game so far this year.

      Dylan Rozzi Saint John Sea Dogs 8-Mar-08 5-11 174 LW (2026 eligible. Wiz #156)
      Rozzi had a goal close in and was dangerous on the power play. Is able to carry the puck in the zone and maneuver well. Had a shot block on defense. Has added some weight this year and may be able to use that as the season goes on. Had 62-14-20-34 last year in Saint John, and 4 points in 4 games so far this year. Looks to be in the mid rounds for the 2026 draft.

      William Yared Saint John Sea Dogs 21-Jan-08 6-2 190 RC (2026 eligible)
      A player with nice size and a consistent game. Did not notice any outstanding plays, but at the end of the night had a goal and 2 assists. Played down low on the power play and scored. Not ranked for 2026 but with more good games like this could easily find a 2026 draft slot.

      Cameron Chartrand Saint John Sea Dogs 3-Mar-08 6-0 204 RD (2026 eligible, Wiz #47)
      Good sized, thick RD who showed well on defense tonight. Has a good point shot that he can get through to the goal. Seems mobile and able to move well side-to-side on defense. Skills show why he could go fairly high in the 2026 draft.

      2027 Eligibles:
      Alexis Joseph Saint John Sea Dogs 16-Jun-09 6-4 201 LC

      Joseph was a #1 pick in the QMJHL entry draft. New to the league, good size, active, had a hat trick in this game, good on the attack. Someone to watch for 2027.

      Malik L’Italien Halifax Mooseheads 10-Jun-09 6-3 187 LD
      A high pick in the QMJHL draft, was very active and showed well on both offense and defense. Had an impressive end-to-end rush for a shot, good on offense, mobile on defense. 2027 eligible.

      Notes log: hockeystew25.blogspot.com/

    • #38276
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Wow! I seen some strange hockey plays but never one that the hawks were on the better side of.

      Oliie Moore finished with a defender and ‘tender in front of him.

      He scored before Blues #55, slow on the glove drop could cause a stoppage of play?

      It’s difficult to say the zebras were shy with their decision. The puck was in play in an attack zone, so They were cautious.

      What say you?

      Good goal, and a nice snipe, Moore is so fast, he beat the fight!

    • #38277
      LAHawk
      Participant

      Wow! I seen some strange hockey plays but never one that the hawks were on the better side of.

      Oliie Moore finished with a defender and ‘tender in front of him.

      He scored before Blues #55, slow on the glove drop could cause a stoppage of play?

      It’s difficult to say the zebras were shy with their decision. The puck was in play in an attack zone, so They were cautious.

      What say you?

      I guess in pre-season it is a good goal. In post season (Hjalmasson 7th game) not so much

    • #38281
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Wow! I seen some strange hockey plays but never one that the hawks were on the better side of.

      Oliie Moore finished with a defender and ‘tender in front of him.

      He scored before Blues #55, slow on the glove drop could cause a stoppage of play?

      It’s difficult to say the zebras were shy with their decision. The puck was in play in an attack zone, so They were cautious.

      What say you?

      One that was a beauty of a goal, two I’ve always felt if the opponent instigates a fight when you have a chance at a breakaway it should count if it goes in.

    • #38286
      totem
      Participant

      Nathan Behm is back in Kamloops and had 2 goals last night and 1G 1A so far tonight. He is going to benefit a lot from playing on a line with RW JP Hurlbert who is highly ranked (mid 2nd round) for the 2026 draft and then going to Michigan next fall. Hurlbert has 3G and 2A with 17 shots in the last 2 nights. Behm had a really nice pass on the power play but the shooter hit the post. He also has a bunch of hard shots on goal tonight and triggered a nice breakaway and got an assist.

      Kamloops RW Ty Bonkowski is a candidate for a late pick in 2026 but has 2G 1A in these two games. Kamloops G Logan Edmonstone (2026 eligible) has had a really good game (shutout) also. Still think Seattle G Sklenicka has some potential although he has given up some goals, still has a good save percentage.

      Kamloops comes to Seattle next weekend and I am looking forward to seeing these guys in person.

    • #38298
      wizardofi
      Participant

      It’s looking like Behm may be this year’s Lardis. If Behm gets into the 50+ goal mark, it’s a success.

    • #38308
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Thanks Coach!

      Frondell had a nice tip for a goal as well!

      Edit: tried to reply to Cach Frenchy’s welcome post..donno what’s going on..doesn’t matter. I guess I’ll figure it out

    • #38310
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Hello to all
      Signed up a little while ago
      Haven’t posted yet
      Used to be CaptainSerious at HockeyBuzz

      Been hanging around a bit at blackhawksbuzz
      Nice to have 2 spots to talk Hocks witht the season starting soon.

      Kantserov scored another goal today and Frondell’a Djurgarden should start in about 2 hours.

      All eyes on Korch and Allan tonight?

      Hey Capn, your posts are always solid. Glad you made your way over………….. The lineups out? Always wanna see Allan, I’m a fan, but really wanna see Spellacy most and Lardis too. IMO there’s gonna be a time where Gavin Hayes nudges his way into the conversation…. Kid cruises with his head up, has the shot to score while he creates in a smooth manner.

      Hey hey Rico
      Nice to see you are still around!
      How did the young gun Korch look last night?

      Read quite a few posts that Moore looked good(not just because of the goal).

      Greene killed it at the dot last night,not sure how his play was outside of that

    • #38316
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Anybody read Ben Pope’s arricle in the suntimes about the changes Blashill is making?

      I didn’t get this part:

      Other systems
      The Hawks’ neutral-zone trap remains similar to the 1-1-3 system Sorensen installed last winter, albeit with slightly more aggressiveness involved.

      A 1-1-3 trap involves one forward (the “F1″) pressuring the breakout, a second forward supporting him and three Hawks guarding the blue line. If there’s a contested puck, it can morph into more of a 2-1-2.

      The Hawks’ defensive-zone breakouts after dump-ins by the opposition will look different. Instead of both defensemen skating below the goal line, one will hold above the net and wait for the puck-retrieving defenseman to either wheel around the net or reverse direction.

      The retriever won’t have the option of a “D-to-D” pass, but he should also encounter less forechecking pressure.

      Why remove the option of a D 2 D pass?
      So the retreiver has to skate the puck out himself,or ring it around out of the zone or find a forward to pass to?

      • #38341
        Angotti
        Participant

        All good points captain, however the Hawks have had issues exiting their zone for quite a few years now. They currently have a bit more mobile defense, maybe it will improve their breakouts, we shall see.

    • #38336
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I just gotta say watching last night’s game Misiak reminds me a lot of Teuvo when he’s on the ice?

    • #38345
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      All good points captain, however the Hawks have had issues exiting their zone for quite a few years now. They currently have a bit more mobile defense, maybe it will improve their breakouts, we shall see.

      ……………….

      For me Lou, breakouts are the hardest thing to do in hockey. The players have never been faster or bigger giving them tremendous defending range and cram all that into one about 1/3 of the ice surface and getting pucks out is really tough. If you can’t there will be chaos in your zone all night but if you can you trigger the whole thing, cuz that’s where the flow will start, and you can play with speed/pace/skill.

      No matter how good a Dman is tough he has to have options and it’s the forwards who give him that, no matter the system. It really is a 5 man exercise but that Dman has to take the best option for it to work.

    • #38346
      Assman22
      Participant

      It’s looking like Behm may be this year’s Lardis. If Behm gets into the 50+ goal mark, it’s a success.

      Behm started hot last year with 22 points in the first 13 games and was projected for late 1st round in mocks during Nov/Dec because of the start. His compete was said to have fallen off as the season dragged on for the low scoring lousy Kamloops team he was on. If he keeps pushing the whole season, he could likely push for 100+ pts.

    • #38350
      Assman22
      Participant

      Why remove the option of a D 2 D pass?
      So the retreiver has to skate the puck out himself,or ring it around out of the zone or find a forward to pass to?

      Correct. No D2D below the dots and it’s to avoid a lateral/semi-lateral pass which helps the forecheck.

    • #38351
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Can anyone tell me what Happened to the Lardis 1 timer on the PP late in the period? .. Was it on goal, did it go wide behind the net?…… You can see that kid is good at finding quiet ice and lurks on the weakside. Combined with the best 1 timer in the organIzation when his time comes he’s gonna score some PP goals for the club.

      Hayes is making some plays. Always liked what he brings. Misiak is in on a lotta stuff, especially below the dots in the Ozone. … My guy Crevier had a couple shifts he’d like back in the 1st. Allan has had some nice reads/pinches. KK too on his reads. No doubting the skill in his hands and feet.. Dach with a couple decent shifts. ……. I like Gryz, a lot for this roster. He’s a savvy vet who can settle things down… A whole yr of Knight is gonna be a treat. His technical game, and demeanor too, is tremendous.

      I don’t know, Chunk. I like what I see tonight, much more than Game 1 v DET. More flow, more connected passes, more structure. Couple solid 1-2 pass outs. .. Guessing the fancies will be much better.

      Lardis’ stick broke on the one-timer.

      After an iffy first period, and first five minutes of the second everyone seemed to come around. The kids need to make sure they are playing faster. A lot of them still are trying to figure out where to go with the puck before they move and it slows them down.

      As long as he stays healthy, Hayes should have a much better year in RFD. I think Misiak is going to be a good two-way forward.

      ………….

      Hey Chunk, before I forget one of the best things I read this offseason was that you have a FloSports subscription and they’re showing the SHL. I know you’ll watch Frondell and look forward to your posts on what you see. Especially his usage……..

      Watched a bunch of Lardis games last yr and this kid is outright deadly on the weakside 1 timer. His reads are so damn good if he detects a goalie is coming hells bells outa control on his push to stop the one timer he knows the goalie is gonna over slide and he shoots the puck BACK to the far side as the goalie slides outa the crease. How often you see a player go far side, on purpose, on a 1 timer. Very rare but Lardis does it a lot….. And the kid many more times than not he gets great wood on the puck and is really adept at doing so when the damn thing is bouncing on him and it doesn’t have to be in his wheelhouse either. But anyone can see how quick he gets it off and how accurate the thing is….. His reads are good, he finds soft ice even at 5 on 5 to unleash that 1 timer.

      Keep an eye on that Hayes kid. In a couple yrs I see him helping and if he continues developing I could see him having a lotta trust of his coaches and see middle 6 minutes. High IQ player and really poised. Watch him in the Dzone. He’s good at reading, getting in lanes and deflecting pucks. He just makes plays in all 3 zones and has always showed poise to my eye. ……… I know folks are saying he must grind to be a big leaguer but that isn’t his game. Not that he can’t evolve into that kinda role but he’s a cerebral type, good reads, poised, some skill in his hands, smooth and finds soft ice well. Much like he read the play in the conrner and high tailed thru the slot to be there for the beauty feed he scored on. … That play encapsulates the kid.

      And, I forgot to mention Del Mastro. Kid was back to his game with good reads, angles and gaps. Using his size … Really good game for the kid.

    • #38360
      Haru
      Participant

      All good points captain, however the Hawks have had issues exiting their zone for quite a few years now. They currently have a bit more mobile defense, maybe it will improve their breakouts, we shall see.

      I agree. In years past d-men would just hold the puck waiting for things to happen and resort to a d to d pass or a “hoister”. These young guys are very mobile so why not use that to their advantage.

      I just gotta say watching last night’s game Misiak reminds me a lot of Teuvo when he’s on the ice?

      Reminds me of Michael Frolik, good forechecker. I’ve noticed a few times on the dump-ins, when the camera pans down to the other end Misiak is already closed to the other team’s d-man. Hopefully he continues to grow and eventually make it.

    • #38366
      Chunk
      Participant

      Hey Rico. I tried quoting you, but it got lost in the ether. Regarding del Mastro.

      I must be seeing something different. I really like del Mastro, but I’ve seen a very tentative and unsure player in the games he’s played. He’s made some good plays for sure, but he’s been slow on passes and decisions. He worked so hard in Rockford to make quick decisions and drive the puck the other way, it’s been kind of disappointing to see him tentative. Looks like he’s getting this game off along with Murphy.

      Pretty much the expected starting lineup playing tonight aside from the Dickinson/Lafferty/Mikheyev line. Lardis, Spellacy, and Savoie playing tonight (not sure on what lines).

    • #38389
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Hey Rico. I tried quoting you, but it got lost in the ether. Regarding del Mastro.

      I must be seeing something different. I really like del Mastro, but I’ve seen a very tentative and unsure player in the games he’s played. He’s made some good plays for sure, but he’s been slow on passes and decisions. He worked so hard in Rockford to make quick decisions and drive the puck the other way, it’s been kind of disappointing to see him tentative. Looks like he’s getting this game off along with Murphy.

      Pretty much the expected starting lineup playing tonight aside from the Dickinson/Lafferty/Mikheyev line. Lardis, Spellacy, and Savoie playing tonight (not sure on what lines).

      Agree, thought he looked tentative in the time that i saw, which was only the 3rd. Was thinking with the team speed increasing, maybe he just looks slow, as he is in comparison.

    • #38393
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey Rico. I tried quoting you, but it got lost in the ether. Regarding del Mastro.

      I must be seeing something different. I really like del Mastro, but I’ve seen a very tentative and unsure player in the games he’s played. He’s made some good plays for sure, but he’s been slow on passes and decisions. He worked so hard in Rockford to make quick decisions and drive the puck the other way, it’s been kind of disappointing to see him tentative. Looks like he’s getting this game off along with Murphy.

      Pretty much the expected starting lineup playing tonight aside from the Dickinson/Lafferty/Mikheyev line. Lardis, Spellacy, and Savoie playing tonight (not sure on what lines).

      ……………….

      Chunk, what are your expectations for Del Mastro? Mine aren’t high relatively speaking and pts are at the very bottom of the list…… I see a guy who is a balanced enough skater to turn and with his length/weight keep a guy to the outside enough. Balanced enough skater to change an angle. A guy who understands his role and is bought into a smaller role in that his priority is to take care of business inside the dots, the slot and the endwall. And use his size in doing so……. Yes, a nice head up first pass and quick decisions are nice but IMO his simple role doesn’t hinge on that. …..

      Really for me, I think a defense needs guys like this and Del Mastro has knocked down every wall along the way. You remember his Canadian WJC story of not getting an invite to replacing an injured guy to taking the big hard minutes on a Gold winning squad…… His simplicity is the beauty of his game for me.

    • #38402
      Chunk
      Participant

      Hey Rico. I tried quoting you, but it got lost in the ether. Regarding del Mastro.

      I must be seeing something different. I really like del Mastro, but I’ve seen a very tentative and unsure player in the games he’s played. He’s made some good plays for sure, but he’s been slow on passes and decisions. He worked so hard in Rockford to make quick decisions and drive the puck the other way, it’s been kind of disappointing to see him tentative. Looks like he’s getting this game off along with Murphy.

      Pretty much the expected starting lineup playing tonight aside from the Dickinson/Lafferty/Mikheyev line. Lardis, Spellacy, and Savoie playing tonight (not sure on what lines).

      ……………….

      Chunk, what are your expectations for Del Mastro? Mine aren’t high relatively speaking and pts are at the very bottom of the list…… I see a guy who is a balanced enough skater to turn and with his length/weight keep a guy to the outside enough. Balanced enough skater to change an angle. A guy who understands his role and is bought into a smaller role in that his priority is to take care of business inside the dots, the slot and the endwall. And use his size in doing so……. Yes, a nice head up first pass and quick decisions are nice but IMO his simple role doesn’t hinge on that. …..

      Really for me, I think a defense needs guys like this and Del Mastro has knocked down every wall along the way. You remember his Canadian WJC story of not getting an invite to replacing an injured guy to taking the big hard minutes on a Gold winning squad…… His simplicity is the beauty of his game for me.

      I’m not concerned about points either. I want him to be the defenseman I’ve seen him be in RFD where he knows where he’s going with the puck as soon as (or sometimes before) he has it. He’s just been inconsistent to my eye when I watched him in preseason. Maybe he put pressure on himself being with Rinzel, but while he did have good moments last night (the blocked shots for sure), His consistency wasn’t there, and some of his decisions ended up getting the team stuck in their zone.

      • #38417
        Angotti
        Participant

        Not sure if you guys noticed, but EDM played over 23 minutes last night, and I don’t have the stats but he seemed to be on the ice every time Thomas was on the ice. He was also a +2, however I know the plus/minus could be a skewed stat, unless you’re Bobby Orr and end up the year at something like +127…

      • #38549
        LAHawk
        Participant

        Kaiser with a strong game.

    • #38427
      Angotti
      Participant

      Here’s tonight’s actual lineup.
      Chicago Blackhawks

      Ryan Donato — Connor Bedard — André Burakovsky
      Teuvo Teräväinen — Frank Nazar — Tyler Bertuzzi
      Oliver Moore — Ryan Greene — Nick Lardis
      Samuel Savoie — Nick Foligno — AJ Spellacy

      Alex Vlasic — Sam Rinzel
      Wyatt Kaiser — Artyom Levshunov
      Kevin Korchinski — Nolan Allan
      Ashton Cumby

      Drew Commesso (starter)
      Arvid Söderblom

    • #38432
      Angotti
      Participant

      Substitute Mikheyev, Dach, and Reichel for Lardis, Savoiee, and Spellacy and the forward group is ready to go. Add Murphy and EDM on the backend for KK and Allan and rock and roll on 10/7 against the Panthers.

    • #38453
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Hey Rico. I tried quoting you, but it got lost in the ether. Regarding del Mastro.

      I must be seeing something different. I really like del Mastro, but I’ve seen a very tentative and unsure player in the games he’s played. He’s made some good plays for sure, but he’s been slow on passes and decisions. He worked so hard in Rockford to make quick decisions and drive the puck the other way, it’s been kind of disappointing to see him tentative. Looks like he’s getting this game off along with Murphy.

      Pretty much the expected starting lineup playing tonight aside from the Dickinson/Lafferty/Mikheyev line. Lardis, Spellacy, and Savoie playing tonight (not sure on what lines).

      He definitely got caught out of position and was exposed a few times pretty badly in that last game. IMO he is only kind of average mobility and quickness so it’s gonna be more about that decision making and experience to help him avoid the pitfalls.

    • #38493
      Metalhead
      Participant

      MH, like rpete I have trouble with the quote and too many times my post was flushed. I’m trying to figure out the funk here and avoid the quote most times. And when you don’t quote too often things get lost in translation. ….. A page ago you asked what a deal for KK might bring back. That is what I was answering……

      Gotcha. I do get a bit confused myself, esp. when I’m replying to posts from a couple pages earlier.

      ????

    • #38500
      Metalhead
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

    • #38511
      Chunk
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

      In my best Q voice: Fine

    • #38521
      wizardofi
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

      To be honest, I never noticed him.

    • #38544
      Metalhead
      Participant

      To be honest, I never noticed him.

      That’s possibly his exact job if he makes the team.

    • #38545
      Angotti
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

      To be honest, I never noticed him.

      If you don’t notice Grzelcyk, that’s a good thing, because I’m not a fan of his defensive game.

    • #38546
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I didn’t see Vlasic on the ice in the 3rd, is he okay?

    • #38548
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

      ……………..

      He looked like he always did and what I hoped he’d look like. Gryz showed mobility, the poise of a vet you’d hope for with this young defensive group…… …. He was what you’d hope Megna or Martinez would have looked.

      The fancies ain’t too too bad but I liked the D tonight. Artie played well and had his 45% corsi lead the defense. KK had poor fancies but my eye saw a kid maturing physically. ….. No doubt though, IMO Gryz will skate 20 minutes a night for the club.

      Really liked the jump Bedard had, a lot. He was hungry and engaged and as the game went on I thought the kid is quiet in a good way. He, and all the top 6, had nice fancies. 54 corsi, 57 fenwick, 9-3 SOG advantage, 4-3 HDCF. Nice night for the kid, very nice. ……. 2 games in a row I like what I saw. How long until MN got a SOG, 10 minutes? The structure was good again and I do realize MN sat at least 4 of their top 6 from what I counted off the top of my head. Regardless, this is 2 games in a row where they showed some danger, didn’t get hemmed in, were connected, acceptable structure and a group that seems like it’s getting the coaching.

      For those unsure of Burakovsky you can see the skill and speed this player has. If he’s healthy and has some chemistry with Bedard he’ll be a legit skilled add. Nothing outa Spellacy and Foligno was bad. I hope this ain’t the cliff older players face as they hang on too long.

    • #38550
      Haru
      Participant

      I didn’t see Vlasic on the ice in the 3rd, is he okay?

      Pang and Ball said he was hurt on a play at the far boards. He waved towards the bench for a sub as he skated off. Hopefully it’s only for precautionary reasons.

    • #38552
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I didn’t see Vlasic on the ice in the 3rd, is he okay?

      Pang and Ball said he was hurt on a play at the far boards. He waved towards the bench for a sub as he skated off. Hopefully it’s only for precautionary reasons.

      Thanks, hopefully

      I agree LA Kaiser looked good Arty was better, i really like Moore, think Lardis will go to the Rock but if he keeps making the effort he is hell be up here sometime this season.

    • #38564
      Metalhead
      Participant

      No doubt though, IMO Gryz will skate 20 minutes a night for the club.

      Thanks for the info. I have no problem with Gryz making the team.

      ——Nothing outa Spellacy and Foligno was bad

      Spellacy is very intriguing but considering how raw of a prospect, it would be crazy to expect him
      to get a real NHL chance until 3 years after being drafted.
      Any sooner would be awesome, but not realistic.

      Foligno was noticeably worse last year than the year before.
      I think “old man degradation cliff” might be exactly what we’re seeing.

    • #38567
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Alex Vlasic is day to day with a lower-body injury and will be reevaluated in the coming days, per the team

    • #38576
      totem
      Participant

      Sunday, September 28, 2025 – Barrie at Owen Sound

      Joseph Salandra Barrie Colts 15-Feb-08 5-10 190 RW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #67)
      Salandra got some notice with a nice showing (5-1-2-3) at the Hlinka-Gretzky Cup this year. He is new to the OHL after having scored over 2 points per game in US high school last year. Got an assist and played on the power play during the game; had 4 SOG. Also took a hooking penalty to stop a rush. Has a good all-around game with decent speed; his potential has him ranked in the early to mid rounds for the 2026 draft. Will need to keep showing his scoring touch during the season to find a higher draft slot.

      Jaiden Newton Barrie Colts 13-Oct-07 5-11 181 LC (2026 Eligible, Wiz #173)
      Newton played an aggressive offensive game and wired a hard shot over the goalie’s shoulder on the glove side for a goal. In on the forecheck all night. Not huge but plays bigger than he is. Will need to show defense and physical play over the season to ensure a spot in the 2026 draft. Goal and 3 shots, also had 7 PIM in a penalty filled game. 62-3-9-12 last year in Barrie.

      Nicholas Desiderio Barrie Colts 16-Jun-08 6-1 187 LW (2026 Eligible)
      Winger with good size who was very active. Had one shot but it was a low hard shot that required a good stop. Had a nice interception to start a scoring opportunity. Played some on the power play. New to OHL, good scorer in 16U AAA last year. Will need to develop quickly to get draft consideration in 2026.

      Nicolas Sykora Owen Sound Attack 24-May-07 6-0 179 LW (Undrafted 2025)
      Sykora is the son of Petr Sykora, who played 1017 games in the NHL. Nicolas shows a lot of offensive talent; he had a goal on a back door play, a nice end-to-end rush on the power play, and a breakaway chance and some other offensive opportunities. Goal and assist with 5 shots for the game. He has mobility and shows good elusiveness and puck handling. Very developed offensive game but is also active all over the ice and reads the play well. New to the OHL after spending last year in the USHL. Dropped through the draft last year but if he continues to play a similar game through the season, he will definitely get draft consideration for 2026. Heading to Quinnipiac in the fall of 2026.

      Pierce Mbuyi Owen Sound Attack 17-Apr-08 5-11 158 LW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #56)
      Very reedy but fast player who is always around the puck. Despite his size he is usually around the crease on offense and is always dangerous. Speed, agility, and reading the play have him ranked high for the 2026 draft.Had a goal and 5 PIM in the game. Had 63-29-23-52 in Owen Sound last year, is wearing an “A” this year. Heading to Penn State in the fall of 2026.

      Cole Zurawski Owen Sound Attack 6-Feb-08 6-0 181 RW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #133)
      Good sized winger who also plays on the power play. Played in the OHL last year and came over to Owen Sound from Flint, had 61-15-16-31. Had a quiet game with 1 shot on goal, and left in the 3rd with a shoulder injury.

      2027 Eligible:
      Max Delisle Owen Sound Attack 6-Jul-09 6-1 184 RC

      Adjusting quickly to the OHL; showed speed and had several chances on offense. Was a high pick in the OHL entry draft and will be someone to watch for 2027.

      Notes log: hockeystew25.blogspot.com/

    • #38577
      LAHawk
      Participant

      How did Gryz look yesterday?

      Better than Brodie.

    • #38604
      35Tony0
      Participant

      Alex Vlasic is day to day with a lower-body injury and will be reevaluated in the coming days, per the team

      Darn, let’s hope it turns out to be a minimal setback for Vlasic.

    • #38615
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I tell you in a rebuild i think it’s great Kaiser is looking like a solid defenseman,

      I think if you can make Murphy a 5th dmen on your team then you are in good shape. We’ll see if Kaiser will be able to continue to play well through the preseason and during the season. This also allows the franchise to send Korchinski to Rockford for more seasoning, win win.

      What i saw from Arty he looked good last night so we’ll see.

      And if Nazar and the 2nd line can produce i expect Bedard to get to the next level in point production. This is shaping up into an interesting season, so long as Vlasic is healthy come opening day.

    • #38618
      Assman22
      Participant

      I tell you in a rebuild i think it’s great Kaiser is looking like a solid defenseman,

      I think if you can make Murphy a 5th dmen on your team then you are in good shape. We’ll see if Kaiser will be able to continue to play well through the preseason and during the season. This also allows the franchise to send Korchinski to Rockford for more seasoning, win win.

      What i saw from Arty he looked good last night so we’ll see.

      Agreed on all this and you know who’s had a really great camp and completely deserves an NHL spot? Allan. Guy does whatever he’s told and has been hitting everything in site the past two games and rarely makes a mistake. He’s often an afterthought and is likely going to get sent back to Rockford to pair with KK to help him develop. Allan is infinitely better than Crevier ever will be.

    • #38619
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      The Blackhawks have sent these players to the IceHogs:

      Drew Commesso
      Nick Lardis
      Ashton Cumby
      Samuel Savoie
      Aidan Thompson
      Mitchell Weeks

      They have sent AJ Spellacy back to the Windsor Spitfires in the OHL

      31 players remain in training camp

    • #38623
      Metalhead
      Participant

      The Blackhawks have sent these players to the IceHogs:

      They have sent AJ Spellacy back to the Windsor Spitfires in the OHL

      Thanks for the info. No surprises.
      I’m interested to see if Commesso can go from “looking very good” in the AHL to “looking too good” for the AHL.

    • #38625
      Assman22
      Participant

      Thanks for the info. No surprises.
      I’m interested to see if Commesso can go from “looking very good” in the AHL to “looking too good” for the AHL.

      I’m interested to see if Toninato makes it through waivers. Misiak is the only natural RW on Rockford pending what happens with Moore as Anderson is likely out for awhile. Next question is who centers Lardis?

    • #38637
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m interested to see if Toninato makes it through waivers.

      31 years old, less than 200 career NHL games, and only 25 NHL games in the last 3 seasons screams
      “makes it through waivers” but you never know for sure.

    • #38662

      Alex Vlasic is day to day with a lower-body injury and will be reevaluated in the coming days, per the team

      Hopefully not the dreaded AA groin injury.

    • #38687
      Chunk
      Participant

      I’m interested to see if Toninato makes it through waivers.

      31 years old, less than 200 career NHL games, and only 25 NHL games in the last 3 seasons screams
      “makes it through waivers” but you never know for sure.

      One of the scribes posted that he cleared and is going to RFD.

    • #38688
      Chunk
      Participant

      Alex Vlasic is day to day with a lower-body injury and will be reevaluated in the coming days, per the team

      Hopefully not the dreaded AA groin injury.

      There’s a lot of speculation that he got cut with a skate blade. If not that, I’d say Knee/Ankle injury looking at the replay of when he got injured.

    • #38716
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Next page

      • #38737
        boilermaker
        Participant

        This thing back up? Per their Facebook page HHS is migrating from a shared server to a dedicated server. Traffic capacity and database needs to be increased. Looks like we lost some of the September 30 posts.

    • #38743
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The Wings structure is really good. They look so much like the Bolts style of play. Constantly on the right side of the puck with support

      Can Dach play like this all season? He looks great

    • #38746

      This thing back up? Per their Facebook page HHS is migrating from a shared server to a dedicated server. Traffic capacity and database needs to be increased. Looks like we lost some of the September 30 posts.

      Our Chicago group crashed it.

    • #38809
      popsghostly
      Participant

      No comments about the game? I still am cableless and watch the games via the App on my iPhone. The Detroit goals came when I was eating dinner so didn’t see their quality. The Hawks looked decent offensively but couldn’t capitalize on chances- especially the PP. Good puck movement though.

    • #38820
      Breagbag
      Participant

      The Detroit goals were basically.

      1) Bad turnover with Bedard carrying the puck over the attacking blueline followed up by a bad pinch by Murphy which resulted in odd man rush against. It was a couple mistakes that you don’t want to see come regular season and the two Hawks back EDM and Burakovsky were in a tough spot, but also didn’t manage to do much either.

      2) Breakdown of coverage left a Redwing wide open in the slot as they moved the puck around and behind the net.

      3) End of a powerplay and Rinzel got outworked by a fresh Redwing just on the ice (I believe he came out of the box) as he stripped Rinzel of the puck and set up a goal on the rush.

      All in all, the Hawks are still adjusting to the new scheme but we are seeing the odd rookie mistakes or mental errors. Overall, it’s only 4 games in the preseason (small small sample) but they are still playing like a bottom 5 defensive team. (so far) I’m curious to see how they are playing after the first 15 games or so.

      • #38854
        BetweenTheDots
        Participant

        Greene surprises me of how strong he is on his skates

        Dach keeps his play up he’ll replace Bertuzzi on the top line

    • #38824
      Breagbag
      Participant

      IMO it’s shaping up that we’ll see both Greene and Moore sent down. I think Joey Anderson will get sent down through waivers once healthy. I think Slaggert will get slotted in on line 3 and Lafferty on line 4. Reichel will probably stick around unless traded or injury gets him back in or he gets a shot in the lineup.

      To me, they still have Bertuzzi in the top 6 when he isn’t playing up (last season) to the level of a top 6 guy. Plays small for his size and unless he is fed backdoor goals by more skilled players, doesn’t accomplish much. If he doesn’t improve I hope they send him a message by moving him down the lineup and giving someone else his spot in the top 6.

    • #38861

      Reichel needs to get in a fight. Even if it’s somebody on his own team.

    • #38863
      Chunk
      Participant

      Reichel needs to get in a fight. Even if it’s somebody on his own team.

      All the smoke is around him getting traded before the start of the regular season. There just doesn’t seem to be a spot for him. He’s not really good enough to play on a top 6 line and he doesn’t have the tools to really play bottom six.

    • #38904
      Angotti
      Participant

      Had to comment to see updated posts. If Reichel is traded, I hope it’s in a packaged deal. I’d hate to see him go for a 5th round pick.

    • #38916

      Had to comment to see updated posts. If Reichel is traded, I hope it’s in a packaged deal. I’d hate to see him go for a 5th round pick.

      I’d rather waive him than trade him for a 5th.

    • #38947
      totem
      Participant

      Edmonton 4, Regina 3 (WHL) – prospect notes

      Lukas Sawchyn Edmonton Oil Kings 27-Feb-07 5-10 174 RHLW (Undrafted 2025)
      Active forward who is always in the play similar to older brother Gracyn who is now in the FLA organization. Uses speed and agility to get the puck and carry it in on offense. Excellent passer as shown by 66-15-40-55 line in Edmonton last year. Had one assist on the night. Had a breakaway on 4×4 but missed the net. Willing to go into the corners to contest the puck against larger players. Always on the move; lost the puck in the offensive zone but recovered it before it was moved out. Undrafted last year and will need to score more to get some 2026 draft consideration, and will have to add some bulk for higher leagues.

      Ethan Mackenzie Edmonton Oil Kings 2-Sep-06 6-1 189 LD (Undrafted 2025)
      Good sized defenseman who can make some good defensive plays. Was 54-5-27-32 Edmonton last year and dropped through the draft. Took penalties for charging, check to head, and embellishment. Has some skill carrying in the offensive zone. From this game it appears that he will need to play more under control and add some scoring to get draft consideration.

      Poul Andersen Edmonton Oil Kings 1-Jun-07 6-1 186 RW (Undrafted 2025)
      Winger with good size and speed who is new to the WHL after 51-29-30-59 in BCHL last year, and was not drafted. Goes to the front of the net looking for scoring chances. Heading to U. of Maine in the fall of 2026. Will need to gain playing time in Edmonton and then do weil in the NCAA to gain some interest from NHL teams.

      Andrew O’Neill Edmonton Oil Kings 7-Feb-07 6-2 194 RC (Undrafted 2025)
      Another player new to the WHL; had 59-5-10-15 in NTDP U18 last year, and is going to North Dakota in 2027-28. Big center who uses his size to control the puck and move it into the offensive zone. Surprised the goalie with a shot from the corner and scored. Had an opportunity close in on the power play. A big year in the WHL could help him to be noticed.

      Joe Iginla Edmonton Oil Kings 13-Aug-08 5-10 174 RW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #79)
      Son of Jarome and brother of Tij, Joe Iginla is finding his way in the WHL. Was 61-9-7-16 in Edmonton last year, and is expected to be drafted in the mid rounds in 2026. Smaller player but speedy and agile, can carry on the rush, passes well, and is willing to contest for the puck. Expect improvement all year generating interest for the 2026 draft.

      Alofa Tunoa (Noa) Ta’amu Edmonton Oil Kings 28-May-08 6-2 237 LD (2026 Eligible, Wiz #162)
      Tall and heavy defenseman who as expected uses the body well and looks for the big hit. However, he is agile and has decent speed for his size. Carried the puck well, and pinched on occasion. Some real upside is possible as he learns to adjust at higher levels. 43-1-5-6 Edmonton last year, currently ranked later in 2026 draft, could make a jump is constant improvement is shown.

      Parker Snell Edmonton Oil Kings 21-Apr-08 6-2 176 LG (2026 Eligible, Wiz #207)
      Solid and good technical goalie that stays calm and square to the shooter. Had a number of good saves as Edmonton was pressing in the 2nd period. Gave up 3 goals but all were close in and difficult to stop. New to WHL and record was 20-3.19-0.922 in U18 prep (CSSHL) last year. Steady performance could earn him a draft slot in 2026.

      Julien Maze Regina Pats 7-Dec-07 5-10 170 LW (2026 Eligible, Wiz #177)
      Slick and evasive smaller forward who is fast and able to control the puck. Had a partial breakaway and hit the crossbar on the shot. Had a goal in front on pass from behind net; passing is good also, always looking for the cross-ice pass to put the goalie out of position. Took a 10 minute misconduct for a mouth guard violation. Needs to add some bulk without losing speed and agility; offensive skills alone should convince a team to draft him in 2026. 64-12-32-44 between Everett and Regina last year, 6 points in 4 games this season.

      Miroslav Holinka had to goals and looks like a good 5th round pick for TOR.
      2010 eligible Maddox Schultz played a fast and skilled game, and had one assist and several chances.

      Notes log: hockeystew25.blogspot.com/

    • #38993
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Frondell with a Michigan goal.

      https://x.com/SHLse/status/1973801861510541591

    • #38994
      Haru
      Participant

      Frondell with a Michigan goal.

      Beautiful!!! Now we have two guys that can do it in a game.

    • #39002
      Chunk
      Participant

      Frondell with a Michigan goal.

      Beautiful!!! Now we have two guys that can do it in a game.

      He had a nice quick shot to tie the game at 3-3 as well.

    • #39019
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Wow the Ducks signed LaCombe to a nice contract, amazing i guess things are changing in Anaheim, or they saw what Kaprizov signed for and were like we might want to offer guys fair deals a year prior they hit RFA contract.

    • #39025
      boilermaker
      Participant

      <Wow the Ducks signed LaCombe to a nice contract, amazing i guess things are changing in Anaheim, or they saw what Kaprizov signed for and were like we might want to offer guys fair deals a year prior they hit RFA contract.

      43 points for Lacombe last year. Lane Hutson with 66 points last season. He should get 10+M next year. What will Rinzel or Lev get if they put up decent numbers the next two years?

      • #39040
        BetweenTheDots
        Participant

        I’m thinking Rinzel is going to be in the same ballpark on points this season.

        They were saying Hughes contract influenced this deal.

    • #39041
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Oh yea i just gotta say it

      Go Cubs go

    • #39050
      wizardofi
      Participant

      What will Rinzel or Lev get if they put up decent numbers the next two years?

      Sportsnet was thinking Lev and Buium will be in the $10 Mil/season range

    • #39055
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      So, Comcast just put the Marquee Network (Cubs) on their premium package. It is time to find a new cable company

    • #39073
      Chunk
      Participant

      What will Rinzel or Lev get if they put up decent numbers the next two years?

      Sportsnet was thinking Lev and Buium will be in the $10 Mil/season range

      People were saying the same thing about KK for a bit, and he’ll be lucky to get $2M/yr on his next contract. Let’s let the season play out before getting too excited about what guys’ next contracts will be.

    • #39075
      Chunk
      Participant

      So, Comcast just put the Marquee Network (Cubs) on their premium package. It is time to find a new cable company

      With leagues and teams seeing how much money they can get by having these streaming services, it’s only going to get worse. I’m paying for the CHSN app, and that’s it. I’ve been using Hulu Live for about 7 years and I’m dumping that. They jacked it to about $95 per month after it started at about $45. I meed to finish setting things up, but T-Mobile has an offer where they include the basic levels of Netflix, AppleTV, and Hulu in their service. If it’s true, that’s all I’ll need by a long shot.

    • #39111

      Umm, not getting posts through again… Regarding MH’s link of Frondell: I see a lot of space looks like they’re lollygagging! Definitely not NHL or AHL hockey.

    • #39141
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Like many of you, I’m also impatient for the site to be back online. We’re currently waiting for the migration to be completed, and once everything is running again, I’ll be ready to post new articles about the team.

      In the meantime, I’ve been following all the news around the Blackhawks and reading your comments here in the forum. If you have any requests or questions, feel free to ask me directly here — I’ll do my best to provide updates during this downtime since we can’t post on the front page.

      It’s a big weekend ahead for the Blackhawks with some important decisions coming. Thanks for your patience — I wish I had better answers or updates, but this situation is out of my control. Hopefully, once the migration is finished, everything will be back to normal very soon.

      Frenchy

    • #39152
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Frenchy

      I found HockeyHotStove on Facebook and got the news about the migration to a new server. Enjoy the time off Frenchy. You’ve been working a lot the last few weeks and deserve some time down.

      Hope you get the chance to watch the Hawks tonight. If you do jump in here with some of your astute analysis.

      • #39155
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks a lot for the kind words, really appreciate it ? You’re right, it’s been busy the last few weeks, but hockey never stops for me! I’ll definitely keep an eye on the Hawks tonight and will share my thoughts here. Big weekend for decisions ahead — should be fun to follow.

    • #39154
      Assman22
      Participant

      So, Comcast just put the Marquee Network (Cubs) on their premium package. It is time to find a new cable company

      Keep comcast internet and get Fubo and Hulu.

    • #39162
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Looks like Allen had passed EDM on the depth he’ll be in tonight, wonder if he’ll be paired with Sam?

    • #39163
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It seems many are quick to trade our D prospects but that’s what i really like about our rebuild, no need to the cream will rise to the top in time.

    • #39164
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Here’s what I’ll be focusing on this weekend:
      1. Power Play – Can they find more consistency and finish?
      2. Ethan Del Mastro vs. Matt Grzelcyk – How does Del Mastro measure up against an established NHL defenseman?
      3. Colton Dach’s performance – consistency
      4. Greene vs. Moore – Battle for last spot
      5. Blashill’s system – How well are the players adapting to his structure?

    • #39166
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      1-0 NAZAR great gap control blue line following by a quick-up then 3vs2 with a great entry “OZ”

    • #39170
      Assman22
      Participant

      Does Bert seem really slow to anyone else? I know he’s typically a 2nd half player but he looks like Big Rig slow out there tonight.

    • #39171
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Here’s what I’ll be focusing on this weekend:
      1. Power Play – Can they find more consistency and finish?
      2. Ethan Del Mastro vs. Matt Grzelcyk – How does Del Mastro measure up against an established NHL defenseman?
      3. Colton Dach’s performance – consistency
      4. Greene vs. Moore – Battle for last spot
      5. Blashill’s system – How well are the players adapting to his structure?

      6. Can anyone teach the team to avoid excessive stupid penalties?

      update:
      I first typed this up at 2-1, posted it at 2-2, now reiterating the question at 2-3.
      Good Grief.

    • #39174
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      So how long is it going to take for this team to play fast as a group? 5 games 10 games 20….

    • #39187
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Because the site isn’t ready yet, I’ll share some Blackhawks updates here in the forum to keep everyone informed. Here are my thoughts about last night’s game — feel free to reply and share what you thought about their performance.

      BLACKHAWKS 2, WILD 3 — PENALTIES AND SPECIAL TEAMS TURN THE GAME AROUND

      The Chicago Blackhawks dropped a 3-2 decision to the Minnesota Wild in their second-to-last preseason game. Both teams dressed close to full NHL lineups, and the pace felt like a regular-season matchup from start to finish.

      First Period — Structure and Efficiency

      Chicago came out organized and opportunistic. Even though the Wild outshot them 10–5, the Hawks made their chances count. Frank Nazar opened the scoring with his fourth of the preseason, showing great patience and finish. A few minutes later, Nick Foligno redirected a Sam Rinzel point shot to make it 2–0.
      It wasn’t domination, but it was efficient hockey — good structure, clean transitions, and smart puck management.

      Second Period — Discipline Breaks Down

      The second period changed everything. Chicago lost its rhythm with too many penalties, and Minnesota made them pay. Vladimir Tarasenko, Matt Boldy, and Ryan Hartman all scored on the power play, turning a 2–0 lead into a 3–2 Wild advantage.

      The Hawks’ penalty kill never settled in — too many missed clears and coverage breakdowns. Their power play also failed to answer back, now 0-for-9 over the last two games. Momentum swung completely toward Minnesota, and Chicago spent most of the frame chasing the puck instead of dictating play.

      Third Period — A Strong Push, No Finish

      The third was Chicago’s best period. They controlled possession, outshot the Wild 15–4, and had multiple chances to tie it. Connor Bedard and Frank Nazar both created offense, but couldn’t finish. Bedard is doing everything right — moving, shooting, creating — the goals will come soon.

      Jason Dickinson centered a responsible and hard-working line with Landon Slaggert and Ilya Mikheyev, generating pressure and drawing a penalty. Colton Dach also had a solid game in limited minutes (10:53), showing strength and good reads.

      On defense, Nolan Allan logged around 15 minutes and added an assist, staying calm and simple with the puck. Levshunov continues to learn — he’ll make mistakes, but his confidence is growing. Wyatt Kaiser impressed again with his poise, and Sam Rinzel looks like a player who could force decisions soon. Matt Grzelcyk was fine overall, but it’s still unclear how Jeff Blashill plans to use him.

      The one big question is Sam Lafferty’s role. He played only 6:24 and didn’t get any penalty-kill time — the main reason Chicago brought him back. If he’s not going to be used on special teams, what’s his fit on this roster?

      Postgame Thoughts

      Jeff Blashill after the game:

      “I liked our first and third periods. The forecheck and O-zone were the best they’ve looked. We just took too many penalties. There are still some areas in the D-zone we need to clean up — we have to be stronger on pucks and break out cleaner.”

      Nick Foligno echoed the same message about discipline and system progress:

      “Because of the way we’re coached, it’s coming fast. The information is clear and direct. You can see we’re improving every game. We just can’t beat ourselves with penalties.”

      Coach Frenchy’s Take

      This wasn’t a bad game at all — Chicago was 2–0 at 5-on-5 and played the right way for long stretches. But discipline, special teams, and faceoffs under 40% were costly. If they stay out of the box and keep playing connected as five-man units, this team will start to win these kinds of games.

      The Hawks close the preseason tonight at home against the St. Louis Blues — puck drop at 6:00 PM CDT.

    • #39188
      Angotti
      Participant

      Thanks for the post game recap. I thought it was a good game as well, just need to stay out of the box. It will be interesting to see who they keep with the big club. I like what KD has done, however I don’t understand the Lafferty acquisition, unless they just want Moore/Greene to get more time in Rockford. In my opinion they are both ready and would love to see them on a line with Mikheyev.

    • #39189
      Assman22
      Participant

      I don’t understand the Lafferty acquisition, unless they just want Moore/Greene to get more time in Rockford.

      Think this was the plan all along regardless of how they did in camp. Dangle the carrot and make them hope/try their best, but ultimately Kyle was always going to send them to Rockford to pay their dues and earn their way. Lafferty may end up taking the torch from Foligno for the elder statesman role after this season.

    • #39192
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Blackhawks have recalled for today:
      Taige Harding
      Gavin Hayes
      Kevin Korchinski
      Paul Ludwinski
      Martin Mišiak
      Samuel Savoie
      Aidan Thompson
      Dominic Toninato

      As well as signing PTOs for today:
      Cavan Fitzgerald
      Brett Seney
      Mitchell Weeks

    • #39193
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Thanks Frenchy,

      For now i see the same issue I’ve seen since the rebuild. There’s just to much time and space all over the ice for the opponent. The other one is the lack of forwards with high hockey IQ who play in front of the goalie. Past 2 games they still are a perimeter team even on the PP i hope this changes in the regular season.

    • #39195
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant
    • #39197
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant
    • #39205
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I love where Frondell is standing for one of those goals. Loved this draft pick and i do think the Blackhawks were fortunate he was injured last year.

      Open netter for the hatty congrats to Frondell can’t wait to see him here.

    • #39293
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I thought that was less of a Blues regulars & up n coming rookies, giving the Rockford team their last tune-up, but that seemed more about Puuusis Suter showing the Hawk building brass that he can play and could play when the launched him.

    • #39294
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I thought that was less of a Blues regulars & up n coming rookies work at giving the Rockford team their last tune-up, but that seemed more about Puuusis Suter showing the Hawk building brass that he can play and could play when the launched him.

    • #39295

      I’m thinking right now we carry Reichel as a 14th Forward but he never dresses until he plays like a big boy in practice. It would mean somebody like EDM for sure gets sent down but this is a move we can make for now. The alternative would be taking somebody else’s change of scenery or even better, decent player whose contract needs to be launched in trade. Bottom line, I’m not letting him go for a 5th round choice. He can rot before I do that.

    • #39299
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      That means Louis Crevier and Reichel share the pressbox chance. If #55 stays around, he get rotated in/out unless he became Dickie Moore before our start of the season eyes.

      Speed Lukas has.

      I am of the opinion that DelMastro is still not ready for a chance just yet. Nolan Allen is closer, and DelMastro is a smart attacker and tactician, but still needs work.

    • #39309
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Blackhawks Close Preseason with 4–0 Loss — Time for Big Decisions

      The Chicago Blackhawks wrapped up their six-game preseason with a 4–0 loss to the St. Louis Blues on Saturday night, finishing the exhibition schedule with a 2-4 record. It was a long, grinding camp where opportunities were there, but few players truly seized them. After dressing most regulars on Friday, Chicago iced a younger, AHL-heavy lineup for the finale. The result was familiar: another night that slipped away in the second period, as the Blues scored three unanswered goals and never looked back.

      The opening period was a good one for Chicago’s young prospects. They battled hard, stayed structured, and managed to keep up with a veteran Blues lineup. It wasn’t flawless — there were a few nervous moments — but it was good enough to keep the game scoreless after twenty minutes.

      The second period, however, told a different story. Just like Friday night, things fell apart quickly. The Blues’ experienced players took control and exposed the Blackhawks’ inexperience, scoring three times and putting the game out of reach. From there, the contest felt like a lesson in what separates seasoned NHLers from prospects still learning the pace and precision of the league.

      Mixed Results in the Final Tune-Up

      This was the last chance for several young players and fringe veterans to make an impression. A few played back-to-back nights, hoping to force the coaches’ hand, but no one truly changed the picture.

      Head coach Jeff Blashill and general manager Kyle Davidson now face tough roster calls before Tuesday’s season opener in Florida. Expect most decisions Sunday and the official list submitted to the NHL by Monday afternoon.

      Blue Line Questions Could Shift Plans

      Chicago hoped to see a stronger statement from its young defense core, but Kevin Korchinski, Ethan Del Mastro, and Nolan Allan couldn’t quite rise to the occasion in their final auditions. Each had flashes of solid play, yet none produced the “I belong” game that locks down a roster spot.

      That could push management toward signing Matt Grzelcyk, still in camp on a professional tryout (PTO). His veteran presence would help steady a blue line where Connor Murphy is the lone skater over 30.

      There’s nothing wrong with starting prospects in Rockford. Korchinski and Del Mastro would benefit from heavy minutes at 5-on-5 and on both special teams rather than limited NHL usage. Development takes patience, and Chicago appears willing to play the long game.

      Forward Picture: Moore, Greene and Reichel

      Among the forwards, Oliver Moore and Ryan Greene both had good camps but didn’t complicate Blashill’s decision either. Moore’s speed stands out every shift, while Greene’s faceoff ability and defensive awareness are impressive for a rookie. Still, the smart move is likely to send them to Rockford for more ice time and special-teams experience.

      Lukas Reichel remains the wild card. He’s been linked to trade rumors, but for now, management seems inclined to keep him. Reichel still offers offensive upside and can grow under Blashill’s system. For opening night, he may serve as the 13th forward—a middle-ground approach that gives the staff flexibility.

      Roster Shape and Immediate Focus

      The Blackhawks are expected to open the season with 13 forwards, 8 defensemen, and 2 goalies. Alex Vlasic is projected to be ready for Tuesday’s game, giving the club another dependable option on D.

      Blashill has emphasized structure since the first day of camp: five players connected on the ice, tighter puck support, cleaner transitions, and smarter decisions under pressure. Faceoffs and special teams were recurring problems—Chicago’s penalty kill and power play both struggled late in preseason. Eliminating those mistakes will be crucial once the games count.

      Preparation and Scheduling Notes

      Next season, the NHL is expected to slightly reduce its preseason schedule. Teams may play around four exhibition games with a shorter training camp. Less evaluation time will put extra pressure on young players to stand out quickly. For organizations built around development, that means every practice and rep will matter even more.

      Wrapping Up Camp

      The Blackhawks’ preseason wasn’t perfect, but it achieved its goal: giving management a clear picture of where each player stands. The real test begins Tuesday in Florida, when everything resets to 0-0 and the expectations start to rise.

      In my next articles, I’ll dive into:
      • The Winners and Losers of training camp,
      • My Season Predictions, and
      • The October Preview for the Blackhawks.

      Prospect Corner and Forum Update

      While the HHS main site is still under migration, I’ll keep updates coming through the forum so we can continue our discussions.

      A few prospect highlights from the weekend:
      • Frondell scored a hat trick, standing out among Chicago’s European prospects.
      • Nastresil netted his first NCAA goal, a solid start for the freshman forward.
      • Several CHL prospects opened their seasons across Canada.

      Starting Monday morning, I’ll launch a weekly “Three Stars of the Week” column covering standout performances from the Blackhawks, IceHogs, and prospects.

      Thanks for sticking with us through the technical issues. Once the site is fully back, I’ll make sure the conversation and community feel stronger than ever. Hockey is back—and so are we.

    • #39311
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Yea Wiz who knows what’s going to become of Reichel, i was really disappointed again with his lack of compete in the preseason.

      It’s time for him to accept he’s not a top 6 player and reinvent his style of play to be a productive hockey player. He’s not good enough to play without the puck like Patrick Kane did.

    • #39312
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Thanks Frenchy for the update from last night’s game. The upcoming topics will be interesting to read too.
      I read Slaggert left the game after one shift in the 3rd. Blashill says it nothing serious, but will know more tomorrow (Sunday). Hopefully IR isn’t in the cards, but, if so, there may be a one week reprieve for either Moore, Greene, or Reichel.
      Prospects did all right last night –
      Bosivert – 1G and 1A
      Nestrasil – 1G with 8 SOG
      Frondell – Hat trick on Saturday following his 2 G on Friday
      Gajan gets the win last night for UMD stopping 14 of 15 shots
      Vanacker and Behm with a goal each in the OHL

      Edit – Jets’ Perfetti hurt last night. Could be serious and out long term. Trade partner for Reichel?

    • #39314
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I just got the CHSN app on my laptop. Screw Comcast! I see the Hawks are playing 7 games on ESPN+. I won’t be watching those as I am not paying Disney. I believe in the first amendment.

    • #39320
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Chicago will be signing D Matt Grzelcyk, who was in camp on a PTO

    • #39321
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Chicago will be signing D Matt Grzelcyk, who was in camp on a PTO

      Makes sense, and the kiddos down for more seasoning

    • #39322
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Chicago will be signing D Matt Grzelcyk, who was in camp on a PTO

      Makes sense, send the kiddos down for more seasoning

    • #39367
      Angotti
      Participant

      Grzelcyk is Gus 2.0, don’t expect any defense from him.

    • #39374
      Assman22
      Participant

      Grzelcyk is Gus 2.0, don’t expect any defense from him.

      He’s not. Gus has played 515 games and is -15 for his career. Grizzly has played 527 games and is +131. Also, Gus is a whore. 8 teams in 6 seasons = whore.

    • #39392
      Chunk
      Participant

      Grzelcyk is Gus 2.0, don’t expect any defense from him.

      He’s not. Gus has played 515 games and is -15 for his career. Grizzly has played 527 games and is +131. Also, Gus is a whore. 8 teams in 6 seasons = whore.

      What does this even mean? Gus wants to be an NHL player. He’d be stupid not to take an offer to be one. You seem to be saying that he’s choosing to play for all these different teams on purpose.

    • #39416
      Angotti
      Participant

      Assman22
      Participant

      He’s not. Gus has played 515 games and is -15 for his career. Grizzly has played 527 games and is +131. Also, Gus is a whore. 8 teams in 6 seasons = whore.
      ——————————-
      Well. Seeing that the Bruins scored 395 more goals than they gave up during Grzelcyk‘s time there makes the plus/minus argument not so conclusive.

    • #39441
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Looks like DelMastro made the cut.

    • #39448
      LAHawk
      Participant

      Once Grzelcyk got the PTO, unless he totally bombed in the pre-season you had to figure he was going to be signed. He was coached by Velluchi at Pitt. Last year, have to think he had some input in the decision to bring him in.

      Unless Murphy defies precedent and has an injury free season (or gets traded at the deadline) your veteran (singular) is Vlasic, then Kaiser and Crevier as far as service time. No matter how talented the young D is, that is way too young a D core to go through an NHL season.

      Unlike Brodie, Grzalek didn’t show the decline last year to think he is going to be as much a liability as Brodie was. I wish though that they would of picked up a vet that can play on the PK. Grzelcyk wasn’t on the PK with Pitt. And rarely with Boston.

    • #39456
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Grzelcyk certainly leaves a lot to be desired on the defensive end. All in all, it was a somewhat lackluster preseason. Nazar and Dach were the bright spots.

      Glad to see the season starting up, should be exciting. Just seems like the team has a distance to go to be comfortable in Blashill’s systems.

    • #39466
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I do agree it becomes a far too young backline if Grzelcyk isn’t there.With the Bruins, as you stated, Grz filled his role, as the jump good stick guy with attack sense.
      You also have to think how Boston had more than a few good big tough defenders Charlie McAvoy, Carlo,+ others so there was a niche spot for him.

      Glad to see DelMastro gets to hang around and practice with parent club.
      If there is no injury, I would have rewarded Nolan Allan with a call-up.
      There is lots to like in his both their games.

      There is no rush for Vlasic’s knee to get tested with urgency, when you can bring Ethan DM up.

    • #39474
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Takeaways from the Blackhawks’ Preseason: The Kids Are Coming, but Patience Still Required

      Voila, the training camp is officially over, and the real season starts tomorrow night in Florida.
      After 20 days of work and six exhibition games, the Chicago Blackhawks finish with a 2-4 record — but more importantly, with real answers. Head coach Jeff Blashill finalized his roster yesterday, closing the book on a camp that brought energy, competition, and a few surprises.

      This preseason wasn’t about the win-loss column. It was about discovery — who’s ready, who needs time, and who’s going to shape the future of this franchise. Let’s break down my main takeaways from camp and what we learned as the Blackhawks prepare for the 2025-26 season.

      1️⃣ Standout Players: Rinzel and Nazar Take a Step Forward

      The biggest standout on defense was Sam Rinzel, and it wasn’t even close.
      The 2022 first-round pick played with confidence and poise beyond his years. His decision-making under pressure, his puck movement, and his ability to read the play impressed everyone — including Blashill. Rinzel looked like a player who not only earned a spot on the roster but who could play meaningful minutes in the top-four right away.

      His transition game is elite, and he doesn’t panic with the puck. He plays like a veteran — calm, assertive, and efficient. If he keeps growing at this pace, the Hawks might have found a cornerstone defenseman for the next decade.

      Up front, Frank Nazar continued to show why management gave him a long-term deal this summer.
      He was the most dangerous forward throughout camp — relentless on the puck, creative with his passing, and confident driving the play. He’s not intimidated by NHL speed or physicality. After his solid debut last season, Nazar looks ready to play a full year and make an impact.
      If Bedard is the franchise centerpiece, Nazar might just become his perfect complement.

      Two young players — Rinzel and Nazar — left no doubt: they belong.

      2️⃣ Players Who Seized Their Opportunity: Dach and Levshunov

      Another major storyline was Colton Dach.
      Last season ended with some doubts about his NHL fit, but Dach took that personally.
      In his postseason exit meeting, the Blackhawks challenged him to study players who succeed in a 200-foot role — forwards who can be physical, responsible defensively, and still chip in offensively.
      He accepted the challenge.

      Dach showed a new level of commitment, finishing the preseason with 14 hits in four games.
      He didn’t just chase the puck — he created chaos on the forecheck and battled along the walls. The coaching staff doesn’t expect him to score 25 goals; they want him to be consistent, to become that grinder who brings energy and bite to the bottom six.
      If he embraces this identity, Dach could carve out a long NHL career. Blashill liked what he saw and rewarded him with a spot on the opening-night roster.

      On defense, Artyom Levshunov also earned his chance.
      The 2024 second-round pick came into camp in a tough battle with Kevin Korchinski, Nolan Allan, and Ethan Del Mastro. It wasn’t always perfect — he made mistakes, as all young defensemen do — but he showed enough skill and maturity to stay with the big club.
      His skating, puck vision, and transition game are already NHL-ready. The key now will be patience. Development is never linear; it comes with ups and downs. For Levshunov, staying around the NHL environment, learning every day, and working with the staff might be more valuable than extra AHL minutes.
      He’s not just a prospect anymore — he’s part of the future.

      3️⃣ The PTO Story: Grzelcyk Earns a Contract, Reichel Misses His Shot

      When Matt Grzelcyk arrived on a professional tryout, the idea was simple — provide veteran insurance in case the young defensemen weren’t ready.
      With only Connor Murphy as the established veteran on the blue line, Chicago needed another experienced voice.
      Grzelcyk didn’t light up the stat sheet, but he was steady, responsible, and professional.
      He did exactly what the organization hoped he would do — show the kids how to prepare and compete every day.

      Yesterday, he was rewarded with a one-year deal worth $1 million.
      Expectations are modest — he’s not here to carry the team — but he’s the type of veteran who can help the younger players like Levshunov, Rinzel, and Kaiser learn the finer points of NHL hockey.

      On the flip side, Lukas Reichel is the big disappointment of camp.
      He trained hard this summer and came in determined to prove himself after an inconsistent season. But it just didn’t happen.
      Despite getting top-six minutes in preseason, he didn’t show enough intensity or consistency to earn the coaches’ trust. The harsh reality: Reichel isn’t built to play a bottom-six role, and right now, he hasn’t done enough to secure a top-six one.

      Because he’s no longer waiver-exempt, he made the roster — but it feels more like an automatic move than an earned one.
      He’ll start the year as the 13th forward, and trade rumors have already started swirling.
      Unless something changes quickly, his future in Chicago is uncertain.

      4️⃣ The Bubble Players: Moore, Greene, and Allan Impress but Head to Rockford

      Several young players came close but ultimately didn’t make the cut.
      Oliver Moore stood out with his elite speed and energy.
      Ryan Greene also had solid camps, who impressed with his faceoff work.
      Both,left strong impressions, but the numbers game worked against them.

      Korchinski, Allan, and Del Mastro were also in that mix on defense.
      Del Mastro started with an advantage — Blashill likes his game — and he handled heavy minutes late in camp.
      Korchinski struggled early and was among the first cuts. He still has tons of potential but needs more AHL seasoning.
      Allan looked more confident as camp progressed, logging big minutes and showing steady improvement, but he’ll also start in Rockford to get more ice time and special-teams reps.

      These guys are close. Their time will come soon — and playing 20+ minutes a night in the AHL will help their development more than sitting in the press box.

      5️⃣ Concerns Going Into the Season

      Let’s be honest: this team still has growing pains ahead.
      My first concern is the penalty kill.
      The system is new, and with such a young defensive group, there will be mistakes. Murphy and Vlasic are dependable, but beyond them, questions remain.
      Can Kaiser, Rinzel, and Levshunov handle tough PK assignments? That remains to be seen.
      Up front, I’m less worried — the forwards are structured and committed — but on the blue line, it might get ugly at times.

      My second concern is the youth on defense in general.
      Four or five defensemen under 24 in one lineup is a lot to ask for in an 82-game grind.
      It’s exciting, but it’s risky. Expect ups and downs, and don’t be shocked if GM Kyle Davidson looks to add another veteran before the deadline to stabilize things.

      Finally, the 5-on-5 play must improve.
      Last year, the Blackhawks’ special teams were decent, but their possession metrics (CF%, xGF%) were among the league’s worst.
      They need to control the puck more, limit shots against, and improve in the faceoff circle — especially for Connor Bedard and Frank Nazar.
      You can’t generate offense without possession, and you can’t have possession if you can’t win draws.

      6️⃣ Big Picture: Rebuild Patience and Development

      Blackhawks fans, the message is simple — be patient.
      This camp reminded everyone that the rebuild is still ongoing, but the pieces are coming together.
      The future is bright if the organization continues to develop properly and build smartly around its young core.

      Expect ups and downs, expect learning moments, but also expect progress.
      Bedard should take another step. Nazar and Rinzel look ready to contribute. Levshunov and Dach bring fresh energy.
      Meanwhile, prospects like Moore, Greene, and Allan will keep developing in Rockford, waiting for their next call-up.

      As the season unfolds, don’t panic when mistakes happen.
      Enjoy the ride, appreciate the growth, and trust the process.
      This is still a rebuilding team — but one that’s starting to look more like an NHL team again.

      Some players are entering contract years, so expect movement at the trade deadline as Davidson continues to stockpile assets.
      The focus for 2025-26 is simple: development, structure, and progress — not panic.

      Final Thoughts

      The Chicago Blackhawks exit training camp with more clarity than they had a month ago.
      They’re younger, faster, and still learning — but there’s real hope.
      The journey back to contention will take time, but camps like this one show the foundation is getting stronger.

      So buckle up, Hawks fans. The season starts in Florida, and while the record might not matter yet, the progress absolutely does.
      The message from Coach Blashill is clear: no shortcuts — just hard work, patience, and growth.

      Enjoy the ride, stay positive, and remember — the future of this team is skating right in front of us.

      ? — Coach Frenchy

    • #39489
      Chunk
      Participant

      Nice write-up Coach! My extra 2 cents:

      While they are still young, I think we definitely need to see a notable improvement in the standings vs the last two years. At some point, the team needs to begin to gel together and prove they can battle out some wins when they need to, otherwise, you run the risk of having a bunch of good individuals instead of a team.

      I think this is a pivotal year for KK. He needs to take that opportunity in RFD by the cojones and assert his game on the opponents. If he doesn’t he runs a real risk of getting lost in the wash. He got a year in the NHL and almost a full year in the AHL. He did look better to me this preseason, but there wasn’t enough of a difference from his previous play.

      I think Bedard will certainly get his points, but I think Nazar has a chance at being the most reliable. He’s got a game that translates to any situation. I think after about 10-15 games, the Bedard/Donato/Burakovsky line will start to gel and be really dangerous.

      I’m really happy that Kaiser stuck with this team. He’s gotten so steady and he seems to know how to play off of Lev really well (no small feat). For being a small guy, he holds his own at the blue line and near the crease pretty well.

    • #39528
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Ryan Greene was recalled to Chicago as an emergency recall…

    • #39532
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Man, what is with these forums and posts just disappearing? Btw, looks like McDavid just made a statement signing for less to stay in Edmonton. 12.5 Mil for the best player in his prime.

    • #39575
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Man, what is with these forums and posts just disappearing? Btw, looks like McDavid just made a statement signing for less to stay in Edmonton. 12.5 Mil for the best player in his prime.

      You checking the “I’m not a robot box” just below the comment field before submitting your post?

      Surprised at McD signing for only 12.5M. Giving Stan the opportunity to fill in pieces around him the next 2 years. Good for him.

    • #39587
      Assman22
      Participant

      Surprised at McD signing for only 12.5M. Giving Stan the opportunity to fill in pieces around him the next 2 years. Good for him.

      I don’t like it either. Stan will have plenty of cash over the next two seasons as is. Salary cap is supposed to be around $104 million for next season and Stan has $71 million in contracts for next season including McJesus’ new deal. $35 million to add a goalie, 3-4 d-men and a couple bottom six forwards. Be nice to see Kyle send Stan his leftovers (Reichel & Crevier) in a trade. Two cheap contracts for next season and we take Isaac Howard in return.

    • #39616

      Lukas Reichel = Cedric Benson

      I had hoped that Greene and or Moore would make the team. With the Greene emergency call up, we know who is first up. I’ve not seen anything on Slaggert or heard anything the entire preseason. Did he make the team? Chunk, I think you’re expecting a lot expecting an improvement in the standings. KD is saying “I added vets and nothing happened. Now I’m going to try it this way.” Young defense, young goalies and a slow but steady matriculation of young talent. Time will tell but I expect to see a half dozen players from Rockford come up for a period this season. In the coming years, our high draft choices in college and Juniors to follow. It will also keep Danny’s cash budget down.

    • #39624
      Chunk
      Participant

      Lukas Reichel = Cedric Benson

      I had hoped that Greene and or Moore would make the team. With the Greene emergency call up, we know who is first up. I’ve not seen anything on Slaggert or heard anything the entire preseason. Did he make the team? Chunk, I think you’re expecting a lot expecting an improvement in the standings. KD is saying “I added vets and nothing happened. Now I’m going to try it this way.” Young defense, young goalies and a slow but steady matriculation of young talent. Time will tell but I expect to see a half dozen players from Rockford come up for a period this season. In the years to follow, our high draft choices in college and Juniors then following. It will also keep Danny’s cash budget down.

      Yeah, I am expecting a lot, but they should be as well. This is year four and Bedard and Nazar have NHL experience. They have what are expected to be serviceable vets to go along with them. I’m all for development, but if they don’t start getting better results, they run the risk of turning into Buffalo.

      Slaggert has a LBI, but they obviously aren’t being specific at all. I’m hoping he didn’t reaggravate his strained, but but we’ll have to wait and see.

    • #39648
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Surprised at McD signing for only 12.5M. Giving Stan the opportunity to fill in pieces around him the next 2 years. Good for him.

      Yes, I know to check the box, and usually I check that post actually posted, but what I’m talking about isn’t just a me thing. There were like about a half dozen additional posts by other users, then I came back a couple hours later and they are all gone. It’s like they restored the database from a backup.

    • #39649
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Buffalo’s compass is broken, not only do people from afar don’t know what they are doing, fans don’t and most certainly the org doesn’t.

    • #39661
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      When you are accumulating talent and nurturing it, the Reichel/Kurashev players start getting passed over which is what’s beginning to happen. internal competition begins to breed competitiveness which grows through the org.

      Oh and on a good note i read that Boisverts dad said he’s going to Boston U for this year and then signing with the Blackhawks…

    • #39673
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      We’re back, Blackhawks fans! 🏒 The HHS site is finally up and running again. Sorry for the delay and for the posting issues over the past few days.

      I’ll be publishing two to three new articles before the first game of the season. If you have any feedback or suggestions, feel free to share them in the forum under each post — I really appreciate your support.

      Apologies if I can’t reply to everyone, but know that I read and value all your comments.

      Let’s enjoy the start of the 2025-26 NHL season!
      Go Blackhawks Go! 🖤❤️

    • #39848
      Assman22
      Participant

      With the Greene emergency call up, we know who is first up. I’ve not seen anything on Slaggert or heard anything the entire preseason. Did he make the team?

      Not exactly. Slaggs is a defensive forward in the bottom 6 and that’s what Greene will be so they called him up over Moore but just my opinion. Wondering if it means Foligno moves up to 3rd line wing and Greene centers line 4?

    • #39851
      Chunk
      Participant

      With the Greene emergency call up, we know who is first up. I’ve not seen anything on Slaggert or heard anything the entire preseason. Did he make the team?

      Not exactly. Slaggs is a defensive forward in the bottom 6 and that’s what Greene will be so they called him up over Moore but just my opinion. Wondering if it means Foligno moves up to 3rd line wing and Greene centers line 4?

      They had Dach as the 3LW in practice with Greene centering the 4th.

    • #39885
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      With the Greene emergency call up, we know who is first up. I’ve not seen anything on Slaggert or heard anything the entire preseason. Did he make the team?

      Not exactly. Slaggs is a defensive forward in the bottom 6 and that’s what Greene will be so they called him up over Moore but just my opinion. Wondering if it means Foligno moves up to 3rd line wing and Greene centers line 4?

      My belief is they want Moore to skate on a line with another fast skater so he and Lardis can learn to play at a faster pace.

    • #39950
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Interesting to see 2025 draft choices Scheaffer, Misa and Brady Martin cracked the opening night lineups. ….. Ducks and Sharks are gonna be fun clubs to watch this yr.

    • #39977
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Frenchy, you gonna have a GDT? Or BM and MH you gonna make a GDT for each game?

    • #39987
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m in agreement that it’s a good idea.
      Would keep the general chat cleaner.
      Someone could start it each Game Day by posting the lineups.

      Does not have to be the same person, just whoever sees the lineup that day.

    • #39990
      boilermaker
      Participant

      BM and MH you gonna make a GDT for each game?

      I’m not. Happy to stay here.

    • #39996
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Fellas, if Frenchy ain’t gonna have a dedicated GDT it’s up to you two to come to a consensus. You guys have done the heavy lifting here at HH. …….. If I had a vote I kinda like a dedicated GDT. As MH says it keeps it (thoughts) cleaner and it provides a time stamp. Something to go back and check on, even if it’s simply the lineups, to see what you were thinking/posting 3-4 months earlier.

    • #40000
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Yo Dots, been thinking about me asking you if you were coaching against the Hawks today who do you send your shutdown people out against, Nazar or Bedard. Love the thought exercise and am gonna watch that closely this yr starting with Maurice, who knows a thing or two….

      I stand the same, today I shut down Nazar. 2-3-4 yrs from now, in January, don’t know, but today Nazar is the more dangerous player cuz he’ll create more HDC and 10 times more in alones or partial in alones. And, if Nazar starts finishing breakaways with consistency there is no doubt who you should fear and scheme against.

    • #40010
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Bedard’s new found speed: It’s all over everywhere you read, Bedard is so much faster this yr. Power’s has a piece I can’t read behind the paywall. 5-6 Hawks talkin it up. ….. Liked hearing Foligno say Bedard seems stronger deeper into his shift. A good sign whether or not it’s fitness, becoming more efficient or both.

      I watched him for instant first impression looking at his skating, notably his first step explosion. QUICKNESS, not top end speed. Top end speed is nice to push pace in transition, and backcheck, but quickness allows you to create much more often than top end speed. We saw this 1,000 times with Bedard as a Hawk. He doesn’t have the explosion in his small area game in the HD zones (say 20 ft in) to get shots off. He has an extraordinarily amount of shots blocked cuz of this.

      My first impression was the kid is thicker, he’s stronger on his skates, I might wanna say stronger on his stick, a more determined with purpose stride and a nice knee bend. He seems lower to the ice (leverage) and combined with being stronger on his skates he has a nice look to him.

      I didn’t notice the speed/quickness in Game 1. I did see increased speed in Game 2 but as of yet I don’t see any difference in short area quickness. …..

      What lights my fire most is his fancies v MN, I think. A 53CF% vs a between the dots type club MN is a tough cookie, even their AHLers. Anything near break even on CF for Bedard at yrs end is huge. …….. And, I like that Blashill (new eyes) will have some thoughts……….. I don’t think most Hawk’s fans understand yet how skilled a player Burakovsky is. This guy has top 6 hands and, unless I missed it since I’ve been following him for 5 yrs for fantasy hockey, this guy has some real speed. Noticeable speed and I guess I never realized how big he is. Never know about chemistry but along with TT this guy is the most skill/top type Bedard has played with as a pro. Has the IQ to make plays… We’ll see about his 2 way game especially on a line with Bedard.

    • #40018
      Assman22
      Participant

      I’m in agreement that it’s a good idea.
      Would keep the general chat cleaner.
      Someone could start it each Game Day by posting the lineups.

      Does not have to be the same person, just whoever sees the lineup that day.

      Maybe see how it goes. If it’s not trafficked enough, people will just end up talking about it in the general chat anyway. No one even comments on Tab’s GDT most of the time. HB had a decent GD following though so who knows!

    • #40019
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Maybe see how it goes.

      makes sense 👍

      A lot of posters/lurkers probably never leave this main thread anyway.

    • #40031
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Speaking of going into the offseason and working on improving their first step explosion, last yr Dach came back with the most improved explosion in his feet of any Hawk I can even remember. Kid still disappeared for long stretches, even in the AHL, but he looks a bit different. He hasn’t disappeared so far this yr……. Maybe a switch has gone off and if it did this kid has some quick feet, is a big dude and he’s willing…. Expect he’ll be busy today vs a nasty Florida club.

      Not sure I ever saw him even this far developed.

      Thought Game 1 Foligno may have hit a wall. He was nowhere to be seen and when you saw him he was far back of the play. His next 2 games he looked like he always did. Looks like he was just getting his reps in like he’s done for 15 or so preseasons.

    • #40037
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I always remember Knight playing low going back to The Program but he seems to have been influenced by watching Bob for 3 yrs. Kid plays lower than he did and as we watch today you can see similarities in the two…. Not only is Knight a blue chipper he’s had the great fortune to be Bob’s #2 for a few yrs.

      He’ll be tested and I hope he shows well vs the organIzation that took him 14th-ish overall. I’d think a big first game of the season as an NHL #1 would give the kid a boost. Hopefully the structure holds up enough vs a team that’ll slaughter an undisciplined club.

    • #40040
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Just started a Game Thread.

      Game Thread 1/82: at Panthers 5pm Eastern

    • #40153
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Hey everyone,

      First off, I want to apologize for not setting up the recent Game Day Threads — that’s on me. You guys were absolutely right about keeping things cleaner and more organized for each game discussion.

      Starting now, I’ll make sure to create a dedicated Blackhawks Game Day Thread (GDT) roughly 12 hours before puck drop. Each one will include lineups, key storylines, stats, and updates, so we can keep everything — from pregame thoughts to postgame reactions — all in one place.

      It’ll help us follow the team’s progress through the season and make it easier to look back at how things evolved game by game.

      Thanks for the reminder and for keeping the conversations rolling — really appreciate the passion and the consistency from everyone here.

      – Coach Frenchy 🏒🔥

    • #40248
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Don’t know if it will help but i do like this approach of sitting Reichel. We tried to trade you but no one wanted you and we aren’t going to waive you so if you want to play….

    • #40279
      Chunk
      Participant

      After the first period, they looked like a real hockey team. Obviously not the best, but lots of kids trying to get their footing in a reg season game. I thought most got better as the game went along.

    • #40288
      Assman22
      Participant

      After the first period, they looked like a real hockey team. Obviously not the best, but lots of kids trying to get their footing in a reg season game. I thought most got better as the game went along.

      Didn’t work last season. Can’t believe he’s still on this roster. Flip him with another guy elsewhere that also needs a change-of-scenery and let’s go. Shit or get off the pot.

    • #40290
      Assman22
      Participant

      Sorry Frenchy. Looks like Peg signed your UFA hopeful for the Hawks. Kyle Connor signed 8 years/$12 mil AAV. Good for him and well deserved.

      • #40406
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Yes, i know….good for him…

      • #40567
        LAHawk
        Participant

        So that huge 2026 UFA forward class is now down to Kempe, Panarin and Necas. Unless you want to include Nick Schmautz as a difference maker.

    • #40295
      Chunk
      Participant

      After the first period, they looked like a real hockey team. Obviously not the best, but lots of kids trying to get their footing in a reg season game. I thought most got better as the game went along.

      Didn’t work last season. Can’t believe he’s still on this roster. Flip him with another guy elsewhere that also needs a change-of-scenery and let’s go. Shit or get off the pot.

      Guessing you are talking about Dots post about Reichel?

      He’s not in the way at all. He’s literally an extra. You don’t want one of the other kids sitting if they are up on the big squad. He’s the Crevier of the forwards. Are you going to force whatever guy you get back in trade into the lineup? What does that accomplish if he has the same issues as Reichel?

      If someone offers something that KD wants for Reichel, he’ll get moved.

    • #40299
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Thanks Chunk, i think another key point is from what i hear is Blashill had a convo with Reichel and informed him of how he needs to play if he wants to get into the lineup. Is Reichel willing to accept that his form of floating around hockey is not going to help any team win?

    • #40309
      Chunk
      Participant

      Thanks Chunk, i think another key point is from what i hear is Blashill had a convo with Reichel and informed him of how he needs to play if he wants to get into the lineup. Is Reichel willing to accept that his form of floating around hockey is not going to help any team win?

      I don’t think it really matters at all. If he doesn’t figure his crap out, he’s going to be a UFA and can try and get a gig somewhere else. The Hawks have so many guys that are about to push for an NHL spot. It’s all on him to make them play him. I don’t think he played that poorly in the preseason, but he didn’t stand out.

      I think one of the most important things that Blashill has to maintain is that playing time and situations are a privilege. If someone is playing more responsible, they should get the time.

    • #40358
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      In the first period, which had a bunch of flubs, Knight saved their butts. They played better in the second but let down a little in the third. I see progress and that’s all that matters at this point. Bedard was just a couple of inches away from scoring the first goal. Nazar. Can you say anything more about this kid? I even noticed Bedard playing defense.

    • #40369
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Well, we played one good period (the 2nd) in that first game. The first period was rough and made worse by the weak penalty calls on Levshunov. The team still looked a bit disorganized in their own end, forwards late to get to coverage. We got burned for a goal on Grzelcyk being out of position, which is pretty much the book on him (or so I’ve been told).

      While there were a couple bright spots, that was a sound beating the Knight kept close.

    • #40403
      Chunk
      Participant

      Well, we played one good period (the 2nd) in that first game. The first period was rough and made worse by the weak penalty calls on Levshunov. The team still looked a bit disorganized in their own end, forwards late to get to coverage. We got burned for a goal on Grzelcyk being out of position, which is pretty much the book on him (or so I’ve been told).

      While there were a couple bright spots, that was a sound beating the Knight kept close.

      That’s going to happen for a while with a team this young.

    • #40610
      Metalhead
      Participant

      So that huge 2026 UFA forward class is now down to Kempe, Panarin and Necas.

      I just updated my 2026 UFA dream list today, have a look.

      The false dream of the UFA class of 2026

    • #40635
      Breagbag
      Participant

      So that huge 2026 UFA forward class is now down to Kempe, Panarin and Necas. Unless you want to include Nick Schmautz as a difference maker.

      That’s why drafting is king, especially as the cap rises, teams will be signing their guys.

    • #40660
      LAHawk
      Participant

      So that huge 2026 UFA forward class is now down to Kempe, Panarin and Necas. Unless you want to include Nick Schmautz as a difference maker.

      That’s why drafting is king, especially as the cap rises, teams will be signing their guys.

      Unless you are Vegas.

    • #40666
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      True about Vegas, they are the Yankees of hockey

    • #40690
      boilermaker
      Participant

      <p style=”line-height: 27px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s17-styled=”true” data-line-height-feature-value=”1″>So that huge 2026 UFA forward class is now down to Kempe, Panarin and Necas. Unless you want to include Nick Schmautz as a difference maker.

      <That’s why drafting is king, especially as the cap rises, teams will be signing their guys.

      Yeah, the thoughts most of us had the past few years about signing that “Hossa like player” or a scoring forward through free agency likely won’t be happening due to the cap increase.
      Now, I think the way to get other players to fill gaps in the lineup will be via trade. And the trade bait will be the accumulated draft picks and/or the stable of prospects.

      With Moore, Greene, Lardis, Kantserov, Boisvert, Vanacker, Frondell, Nestrasil, West coming up the next few years there will be more forwards than spots on the team.

      Can say the same with goalies within a couple of years. A couple among Knight, Soderblom, Commesso, Gajan and the 2 young Russians (assuming the last three develop into something) will be available.

      I could argue that the defense has the least assets to trade. Vlasic, Kaiser, Lev and Rinzel will probably be 1-4. EDM, Allan and KK are 5th and 6th types. And depth is still needed justifying keeping the last guy around.

      • #40881
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Great points, and honestly, I’m right there with you. The Hawks’ next phase of the rebuild will have to come from internal growth and smart trades, not big free-agent splashes.

        The prospect pool is getting crowded — especially up front — and that’s exactly the kind of “good problem” you want when building a contender. Guys like Moore, Greene, Lardis, Boisvert, and Vanacker all bring something different, but not everyone will fit long-term. That depth gives Davidson flexibility to move picks or mid-tier prospects for established NHL players once Bedard and Nazar are ready to push for a playoff spot.

        You’re also right on the goaltending side. With Knight, Commesso, Soderblom, and Gajan, there’s no way they all end up staying — one or two will become valuable trade chips once the picture clears up.

        NEXT SUMMER:
        The Hawks are shifting from the “collecting assets” phase to the “balancing the roster” phase. The key now is timing: make the right move without rushing the process.

    • #40706
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Just think if the salary cap went up like it is now in 2009?

      That’s what’s kind of cool with this rebuild and the salary cap, they will be able to keep a lot of their players, Nazar and Vlasic contracts help that already.

      • #40882
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Exactly… I’m working on an article about the NHL salary cap — focusing on the best contract templates for the next decade.
        Stay tuned, it’s going to be a good one! 💥

    • #40766

      Where’s Brandon Saad when you need him.

    • #40892

      Anybody else have this problem: you make a post, it doesn’t take and makes you forget what you posted? Just wondering.

      • #40974
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I hear you — it’s frustrating when that happens. It’s only occurred to me twice in the past few days, but now I always copy my post just in case it doesn’t show up. Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate it.

      • #40976
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        I wasn’t gonna fess up, but, me too. I save it before I get to I’m not a robot (no period)

        Well, we found out that the hawks have two pretty good young Goalers
        Arty really wants to use his hockey skills to be a difference-maker, but has be seeing doghouse after teasing us with upside and killing the tempoes for his parent club
        Complain?
        What’s the point? They got a point.

        Leaf’s first rounder shows why they chose him, not why they traded,Fraser Minton.

    • #41003
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I wasn’t impressed by Soderblom tonight. He made a fantastic save, but keeps giving up rebounds, and he is slow going side to side. I watched the game on the CHSN app, and the first period was difficult to navigate. When they went to a commercial, they didn’t come back. I had to click out to the home page, then click on the watch live, and then click on the game. It’s like they ran the commercials on a constant loop. Wasn’t impressed. They did get better, but I missed the first minute of the game because of the commercials. They need to do better, or I’m canceling it. The boys looked good again tonight, but they have some areas to work on. Lev was responsible for that first goal, and Murphy was way out of position for the second. Bedard needs to take a lesson from Nazar on breakaway shots.

    • #41105
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I wasn’t gonna fess up, but, me too. I save it before I get to I’m not a robot (no period)

      Well, we found out that the hawks have two pretty good young Goalers
      Arty really wants to use his hockey skills to be a difference-maker, but has be seeing doghouse after teasing us with upside and killing the tempoes for his parent club
      Complain?
      What’s the point? They got a point.

      Leaf’s first rounder shows why they chose him, not why they traded,Fraser Minton.

      ……………..

    • #41120
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      DelMastro assigned to Rockford

      • #41127
        boilermaker
        Participant

        I started a new forum dedicated to the Hawks prospects. Perhaps we can include news of what the kids are doing in the AHL, NCAA, Juniors and in Europe. Maybe this also would be a good place for Totem to contribute his WHL scouting reports and for Wiz to include his insights on the 2026 draft. You can find it here.

        Blackhawks Prospect News 2025-2026

    • #41128
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Good God this software……. Artie had a 53 corsi v the champs, 64 at Bpston. He’s 19 yrs old man and I think he leads the club in corsi for by a bunch. The eye test in these two games has shown a player who’s skill/skating/offensive upside can impact the game but he has some real WTF moments and his 3 stick penalties in the 2 games may have cost the team a win or even 2.

      I came on to post if he keeps up these penalties they’re gonna have to sit him but man, the 19 yr old has underlying numbers that says you can’t. ………

    • #41134
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I’m ascared to post more than a sentence cuz who the f%#* knows where it ends up but I like everything Blashill has done so far. His club has looked structured and considering the age of his 1 and 2C and a couple practically children in the D core, amazingly so. ……. How many times do we here about any club that they need to play a full 60 minutes? My eye says this group, under Blashill, has played two full 60 minute games.

      Tells me by their structure they are taking his coaching and by 2 full 60 minute efforts they’ll play hard for the guy. … That’s good.

    • #41137
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      And pairing Artie with Kaiser has been gold. Zero chance Artie puts up a 53 and 64 CF% in the 2 games without Kaiser’s IQ, skating, reads and compete. …

    • #41140
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Good God this software……. Artie had a 53 corsi v the champs, 64 at Bpston. He’s 19 yrs old man and I think he leads the club in corsi for by a bunch. The eye test in these two games has shown a player who’s skill/skating/offensive upside can impact the game but he has some real WTF moments and his 3 stick penalties in the 2 games may have cost the team a win or even 2.

      I came on to post if he keeps up these penalties they’re gonna have to sit him but man, the 19 yr old has underlying numbers that says you can’t. ………

      Two be fair to Levshunov, one of those penalties was make believe and the other was a pretty soft call. He is raw still and not yet matured, which is why ultimately he should probably be playing AHL minutes right now, but yeah the talent is evident.

    • #41143
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Well, we found out that the hawks have two pretty good young Goalers

      I sincerely hope that Soda can remain above .900 and become a solid backup and maybe trade bait down the road.

      But dang, even when he plays well he gives me the agita.
      Very spastic looking in the crease.

    • #41145
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m ascared to post more than a sentence cuz who the f%#* knows where it ends up

      Even medium size posts and I highlight and paste all of it to my laptop clipboard before hitting “submit”.

      edit: caught the Honeymooners reference btw Mr Kramden

    • #41149
      Breagbag
      Participant

      And pairing Artie with Kaiser has been gold. Zero chance Artie puts up a 53 and 64 CF% in the 2 games without Kaiser’s IQ, skating, reads and compete. …

      The thing is, on a solid team they would be playing 14-15 minutes a night as the 3rd pair. The stats like Corsi have been also a factor of the somewhat sheltered starts Blashill has given. Rinzel, Murphy, Del Mastro, have gotten the majority of the Dzone starts, where as the Kaiser/Levshunov pair have been given more of the Ozone starts.

    • #41154
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Burakovsky. The play where he took a pass near the sidewalll deep, turning head up immediately looking at the slot, sees Bedard weakside, his feet move a tad to get a clean passing lane, the instant it opens his hands zip a flat pass in Bedard’s wheelhouse and he strikes.

      That’s other level top 6 IQ, feet and hands. It’s in there with this 30 yr old who shows back class all the way back to the Hlinka. Guess we’ll find out why he’s been a middle 6er, only hit 60 pts once and in his 700 NHL games averages a bit over 1/2 point per. ……. But make no mistake, Burakovsky has serious traits, always has, and IMO is the 2nd best talent, after TT, he’s played with in the NHL.

      Tried to respond to you Frenchy, TWICE, in your article about mates for Bedard yesterday before I said Fu#& this. Basically I was posting to my eye Bedard is different this yr. So different that I don’t think who his mates are the kid is gonna be dangerous. The surety in everything he does, combined with 2 NHL seasons and offseasons, is vastly different even when he had the nice hollow points rookie yr. Sure, the better his mates the more points and all that kinda stuff but this kid is gonna get a few HDCF every game no matter his mates. Combine that with what I feel is the best shot I have ever seen the kid looks like he won’t be denied.

      How much he can make his mates better yet, the mark of a top player, we’ll see but I don’t think his mates can drag him down.

      • #41222
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Sorry to you and everyone for how difficult it’s been to comment or reply lately — it’s often not working, and unfortunately, it’s out of my control. I really wish I could fix it.

        That said, Bedard is only going to get better. He worked hard this summer and clearly wants to take the next step. If he can improve his faceoffs, it’ll make a big difference in the long run. Honestly, the Blackhawks should consider hiring a faceoff specialist to help both Bedard and Nazar take that next leap.

    • #41168
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      B Bag, excellent post and points. Indeed, I didn’t do even close to a deep dive into the fancies when posting about Artie. I just rarely do that anymore, so many hours down the NST rabbit hole I get PTSD when I visit the site and as a result depend greatly on guys like you who contribute to that discussion…….. The eye test shows me very little structure outa Artie, a lot of inconsistency yet his CF% is excellent. Tells me without sliding all the way to the right at NST to see zone starts that Artie is sheltered. Eye test says that right?

      But still brah, the eye is telling us Bedard and Nazar were dangerous in Florida but they had 25 CF% and you know they’re sheltered. 19 yr old Artie was 53 CF% being sheltered in the same game.

      I’m with you dude. We see what the kid can do at 19. I’d love for him to get 50-60 games in the AHL and come back later in the yr and stack his physical traits on top that foundation. But if he stays up and is able to stay paired with Kaiser I don’t think he’ll be stunted like KK was.

    • #41190
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know I’ve complained about a few play Arty hasn’t made but I’d rather he be out there than Murphy and Grezel.

      So long as they feel as though they are not ruining his development at the NHL level.

      The soft calls by the refs have got to stop, ridiculous.

      Still don’t understand Nazar getting a penalty for being cross checked several times in the back.

    • #41214
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hey MH, yea man good old Ralphie Boy and Norton were the real deal and hilarious together and there were a few times Ralph was “ascared”.

      Remember Soda 2 yrs ago? One of the most miraculous yr to yr improvement for a hockey player I’ve seen. But yea, there are times he gets a bit scrambly but that’s not a deal breaker. He provides competent depth and maturity to the pipeline but is probably a placeholder in the big picture. ……. Gonna be fun in 2ish yrs when Commesso will be an NHLer. For now it looks like Knight will stand in his way but you never know.

      I’m a big Hrabel guy but I watched Gajun enough in the USHL to see the kid has real talent, and question marks too. He’s a wild horse kinda prospect that is really talented and athletic (think Shesterkin style) but his teqnique is raw.

    • #41215
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I know I’ve complained about a few play Arty hasn’t made but I’d rather he be out there than Murphy and Grezel.

      So long as they feel as though they are not ruining his development at the NHL level.

      The soft calls by the refs have got to stop, ridiculous.

      Still don’t understand Nazar getting a penalty for being cross checked several times in the back.

      Gotta love the Rat drawing that trip on Artie. Kid left his stick out there and Marchand simply skated thru it and went down… Artie got schooled but he’s a reacher and takes stick penalties. Might take a while but that’ll get cleaned up to some degree. ….. Be fun to see this beast in 5 yrs. For now though it’ll get funky.

    • #41220
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Artie got schooled but he’s a reacher and takes stick penalties.

      I was especially disappointed to see Nazar take that bad tripping penalty.
      He was reaching around the entire opponent’s body for a puck he had no chance at.

      I suppose we are all guilty of “jumping” these youngsters into veteran smarts they don’t have yet.

      Less penalties, especially the lazy dumb ones, are a goal that could give them 4-6 team points this year without any other improvement.

    • #41231
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Did Foligno just randomly become great at faceoffs for 2 games or did I forget that he was always good?

    • #41234
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Is there some weird logical reason the NHL has zero games on night 4 of the season?
      Or is this just the NHL being the NHL?

    • #41237
      Angotti
      Participant

      Is there some weird logical reason the NHL has zero games on night 4 of the season?
      Or is this just the NHL being the NHL?

      I was thinking the same thing. If I’m home, I try and watch a period or two every night, obviously not tonight. Also, to touch on boiler’s earlier post, they do have more assets upfront on the way than defensemen. KD needs to restock Rockford with some dmen in the ‘26 draft, because fairly soon Allan, EDM, and KK will no longer be waiver exempt.

    • #41243
      Assman22
      Participant

      Off night and small sample size included, let’s talk about 2026 because, why not? The big UFA’s at least so far are re-upping with their current teams to max the 8 years which I get but what’s next? That’s out the window with the new CBA and Hawks are up and coming starting next year. If there’s no top tier UFA’s willing to coming to Chicago in June, does Kyle from Who Cares Where pony up the draft capital for a top tier RFA? Kyle could theoretically bend over Dallas this offseason. If they prioritize signing Harley over Robertson, which they should in order to shore up the blueline going forward, Dallas will be in a precarious position. They’ll prioritize Race over Robertson because their future blueline is headed by Heiskanen/Lindell only but their forwards group is stout to the core for several years plus Emil Hemming and Jaxon Fuder coming up in the not so distant future.
      Kyle has a boatload of prospects already and 5 picks in the first two rounds in a deep 2026 class. After that, we should be supplanted for two years. Instead of going for a big UFA, offer sheet Robertson for what Nill can’t even afford. Threaten that while offering a gentleman’s deal beforehand offering 2027 1st, Reichel’s RFA rights, Crevier, and Bertuzzi/Dickinson. Dallas is in a bad spot, exploit that.

    • #41254
      boilermaker
      Participant

      KD needs to restock Rockford with some dmen in the ‘26 draft, because fairly soon Allan, EDM, and KK will no longer be waiver exempt.

      Play them, trade them or lose them beginning with the 26-27 season. I think they’ll be 5,6,7D after Vlasic, Rinzel, Kaiser and Lev. I can see KFC packaging 2 2nds for a 1st resulting in 4 picks in the top 40 or so in a deep draft. I agree with the D pipeline so maybe he selects at least 2D with those picks.

    • #41261
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Don’t worry Coach, Blackhawks fans know how to do things in spite of technology 🙂

      Fridays have been soft the last couple of years for NHL games. Don’t know why, just is.

      Arty is only 19, and his play style is still that of a kid. He does generally catch on quickly so by game 10-20, he could be a completely different player. He has already looked better than he did at the end of last season. He could become a beast in short order. Most defensemen will get to where he is now in the age 24-26, so he is still way ahead of them.

      Rinzel has been awesome. Sure, a couple of minor mistakes, but wow!

    • #41279

      Don’t worry Coach, Blackhawks fans know how to do things in spite of technology 🙂

      Fridays have been soft the last couple of years for NHL games. Don’t know why, just is.

      Arty is only 19, and his play style is still that of a kid. He does generally catch on quickly so by game 10-20, he could be a completely different player. He has already looked better than he did at the end of last season. He could become a beast in short order. Most defensemen will get to where he is now in the age 24-26, so he is still way ahead of them.

      Rinzel has been awesome. Sure, a couple of minor mistakes, but wow!

      First time I saw Rinzel I saw 2014 Drew Doughty.

    • #41314
      Chunk
      Participant

      Sorry to you and everyone for how difficult it’s been to comment or reply lately — it’s often not working, and unfortunately, it’s out of my control. I really wish I could fix it.

      That said, Bedard is only going to get better. He worked hard this summer and clearly wants to take the next step. If he can improve his faceoffs, it’ll make a big difference in the long run. Honestly, the Blackhawks should consider hiring a faceoff specialist to help both Bedard and Nazar take that next leap.

      I thought that I saw that Yannick Perrault was still working with them this training camp. They also have Peca on the coaching staff, who was no slouch. I really don’t think it’s a matter of coaching with the FO’s. It’s mostly younger/weaker players taking them and they need to gain the experience and strength necessary to improve there. It would also help if their wingers were stronger and better at fighting for and winning some of the 50/50 pucks that can go either way.

      • #41341
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Here’s your improved reply 👇

        Good point, Chunk. You’re absolutely right about Perreault and Peca — both bring great experience to help the young centers develop. Of course, there are rare exceptions like McTavish and Celebrini who came into the NHL and performed well in the faceoff circle right away. But for most young centers — Bedard, Nazar, Carlsson, Fantilli included — it takes time, strength, and experience to adjust at this level. Thanks for sharing your insight!

    • #41625
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The Blackhawks lose a lot of face offs because the opponent cheats, i specifically watch the opponents feet and they are moving before the puck is dropped with no call, now if our young guys cheat they get thrown out of the dot, when the refs wouldn’t throw out the center for cheating but delay the drop and correct habs players feet the Blackhawks almost always won the draw.

      Besides I’m okay with the kids losing the draw it will force them to get better defensively.

    • #41730
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Loved what i saw of the Ice Hogs tonight

      • #41802
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Absolutely — two big wins! Check out my new article today and let me know what you think.

    • #41762
      totem
      Participant

      Added prospect notes for Seattle-Spokane WHL game in prospect thread.

      Ashton Cumby is back in Seattle after a short ATO stopover in Rockford. Thought he did OK in the game, seems reasonably mobile and able to carry the puck and make good passes. Will see how he does in Rockford next year.

      13 PIM in 2 games so far so taking care of that.

    • #41782
      LAHawk
      Participant

      So on the last Montreal goal, Foligno was on the ice with Bedard and Burakovsky I assume as a veteran presence instead of C. Dach.

      Can someone (Frenchie?) explain what Foligno was doing in that defensive sequence . Was he channeling his inner Al Arbour and trying to play as a second goalie? I thought in Blashill’s defensive system the wingers cover the points, and the center is down low, although I will say Bedard was not really marking anyone either.

      Can’t wait for when Mr. Microphone retires after this season and becomes an analyst for the NHL Network. Tired of hearing him talk about learning how to win, especially since his resume doesn’t exactly scream that he knows how to either.

      • #41794
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        @LAHawk: Thanks for your question and great observation.

        I reviewed the goal several times, and honestly, the entire sequence was a mess. The Blackhawks’ defensive coverage broke down completely — there was confusion, poor communication, and bad positioning, starting with Foligno. At one point, you can literally see four Hawks lined up together with only one player up top (#28).

        Let’s go through it in detail:

        1️⃣ The Setup:
        Suzuki rims the puck down low to Hutson. Bedard is the high forward, and three Hawks collapse low in front of the net — that’s fine at first. Foligno is down low with Burakovsky and Rinzel, while Vlasic is a bit too far up on the right side.

        2️⃣ The First Breakdown:
        As Hutson gets the puck along the boards, the Hawks should switch from a box +1 to man-to-man coverage. Bedard recognizes it and moves toward Hutson, but Foligno drifts toward Rinzel instead of holding his lane. That movement causes confusion — Burakovsky ends up as the high forward, which is a good reaction to maintain defensive balance after Foligno went too low.(stuck in front of the net)

        3️⃣ After the First Shot:
        Hutson takes a shot that’s blocked, and the rebound lands near Bedard. He tries to clear the puck, but Caufield intercepts. Montreal quickly resets in a 2–3 formation, while Chicago collapses into a 1–4 shape, which leaves too much space up top.

        4️⃣ The Secondary Sequence:
        Caufield shoots again, creating a rebound in front. Now Hutson becomes the bumper, Vlasic is behind Hutson and cover Suzuki too, and Foligno is planted in front. Rinzel is covering Slafkovsky, while Bedard is simply watching the play develop. Hutson kicks the puck to Suzuki — Vlasic is close to him, but Hutson makes a strong play to push the puck through.

        At that moment, Burakovsky goes lower to help defend Suzuki even though Vlasic is already there. Bedard’s positioning improves slightly, but Guhle is left completely alone at the blue line. Suzuki finds him, and Guhle’s shot goes in after deflecting off Rinzel’s skate.

        5️⃣ Final Breakdown:
        At the time of Guhle’s shot, the Hawks had reset into a box +1 — but they were too tight together, leaving the entire top lane open. The whole problem started with Foligno being too low in the zone and the team failing to communicate. Three Hawks collapsed in front, no one covered the high point, and that’s how Guhle found the space to score.

        Unlucky deflection, yes — but the root cause was positional confusion, led by Foligno’s misread and a lack of defensive communication.

    • #41852
      Assman22
      Participant

      Loved what i saw of the Ice Hogs tonight

      Couldn’t agree Moore Dots! They came out like Little Caesar’s hot n ready in the 1st even after playing a really tough game the night before. Kudos to the new coach for having the boys ready to roll out of the gate. Love their compete. They went up early and kept their foot on the gas. New goalie had 29 saves on 31 shots, Lardis’ pass for his helper was astounding and Moore looked great in that 3-on-1 scoring a goal at a high pace as Kyle asked him to work on. Looking forward to their next game already, go Hogs!

    • #41987
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Wow Frenchy, nice breakdown of the breakdown. Coming from a scout I hope folks reread and file your explanation in their archives. …. I’ve found if a scout is willing to talk it’s a good idea to listen but how often does it happen unless you’re at the rink often and approach them properly with ears open and mouth closed.

      Kind of a window into how complicated it can get and especially so when you have an NHL top 6 guy dangling and zooming around the zone. Chemistry, being on the same page and coaching is what gets pucks out.

    • #42042
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’ve got to admit Kaiser really has impressed me so far this season. I think he’s getting better with each game, which is fantastic, it’s really looking like Vlasic, Rinzel and now Kaiser, are top 4 defenseman

      With the forwards playing defense back checking and taking scoring passing lanes away in the dzone, my guess is we’ll be drafting higher than at least 5th OA when all said and done.

    • #42043
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      And if Mikhelev keeps playing the way he does, I wouldn’t be able to trade him, i was so impressed with his effort and defensive play vs the Habs.

    • #42052
      Assman22
      Participant

      And if Mikhelev keeps playing the way he does, I wouldn’t be able to trade him, i was so impressed with his effort and defensive play vs the Habs.

      Mik’s picked up where he left off last year and continues to play with a lot of confidence and determination. Good to see a change of scenery work out for someone that ends up in a Hawk uni. Arty and Mik seem to have a bromance going similar to Pickle and Martinez last year. Unfortunately, they play different positions but maybe it’ll work out.

    • #42069
      Haru
      Participant

      And if Mikhelev keeps playing the way he does, I wouldn’t be able to trade him, i was so impressed with his effort and defensive play vs the Habs.

      Agreed. Also might help out Kantserov if/when he gets here.

    • #42071
      Metalhead
      Participant

      The good:
      23 SOG against is a welcome improvement.
      Kaiser looked good.
      Mikheyev very tough on the puck.
      Knight excellent.
      Less penalties.

      The bad:
      13 SOG is just plain no damn good.
      Rinzel and Bedard with very dumb penalties.
      I have no idea what Bertuzzi is doing that has any value to team success.

      The ugly:
      First power play was an embarrassment. Completely incompetent trying to enter the zone.

      • #42088
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Frenchy has a good summary of last night’s win on the home page.

    • #42137
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      And if Mikhelev keeps playing the way he does, I wouldn’t be able to trade him, i was so impressed with his effort and defensive play vs the Habs.

      You know Dots, Mikhayev has the same speed as Nazar and is a few in taller and 25 lbs heavier. And he showed us last yr on some in alones against he’s got some nifty hands too. .. In 350 NHL games he’s at .47 pts per games. ……. Not at Burakovsky’s skill level butt this guy has blazing speed and good size. ….. On this team when consistent he’s a middle 6er that checks some boxes with the ability to take some top 6 minutes and not be outa place.

      He fits, will be interesting to see what Blashill can get out of him. And like Danoto he when he jumps over the boards no matter what line he’s on coach knows what he’s gonna get. Mikyhayev gives the coach a lotta flexdibility.

      • #42172
        BetweenTheDots
        Participant

        Yea it is nice to see, another player who fits the KD mold is Burakovsky i never realized he actually plays defense, i liked how Blashill rewarded those hard working guys on the PP and it paid off.

        I don’t know if they’ll be able to bring this for 78 more games but if they do it’ll be a fun season to watch.

    • #42181
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I agree that this seasons ups and downs might have a few more ups than the others in teh rebuild.

      I will be happy as every new face gets battle-tested and then understands the way, and goeas about becoming part of the pro game with other guys with the like minds to win together.

      I still look with hopes to win this lottery, whether we are 6th from te bottom or dead last.

      I will say I may have been on point in my mock draft to have Islanders second rounder as an early second rounder.

      So much to like in long term developers, so much there.

      Meanwhile the Roman and Sacha arrive, raring to go as pros.

      Lil Frankie and bedsy MAY end up as wingers as the grand scheme unveils itself….

    • #42332
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Yea it is nice to see, another player who fits the KD mold is Burakovsky i never realized he actually plays defense, i liked how Blashill rewarded those hard working guys on the PP and it paid off.

      I don’t know if they’ll be able to bring this for 78 more games but if they do it’ll be a fun season to watch.

      Yea, the effort and hunger they’ve opened the season with will be to/impossible to maintain for 78 more games, but, maybe closer to it than we might think…. I’m really bought into this competition for roster spots that maybe makes this team better than the sum of its parts. And these are blue chippers and 2nd rd guys battling so it’s high level. …. And they haven’t started a RKF shuffle yet where guys like Moore and Lardis will get look sees bringing more hunger and internal compete.

      Going into the season most, or many, thought Moore and Del Mastro would make the roster. KK? Was it better than 50/50 that Greene would make the roster? … Point is lotsa known unknowns meaning it could be anybody, 2-3 deep, will win an NHL roster spot, at least for a spell.

      Buraqkovsky may be a kinda wild card. Top 6 minutes, 2nd unit PP, skating with Bedard and he just might be his best season of 61 pts…. For whatever reason he has never popped commensurate to his skilled hands, skating, IQ and size. He should really gel with Bedard due to his high IQ even even more so than his physical skills. …Some preseason 10-11 yrs ago I was tuned into WSH when Burakovsky was getting a look as young prospect, maybe 19. Dude jumped out right away and I followed him closely for fantasy purposes.from then on. … Without diving into his fancies he shows middle 6 production at .54 points per, but man, as you can see he has some real skills. .. I’m excited every time he hits the ice.

      And yea, I must not have ever thought he was poor defensively cuz I remember stuff like that but like you, even after following him for a decade, I don’t remember him being this good defensively. Or as fast as he is.. Whether he stays consistent, competes every shift, flys around the ice, stays hungry like he has all season long, we’ll see. Gotta be a reason he averages just a 1/2 point per over 700 NHL games cuz it ain’t skill.

    • #42407
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Arty watch in win:

      In the closing minutes, 1:43 left the hawks controlling in the attack zone a pass comes to #55 a few feet in the middle area zone off the blue line, an he receives a pass as an opposing player is converging, he attempts this puck move to get it to the other Hawk player near that blue line, but his stick motion send the puck off target and out of the zone.

      What words describe that stick work?
      Broom stick swirl?
      Rod hockey twirl?

      (?) You guys KNOW the player #55 attempted right?

    • #42408
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Arty watch in win:
      In the closing minutes, 1:43 left the hawks controlling in the attack zone a pass comes to #55 a few feet in the middle area zone off the blue line, an he receives a pass as an opposing player is converging, he attempts this puck move to get it to the other Hawk player near that blue line, but his stick motion send the puck off target and out of the zone.
      What words describe that stick work?
      Broom stick swirl?
      Rod hockey twirl?

      (?) You guys KNOW the player #55 attempted right?

    • #42413
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Arty watch in win:
      In the closing minutes, 1:43 left the hawks controlling in the attack zone a pass comes to #55 a few feet in the middle area zone off the blue line, an he receives a pass as an opposing player is converging, he attempts this puck move to get it to the other Hawk player near that blue line, but his stick motion send the puck off target and out of the zone.
      What words describe that stick work?
      Broom stick swirl?
      Rod hockey twirl?

      (?) You guys KNOW the play #55 attempted right?

    • #42422
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Sounds like the Hawk will be without Nick Foligno for a bit. Hope everything goes well for his family and his daughter has successful surgery.

      https://www.nhl.com/news/chicago-blackhawks-nick-foligno-taking-leave-of-absence-from-team

    • #42554
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      It’s success when Arty plays physical with restraint.

      Kaiser had some unsettled play early on, and then Vlasic settles things with his point shot, and we all revel in #73 two periods (‘tween the 2nd-3rd now for me), but the b‘awk forward driving speed was the difference.
      Burkowsky did disappoint in several scoring chances.
      Cannot wait for a fast 3rd.

      • #42571
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        Post 3rd period.

        You can, tonight, count every iced Blackhawk as the youth movement, as the team truly was quick, spirited and wise in their execution of the new coaching / game plan and play the game with robot.
        Tucker on Blues is the 6th bruiser / goon fighting defender and was his achievements on the scoreboard were not to my liking.

        There was clearly some offensive brilliance by Bedard and company, and team play was really something.

        You gotta like Greene’s game, heck, all their games.
        can Lukas start feeling it?
        The young ones sure seem to enjoy each other in this on the job training exercises against a rival that got out worked, and they were in the play-off last post-season.

        The smart positional play of the dee corps and I think they eventually be decscribed as big, quick, smart, and they willing to be. combative inside their scheme.

        That was FUN!

    • #42556
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      See everyone thought we would have to many defenseman, no one knew Blashill would play 7 of them, hahaha

    • #42557
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Lovin 73s playing with purpose tonight, more please

    • #42560

      They recalled Moore he’s wearing #73.

    • #42561
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Holy crap

    • #42573
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Wow! Who would have thunk it? Kaiser made a bad pass and then deflected in a Blues goal. One unhappy goalie on that one. Other than that, I like his game. I think Bertuzzi will be gone at the trade deadline. Rinzel is playing well, so Arty may go down because this seven defenseman doesn’t play well. I understand his thinking, but KFC must be doing a slow burn not having Lafferty on the ice. And how about Bedard? He is showing a bit more toughness this year. Good for him!

    • #42612
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      About Connor Bedard

      Connor Bedard

    • #42620
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      My favorite part of last nights game was Pang going on and on about Hofers stick handling and what a good goal tender he is and then Mikhayev scores, it was silent for 5 to 10 seconds, hahaha

    • #42626
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      My 2nd favorite part, Montgomery talking about how his Blues are going to take over the game the rest of the way when it was 2-2, hahaha

    • #42630
      Metalhead
      Participant

      About Connor Bedard

      Connor Bedard

      Dang, nice find Frenchy.

      • #42631
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks, my friend. I’d really like to hear your thoughts about the game. One thing that stood out to me this morning while looking at the analytics was the HDCF% (High Danger Chances For). The Blues finished with 56.52%, while the Blackhawks were at 43.48%. That’s an area Chicago definitely needs to improve — they can’t afford to give up that many high-quality chances. Still, I really liked how they protected the front of the net overall. It’s a step in the right direction defensively.

    • #42644
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      So maybe the value of Bedard being on a bad team drove him to try to be the best all around hockey player he could? I never had a doubt, his compete level and work ethic are off the charts.

      I gotta say KD has brought in players to play his brand of hockey every year even though teams were giving us draft capital to take them off their hands, he’s drafted players to play his brand of hockey is there a chance it all comes to a head this year instead of next???

      Now I’m really curious to see the Canucks game

    • #42648
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      One last thing, maybe. Every night i watch our defenseman and think they are just as good as the opponents, which is refreshing, honestly i like the 7 dmen kind of gives you match up options.

    • #42649
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Frenchy, I’m on East Coast time, so I only watched the first period.
      It was a clown show for both teams.

      Glad they won it.

      Hopefully this sub-30 SOG against is a trend they can sustain, or at least regularly revisit.
      Only 2 penalties, that’s a nice thing to see.
      Soda has probably defined himself: backup goalie for a non playoff team. Doubt he will ever be more than that. Hope I’m wrong but…..

    • #42652
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Last night, that was a game where secondary scoring showing up really swung the momentum in the Hawks favor. The bottom 6 gave the Hawks the 3-2 lead and then Nazar scored that nice one. We took advantage of some leaky goaltending and ran away with the game.

      Hawks are 2-2-1 and that’s on the back of the bottom 6 showing up with secondary scoring and specifically strong play from the 3rd line. While I didn’t like his play on one of the Blue’s goals, I thought Vlasic played better than he has to start the year. I’ve felt he has only really been “okay” so far this season. He was more into it last night, using his stick well.

      Levshunov seems that he will be growing into a real difference maker. Grzelcyk has chipped in pretty well for a PTO signing. He isn’t the best defensively but making some nice passes and can skate the puck well.

      For me, this game was a nice step in the right direction, mostly just because of the confidence boost that young teams need.

    • #42654
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Okay i gotta post this i may not get another chance Blackhawks +4 point differential, hahaha

    • #42685
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Okay i gotta post this i may not get another chance Blackhawks +4 point differential, hahaha

      Yo Coach Dots, you’re coming into the UC to play the Hawks Friday. Who you putting your shutdown line outa to defend, Nazar or Bedard?

    • #42715
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      About Connor Bedard

      Connor Bedard

      Wonderful to read, especially for those, me, who weren’t near sold that Bedard would reach his ceiling or become close to adequate off the puck. Not that that’s a foregone conclusion but these numbers show a very impactful player. …. The battle wins show it all but you know what, Frenchy, you could see this coming since the Florida game to open the season.

      I think it was as far back as after that game I posted I’m not sure who Bedard’s mates are this yr, the kid has the look of a player who will not be denied and won’t be dragged down by mates and these battle win stats are bearing that out. You could see by eye he was more stout, his speed has increased to keep up with his hands and skate by defenders he hasn’t been able to do since turning pro, a knee bend that showed surety and the kid was playing low with leverage.

      Once possession numbers improve the kid will start scratching his ceiling.

    • #42720
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Should not comes as a surprise, it’s Vegas who signs Carter Hart.

    • #42724
      boilermaker
      Participant

      First of several Youtube videos to be produced by the Blackhawks to commemorate their centennial year.

    • #42738
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Okay i gotta post this i may not get another chance Blackhawks +4 point differential, hahaha

      Yo Coach Dots, you’re coming into the UC to play the Hawks Friday. Who you putting your shutdown line outa to defend, Nazar or Bedard?

      1 gotta say I’m excited at the fact we possible have a top 6 2nd line in Nazar, Burt and Teuvo.

      I believe this is the key in unlocking Bedard, with that being said still Bedard he can beat you with his shot and pass.

      Truth be told that 3rd line is no joke either, they seem to either suffocate you or trap the opponent in their own end for more than minute shifts

      We’ll see but for me exciting times ahead

    • #42752
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Finally figured it out—–
      Frank Nazar is ticket scalper Mike Damone from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

      View post on imgur.com

    • #42763
      Gramps28
      Participant

      🤣

    • #42805

      Last night the goaltending was so bad for St. Louis, and not much better for us; I’m wondering how good we really were?

      On another note, has anyone heard from “Hawk-in-the-D”? I miss him.

    • #42807
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I am glad you are feeling that victory in another Purina Palace.

      As all said, there were many moments that made us all happy!

      The biggest was the broadcast was that i-game. interview on how his guys could come back.

      And all the player actions, and how we are likin’ more a’ them, and we like their joys as our joys,

      Ryan Greene’s happiness of scoring, or Lil Frankie, rollin’ out of the pile and wild to celebrate that his

      speed and a top gear that managed not injuring Blues’ goolie Hofer, all our forwards tonight were humming.

      Truly happy Reichel had a successful night.

    • #42861
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      You know MH you are correct the goalie had a bad night, that happens but what doesn’t happen in the past couple of years is the Blackhawks don’t take advantage of it.

      The most encouraging thing is they didn’t let up, they just kept playing the same style of hockey instead of turtling in their own end.

    • #42870
      Breagbag
      Participant

      One interesting quote I saw floating around. Blashill was pretty level headed about the wins.

      “Yeah, the other team didn’t play to the level they’re capable of. So I don’t want to make more of it than it is.”

      I think overall he is less likely to knee jerk react to the outcome of any particular game or sequence of games.
      Probably while he hasn’t juggled lines too much either. He seems to be a guy who reads into more of how you got the win rather than just the end result.

      I like it, because while we got a couple wins, the team still has a long way to go.

    • #42878
      Breagbag
      Participant

      With 7 in 11 games, 18 year old Frondell is tied for 3rd for goals in the SHL. He is actually tied with former Blackhawk (2015-2017) legend Dennis Rasmussen.

      Frondell is also leading the SHL in +/- with +11.

    • #42892
      Metalhead
      Participant

      You know MH you are correct the goalie had a bad night, that happens but what doesn’t happen in the past couple of years is the Blackhawks don’t take advantage of it.

      Thanks, I like being correct.
      Unfortunately, I cannot figure out what post of mine you are responding to.

      🤣 I’m old.

    • #42907
      Metalhead
      Participant

      With 7 in 11 games, 18 year old Frondell is tied for 3rd for goals in the SHL.

      Really excited to read this ! !

      He is actually tied with former Blackhawk (2015-2017) legend Dennis Rasmussen.

      Okay, I’m not so impressed now.

      🤣

      The stats are much appreciated though, thanks !

    • #42913
      Haru
      Participant

      Finally figured it out—–
      Frank Nazar is ticket scalper Mike Damone from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

      “….Now beat it kid. You’re crampin’ my style.”

    • #42922
      Metalhead
      Participant

      “….Now beat it kid. You’re crampin’ my style.”

      Classic line.

    • #42934
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Levshunov is tied for the league lead in 5 on 5 goal differential.
      Blackhawks have outscored opponents 6-1 in nearly 55 minutes of Lev 5 on 5 play.

    • #42938
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Levshunov is tied for the league lead in 5 on 5 goal differential.
      Blackhawks have outscored opponents 6-1 in nearly 55 minutes of Lev 5 on 5 play.

      I noticed he was doing well there, but I also noticed the Hawks are shooting nearly 30% when he is on the ice.

    • #42941
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Outa all the stats I’ve seen/heard this is the craziest…… Thru 5 games Bedard has 5 SOG!! 5 shots in 5 games??? On 19 shot attempts!! Tad less the 4 attempts per game. ……. He always had a lotta shots blocked but with his added speed getting him past defenders in the D zone, the overall team speed and danger causing defensive breakdowns, and the kid is looking to dish, the eye seems to think he’s firing the thing.

      Bedard has the greatest shot I’ve ever seen and I wanna see the kid in the top 5 of SOG every yr and really, so far, he still hasn’t yet seems dangerous every time he’s on the ice. The kid really is just scratching the surface.

    • #42942
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I noticed he was doing well there, but I also noticed the Hawks are shooting nearly 30% when he is on the ice.

      Holy crap, great under-stat !

    • #42943
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Levshunov is tied for the league lead in 5 on 5 goal differential.
      Blackhawks have outscored opponents 6-1 in nearly 55 minutes of Lev 5 on 5 play.

      I noticed he was doing well there, but I also noticed the Hawks are shooting nearly 30% when he is on the ice.

      Lev’s PDO is 128!! Playing fantasy a 100 PDO is what shows a mean. A 128 screams regression. ….. Kid has been sheltered big time and he should be in his draft +2 yr at this level. 71% Ozone starts and the kid has responded with a 58%CF.

    • #42945
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Dots, it jacked my response to you about who’s more dangerous, Bedard or Nazar. Last try……. When I posted that question to you before the FLA game I was asking myself the same question. IMO no doubt in that snapshot in time it was Nazar and I was thinking thru what that meant. Since then as the season has gone on it’s Bedard who is more dangerous. .. Forget what your eyes have seen the last 2 yrs of Bedard playing under 2 questionable NHL coaches in the first 2 yrs outa a total teardown. Bedard is trending towards being a top 5-10 most dangerous player in the NHL. .. The switch has flipped on top of Bedard being a very hungry talented player

      Nazar is gonna have some bumps. If we see him as being dangerous so do other coaches. He’s not sneaking up on anyone, he’ll get attention and schemes to slow him down………. My guess is the next time, if ever again, we discuss who’s more dangerous Nazar or Bedard it’ll be 4-5 yrs from now.

    • #42958
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      As the Hawks go for 4 in a row tonight it’s setting up nicely. VAV played in Dallas last night and Bamford reports Lankinan will get the start. ….. All eyes on Reichel I’d assume and I wonder if Blashill will stick with what’s won for him, the 11F 7D lineup.

      Some real tough lineup decisions ahead when Slaggert returns and especially if Reichel shows any kinda consistency. …….. I think 4 yrs of drafting BPA has finally resulted with real roster competition, and another wave coming, at every position at the NHL level. Add a hungry young talented team bought into a system that seems to be working we see some damn fun and meaningful hockey.

    • #42959
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Bamford has the lineups. Reichel in, 11F 7D lineup that’s unchanged from the STL tilt except Knight is in.

    • #43002
      Angotti
      Participant

      Hard to believe that they still have seven 1st round picks not yet playing with the big club, and two more this coming draft. There will not be room for all of them, however not at that bridge yet.

      KK
      Allan
      Boisvert
      Vanacker
      Frondell
      Nestrasil
      West

    • #43003
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Yo LA, My Guy Casper is DET’s 1C flanked by Kaner and Dcat on L1….. He’ll go get the puck for those two, play 2 ways and add giddy up/nose over the puck for that club.

    • #43004
      Angotti
      Participant

      Isn’t that their second line? I thought that Larkin and Raymond were part of their first line.

    • #43005

      Hard to believe that they still have seven 1st round picks not yet playing with the big club, and two more this coming draft. There will not be room for all of them, however not at that bridge yet.

      KK
      Allan
      Boisvert
      Vanacker
      Frondell
      Nestrasil
      West

      Whatever we do it can’t be worse than trading Phil Esposito and Ken Hodge and letting Bobby Hull walk because Wirtz backed out of a $250k promise.

    • #43008
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hard to believe that they still have seven 1st round picks not yet playing with the big club, and two more this coming draft. There will not be room for all of them, however not at that bridge yet.

      KK
      Allan
      Boisvert
      Vanacker
      Frondell
      Nestrasil
      West

      Hadn’t realized this, Lou. It’s crazy. Generally, you’re lucky as a fan to have 1 or 2 real prospects coming up making an NHL roster. Hawks have 3-4 blue chippers seemingly coming each yr. The names you posted all have size too except for KK and he ain’t small … Wonder what went thru KD and Crews head as the watched their creation, led by kids, skate STL outa the arena?

      The complete tear down, accumulation of loads of 1st and 2nd round picks, drafting BPA (which happened to be from the back end out early), everybody in the organIzation being on board with iron clad patience and refusal to take short cuts as their picks develop is starting to bear fruit…….. And it’s damn fun as a fan right now.

    • #43010
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Hard to believe that they still have seven 1st round picks not yet playing with the big club, and two more this coming draft. There will not be room for all of them, however not at that bridge yet.

      KK
      Allan
      Boisvert
      Vanacker
      Frondell
      Nestrasil
      West

      Whatever we do it can’t be worse than trading Phil Esposito and Ken Hodge and letting Bobby Hull walk because Wirtz backed out of a $250k promise.

      Don’t worry, be happy, rpete… The Dark Ages are gone (for now) and the current kids are skating playoff teams outa the joint. … If VAN has any sluggishness from playing Dallas last night then getting on a plane flying 1,000 miles the thoroughbreds just may put the needle on the record and git jiggy wit it for 3 periods again.

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    • #43022
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      For those interested I think Chelios is doing color with Wiedeman on the radio side. …. If you can pull yourself away from Panger. Dude is so so bad.

    • #43044
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I am loving the game now late in the third, and although I haven’t missed any games, I kept thinking something was off.

      I finally realized that I hate the 100th Anniversary sweaters, because the added a black then gold highlight around the numbers on the player’s back.

      I never thought any hawk sweater would dwarf then choir boy collars ones.

      You don’t suddenly add a color from the Indianhead to JUST the numbers on the backs!

      Hate it as I noticed it sweaters looked odd…

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    • #43048
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hawks remain on pace for 82 points.

    • #43049
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Hawks remain on pace for 82 points.

      Refs on pace for 104 going by the calls I have seen.

    • #43090
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      One nice thing to see from this young team is getting points inspite of the refs on the ice.

      I felt they were a bit slower in the 2nd and 3rd period i wonder if Blashill will dial back the practices a little. I hear they are working them hard.

    • #43101
      Haru
      Participant

      One nice thing to see from this young team is getting points inspite of the refs on the ice.

      Totally blown call. Lankinan is in the seated splits facing the half boards. He can only spin to his right or left while seated or snow angel while Bertuzzi is whacking at the puck. He chooses to rotate towards Bertuzzi allowing Bert to whack at the exposed puck. Ref must think Bertuzzi’s stick caused Lankinen’s rotation. Only way Bertuzzi could do that is if he whacked with a sledgehammer. Another tell-tale sign was after the puck went in Lankinen was trying to fish the puck out of the corner of the net. Goalies will be the first to tell you they were interfered with.

    • #43103
      Assman22
      Participant

      Hard to believe that they still have seven 1st round picks not yet playing with the big club, and two more this coming draft. There will not be room for all of them, however not at that bridge yet.

      KK
      Allan
      Boisvert
      Vanacker
      Frondell
      Nestrasil
      West

      Oliver Moore says hi!

    • #43152
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Kaiser is playing great he was all over the ice last night, Korchinski, Del Mastro, and Allan have their work cut out for them which is a good problem to have.

      The slotting for our defenseman is really nice and i think we layer well against opponents so long as a forward covers the slot.

    • #43181
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      So remember when i talked about the owning the Panthers 1st round pick not protected?

      4 losses in a row, i don’t even know half their roster today, hahaha, if we have 2 lottery picks this year Holy crap….

    • #43195
      Assman22
      Participant

      So remember when i talked about the owning the Panthers 1st round pick not protected?

      4 losses in a row, i don’t even know half their roster today, hahaha, if we have 2 lottery picks this year Holy crap….

      Yes and how about the Islanders second round pick Wiz had mentioned as well?

    • #43202
      Assman22
      Participant

      Anyone else see Middleton light up Dutch center ice and then absolutely pummel the living shit out of Petrovic (who stuck up for Dutch)? I believe that Petrovic landed 1 right and Middleton scored 3 rights, 2 uppercuts, 4 vicious rabbit punches, and finished him with a spinebuster.

    • #43295
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Hogs win again tonight killed 20 straight penalties. Streak ended tonight

      Lardis 1G 1A
      Moore 1A

      Korchinski 2 apples

      Russian looked good in goal, killed 6 of 7 penalties, hahaha

    • #43332
      Haru
      Participant

      Anyone else see Middleton light up Dutch center ice and then absolutely pummel the living shit out of Petrovic (who stuck up for Dutch)? I believe that Petrovic landed 1 right and Middleton scored 3 rights, 2 uppercuts, 4 vicious rabbit punches, and finished him with a spinebuster.

      What??? No suplex followed by a figure-four leg lock??

    • #43473
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      That was a very entertaining game! Loved the back and forth. The Hawks were hemmed in their zone for a bit but it was the only time. They did well getting the puck out. Can’t wait for the next time they play the Ducks. We haven’t seen this kind of hockey for years!

    • #43591

      Let’s see: Bedard headed towards a $12M aav “bridge deal,” Nazar and Rinzel are the real deal nice drafting KD, the young D as a whole is quicker and improved, whose place will Moore take in January? Reichel what little bit he played looked engaged, Lardis and Nestrisil are knocking on the door West and Boisvert to follow. I’m feeling like our long lost eternal optimist “Simple Jack.”

    • #43595
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Let’s see: Bedard headed towards a $12M aav “bridge deal,” Nazar and Rinzel are the real deal nice drafting KD, the young D as a whole is quicker and improved, whose place will Moore take in January? Reichel what little bit he played looked engaged, Lardis and Nestrisil are knocking on the door West and Boisvert to follow. I’m feeling like our long lost eternal optimist “Simple Jack.”

      simple Jack can be found occasionally on HF boards.

    • #43678
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Prospect Roman Kantserov is tied for 7th in KHL scoring, tied for 1st in goals, and leads all KHL players whose rights are owned by NHL teams.
      #Blackhawks have another good one on the way.
      He’s also been given an ‘A’ for Metallurg, at the age of 21.

      Have a great night

    • #43685
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Let’s see: Bedard headed towards a $12M aav “bridge deal,” Nazar and Rinzel are the real deal nice drafting KD, the young D as a whole is quicker and improved, whose place will Moore take in January? Reichel what little bit he played looked engaged, Lardis and Nestrisil are knocking on the door West and Boisvert to follow. I’m feeling like our long lost eternal optimist “Simple Jack.”

      Hey rpete, never saw such a long post from you. It’s like a novel……. Anyway, what’s your point? That the arrow for your club is stiffly pointing straight up from top to bottom of the organIzation and the PTSD from the tank yrs makes you think you can’t have nice things?

    • #43687
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Prospect Roman Kantserov is tied for 7th in KHL scoring, tied for 1st in goals, and leads all KHL players whose rights are owned by NHL teams.
      #Blackhawks have another good one on the way.
      He’s also been given an ‘A’ for Metallurg, at the age of 21.

      Have a great night

      Frenchy, do you have access to TOI, if Kantserov is on special teams or what line he skates on? And, I forget how long the kid is tied to his club and allowed to leave Putin’s Russia?

    • #43691
      Metalhead
      Participant

      And, I forget how long the kid is tied to his club and allowed to leave Putin’s Russia?

      He is in the final year of his current contract.

    • #43938

      For the 999th try to Rico:
      Yes I’m optimistic. I also forgot Frondell but I’m very skeptical of his level of competition. Lots of space they look like they’re “lollygagging.” Many of his goals wouldn’t convert at the NHL/AHL level. But he is the best of where he’s at.

    • #43949
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Is anyone aware if private messaging is available on this site?

      I emailed Bill Meltzer requesting private messaging.
      He replied that they don’t allow it because on some previous site it became abused.
      People were hitting PMs to attack each other.

      It seems like that could be avoided by adding it and setting the default to “off” but it’s his site so….

    • #43975
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I emailed Bill Meltzer requesting private messaging.
      He replied that they don’t allow it because on some previous site it became abused.

      Muchas gracias.

    • #44141
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Frenchy with another nice read, he really is able to get into the analytics of players.

    • #44165
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Interesting, there is a trade pitch out there, Soda for Primeau, Robertson and someone else? Gotta say the way Soda is playing the 2028 first round pick of the Leafs is where we start the convo….

    • #44180
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Although for now i like the make up of this team and its age especially on the back end. It’d be hard for me to trade Soda.

      This will be fun, I’m sure there will be a bunch of trade wishes when our babies start entering the league.

    • #44189
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I recall many raving the Sharks rebuild? What is that 17 losses in a row going back to last season now? Goes to show no one really knows, good news for them is better odds for McKenna.

    • #44204
      Assman22
      Participant

      Interesting, there is a trade pitch out there, Soda for Primeau, Robertson and someone else? Gotta say the way Soda is playing the 2028 first round pick of the Leafs is where we start the convo….

      They just claimed Primeau, why trade for him? Robertson is one of many smurfs on Toronto or in their prospect pool so no thank you and it shows their hand on what they’ll do with him as an RFA.

      Happy to trade away Soda for the right price. They do have Holinka and Hopkins in the prospect pool. Toronto would have to move some more NHL salary to afford Soda’s cap hit. I would be interested in Dakota Joshua as this team could use some sandpaper in the lineup. Great intangibles guy as well. Dots, would you trade Soda for Joshua straight up?

    • #44326
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I recall many raving the Sharks rebuild? What is that 17 losses in a row going back to last season now? Goes to show no one really knows, good news for them is better odds for McKenna.

      3 years in a row of SJ losing 50+ is a definite thing. Guess that is how a “real” rebuild is done. I feel sorry for Askirov not having any defensive support.

    • #44328
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      You can read my ranking below:

      Top 32 NHL Draft 2026

      Sure can read the scout in your rankings, Frenchy. The short bits of context have some meat and had me read em all….. Interesting as I was reading Nemac, and without seeing him, I immediately thought Lardis except for the skating. I gotta hunt the kid down for a look see. Like many, we see these guys at the WJC of their draft yr making it a great high pressure international tournament where a lotta opinions get shaped.

      Interesting too, yrs are starting to go by that The Program doesn’t have a kid being considered near the top 10 when a short 4-5 yrs ago they were flush with high end top 10 prospects.

      You gonna do your own mid yr ranking, Frenchy? … That one is always fun cuz things change and we get a few kids that come outa nowhere.

    • #44329
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I recall many raving the Sharks rebuild? What is that 17 losses in a row going back to last season now? Goes to show no one really knows, good news for them is better odds for McKenna.

      3 years in a row of SJ losing 50+ is a definite thing. Guess that is how a “real” rebuild is done. I feel sorry for Askirov not having any defensive support.

      What do you think of Askarov, AssMan? Crazy off the charts athlete but wow, he has one helluva chaotic crease.

    • #44332
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The thing that keeps bouncing around in my brain is if Waite can teach guys like Mrazek, Soda, Lankinen and others to be solid goalies in the NHL, how good can Knight end up being?

    • #44336
      Assman22
      Participant

      What do you think of Askarov, AssMan? Crazy off the charts athlete but wow, he has one helluva chaotic crease.

      Askarov, like many young Russian prospects, has a shitty self-entitled attitude but the skill is 100% legit. His classic wide stance works well with his super quick reflexes but so far in the NHL he’s been quick to drop his pads but needs to keep his back more straight so he doesn’t give up the high blocker shots and that’s been his downfall thus far in his limited time in the NHL. The game will eventually slow down for him and hopefully they keep their goalies at a 50/50 split otherwise I’d be pretty concerned that all the losing and GA will lead to confidence issues which is the kiss of death for goalies (similar to MLB relievers) as we all know. Askarov has never been on a really bad defensive team like this in his career either, so I’d keep an extra careful eye on him on a game-by-game basis but Grier’s an amazing GM and sure he’s on top of that. Sharks also have plenty of vets on the team and bet they’ve been tasked with assuring him “it’s them, not him”. All the new faces on defense are likely still learning the systems although the worst kept secret in their organization is that Warsofsky is a placeholder for the dark years a la Dale Sveum.

    • #44365
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Seems a way to go, but, we are all watching a rise our opinions of the pro talent we are ready to attach + and more to many of them, or sticking around as fans to witness all the improvements as the player pieces the goal on out, I love things in which I am feeling hockey family is guiding the path from unacceptable product to a nice effort from all the Blackhawk and friends shelling the $ out to eventually will see the winning product again,
      Yes!

    • #44395
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      For the 999th try to Rico:
      Yes I’m optimistic. I also forgot Frondell but I’m very skeptical of his level of competition. Lots of space they look like they’re “lollygagging.” Many of his goals wouldn’t convert at the NHL/AHL level. But he is the best of where he’s at.

      Left Hook, I read your post the same way I look at the totality of this thing. That, especially this yr, every damn thing from the jrs kids to the big leaguers to all of all of management is coming up spades in my mind with loads more of 1st and 2nd rd picks in the hole. So much so I have to ask myself am I digesting this objectively or am I a fan boy cuz I know things don’t work that way, especially for my organIzation. ….. That it’s near too good to be true…….That’s how I took your post, Lefty.

      And, in case of any confusion I love your short to the point posts/thoughts.

    • #44399
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      What do you think of Askarov, AssMan? Crazy off the charts athlete but wow, he has one helluva chaotic crease.

      Askarov, like many young Russian prospects, has a shitty self-entitled attitude but the skill is 100% legit. His classic wide stance works well with his super quick reflexes but so far in the NHL he’s been quick to drop his pads but needs to keep his back more straight so he doesn’t give up the high blocker shots and that’s been his downfall thus far in his limited time in the NHL. The game will eventually slow down for him and hopefully they keep their goalies at a 50/50 split otherwise I’d be pretty concerned that all the losing and GA will lead to confidence issues which is the kiss of death for goalies (similar to MLB relievers) as we all know. Askarov has never been on a really bad defensive team like this in his career either, so I’d keep an extra careful eye on him on a game-by-game basis but Grier’s an amazing GM and sure he’s on top of that. Sharks also have plenty of vets on the team and bet they’ve been tasked with assuring him “it’s them, not him”. All the new faces on defense are likely still learning the systems although the worst kept secret in their organization is that Warsofsky is a placeholder for the dark years a la Dale Sveum.

      If you’re like me you saw Askarov for the first time in a WJC and was astounded at the athleticism and freakishly quick kid who was 6ft 2in!! I’m in….. But looking closer as time went on this dude is really chaotic, probably too much for me. Same for Cossa but for different reasons except both have chaotic loud creases which means a chaotic Dzone and that leads to structural breakdowns both stopping clean looks and allowing for clean outs or rytem.. ….. I’m sold that Askarov will be an NHL #1 but not at all sold that Cossa will be one.

      Askarov’s style is damn hard to maintain long term consistency. I wouldn’t have used a mid 1st on him but you weren’t gonna get the kid without doing so. I’d eat em up in rd 2 but would pass using big capital on him………… But, the kid is a rare athlete and sometimes that’s enough. He has the crazy skills to prove naysayers wrong cuz this kid really is a freak.

      • #44456
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        There IS a age difference in Knight and Askarov, and good eye on the “cossack”…he is a scrambler, and some golaies through the ages HAVE succeed using their explosive reaction speed to stand ground in spots that don’t position him well in regards to be able to cover the entire home plate area.
        Askarov may end up being that guy.

        The two things Placzek ponders is

        Why was Nashville so ready to move on from him?

        (His trade departure didn’t solidy a Predator’s Cup but did it get a star back in his place?)

        And on Spencer Knight:
        Is coming alobg as starter, and since I need someone else to post the question to The Athletic’s Powers, since they banned me from posting there.

        Spencer Knight took a psch leave and I believe it was framed to the press that he had an OCD issue.

        I would like to know a bit more on that, since it might be performance-related, not him making sure his labubus are in a perfect line on the shelf.

        Wiz

      • #44544
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I wrote an article about him… few months ago

        Spencer Knight — The Toughest Save of His Life

        Let’s be honest — sometimes the biggest battles aren’t on the ice.

        In February 2023, Spencer Knight made a decision that took more courage than any glove save. He stepped away from hockey to take care of himself. The Panthers announced he had entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistance Program, and just like that, the young goalie disappeared from the lineup.

        No one knew the full story at first. But behind the scenes, Knight was fighting something real — Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

        The Pressure Behind the Mask

        Knight was supposed to be Florida’s goalie of the future — first-round pick, 13th overall in 2019, calm, confident, ready for the spotlight.
        But underneath all that, he was struggling with constant, intrusive thoughts that wouldn’t go away.

        He talked later about it: the hand-washing, the fear of contamination, the rituals that took over his mind. It started back at Boston College, but by 2023 it got worse.
        After one game in Winnipeg, he said he felt like he was “spiraling in a direction I didn’t want to go.”

        That’s when he made the hardest call of his young career — to ask for help.

        Stepping Away to Get Better

        On February 24, 2023, Knight entered the league’s assistance program.
        It meant time away from the Panthers, away from the noise, and away from the pressure to perform.

        But it also meant something bigger — a chance to breathe again.
        He said later that it was about “getting back to being himself,” and that simple idea is powerful.

        He didn’t quit. He reset.

        The Comeback

        When Knight returned to the ice a few months later for development camp, you could see it in his smile — the joy was back.
        He told reporters, “It’s just fun to get back in the swing of things.”

        That line says it all.
        Sometimes the game can swallow you up. Sometimes you need to step back to find your love for it again.

        Now, Knight’s story is no longer just about hockey — it’s about resilience, mental strength, and breaking the stigma around mental health in sports.

        More Than a Goalie

        Spencer Knight’s courage reminds us that even the best athletes are human.
        Behind every save and every celebration, there’s a person trying to keep it together — just like the rest of us.

        He didn’t just make a comeback on the ice. He made one in life.
        And maybe that’s the most important save he’ll ever make.

      • #44569
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        Thanks, Frenchy!

        I am glad (along with the rest of us “Buzz-bums”) that we are here with you!

        Appeciate you,

        Wiz

    • #44401
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      And yea AssMan, Askarov plays as low as any goalie you’ll ever see. He’s, anyone is, more explosive from an extreme crouch than a more upright stance but that’s his game.. Not sure how much you can take that outa his game but his athleticism is good enough for any style.

      But, now your talking about more of a project than a player who has an established foundation.. … Needless to say I’m a Knight guy not so much that he stops pucks but the way he stops them. It’s sustainable whereas with the Cossack you’re gonna have to fix some things first than hope it takes.

    • #44597
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Hawk Win!!!!! I think Donato is earning that paycheck!

    • #44619
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Feels good. I hope it lasts.

    • #44632
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Hawks win and Florida loses. That 5 losses out of 6 for the Panthers. Both Hawks 1st’s may be in the middle of the round at this rate.

      • #44652
        BJPHAWKFAN
        Participant

        At this rate, the Hawks’ pick could come after the Florida pick.

    • #44680
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hawks on pace for 102 points.
      🍆

    • #44696
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      According to @MoneyPuckdotcom
      , Spencer Knight leads all NHL goaltenders in Goals Saved Above Expected.

      Happy Friday…Spencer Knight GSVA

    • #44771
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The best save he made last night he didn’t get credit for. That back hand flip by Kucherov along the baseline and Knight had the presence of mind to duck under it and not knock it into his own net was one of the most impressive quick thinking paid I’ve ever seen by a goalie.

    • #44772
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Plays not paid

    • #44774
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I just added a video over at the Prospects forum about Kantserov. The host does a pretty good job, IMO, analyzing his play. Here’s the link to the forum:

      Blackhawks Prospect News 2025-2026

      • #44777
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Also in the Prospects forum (link above) is a link to an article about goalie prospect Adam Gajan and the things he is doing to improve his game and mindset. Good read.

    • #44780
      Haru
      Participant

      Thanks, Frenchy!

      I am glad (along with the rest of us “Buzz-bums”) that we are here with you!

      Appeciate you,

      Wiz

      Agreed wholeheartedly, although I never was able to post as a BuzzBum. My account never worked, so I was reading all of you in the background since Al C. was the blogger.

    • #44782
      Assman22
      Participant

      I need someone else to post the question to The Athletic’s Powers, since they banned me from posting there.

      Why did they ban you Wiz?!

      • #44806
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        It happened a few years back, and I have asked outright as to what exactly I was banned for and they just say post violation. It is not like I call poster’s out but may have educated someone, unless it was president related one in reply.

        What I WAS doing is if someone had a prospect opinion near draft time, I did link to many of the draft age players by LINK so I didn’t have to cut/paste AND it got people there to read others. (Don’t go there now, becasue I am in notebook comments now for 2026, not writing profiles. MY first couple rounds are correct in that they have the correct prospects, but haven’t started changinf re-arranging rankings either just yet.)

        The other thing on the Athletic I always go after Corey Pronman, who to me is less a watcher than a HEARer, using what scouts tell him are the players evaluations.

        I have been wanting to go back and call him for the original 2025 Draft list first round that included two players tha were not even drafted!

        But the only thing I did was a couple of times, I relayed the story when he was on the Sirius hockey channel in 2013 and when the host suggested that maybe Sasha Barkov was in the equal rankigs of Nate MacKinnon, Seth Jones, and Jonathan Drouin, Corey refused to consider him as on their levels…he was almost crying in his adamant refusal of Barkov as elite, and that he was correct.

        I posted and reposted with every huge leap where he ranked prospects crazy earlier than they should have been.
        I just think the parrot’s staff may =know stuff but he is pretty vanilla.

    • #44794

      We haven’t had a trio Rinzel, Nazur and Donato in 5 years who could pull off last nights winning goal. They’re technically our 2nd line but with the way Blashill’s mixing guys more like 1A and 1B.

    • #44796

      By bad it was Teuvo who stripped the puck. I think Rinzel had one earlier?

    • #44818
      Breagbag
      Participant

      According to @MoneyPuckdotcom
      , Spencer Knight leads all NHL goaltenders in Goals Saved Above Expected.

      Happy Friday…Spencer Knight GSVA

      He is at least top 3 goalie in the NHL so far this season, no question. This has been the biggest improvement for the Hawks year over year. Mrazek when he was on, was never in this category, he was just above average at best. It helps to have a goalie who is legit able to close the gap, he deserves so much credit for the Hawks points in the standings.

    • #44822
      Breagbag
      Participant

      By bad it was Teuvo who stripped the puck. I think Rinzel had one earlier?

      He did.

      I think Kucherov probably felt pretty bad after the goal against. He was stripped of the puck, he tried to stop the pass to Nazar and missed and then he was slow on the backcheck and Donato beat him to the open ice on the goal.

    • #44838
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      The best save he made last night he didn’t get credit for. That back hand flip by Kucherov along the baseline and Knight had the presence of mind to duck under it and not knock it into his own net was one of the most impressive quick thinking paid I’ve ever seen by a goalie.

      Dots, my opinion hasn’t changed a bit from the day KD hit that grand slam trade…. I can’t believe Knight is a Hawk. Can not believe our luck as Hawk fans. If his career goes as it damn well might they’re gonna raise Jones’ number to the rafters for being the trade piece to make Knight a Hawk.

    • #44843
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      We haven’t had a trio Rinzel, Nazur and Donato in 5 years who could pull off last nights winning goal. They’re technically our 2nd line but with the way Blashill’s mixing guys more like 1A and 1B.

      Don’t know about you but I can’t pause or rewind games so it’s a chore to keep up with who’s on the ice together and what line it is. Fun though watching Blashill mix and match….. Dude is batting like 1.000 this yr with his shuffling while keeping the whole thing “normal” enough for the players that they pretty much keep their structure.

    • #44847
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Reichel dumped to VAN for a 2027 4th round pick.

      • #44869
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        Their new centre an replacement for J T Miller…

    • #44867
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Makes sense, watching again last night makes one good defensive effort out of 4 or 5. Plays like a passenger, wish him luck but no reason to keep him on with hungrier players behind him.

    • #44888
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Reichel dumped to VAN for a 2027 4th round pick.

      Not much return, but sounds like Reichel is the one that asked for a trade. Honestly, I think some of this is on the Hawks coaches who spent too much time trying to make him into something he isn’t.

    • #44926
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Reichel dumped to VAN for a 2027 4th round pick.

      Not much return, but sounds like Reichel is the one that asked for a trade. Honestly, I think some of this is on the Hawks coaches who spent too much time trying to make him into something he isn’t.

      We’re gonna find out to some degree if the Hawks handled Reichel poorly. I hope the kid can find what’s missing but I’m not expecting much. Thru multiple coaches, good and bad, every benefit of every doubt for a few yrs now, preferential slotting and the guy finds ways to disappear the majority of the time.

      But sure, a case can be made that most prospects wouldn’t make it thru the tank yrs. … Vancouver is a solid squad and looked good v the Hawks a week ago. Not a bad place to land for the Kraut.

    • #44935
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Thanks, Frenchy!

      I am glad (along with the rest of us “Buzz-bums”) that we are here with you!

      Appeciate you,

      Wiz

      Agreed wholeheartedly, although I never was able to post as a BuzzBum. My account never worked, so I was reading all of you in the background since Al C. was the blogger.

      Wow, you’re going back a lotta yrs if you were reading Al at HB. Sucks you couldn’t post but I remember you from somewhere. I don’t get around to too many message boards on the internets but I could swear I know a Haru from somewhere. .. You post anywhere else under that name?

      With each game that goes by the Hawks are giving us more and more to post about and so far nearly every bit of it is good this yr. You got a lotta catching up to do.

    • #44971
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The writing was on the wall with Reichel. If he couldn’t figure out KD had a type in drafting guys who competed defensively that’s on Reichel.

      I am 100% for developing and giving your prospects chances, but if that player doesn’t have that inner dog in him it’s always best to cut ties with them.

    • #45035
      Haru
      Participant

      Wow, you’re going back a lotta yrs if you were reading Al at HB. Sucks you couldn’t post but I remember you from somewhere. I don’t get around to too many message boards on the internets but I could swear I know a Haru from somewhere. .. You post anywhere else under that name?

      No. That’s just the name of the central character of a Japanese TV drama about hockey in Japan.

    • #45078
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      As disappointed as i am that Reichel could barely find his inner dog, I’m excited to see the team defense get better and knowing we got a few kids at the Rock that have that compete in their DNA.

    • #45132
      Metalhead
      Participant

      From Scott Powers’ article today:
      “Hawks are allowing, on average, more shot attempts, more shots on goal, more scoring chances and more high-danger chances than they did last season.

      Also,
      overall:
      defensive zone percentage 43.8 ranks 31st
      offensive zone percentage 38.3 ranks 32nd

      at even strength:
      defensive zone percentage 42.8 ranks 28th
      offensive zone percentage 38.7 ranks 29th

    • #45137
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Yea i saw all that info by Powers.

      I personally feel the Blackhawks are creating way more pressure on the puck in the defensive zone, so less time and space and limiting the opponent to less assists across the middle of the ice.

      I equate analytics to this, the 1985 bears had one of the best defenses ever, the 1986 Bears defense set the NFL record for allowing the least amount of points against in a season. Analytically the 1986 bears defense was better but everyone knows the 1985 Bears defense was probably one of the best ever.

    • #45214
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Watching the hogs last night, looking forward to Moore playing in the bigs he’s the opposite of Reichel he’s a kid who skates with purpose and the team defense will be better for it.

    • #45219
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Frenchy wrote about Kantserov today.

      Chicago: Prospect Roman Kantserov Making Noise

    • #45220
      boilermaker
      Participant

      <p style=”line-height: 27px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s17-styled=”true” data-line-height-feature-value=”1″>Watching the hogs last night, looking forward to Moore playing in the bigs he’s the opposite of Reichel he’s a kid who skates with purpose and the team defense will be better for it.

      And some of the other prospects had good games last night.

      Boisvert with an assist in BU’s 3-1 win.
      Mustard with a goal and assist in Providence’s win.
      Vanacker with a goal (empty netter) and assist in Brantford’s win.
      Nestrasil with a goal and an apple in UMass’s loss.
      Gajan give up 1 goal in UMD’s 4-1 win. He is now 7-1 on the season with a 1.25 GAA and .938 Save %.

    • #45227
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Boiler i read that article by Frenchy which was good, it wouldn’t let me post.

      I saw snippet somewhere that said the last time or only kid his age was over a point per game in the KHL was Kaprizov.

      You know me boiler I’m really excited about the pipeline. One day they are going to be suffocating as a team.

    • #45236
      Haru
      Participant

      Boiler i read that article by Frenchy which was good, it wouldn’t let me post.

      I saw snippet somewhere that said the last time or only kid his age was over a point per game in the KHL was Kaprizov.

      You know me boiler I’m really excited about the pipeline. One day they are going to be suffocating as a team.

      Yeah it’s great knowing that your pipeline has some youth that are associated statistically with superstars at a young age, with Kantserov being mentioned with Kaprisov, and Frondell with Pasternak and Nylander. Of course these are just stats, and anything can happen, but just watching these two with the skills that they possess, it’s just exciting to imagine what this team will morph into.

      Thanks Coach for this write up. Made my day. Now hopefully the Hawks take it to the Kings!

    • #45320

      The writing was on the wall with Reichel. If he couldn’t figure out KD had a type in drafting guys who competed defensively that’s on Reichel.

      I am 100% for developing and giving your prospects chances, but if that player doesn’t have that inner dog in him it’s always best to cut ties with them.

      Reichel never showed any game, either last season or this season. He obviously didn’t show much in practice either. If he thought he was cutting it he was way off. I don’t think we’re talking about Patrick Sharp going from Philly to Chicago. More like Alex Nylander.

    • #45346
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Reichel

      The 4th round 2027 pick the Hawks received back for Reichel is their own which was sent to VAN in the trade for Mikheyev, Lafferty, VAN 2nd round pick. Lafferty moved on and was reacquired. That trade tree can now be looked at as Mik and the 2nd for Reichel.

      Mikheyev turned out pretty well for a cap dump. That new trade tree looks pretty good to me also.

    • #45429
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Roman with his 13th goal of the season in 20 games

      Roman K.

    • #45434
      Haru
      Participant

      Reichel never showed any game, either last season or this season. He obviously didn’t show much in practice either. If he thought he was cutting it he was way off. I don’t think we’re talking about Patrick Sharp going from Philly to Chicago. More like Alex Nylander.

      Agree. I thought Alex Nylander too, although I really wanted both to succeed. They both seem kind of lost out there, not knowing where to go. Oh well there’s still a chance for Reichel to turn it around.

    • #45447
      Breagbag
      Participant

      From Scott Powers’ article today:
      “Hawks are allowing, on average, more shot attempts, more shots on goal, more scoring chances and more high-danger chances than they did last season.

      Also,
      overall:
      defensive zone percentage 43.8 ranks 31st
      offensive zone percentage 38.3 ranks 32nd

      at even strength:
      defensive zone percentage 42.8 ranks 28th
      offensive zone percentage 38.7 ranks 29th

      It’s true, the play on the ice isn’t that much different from last season. Some tweaks and some younger personnel, but there are still a lot of the same flaws. The big part right now is that the Hawks have been finishing chances at a high rate and getting much better than typical goaltending. Losing Mrazek and adding knight has been a huge swing in ability to stay in games.

      I might ruffle some feathers, but we don’t have a true #1 Center. Bedard is very talented, but he doesn’t at this time check all the boxes of a good and effective 1C. I’m not saying he doesn’t offer a lot, but the 200 foot game, the complete game, the board battles and everything that goes into it, it’s not at the level where you win more shifts than you lose yet. Nazar’s game is more complete but still he is growing into that top 6 C role and has more to round out. These are growing pains and things will work themselves out as more F bubble up through the system, but to me, Bedard will have to continue to improve his overall game or end up at wing.

      Levshunov to me right now, should be playing AHL minutes. He has talent and does a lot of good things but there are still struggles and he is only 19. This whole 11F and 7D is a Band-Aid over the real issue. How is he going to get better playing in his own end when the coach is afraid to put him on the ice in the Dzone? They can only shelter him for so long before they have to either pull off the Band-Aid and let him play or send him down.

      I’ll probably get flak for this too, but Kaiser should be and would be 3rd pair LD on a good team. I know he had a few good games to start the year and the coach has given him minutes, but the cracks have been showing against tougher competition. Grezlcyk is also a 3rd pair guy. The Hawks to be a better team would ultimately need another option in the top 4. The right side isn’t without issues either. Rinzel is learning on the job. Levshunov is inconsistent. Crevier is a 7th D. Murphy is wearing down and starting to really visibly struggle to keep up.

      I like the direction the team is heading in, but just saying we have a ways to go before the wins come more regular, because we are gonna continue to be outplayed, relying on goaltending and counter-attacking with speed to try to close the gap.

    • #45460

      When comparing this year to last year, you’re still comparing at this time to Richardson’s defensive scheme.

    • #45469
      Chunk
      Participant

      From Scott Powers’ article today:
      “Hawks are allowing, on average, more shot attempts, more shots on goal, more scoring chances and more high-danger chances than they did last season.

      Also,
      overall:
      defensive zone percentage 43.8 ranks 31st
      offensive zone percentage 38.3 ranks 32nd

      at even strength:
      defensive zone percentage 42.8 ranks 28th
      offensive zone percentage 38.7 ranks 29th

      It’s true, the play on the ice isn’t that much different from last season. Some tweaks and some younger personnel, but there are still a lot of the same flaws. The big part right now is that the Hawks have been finishing chances at a high rate and getting much better than typical goaltending. Losing Mrazek and adding knight has been a huge swing in ability to stay in games.

      I might ruffle some feathers, but we don’t have a true #1 Center. Bedard is very talented, but he doesn’t at this time check all the boxes of a good and effective 1C. I’m not saying he doesn’t offer a lot, but the 200 foot game, the complete game, the board battles and everything that goes into it, it’s not at the level where you win more shifts than you lose yet. Nazar’s game is more complete but still he is growing into that top 6 C role and has more to round out. These are growing pains and things will work themselves out as more F bubble up through the system, but to me, Bedard will have to continue to improve his overall game or end up at wing.

      Levshunov to me right now, should be playing AHL minutes. He has talent and does a lot of good things but there are still struggles and he is only 19. This whole 11F and 7D is a Band-Aid over the real issue. How is he going to get better playing in his own end when the coach is afraid to put him on the ice in the Dzone? They can only shelter him for so long before they have to either pull off the Band-Aid and let him play or send him down.

      I’ll probably get flak for this too, but Kaiser should be and would be 3rd pair LD on a good team. I know he had a few good games to start the year and the coach has given him minutes, but the cracks have been showing against tougher competition. Grezlcyk is also a 3rd pair guy. The Hawks to be a better team would ultimately need another option in the top 4. The right side isn’t without issues either. Rinzel is learning on the job. Levshunov is inconsistent. Crevier is a 7th D. Murphy is wearing down and starting to really visibly struggle to keep up.

      I like the direction the team is heading in, but just saying we have a ways to go before the wins come more regular, because we are gonna continue to be outplayed, relying on goaltending and counter-attacking with speed to try to close the gap.

      That’s the thing though. Very few, if any of these kids are finished products. I wouldn’t even call Vlasic finished yet, so of course they won’t be playing like real top-4 D or top 6 F’s. 100% 11/7 is a Band-Aid, but it’s being used because they have more D that are ready than F’s. As much as you, I, and everyone else hate to say it, this is what this year is supposed to look like.

      I’ve been on the “you don’t have to suck for multiple years” bandwagon, but the fact of the matter is that big FA’s will be less and less available in the next few years as the cap rises. Trades will also be difficult to pull off unless there is a team similar to the Hawks a few years ago who is intentionally tanking and only want picks or prospects back. The good news for the Hawks is that they have a high volume of top of the draft prospects. We all just have to be patient now and watch the kids grow up live.

    • #45473
      Angotti
      Participant

      From Scott Powers’ article today:
      “Hawks are allowing, on average, more shot attempts, more shots on goal, more scoring chances and more high-danger chances than they did last season.

      Also,
      overall:
      defensive zone percentage 43.8 ranks 31st
      offensive zone percentage 38.3 ranks 32nd

      at even strength:
      defensive zone percentage 42.8 ranks 28th
      offensive zone percentage 38.7 ranks 29th

      It’s true, the play on the ice isn’t that much different from last season. Some tweaks and some younger personnel, but there are still a lot of the same flaws. The big part right now is that the Hawks have been finishing chances at a high rate and getting much better than typical goaltending. Losing Mrazek and adding knight has been a huge swing in ability to stay in games.

      I might ruffle some feathers, but we don’t have a true #1 Center. Bedard is very talented, but he doesn’t at this time check all the boxes of a good and effective 1C. I’m not saying he doesn’t offer a lot, but the 200 foot game, the complete game, the board battles and everything that goes into it, it’s not at the level where you win more shifts than you lose yet. Nazar’s game is more complete but still he is growing into that top 6 C role and has more to round out. These are growing pains and things will work themselves out as more F bubble up through the system, but to me, Bedard will have to continue to improve his overall game or end up at wing.

      Levshunov to me right now, should be playing AHL minutes. He has talent and does a lot of good things but there are still struggles and he is only 19. This whole 11F and 7D is a Band-Aid over the real issue. How is he going to get better playing in his own end when the coach is afraid to put him on the ice in the Dzone? They can only shelter him for so long before they have to either pull off the Band-Aid and let him play or send him down.

      I’ll probably get flak for this too, but Kaiser should be and would be 3rd pair LD on a good team. I know he had a few good games to start the year and the coach has given him minutes, but the cracks have been showing against tougher competition. Grezlcyk is also a 3rd pair guy. The Hawks to be a better team would ultimately need another option in the top 4. The right side isn’t without issues either. Rinzel is learning on the job. Levshunov is inconsistent. Crevier is a 7th D. Murphy is wearing down and starting to really visibly struggle to keep up.

      I like the direction the team is heading in, but just saying we have a ways to go before the wins come more regular, because we are gonna continue to be outplayed, relying on goaltending and counter-attacking with speed to try to close the gap.

      I don’t disagree with your analysis of the young D. The bottom line is, well they’re young. Levshunov is definitely an adventure at this point, however I’d keep giving him minutes with the big club, he’s strong as an ox. I don’t recall which King tried to impede his progress yesterday, but he bounced right off of Arty. I still think that eventually the best option on the left side with Levshunov and top four is Del Mastro, with Vlasic and Rinzel rounding up the other pairing. The Hawks are still a lottery team, probably not bottom 5, more in the 6-10 range due to their goaltending. I can’t wait for EDM and Moore to graduate to the NHL, they’ll be upgrades to some on the current roster. For those that watch Rockford, how is EDM looking?

    • #45491
      Assman22
      Participant

      I can’t wait for EDM and Moore to graduate to the NHL, they’ll be upgrades to some on the current roster. For those that watch Rockford, how is EDM looking?

      I would also add Allan to the graduation list as I really think he’s ready to be an NHL stay-at home rearguard but he’s unfortunately tasked with being KK’s partner. Hawks need a shutdown pairing and honestly don’t have one right now. I hope to be able to catch more Rockford games going forward and would love to hear any player analysis from those that have watched at least a few of the games.
      On the outside looking in, Hogs are +5 in 7 games and EDM is +7 with 3 pts (3 helpers) in 7 games leading all blueliners and staying out of the box thus far. Meanwhile, KK +3 in 6 games with 4 pts and Allan +2 in 5 games with 1 pt. Both had concussions and both can’t seem to stay out of the box.

    • #45498
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I can’t wait for EDM and Moore to graduate to the NHL, they’ll be upgrades to some on the current roster. For those that watch Rockford, how is EDM looking?

      I would also add Allan to the graduation list as I really think he’s ready to be an NHL stay-at home rearguard but he’s unfortunately tasked with being KK’s partner. Hawks need a shutdown pairing and honestly don’t have one right now. I hope to be able to catch more Rockford games going forward and would love to hear any player analysis from those that have watched at least a few of the games.
      On the outside looking in, Hogs are +5 in 7 games and EDM is +7 with 3 pts (3 helpers) in 7 games leading all blueliners and staying out of the box thus far. Meanwhile, KK +3 in 6 games with 4 pts and Allan +2 in 5 games with 1 pt. Both had concussions and both can’t seem to stay out of the box.

      I think EDM really hurt his stock with his play in the preseason and start of the year. The spot was his to take and they ended up going with the PTO for Grezlcyk. He seems to have bounced back decently in the AHL which is promising.

    • #45503
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Just a quick reminder:

      Development isn’t a one way street.

      Organizations need to put players in positions to succeed, but players also need to take hold of the opportunity when it comes.

    • #45512
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Bread i take no issue in your assessment, i think it’s fair.

      Last 2 games are probably Kaisers worst. That’s the thing though for young players it’s about consistency. Last year and this year he is showing flashes of being a top 4 dman? Will he become one? Time will tell, but for now we have the luxury of giving him 160 games to show us.

      One thing is evident, how painfully slow Murphy is.

    • #45514
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Agree that Lev should be playing top, difficult AHL minutes, not sheltered NHL minutes.
      There’s no reason he can’t be moved up and down. Even Hammer was only a part time NHLer in his 20 and 21 year old seasons.
      Nothing wrong with rewarding AHL youngsters with a stint in the NHL when they have played well. Good way to identify strengths/weaknesses.
      Also: today is Lev’s final day as a teenager.

      Kaiser being a 3rd liner is an interesting point.
      From the end of the Cup era, he would obviously not crack the top 4 of Keith/Hammer/Seabrook/Oduya.
      However, he might already be better than the 3rd pairing guys of that era. (except maybe Leddy was on the 3rd pairing?)
      Were any of Brookbank, Cumiskey, Rundblad, Timmonen, TVR, etc. better than Kaiser?
      So, he might rank in-between the 2nd and 3rd pairings from the later BH Cup years.

      Lastly, if Mikheyev and Bertuzzi are out, without a callup they would have to use 11/7 Tuesday vs Ottawa.
      It’s been fine so far but doing it with 2 regulars out (one who is a top PK guy) seems like a mistake to me.
      Especially since one of the 11F is Lafferty, who has been healthy scratched most of the time.

      🤘

      • #45578
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        I have to agree with both of you on the two young defensemen.

        DelMastro has advanced his game by developing a quick reads and reactions as he develops; the question might be can he get to a point where he isn’t gassed and unable to hold possession on the NHL instantaneous convergence by checkers but I am not giving up on his potential too be a helpful backliner.

        The Arty opinion was where I started in the pre-season, that these over-eager Arty indulgences, deciding to put on his red cape and go defensively (or offensively for that matter) were too heavy burdens for the parent club to baby sit, AND show improvement.

        Then I figured he will never see the attacking skills and speed the big league players would be challenging him with in the AHL.

        I am a guy that sits you when you error by rolling out of where I want him to the end of the bench.

        I think that the staff has ALL had talks with him.
        I think it IS tempering his over exuberance.
        And I last game, he again stepped up and unsuspectantly hit an attacker with a power check away from the boards.

        Right now, my concern is how last game, the redhead #6 seemed like he was over-used, and the ice water in his veins we all have experienced since his arrival started melting to tepid.

        How lucky are we that San Rinzel WALKS in, gets the praise of opposing players and fills the power play and muches minutes UPON ARRIVAL!

        Now is the time to stop talking Calder and managing his minutes.

        I said a post back; this defense has three trees, Arty #44 and the two vets (both of who are better prepared for the now games).

        Arty is listening. (And I think we can assume big Sam is tree with unusual agility.

        The upside of this team is starting to arrive with the defensive system of play and teams are getting out sped to places.

        So unless Arty has a major faux pas and needs a wrist slap.

    • #45557
      Assman22
      Participant

      I think EDM really hurt his stock with his play in the preseason and start of the year. The spot was his to take and they ended up going with the PTO for Grezlcyk. He seems to have bounced back decently in the AHL which is promising.

      Just preseason and he also had a new system to learn. Not everyone is a quick learner but I will say I’d prefer EDM than Murph rn on the Hawks roster. Love Murph but he simply can’t keep up and is a liability on the ice. He’s already -3 in sheltered mins and next closest is Vlasic at -1 but he plays 5 mins more per game lol.

    • #45600
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I wonder if the Blackhawks are hoping that Arty will do what he has done in every league so far, 15 to 20 game mark the light goes on and he begins to be the best defender on the ice.

    • #45601
      boilermaker
      Participant

      15 to 20 game mark

      After tonight, Hawks begin a western 6 game road trip to kick off games 11-20 of the season. We’ll see how they perform and whether they can maintain their approximate .500 point percentage. Hopefully they can keep their heads above water and use the trip as a bonding experience.

      If Bert and Mik are injured, will they make the trip with 11 healthy forwards or bring up someone from Rockford for a week or so?

    • #45612
      popsghostly
      Participant

      For a team winning depending on higher shooting percentage and great goaltending, losing 2 top forwards in Bertuzzi and Mikheyev is going to be tough. I think this was demonstrated in the second period onward after Mikheyev went down. The third period had few chances. Let’s see how tonight’s game goes but I don’t see us scoring more than 2-3 goals. Hopefully I’m wrong.

    • #45619
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I think the Blackhawks got schooled by the Kings, next time a team opens it up and you have a lead you’ve got to treat that puck like gold. As soon as the Kings took the lead they slowed the game way down closed the blue line and the boys had a tough time keeping our gaining possession in the ozone

    • #45627
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Two nice things I’m seeing is the Blackhawks are giving fits to slow footed defenseman

      The other is the 50/50 pucks are much better for us in games.

      I want my dmen to stop trying to create a shot for now, if it’s not there either shoot it along the boards or try to bounce it off the back wall.

    • #45635
      Angotti
      Participant

      I have to agree with both of you on the two young defensemen.

      DelMastro has advanced his game by developing a quick reads and reactions as he develops; the question might be can he get to a point where he isn’t gassed and unable to hold possession on the NHL instantaneous convergence by checkers but I am not giving up on his potential too be a helpful backliner.

      The Arty opinion was where I started in the pre-season, that these over-eager Arty indulgences, deciding to put on his red cape and go defensively (or offensively for that matter) were too heavy burdens for the parent club to baby sit, AND show improvement.

      Then I figured he will never see the attacking skills and speed the big league players would be challenging him with in the AHL.

      I am a guy that sits you when you error by rolling out of where I want him to the end of the bench.

      I think that the staff has ALL had talks with him.
      I think it IS tempering his over exuberance.
      And I last game, he again stepped up and unsuspectantly hit an attacker with a power check away from the boards.

      Right now, my concern is how last game, the redhead #6 seemed like he was over-used, and the ice water in his veins we all have experienced since his arrival started melting to tepid.

      How lucky are we that San Rinzel WALKS in, gets the praise of opposing players and fills the power play and muches minutes UPON ARRIVAL!

      Now is the time to stop talking Calder and managing his minutes.

      I said a post back; this defense has three trees, Arty #44 and the two vets (both of who are better prepared for the now games).

      Arty is listening. (And I think we can assume big Sam is tree with unusual agility.

      The upside of this team is starting to arrive with the defensive system of play and teams are getting out sped to places.

      So unless Arty has a major faux pas and needs a wrist slap.

      I’m with you Wiz, let Arty continue his development against NHL competition. If I’m not mistaken he’s played in four leagues the last four years, and has improved every year as the season has moved along.

      The kid is strong as an ox, so he can handle the physicality of the NHL. This kid is going to be a beast in a couple of years.

      I was at the game in Tampa on Thursday, were you there by any chance? Bedard is playing a physical game and winning board battles, even though he didn’t score I was impressed with his game.

    • #45645
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Early in the 2nd period, in a late morning game, Rockford leads Chicago 6-0. Moore 1 G, Lardis 2 G, Savoie 1 G, Joey Anderson 1 G and Cates with a goal.

    • #45646
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Early in the 2nd period, in a late morning game, Rockford leads Chicago 6-0. Moore 1 G, Lardis 2 G, Savoie 1 G, Joey Anderson 1 G and Cates with a goal.

      I was checking that out too. Seemed like Lardis (2G 1A), Moore (1G 1A) and Korchinski(2A) are really going today in what I’ve seen.

    • #45656
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I came across and interesting quote on Twitter. Some praise for Lardis on his game away from the puck.

      @Chi_Prospects

      Here’s a quote from #IceHogs HC Jared Nightingale on Nick Lardis last week:
      “Before he started putting points up his play away from the puck and defensive game. He scored 70 goals in junior but his care and hockey IQ away from the puck…”

      “I think that’s what really got his game going these first five games. It’s awesome to see him get rewarded. When the puck is on his stick he’s a threat, but for his youth and inexperience at the pro level to pick up our defensive habits was really impressive.”

    • #45663
      Assman22
      Participant

      Anyone watching the Hogs vs Wolves right now? 6-1 Hogs and Lardis on hat trick watch. Just had 5 misconducts handed out (3 Wolves, 2 Hogs). Newly drafted Russian Ryabkin seems to have a short fuse. He has 28 PIM in 5 games but 14 PIM in the first game of the season vs Iowa and 12 PIM today. Welcome to North American hockey!

    • #45781
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s great to hear that the baby Hawks played really well today. It sounded like they really struggled against the eagles but then bounced back the next night to shut them out 4-0.

      I was really hoping to see the ice hogs play like this with a bunch of KD picks from 2022 and 2023 on the roster.

    • #45813
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Whoever said that wasn’t offside in the Toronto office should be fired. He did not maintain possession of the puck. This is why the NHL will always be considered a minor league to all of the major sports. I really lose it when I see crap like that. I also got what I have been waiting for all year. Bertuzzi explodes. That’s the guy I wanted to sign! Bedard had a hell of a game, but as usual, the refs were looking the other way when it came to penalizing Ottawa. I counted four penalties before the first one was called. Except for a three minute period, they executed well. Good for the boys!

    • #45820
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Just wanted to add, the thing I liked tonight, it was better management of the puck to me. Lots of small space passes to players and more poise with the puck on the stick tonight as a group. I didn’t think that after 10 games we’d have 33 goals for and only 25 against for +8. The team hasn’t had to trail very often usually had the lead or tied. Actually approaching the middle of the pack for shots against per game now, they’ve brought that average down under 30. -4.9 shot differential per game right now, which is still not great but this is where the small things get important. Win a couple more shifts a game, and suddenly that differential will start to even out. That might come from more guys selling out to block shots, getting more sticks in lanes, winning more draws or improving the cycle on the attack to get more offensive pressure as examples.

      Rinzel deserves so much credit too as a guy in his first real season playing the role he does on the top pair. Vlasic and Rinzel have been facing the other team’s top players (the numbers strongly back this up) and they’ve been a generally solid pair. They might become a pair that teams around the league hate to go up against.

    • #45876
      Assman22
      Participant

      Rinzel deserves so much credit too as a guy in his first real season playing the role he does on the top pair. Vlasic and Rinzel have been facing the other team’s top players (the numbers strongly back this up) and they’ve been a generally solid pair. They might become a pair that teams around the league hate to go up against.

      Agreed but Rinzel has been getting beat up lately and no one came to his aid last night in the 1st with that late hit behind the net. He’s already sporting a black eye as well. At what point does Kyle go out and bring someone in to protect his investments? Bring up EDM? And once they go to 12-6 again, they won’t be able to shield mins for Arty and our newest “3-wheeled shopping cart” Murphy.

    • #45880
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Pure Evil sniping by Bedard last night.
      Hawks on pace for 98 points.
      Bedard is also on pace for 98 points.

      Yeah, that should have been offside.
      However, when assessing the team and how it is progressing, it was horrific that they allowed an opponent to get loose like that.
      A 4-0 lead had quickly dropped to 4-2, no excuse for a guy getting behind the entire team.
      No matter if offside was called, or if Knight had made a great save, the mistake was glaring and should never have happened.

      It’s amazing how bad these 2nd periods have been.
      The team was much more poised and mature in the 3rd period, like they flipped a switch.

    • #45882
      Metalhead
      Participant

      once they go to 12-6 again, they won’t be able to shield mins for Arty

      Arty should be down in RFD, playing top pair and even some PK to learn how to stay calm in his own end.
      Send up whoever has played well enough to earn a stint in CHI.
      Then they can send Arty back up again, or rotate KK, Allan, EDM, and Arty.
      One of them might show he is ready to stay up.
      If not, you get better, updated NHL level feedback on what they need to work on.
      With Arty, it’s already clear. He’s a disaster in his own end.

    • #45907
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant
    • #45913
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Agreed but Rinzel has been getting beat up lately and no one came to his aid last night in the 1st with that late hit behind the net. He’s already sporting a black eye as well. At what point does Kyle go out and bring someone in to protect his investments? Bring up EDM? And once they go to 12-6 again, they won’t be able to shield mins for Arty and our newest “3-wheeled shopping cart” Murphy.

      Good points.

      From my seat, I would like to see Vlasic take more of the stand up for the teammate role. Not saying goon it up, but he does have the physical gifts, I think he holds back.

      You mentioned Murphy and we all know his groin issues and such are slowing him down, along with age creeping in, but I thought he had a better game last night. He had a couple really good hits, one that led to the shorthanded chance where Nazar and Foligno overpassed the puck. The dude is still getting a big share of the dzone draws, playing physical, and giving what he has out there. Out of all our D, the opposing team has the fewest shots on goal per 60(5v5) when Murphy is on the ice while he leads the team in dzone starts per 60 (5v5). His role has decreased a bit, but he hasn’t been a liability.

      I think Blashill has more so sheltered Grezlyck along with Levshunov as the two guys he doesn’t want to put out in the Dzone. With this 7 D rotation, it seems like Rinzel/Vlasic/Kaiser get a little bit of everything, Murphy/Crevier are specialized into Dzone minutes as much as possible. Grzelyck/Levshunov shelter from Dzone starts. I have to say, I think Grzelyck for his deficiencies in his own end, has done the stuff he is good at pretty well. Skates well, makes good passes to move the puck but he can be an adventure in his own end and isn’t very physical or gonna win a ton of battles. I think the good is outweighing the bad with him as long as the Hawks can keep him out of situations they don’t want him in, like defending in his end against a heavy forecheck team.

    • #45936
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Looks like Cooley signs for 8 x $10, i believe i saw last night defenseman for the stars sign Harley for about the same money and term.

    • #45960
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Just wanted to add, the thing I liked tonight, it was better management of the puck to me. Lots of small space passes to players and more poise with the puck on the stick tonight as a group. I didn’t think that after 10 games we’d have 33 goals for and only 25 against for +8. The team hasn’t had to trail very often usually had the lead or tied. Actually approaching the middle of the pack for shots against per game now, they’ve brought that average down under 30. -4.9 shot differential per game right now, which is still not great but this is where the small things get important. Win a couple more shifts a game, and suddenly that differential will start to even out. That might come from more guys selling out to block shots, getting more sticks in lanes, winning more draws or improving the cycle on the attack to get more offensive pressure as examples.

      Rinzel deserves so much credit too as a guy in his first real season playing the role he does on the top pair. Vlasic and Rinzel have been facing the other team’s top players (the numbers strongly back this up) and they’ve been a generally solid pair. They might become a pair that teams around the league hate to go up against.

      The Hawks have hit their ceiling with the way they manage the puck. Just went to check their fancies and see they have the top PDO number in the league. Zero doubt a correction is coming, the degree to which will be determined by puck management (possession). ….. But it all fits, really. A hungry, fast, highly skilled group (4 lines of it to some degree) is out playing the fancies.

      I think it’s logical to expect the possession numbers will only improve. That they are at their floor on that account. The kids will only gain experience thru each game and improve on Blashill’s wants. … And I’d add IMO their structure is exceptional to the degree of all the youth on the ice on top of learning aa new coach/systems. ………

    • #45994
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Pure Evil

      It’s amazing how bad these 2nd periods have been.
      The team was much more poised and mature in the 3rd period, like they flipped a switch.

      Keeping in mind LA and OTT play different styles the responses in both 3rd periods were different. OTT does have the 8th best GF% in the league so they are a good club but the Hawk speed, hunger and Bedard won that 3rd period with the LA game fresh in mind. ……

      Guys like Frenchy are gonna use the term response a lot this yr with the Hawks. They’ve shown they’re good enough to win on any night so finding consistency as they respond to many bad results/periods/shifts thru a full season will be frequent…

    • #46043
      Metalhead
      Participant

      https://www.bleachernation.com/blackhawks/2025/10/28/blackhawks-draft-and-develop-roster-building-approach-increasingly-the-nhl-reality/

      Some good info here

      Thanks, good article.
      I’ve maintained the idea that, if any really good players become available:
      a) it won’t be until summer 2027 at the earliest
      b) it won’t be like CHI and the TBL, who lost players due to a cap squeeze
      it will be because a few teams fail at or age out of their Cup Window, and go for an on-the-fly rebuild (like Montreal did)

    • #46046
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Keeping in mind LA and OTT play different styles the responses in both 3rd periods were different

      The result was different, but in both games the Hawks played much better hockey in the 3rd than in the 2nd.

      That was my point. Both games featured a better BH team in the 3rd period.
      I understand the long change is in the 2nd, but nothing struck me as really poor with that.
      Did I miss some really poor changes leading to goals?

      🤘

    • #46110
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I believe when it comes to the long changes for the Blackhawks, 2 things, the dmen forget when the player is going off the ice the player coming in can sneak behind them off the bench, 2nd they need to play 200 feet of hockey, so shooting it in and getting off the ice so they keep shifts short especially when leading.

      Id like to see the dmen use their legs more to get the puck out and force the forwards to come up and play them so they create better passing lanes

    • #46114
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Let’s see Ottawa s 1st goal was lucky, bounced off the back wall hit the back of Knights glove on the fly and went in the net.

      2nd goal there was a breakdown of coverage in our own zone, big enemy of the goalie he was 5 feet in front Knight with a ton of time and space and as he waited Knight looks like he leaned forward which exposed the top half of the net and he buried it.

      3rd goal Kaiser made a bad pinch.

      They did get a couple of 2 on 1 chances they missed on, this is where i think they lose the replacement forward coming off the bench

    • #46126
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      They are getting absolutely schooled by the Jets. 4-1 in the second. I can’t watch anymore.

    • #46128
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Another rough 2nd period for the Hawks.
      Not as glaringly incompetent as the past two games, but they got schooled overall.

      • #46129
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        It’s just how I am…we start losing, and I find someone to be peeved about:
        This new play by play Rick Ball is hyping Louis Crevier in the late second period…
        Louis made me mad with his being caught out off his position on that earlier goal would have been enough to not hear name, he was an unmentionable after that goal against.
        Quiet about him, Mr. Rick

    • #46134
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I hear you Wiz that was a bad pinch after a long offensive keep by the Blackhawks.

      Peg has made them pay for every defensive mistake, like the pk and the wide open forward in front of the net

      Or Rinzel trying to stick handle at the blue line, again.

      Growing pains

      • #46135
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        And what you saw of TT #86 at the 14 minutes left mark, well, that will be all he gives right there.

    • #46137
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Nifty stick skill there by Burko.
      Hopefully more of that to come this year.

    • #46140
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I liked the push back, there was some gaps in their D, i can’t wait till the young D learn when to pinch and not to.

    • #46141
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I hope next time they play they are physical with Scheifele, watching the playoffs last year it affects his play.

    • #46142
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Even with this whippin’ they’re still a better team than we’ve seen for a while.
      I still don’t understand these 2nd periods. So bad.
      On to EDM and McJesus.

      Hawks on pace for 89 points.

    • #46143
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I apologize — no Game Threads tonight. I wasn’t able to sign in earlier, and it seems the system is finally back up but still running slowly.

      I’ll be honest, it’s been a frustrating night. I spent a lot of time writing a full article after the first 10 games, but HHS hasn’t published it yet — completely out of my control.

      And to top it off, a rough game for the Blackhawks tonight. Sorry again, everyone, and thanks for your patience.

      Frenchy

    • #46148
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      No worries Frenchy, i figured that was the case since i couldn’t sign in today until tonight, i appreciate what you do and how much you do it.

    • #46151
      Angotti
      Participant

      No worries Frenchy, i figured that was the case since i couldn’t sign in today until tonight, i appreciate what you do and how much you do it.

      Same here, appreciate your blogs coach, once this site starts humming you’ll see a lot more traffic here.

    • #46199
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      They are getting absolutely schooled by the Jets. 4-1 in the second. I can’t watch anymore.

      Exactly right, perfect word, schooled. WPG is the oldest (vets) in the league and are a playoff team with a top goalie. They can neutralize speed and can exploit youth/weaknesses. ……. As the season goes by these games will happen especially if Knight isn’t playing crazy good.

      Expected and ok. Learn and respond. No team doesn’t go thru this…. The roster is littered with inexperience and is in the process of learning just being the fastest super skilled team ain’t enough. LA and Peg showed em that and that’s expected and ok. … Let’s see the response(s), that’s what matters.

    • #46210
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      It’s just how I am…we start losing, and I find someone to be peeved about:
      This new play by play Rick Ball is hyping Louis Crevier in the late second period…
      Louis made me mad with his being caught out off his position on that earlier goal would have been enough to not hear name, he was an unmentionable after that goal against.
      Quiet about him, Mr. Rick

      Wiz, Ball is ok but I’d rather not listen to him. You’re not gonna get good hockey sense IQ comments outa Ball. He’s got too much homer in his call as you point out with My Guy Crevier. Very generic, a vanilla call that promotes the Hawk’s company line. You can be sure Ball will never ruffle any feathers …… And, Pang makes him worse although there is no telecast that is good with Pang as a part of it. Crazy that an NHL goalie knows so little about what he’s seeing. A nerd that insists you allow him into the crowd with the fellas.

      Bad pinch by Crevier. Kaiser had one last game and both pinches started the sequence of a goal against. .. Bright side is you can see Blashill allows (wants/encourages?) them to make plays. That it’s ok to take a chance and we’ll coach up bad decisions as they come. But, go make a play. ……… You see Rinzel do the same drag in front of an opponent at the opposing blueline, same spot to, that turned into a turnover and goal against LA? He coughed that puck too but it wasn’t fatal. Point is he wasn’t scared to do the same thing that led to a goal against he had last game… Coach is letting them learn and make mistakes while encouraging them to make plays.

    • #46233
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I liked the push back, there was some gaps in their D, i can’t wait till the young D learn when to pinch and not to.

      Dots, that’s the thing I liked the first time I saw Kaiser in jrs. Kid’s reads were pretty good but what drew me in was he acted on his decisions immediately, No in between with the kid. He reads and goes and usually his reads are at least ok. ….. Dmen make 100 reads a game. They’re fun to watch cuz man, it ain’t easy dealing with the high skill the league has. Watching a Dman read and react is fun.

      I do like that Blashill allows mistakes to make plays and then coaches em up on those mistakes.

    • #46235
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I met my November deadline of a 2026 NHL MOCK draft.

      I will now go back and starting adding the meat to the profiles.

      I do not know if I am allowed to link it, which I will do in a reply.

      just type in. 2026 NHL Mock Draft Lines projected lines

    • #46240
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I guess this is a good time to ask. I mentioned following Burakovsky since he came up with WSH and that the dude showed real skill with good size and the guy can skate. He’s shown that as a Hawk…….. Yet in 700 NHL games he’s averaged .54 pts per game. You’d think he’d be a top 6 NHLer putting up at least 60 pts per but for some reason it seems he’ll never reach his ceiling.

      Love to see you chime in Frenchy but would like to see what Hawk fans feel as well…… Either way, great signing by KD. I thought with his skills he’d fit with Bedard and he sure has. Going by his stats over 700 NHL games seems we got the good Burakovsky.

    • #46244
      Haru
      Participant

      I guess this is a good time to ask. I mentioned following Burakovsky since he came up with WSH and that the dude showed real skill with good size and the guy can skate. He’s shown that as a Hawk…….. Yet in 700 NHL games he’s averaged .54 pts per game. You’d think he’d be a top 6 NHLer putting up at least 60 pts per but for some reason it seems he’ll never reach his ceiling.

      Love to see you chime in Frenchy but would like to see what Hawk fans feel as well…… Either way, great signing by KD. I thought with his skills he’d fit with Bedard and he sure has. Going by his stats over 700 NHL games seems we got the good Burakovsky.

      What I like about him is that he’s one of the few forwards that can make zone entries with pace, other than Bedard or Nazar, and still maintain control and find an open teammate. He seems to have good hands and vision. Hopefully he can stay healthy and keep the first line buzzing.

    • #46248
      Angotti
      Participant

      I guess this is a good time to ask. I mentioned following Burakovsky since he came up with WSH and that the dude showed real skill with good size and the guy can skate. He’s shown that as a Hawk…….. Yet in 700 NHL games he’s averaged .54 pts per game. You’d think he’d be a top 6 NHLer putting up at least 60 pts per but for some reason it seems he’ll never reach his ceiling.

      Love to see you chime in Frenchy but would like to see what Hawk fans feel as well…… Either way, great signing by KD. I thought with his skills he’d fit with Bedard and he sure has. Going by his stats over 700 NHL games seems we got the good Burakovsky.

      If he plays with Bedard all year, he’ll put up 60 or more points, especially if he stays on PP1.

    • #46251
      boilermaker
      Participant

      I met my November deadline of a 2026 NHL MOCK draft.
      I will now go back and starting adding the meat to the profiles.
      I do not know if I am allowed to link it, which I will do in a reply.
      just type in. 2026 NHL Mock Draft Lines projected lines

      Wiz, A while back I started a 2025-2026 Prospects News forum. Link it here so we can easily find all types of present/future prospect news.

      Blackhawks Prospect News 2025-2026

    • #46260
      Metalhead
      Participant

      re: Burko

      Could some of that 0.54/game be due to his injuries?
      Has “coming back from” or “dealing with” injuries been an ongoing factor with him?

      from NHL dot com:
      “Injuries limited him to 64 games in 2016-17 and 56 in 2017-18, though he had 60 points (24 goals, 36 assists) in the 120 games he did play.”
      If he’s regularly dinged, maybe that has limited his effectiveness?

      Mentions of his playoff success:
      “Burakovsky was one of the unsung heroes in the Washington Capitals’ first Stanley Cup championship. After missing most of the first two rounds of the 2018 playoffs with an upper-body injury,
      Burakovsky scored two goals in the second period of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference Final to help the Capitals defeat the Tampa Bay Lightning 4-0 and advance to the Stanley Cup Final
      for the first time since 1998. He also had four assists in Washington’s five-game victory against the Vegas Golden Knights in the Final.”
      and with the Avs:
      “a pivotal overtime goal against the Lightning in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final

      overall playoff stats look pretty good:
      “In 93 career playoff games, André Burakovsky has 20 goals, 27 assists, and a plus-minus rating of +14.
      He has also scored 3 game-winning goals in the playoffs and has 2 goals and 5 assists in 7 Stanley Cup Finals games.”

      Hopefully he’s Mikheyev 2.0 for the Hawks.

    • #46291
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      J.J. Wiebusch is a 6’0”, 176-pound right-shot forward in his second season with Penn State University. Undrafted to this point, he’s turning heads early in 2025-26 with 11 goals in his first 10 games — one of the hottest starts in the NCAA.

      After a 33-point freshman campaign (14 G, 19 A in 40 GP) and a breakout 63-point season in Sioux Falls (USHL, 2023-24), Wiebusch has proven he can consistently produce offense at every level.

      He’s not known for his physical play, but his offensive instincts stand out. Wiebusch owns a quick release, a deceptive wrist shot, and a knack for finding soft ice in scoring areas. His skating is average overall, yet he compensates with smart positioning and timing.

      While there’s nothing that currently separates him enough to secure NHL attention, his goal-scoring touch and steady improvement make him a player to monitor closely. If he sustains this level of production, scouts may start to view him as a legitimate pro prospect later this season

    • #46292
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      re: Burko

      Could some of that 0.54/game be due to his injuries?
      Has “coming back from” or “dealing with” injuries been an ongoing factor with him?

      from NHL dot com:
      “Injuries limited him to 64 games in 2016-17 and 56 in 2017-18, though he had 60 points (24 goals, 36 assists) in the 120 games he did play.”
      If he’s regularly dinged, maybe that has limited his effectiveness?

      Mentions of his playoff success:
      “Burakovsky was one of the unsung heroes in the Washington Capitals’ first Stanley Cup championship. After missing most of the first two rounds of the 2018 playoffs with an upper-body injury,
      Burakovsky scored two goals in the second period of Game 7 in the Eastern Conference Final to help the Capitals defeat the Tampa Bay Lightning 4-0 and advance to the Stanley Cup Final
      for the first time since 1998. He also had four assists in Washington’s five-game victory against the Vegas Golden Knights in the Final.”
      and with the Avs:
      “a pivotal overtime goal against the Lightning in Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final

      overall playoff stats look pretty good:
      “In 93 career playoff games, André Burakovsky has 20 goals, 27 assists, and a plus-minus rating of +14.
      He has also scored 3 game-winning goals in the playoffs and has 2 goals and 5 assists in 7 Stanley Cup Finals games.”

      Hopefully he’s Mikheyev 2.0 for the Hawks.

      MH, I don’t think Mikhayev has the same class of hands and skill as Burakovsky. We’ve seen some quick good hands outa Mik every once in while but we see that every game with Burakovsky. I have Mik as middle 6 at best and Burakovsky as a legit top 6 talent. …. And I do like Mik, a lot. When slotted on L3 he’s impactful and as we’ve seen he can slot up reasonably well.

      And, T thought of that with Burakovsky that injuries had to have to be a part of why his numbers are underwhelming. But, I’m not talking about pt totals being underwhelming I’m talking about pts per game and it’s over 700 games. A huge sample size. ….. Like Haru says Burakovsky can play at pace. I’d add his feet, hands and brains all work together at pace. He can make high end plays at pace and really is a fine mate for Bedard. … I still say he’s the most skilled Hawk Bedard has skated with other than TT. Good fit and it looks like the Hawks got the good Burakovsky, so far.

      And Lou mentioned he’ll hit 60 pts this yr skating with Bedard and playing on the 1 PP if he stays healthy. Agreed, and 60 might be a low number.

    • #46345
      Metalhead
      Participant

      MH, I don’t think Mikhayev has the same class of hands and skill as Burakovsky.

      Mr. Ricochet, you mis-took my point about Burko hopefully being Mikheyev 2.0.
      The similarities are in the acquisition and injury history:
      1) Hawks got slightly paid to take them (Hawks moved up 4th to 2nd round in ’27 to take Mikheyev, and SEA agreed to take Veleno to get rid of Burko)
      2) both were one season returned from bad injury for their previous club (Mikheyev torn ACL, returned to VAN ’23/24, Burko multi-injured incl groin tear, returned to SEA for ’24/25)
      They were both arguably still recovering in their final, full season with their former team.
      If Burko continues playing well (and stays healthy) it would be a very similar acquisition. (does credit go to the Hawks medical team instead of scouting people? or both?)

      As for his PPG:
      He is clearly not a point per game player, but you could make a case that the mature, healthy version of Burko has been better than 0.54 PPG for years.
      He played 3 seasons with the Avs. He turned 25, 26, and 27 years old in the middle of those 3 seasons.
      His PPG was 0.77, 0.83, and 0.76 those 3 seasons, for an avg of 0.785. Projects to 64pts/season average.
      After signing w/ Seattle, he scored 39 in 49 games. 0.80 PPG, projects to 65pts/season. Again, pretty good.
      He suffered a season-ending groin injury in game 49 and was never the same.
      Returning the next year (’23/’24), he suffered multiple injuries and only played 49 games again:
      10/21 – Upper-body out 20 games
      12/07 – Upper-body out 9
      01/13 – Lower-body out 4
      02/29 – Lower-body out 2
      Here is an article written during the ’23/’24 season in SEA: https://soundofhockey.com/2024/03/07/its-been-a-rough-road-for-andre-burakovsky-who-finally-scored-tuesday/
      That 2nd season with SEA, he had a 0.33 PPG average.
      His final ’24/’25 season with SEA he played 79 games with a 0.49 PPG. Could it be argued that he was still getting his game back health-wise? Much like Mikheyev in his final ’23/’24 VAN season?

      I did not look into his 5 seasons in WASH with a low 0.44 PPG avg. Maybe he was just a late 1st round pick (23OA) and late bloomer?
      Like I said above, if you assess the older, healthy version of Burko, around 60pts per season is who he has been for a quite a while.

      🤘

    • #46724
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Coach Frenchy’s weekly update on the main home page.

      Blackhawks Weekly Recap: NHL Week 4

    • #46790
      Metalhead
      Participant

      per Scott Powers:
      Oliver Moore was recalled, in Seattle for the morning skate, and expected to play tonight.
      Dickinson is now week to week.

    • #46802
      Breagbag
      Participant

      per Scott Powers:
      Oliver Moore was recalled, in Seattle for the morning skate, and expected to play tonight.
      Dickinson is now week to week.

      What a great opportunity for Moore. He has the tools to stick, we’ll see if he is ready to make it day in and day out.

      I have to say, in general the team is trending in a good direction lately in the 5v5 play on the ice. I’m excited for when these young D have another year or two under their belt, we might really start to be a team that has some real play driving from the back end again.

    • #46831
      Assman22
      Participant

      What a great opportunity for Moore. He has the tools to stick, we’ll see if he is ready to make it day in and day out.

      Agreed and Moore adds even more speed to an already speedy group.

    • #46841
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m excited about where we are and looking to Frondell, Moore, Lardis and Kantserov playing in the NHL next season, crazy how things are lining up for this team.

    • #46853
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Slaggert sent down to Rockford.

      Honestly it’s probably for the best with how he has played. There is a lot of effort but not much result so far with him. He can get more minutes in the AHL right now and maybe find his next gear.

    • #46855
      Angotti
      Participant

      Slaggert sent down to Rockford.

      Honestly it’s probably for the best with how he has played. There is a lot of effort but not much result so far with him. He can get more minutes in the AHL right now and maybe find his next gear.

      Slaggert needed to go down as soon as he came back from his injury. I like Slaggert, and maybe there will eventually be a spot for him, but man there’s a lot of talent coming.

    • #46971
      Assman22
      Participant

      Slaggert needed to go down as soon as he came back from his injury. I like Slaggert, and maybe there will eventually be a spot for him, but man there’s a lot of talent coming.

      Seems like Tab at BN has a soft spot for Slaggs and keeps defending him to no end. Gushes about all the talent coming up but still somehow thinks there will 100% be a spot for Slaggs because “he’s solid on PK”. I’m sorry but he leaves a lot to be desired in almost every other category and feel he’s only where he is now due to how horrible the organization has been lately.

      • #47101
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        Told-you-so Tab at BN will tell you he loves Slaggert if you hate him and he hates him if you love him.

    • #47186

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Told-you-so Tab at BN will tell you he loves Slaggert if you hate him and he hates him if you love him.

      Where have you been?

    • #47201
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I talked with Steve from Glencoe yesterday and he laughed as I told him the new board was missing him.

      He was adamant that GM KYle needed some more vetearn talent. That the youth movement wasn’t answering the bell after the stack of losses. I said that I thought there was not going to be any in season upgrades b/c the true talent isn’t on sale just yet, that UFA talent in the post season was where they would find some will high end talent that adds 2026 needs, but they are committing to this youth movement now whether he likes it or not.

    • #47209
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I say stay the course, KFC. You don’t pull a crop out of the ground before it’s ready. Just look at Bedard. He is so much better than he was last year! The boys are learning to play in the NHL.

    • #47240
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I really like where the rebuild is. It’s time for the kids to play and learn to become pros.

      I think Murphy, Dickinson and Lafferty are the only starting players on this team from 2022.

      It’s the opposite of being up against the cap and every year you have to trade away talent and your team gets weaker, young talent is developing and every time one of them can play well in the NHL the team will only get stronger and stronger.

      They have so much talent in the pipe line it’s crazy. With currently 2 top 10 picks if the season was to end today.

    • #47274
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Man, Spencer Knight is just the MVP of this team. Outstanding play from him this season. I think he has had maybe one game where he wasn’t great.

    • #47276
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      So, I stream CHSN because I refuse to be taken advantage of by Comcast. There are about four minutes left in the game, and all of a sudden, the feed shuts down, and they post that the Hawks won 5-2. It was 4-1 when the feed shut down. WTF? I was able to backtrack the time to see Bedard score the empty net goal. How about Knight and Bertuzzi? My top two stars of the game. Their defense was nothing to write home about and they gave up a lot of SOG’s, but it was fun to watch.

    • #47287
      Assman22
      Participant

      So, I stream CHSN because I refuse to be taken advantage of by Comcast. There are about four minutes left in the game, and all of a sudden, the feed shuts down, and they post that the Hawks won 5-2. It was 4-1 when the feed shut down. WTF? I was able to backtrack the time to see Bedard score the empty net goal. How about Knight and Bertuzzi? My top two stars of the game. Their defense was nothing to write home about and they gave up a lot of SOG’s, but it was fun to watch.

      Happens in NFL games too and has for years. For whatever reason, watching games on Fubo or Sunday Ticket are less of a delay than national tv and regional outlets. My son put the Bears game on via Hulu on our local CBS affiliate and I was getting updates on my phone before the Bears scored on tv and knew to switch it over to Sunday Ticket channel and sure enough I was getting the updates the same time as I saw it live on tv.

    • #47307
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Oliver Moore another hound dog of the puck with speed, enjoyed what i saw of his game so far.

      • #47348
        CapnMarlboro
        Participant

        He has looked good I guess in these 2 games.
        Has playmaking skills,Donato whiffed on a behind the net pass from Moore vs Seattle,and in this game I think it bounced off him. Doesn’t matter,Moore seems to be contributing.

        As long as he doesn’t play really bad,I think the Hocks will keep him up in the NHL even when Dickinson returns. Not sure how much room they have on the NHL roster? I assume since they traded Reichel,even if D1ck!nson comes back,there will be room for Moore on the NHL roster?

      • #47485
        boilermaker
        Participant

        I posted a link to an article about Kantserov on our Blackhawks Prospect News forum.

    • #47339

      Reichel was the only -2 Forward in the game last night and was outscored by our goalie.

    • #47518
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      You guys aren’t going to believe this but Lazerus is actually writing positive things about the Blackhawks.

      It’s funny how many of them did and now can actually see the plan unfolding.

    • #47519
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Blackhawks ranked 5th, 5 on 5 goals for.

    • #47527
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Blackhawks ranked 5th, 5 on 5 goals for.

      It will be interesting to see how that plays out through the season as it goes on. The shooting percentage will continue to come down to the curve but the Hawks are slowly getting better at getting shots on net. Over the last 6 games we are even in shots for and shots against, with those coming out even at 5v5. I think in part the Hawks were trailing a bit more, so a bit more motivation to get offense going when you are behind, vs the early part of the season where the Hawks didn’t trail for much of time on ice. I think a long road trip like this can help galvanize the team together while they players are learning life under the new coaching staff and in some cases still learning the NHL ropes.

      I’m sure they are going to look to get the 2nd line rolling again which has been quiet the last few games. I know Bertuzzi has been scoring a few goals, but none of them were while he was on the second line, as he was out there on the PP or with line 3 or 4 for a shift.

    • #47541
      boilermaker
      Participant

      <p style=”line-height: 27px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s17-styled=”true” data-line-height-feature-value=”1″>Blackhawks ranked 5th, 5 on 5 goals for.

      <p style=”line-height: 27px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s17-styled=”true” data-line-height-feature-value=”1″>It will be interesting to see how that plays out through the season as it goes on. The shooting percentage will continue to come down to the curve but the Hawks are slowly getting better at getting shots on net. Over the last 6 games we are even in shots for and shots against, with those coming out even at 5v5. I think in part the Hawks were trailing a bit more, so a bit more motivation to get offense going when you are behind, vs the early part of the season where the Hawks didn’t trail for much of time on ice. I think a long road trip like this can help galvanize the team together while they players are learning life under the new coaching staff and in some cases still learning the NHL ropes.

      <p style=”line-height: 27px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s17-styled=”true” data-line-height-feature-value=”1″>I’m sure they are going to look to get the 2nd line rolling again which has been quiet the last few games. I know Bertuzzi has been scoring a few goals, but none of them were while he was on the second line, as he was out there on the PP or with line 3 or 4 for a shift.

    • #47542
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Somebody alluded to PDO here recently, I think. Hawks PDO is currently 102.9. Eventually they will regress to the mean of 100.0. But, no doubt the team is playing better. Let’s hope they continue to improve and continue enjoying watching the games.

      • #47543
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        PDO, for people who don’t know, is simply Shooting Percentage plus Save Percentage. Spencer Knight boosts that number because of his strong SV%, but overall the team’s PDO is still solid.

        If the Blackhawks can cut down on their High-Danger Chances Against, that will push their game to another level. Limiting those grade-A looks will help the Hawks become a much better and more consistent team.

    • #47556
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Man i hope Nazar injury isn’t significant.

      • #47557
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        in his ablity to procreate?

    • #47568
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      What a win tonight, love how tenacious this team is on the puck, they are fun to watch

      • #47571
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Absolutely… Great game overall… Bedard 4 points #1 top scorers with Celerbini

        2-2-1 on the road trip… next Detroit

    • #47572
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m thinking the game plan is to cut the ice in half, Knight is fantastic if they keep the puck on the same side, i saw one pass that made it across the middle of the ice and the guy missed the deflection wide left.

      Good for Knight getting the shut out, well deserved

    • #47574
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      At 1st i thought Arty should be in Rockford. What do i know? He’s looking better and better every game now

    • #47579
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Bedard and Bertuzzi kind of remind me of Kane and Domi. I think that Knight has the spirit of Tony O in him. Loved how the guys stood up for one another. I don’t know how long they can keep this up before some of these rookies hit a wall, but I am loving the way they are playing right now. I would imagine that Nazar has some kind of contusion on that leg. Hopefully, he won’t be out long. Go Hawks!

    • #47611
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Nazar day to day, not fully ruled out for Sunday.

      Good news.

    • #47612
      Metalhead
      Participant

      At 1st i thought Arty should be in Rockford. What do i know? He’s looking better and better every game now

      I still think a few games in RFD would help him, though it is extremely unlikely to happen.
      3rd period, he made a great poke check on defense to steal the puck along the boards.
      He immediately spazzed out and shoved the puck to try and clear it but there was a D-man near the blue line to keep it in.
      His steal became a turnover.
      He needs to stay calm after a good play like that and take stock of the situation.

      I have not seen an update on how KK, EDM and Allan are doing in RFD.
      Have any of them played their way into a callup?

    • #47617
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      At 1st i thought Arty should be in Rockford. What do i know? He’s looking better and better every game now

      I still think a few games in RFD would help him, though it is extremely unlikely to happen.
      3rd period, he made a great poke check on defense to steal the puck along the boards.
      He immediately spazzed out and shoved the puck to try and clear it but there was a D-man near the blue line to keep it in.
      His steal became a turnover.
      He needs to stay calm after a good play like that and take stock of the situation.

      I have not seen an update on how KK, EDM and Allan are doing in RFD.
      Have any of them played their way into a callup?

      Personally from where Arty was in the beginning of the year to where he is now he’s vastly improved. Blashill’s system is built on supporting the puck, bonus is he didn’t throw it to the center of the ice. I can live with the one mistake in the game considering how many times he controls and makes the right read with the puck.

      I also like the minute distribution when Murphy is getting the least amount of minutes as your RD man that’s an excellent sign for this team and team defense.

    • #47624
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It took all of last season for the Blackhawks to win 2 games in a row 3 times? This season they did it in 15 games.

      It’s interesting to watch other young teams making their mark, impressed with Sharks turn around, it’s a long season but the young teams are coming.

    • #47853
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Man what a game vs the Red Wings. 3 in a row, only accomplished that once last season.

      Bedard and his line are on fire this run has been so much fun to watch.

      What a great road trip.

    • #47855
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Bedard your new points leader in the NHL.

    • #47892
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Huge win by the Blackhawks and only two comments about the game… where is everyone? This is a three-game winning streak and nobody seems excited? Really strange.

    • #47915
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Don’t know Frenchy maybe they are all in shock.

      I will say when i was looking for today’s game log it didn’t pop up until after the game which was weird to me.

      But man this is great, Soda played fantastic today

    • #47917
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Thanks for your feedback…
      Absolutely. Great game.

      I’ll do my weekly recap tomorrow:
      • Blackhawks Game
      • Blackhawks Road Trip and Week
      • IceHogs Weekly Report
      • Prospects Weekly Report
      • And what’s coming next week

    • #47921
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Was a fun game this afternoon. Didn’t see the 1st period, but the Hawks were firing on all cylinders in the 2nd and third. The PP and PK were on fire. Same with Soderblom. Had a good save on his brother and a 10 bell on Larkin with a toe save.

      A friend was asking about Lev. Thinks he may end up a Calder finalist. Still early, but he is looking good and putting up points.

    • #47932
      Gramps28
      Participant

      Huge win by the Blackhawks and only two comments about the game… where is everyone? This is a three-game winning streak and nobody seems excited? Really strange.

      Ryan Greene was terrific today. Also, the Bears were playing at the same time today. This is a Bears town.

    • #47937
      Metalhead
      Participant

      CoachFrenchy wrote:
      Huge win by the Blackhawks and only two comments about the game… where is everyone? This is a three-game winning streak and nobody seems excited? Really strange.

      I’m away from home this weekend celebrating our 32nd Anniversary. To an actual woman. Who loves me.
      Not gonna lie, I’m in shock that she’s still here. ❤️❤️❤️
      Hockey gotta take a back seat. Only catching up now because she’s getting ready for bed.

      🤘

    • #47978

      Was a fun game this afternoon. Didn’t see the 1st period, but the Hawks were firing on all cylinders in the 2nd and third. The PP and PK were on fire. Same with Soderblom. Had a good save on his brother and a 10 bell on Larkin with a toe save.

      A friend was asking about Lev. Thinks he may end up a Calder finalist. Still early, but he is looking good and putting up points.

      If Larkin elevates that puck at all it’s an easy goal. I think he thought it was a done deal.

    • #47984
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      My wife thought I was nuts. I had the Bears game on the TV and the Hawks on the Laptop. I would like to know what Bertuzzi said to the Ref. The roughing was a weak call, and I think Bertuzzi told him so, not in church language. How about Connor leading the league in points? I am still of the opinion that Levshunov needs more seasoning. Great game by Sod’s. That was one hell of a save. Good for Moore to get his first goal. Go Hawks!

    • #47999
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      Huge win by the Blackhawks and only two comments about the game… where is everyone? This is a three-game winning streak and nobody seems excited? Really strange.

      Same time as a Bears game on a Sunday afternoon, going to lose some. Especially the way it ended.

      Only 17 football games, lots of tailgates and watch parties.

      • This reply was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by vabeachbear.
      • #48027
        LAHawk
        Participant

        Frenchy, what game log? Still do not see a game log logging in on my IPad this AM. Not the first time. Can’t comment on the game when you don’t know where to comment. This general blog is way behind most day’s also.

        Hawks goalies are keeping the game’s within reach until the offense start’s producing.

        Best move that happened over the off season was when the Denver coach declined the offer, and KD turned to Blashill. Last thing this team needed was another coach learning how to be an NHL coach.

      • #48030
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        This is the link of the Game thread vs Detroit

        Game Thread Detroit

        I am not sure what is going on… Thanks anyway

    • #48026
      Assman22
      Participant

      the Hawks were firing on all cylinders in the 2nd

      Happy to see them get past their 2nd period woes. Can anyone believe they just scored 14 goals in the back end of a 6 game roadtrip? Speed, work ethic, and compete every single game.

    • #48029
      Assman22
      Participant

      Great game by Sod’s. That was one hell of a save.

      If Soda can play like that once every 4-5 games in relief of Knight, Hawks would have one helluva tandem in the crease. Not many teams boast a solid backup goalie and that does not get talked about enough. And Nazar out, no problem! Should be a great litmus test on Wed versus another up-and-coming team that also has a lot of youth, talent, and speed.

    • #48048
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I just gotta say i think my wish is coming true, i think KD is one of the few insightful hockey minds who are running a NHL organization.

      I can’t believe how many of his draft picks are playing in the NHL and playing well. I said last season the trade for Knight and a 1st rounder for Jones made him GM of the year in my eyes.

      I didn’t know what to expect from Blashill but what i did know i really liked the brand of hockey the lightning played and I’m grateful that he’s been able to bring that brand to Chicago, it’s nice to see a team skate with a purpose.

    • #48049
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Huge win by the Blackhawks and only two comments about the game… where is everyone? This is a three-game winning streak and nobody seems excited? Really strange.

      I don’t know Coach. On the old Hockey Buzz site the Hawks forum was known as the Board of Doom. Even during the Cup runs, people found a lot to complain about. Maybe there are a lot of “fans” here like that.

      Also the Bears played Sunday at the same time as the Hawks so maybe the hockey game wasn’t widely viewed. And this site still has its quirks regarding downtime and posts being lost.

      It’s definitely not anything to do with your content.

      • #48050
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Frenchy, also FWIW, personally I prefer to comment when your columns appear on the forum page. But I read on the Rangers thread a few weeks ago that Aguello and maybe Meltzer are the only ones who have administrative rights to add a column to the forum page. If they don’t have time, it stays on the home page. Comments written there are often delayed for review prior to being posted. Comments posted there get more frequently lost too in my experience. So I dislike posting on the home page.

        Over on the home page, good Week 5 Recap by the way.

    • #48060
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Bedard named 2nd Star of the week.
      Frickin’ MacKinnon shoved ahead w/ 5 points on Sunday lol.
      Carlsson 3rd Star.

    • #48062

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Bedard your new points leader in the NHL.

      The bridge deal is getting higher and longer. That’s a good thing.

    • #48063

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I just gotta say i think my wish is coming true, i think KD is one of the few insightful hockey minds who are running a NHL organization.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I can’t believe how many of his draft picks are playing in the NHL and playing well. I said last season the trade for Knight and a 1st rounder for Jones made him GM of the year in my eyes.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I didn’t know what to expect from Blashill but what i did know i really liked the brand of hockey the lightning played and I’m grateful that he’s been able to bring that brand to Chicago, it’s nice to see

        a team skate with a purpose.

      Steve from Glencoe thinks we need more vets…

    • #48066
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m liking the vets that have brought in. Burakovsky for nothing has been a great add, Mikheylev for a 2nd round draft pick and price retention another great add. Teuvo and Burt. Made a mistake signing Brodie, addressed it, brought in Grzelcyk on a Pto and signed him to a very friendly deal.

      If and a big if, they keep performing the way they are so do they trade Murphy? I can see Dickinson definitely being traded.

      I actually like the under 20 minutes for the rookie defenseman, dressing 7 of them a night. Crazy how Arty takes over 1st PP unit duties and the PP comes alive.

    • #48067
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Damn i also forgot about Donato and not over paying him.

    • #48073
      Metalhead
      Participant

      If and a big if, they keep performing the way they are so do they trade Murphy? I can see Dickinson definitely being traded.

      Murphy has been a loyal warrior for years.
      He has a 10 team no-trade list according to capwages.
      My guess is they let him have a say in it, unless someone not on his NT list offers way too much. (unlikely imho)

      Dickinson, it all depends on his health.

      Overall I wonder how they approach the trade deadline if (just for example) the Hawks are out of the playoffs
      but have an outside chance to get in with a great end of year run.
      Would they keep the veterans in order to give the team more meaningful games for the youngsters?

      Like you said, a big “if” but also a lot of variables too.

    • #48076
      Angotti
      Participant

      This is the link of the Game thread vs Detroit

      Game Thread Detroit

      I am not sure what is going on… Thanks anyway

      Besides this link, I can’t find the game thread against Detroit.

    • #48082
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Besides this link, I can’t find the game thread against Detroit.

      Do you see it here?

      Chicago Blackhawks

      • #48095
        Angotti
        Participant

        The last game thread that I see is the Calgary game.

    • #48089
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Thanks for the feedback. On my side, I can see the link in the forum under GENERAL. By the way, we had only three comments during the game, and Metalhead, you were one of them. Not sure why nobody else could see it

      • #48130
        CapnMarlboro
        Participant

        I was popping in and out to see if there were any comments in the general thread.
        Couldn’t see the Detroit thread until today.

        Odd that hockeybuzz had more comments when the team was absolutely abysmal,but now when they are at least watchable there seem to be way less comments.

        Chicago is a Bears town, but I was watching the Hocks,and checking in here on the board!

        Hopefully as the season goes there will be more interactions here!

      • #48166
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Public Service Annoouncement about this site. If you are logged on to the forums page, you are not necessarily logged on to the home page. If you are looking for a current Frenchy blog on the home page, make sure you are logged on. (Check the log in/log out status at the right of the top banner.) When you’re logged on to the home page, it refreshes and new articles appear. Maybe that’s why no one knew about the Detrroit game thread.

      • #48168
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks my friend….

    • #48099
      Assman22
      Participant

      Mikheylev for a 2nd round draft pick

      Actually, it was even better than that! Hawks got Mik, Laffy, AND a 2nd rounder for a 4th rounder. Excited to see where the Florida and NYI picks end up being at the end of the season. Last year with the Jones trade, I assumed the Florida pick would 100% be #28-32 range but now…

    • #48117
      LAHawk
      Participant

      If and a big if, they keep performing the way they are so do they trade Murphy? I can see Dickinson definitely being traded.

      Murphy has been a loyal warrior for years.
      He has a 10 team no-trade list according to capwages.
      My guess is they let him have a say in it, unless someone not on his NT list offers way too much. (unlikely imho)

      Dickinson, it all depends on his health.

      Overall I wonder how they approach the trade deadline if (just for example) the Hawks are out of the playoffs
      but have an outside chance to get in with a great end of year run.
      Would they keep the veterans in order to give the team more meaningful games for the youngsters?

      Like you said, a big “if” but also a lot of variables too.

      Mikhayev is an interesting case. UFA at the end of the year, at 32 y.o. He will be looking for his last big payday. Do you sign him (he probably will want a minimum of 3 years), trade him for an asset at the TDL, or wait until the end of the year and evaluate then?

    • #48121
      Metalhead
      Participant

      By the way, we had only three comments during the game, and Metalhead, you were one of them.

      Just an observation—-
      There were no posts in the general thread during the afternoon game.
      As Gramps pointed out, the Bears were also playing, and Chicago is a Bears Town before anything else.
      So, it’s not like people are going to the General Thread instead of Game Day Thread.
      There were simply no Hawks posts during the hockey and football games (I posted late morning, well before puck drop).

      Between late starts and then an afternoon game, there was less game time posting overall during the road trip.
      Maybe when they are in Central and Eastern time zones, there will be more posting during earlier puck drops?

    • #48122
      Metalhead
      Participant

      The last game thread that I see is the Calgary game.

      Interesting. When I click that link I posted, I see this:

      View post on imgur.com

      Can you try this site in an alternate browser? Just for a test?

      • #48225
        Angotti
        Participant

        Good now, not sure what happened. Thanks MH

    • #48123
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Mikhayev is an interesting case.

      Good name.
      Mikheyev has a 12 team no-trade list.

    • #48165
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Frenchy’s most recent column appearing on the home page today Tuesday, not on the forum topic page.

      Five Reasons Hawks Hot Start Is Real

    • #48229

      How’d we ever trade for Mik if he has a 12 team no trade list?

    • #48235
      Metalhead
      Participant

      How’d we ever trade for Mik if he has a 12 team no trade list?

      Good point.

      Not sure when all the VAN drama (Pettersson – Miller) started, maybe that turned him off.
      Maybe the Hawks sold him on joining an improving team.

    • #48280
      Gramps28
      Participant

      How’d we ever trade for Mik if he has a 12 team no trade list?

      Good point.

      Not sure when all the VAN drama (Pettersson – Miller) started, maybe that turned him off.
      Maybe the Hawks sold him on joining an improving team.

      It could also be the 12 team NTC was only in effect the last 2 years of his contract. I am not sure if that was the case, just presenting another possibility.

    • #48335
      boilermaker
      Participant

      How’d we ever trade for Mik if he has a 12 team no trade list?

      I read at the time of the trade, Mik had to waive the 12 team no trade clause. I suppose he decided that he needed a fresh start elsewhere, or KD or his agent Milstein talked him into waiving.

    • #48447
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I was hoping they would extend Mik but then Frenchy reminded me he’s 32 years old. Really enjoy his brand of hockey but i got a feeling if things continue the way they are we will hold on to him till the end of the season unless someone actually offers a 2027 1st round pick which i doubt.

      I think Dickinson is traded by the dead line.

    • #48472

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I was hoping they would extend Mik but then Frenchy reminded me he’s 32 years old. Really enjoy his brand of hockey but i got a feeling if things continue the way they are we will hold on to him till the end of the season unless someone actually offers a 2027 1st round pick which i doubt.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I think Dickinson is traded by the dead line.

      He’s still got jump. I wonder if 2x$3.5 would get it done?

    • #48528
      boilermaker
      Participant

      He’s still got jump. I wonder if 2x$3.5 would get it done?

      Hawks will have a ton of cap space just to meet the floor next year. 2 x5M I think is more likely. Considering he may be mentoring Kantserov, it’s affordable and worth it,

      • #48540
        boilermaker
        Participant

        This is post 1009 on this forum topic. Counting backyards from here, post 1000 was submitted by Coach Frenchy. Congratulations, sir, and well deserved.

    • #48550
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I think Mikheyev gets more than 2 years.
      He won’t turn 32 until the beginning of next season.
      Someone who needs a great defensive forward / great penalty killer, and will worry about the rest of a longer contract down the road.

      He’s not going anywhere for a few months at least.
      He will play here the entire season unless the Hawks are near elimination at the trade deadline.
      They were eliminated about a week before the deadline last year. Will be better this year of course.

    • #48551
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Interesting post from Tab Bamford.
      I don’t know how this compares to ordinary scouting/executive presence, but it seems like a lot of people.

      ————
      Tab Bamford @The1Tab
      fascinating collection of pro scouts & intriguing front office execs on the press box list for tonight’s #Blackhawks vs Devils matchup.

      TOR
      EDM
      ANA
      FLA
      SEA
      DET
      NSH
      WSH
      LAK
      STL
      NYI

      TOR and SEA are in the Hawk’s next 3 games.
      WSH and FLA are in the Devil’s next 3 games.

      Not sure how far ahead these guys regularly attend games for opponent scouting:
      Hawks play the Ducks 8 games down the road.
      Hawks play the Kings in 10 games.
      Hawks play the Predators in 7 games.
      Devils play the Red Wings in 5 games.
      Devils play the Blues in 6 games.

      Neither team pays the NYI for at least 20 games.
      Neither team plays Edmonton until January.

    • #48577
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I can’t help but be disappointed in the number of defensive breakdowns the Hawks suffered in this game. I think it is time to end the 11/7 gambit Blashill has going on. These forwards are tired by the end of the game and it showed tonight. I watched Lev get knocked on his ass a couple of times. He needs to go back to the Rock! I counted three times Bedard got slashed, cross-checked, and took a hit to the head, and these Referees are not making the calls. If I were KFC, I would complain to the league. This is the future of hockey and they should be treated as such.

    • #48772
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I read today Larry Brooks NYC hockey writer died at 75. I loved beating the pants off of him during mock draft season.
      I am also 75.Should I start thinking about my mortality?

      (Or as Steve from Glencoe said to me a week ago, “You want to wait until you’re 80 when the Blackhawk team actually is good?)

      I just drove up to Chicago from the funeral of a dear friend and fellow Math teacher. We were assigned to the same school in 1972. We bought highly expensive plane tickets when we finally knew the date of the funeral, but last Friday the airline could guarantee the King wouldn’t cancel the flight, son we got in the car and drove up for the funeral this last snowy Monday.
      Currently South of Atlanta on my way back to St. Petersburg, FL.

      Even though the outcome was one HAWK point, there was plenty of hitting by the Hawks and plenty of continuing upside.
      Although I am the guy who still wants to win one more lottery, i thing there will soon reach a high water mark in the standings and then level of in one of the 18 slots the teams not going to Lord Stanley’s Cup slot into…

    • #48929
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Sorry about your friend Wiz.

      When it comes to the game when i started counting the times they didn’t check someone in the flow of the game it was 11. Vlasic, Bertuzz, Moore, even Bedard. Kind of disappointed when they were going after Bedard the Blackhawks didn’t go after Hughes or Bratt.

    • #48942

      Articles out there on Chicago moving Crevier. If we do we won’t just give him away. I think Murphy is more likely to be moved. I wonder how many scouts are watching Rockford games?

    • #48943

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I read today Larry Brooks NYC hockey writer died at 75. I loved beating the pants off of him during mock draft season.
      I am also 75.Should I start thinking about my mortality?

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>(Or as Steve from Glencoe said to me a week ago, “You want to wait until you’re 80 when the Blackhawk team actually is good?)

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I just drove up to Chicago from the funeral of a dear friend and fellow Math teacher. We were assigned to the same school in 1972. We bought highly expensive plane tickets when we finally knew the date of the funeral, but last Friday the airline could guarantee the King wouldn’t cancel the flight, son we got in the car and drove up for the funeral this last snowy Monday.
      Currently South of Atlanta on my way back to St. Petersburg, FL.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Even though the outcome was one HAWK point, there was plenty of hitting by the Hawks and plenty of continuing upside.
      Although I am the guy who still wants to win one more lottery, i thing there will soon reach a high water mark in the standings and then level of in one of the 18 slots the teams not going to Lord Stanley’s Cup slot into…

      I think about my immortality every time I pay the life insurance premium.

    • #48970
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Murphy yes, no to Crevier, honestly be okay if they hold on to Murphy a wee bit longer.

      Get used to it, they are going to throw these out there left and right because we are stacked at young talent, KD will wait unless a player like Reichel appears then they will be dealt.

    • #48971
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      When it comes to mortality I’m a lot more concerned about quality of life, that’s why i stay active, i do need to eat better and drink less but hey 1 out 3 ain’t bad.

    • #49020
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I had season tickets at the old stadium. I drank enough beer in those fifteen years to last me a lifetime. I will drink socially, but I limit myself to two beers. I am done leaning over the porcelain throne. As far as Murphy goes, he has been playing well. These kids aren’t ready to be on their own.

    • #49139
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Thanks my friend….

      Frenchy, Boilermaker was posting links to you for a long time. I think most found you clicking one of his links…… You as a scout blogging about our team is such an incredible resource it’s just a shame the hoops a poster has to go thru to post. And worse, it probably ain’t gonna get better.

      I can’t believe you’re not behind a paywall so we’re all kinda stealing anyway.. If you can answer, is there another place we can read your work?

      • #49143
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it. Right now, everything I write is posted here on Hockey Hot Stove. This is the only place where I’m sharing my articles, and I’m happy to contribute and talk hockey with you guys. Thanks again for following along — it means a lot.

    • #49140
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Just saw this. The Hawks are tied for 3rd with ANA for league best goal differential behind COL and CAR………. No matter the fancies this is incredible 17 games in.

    • #49217
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      These kids may be green but they are so much fun to watch.

    • #49220
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Maybe this is the fan in me, but it seems to me that the replay officials in Toronto are sticking it to the Blackhawks. The stick above the shoulders was a no-doubter. We all saw it. That offsides that wasn’t called. Unless he had the puck on a string ala Mikita, he did not maintain possession. Bedard constantly getting kicked out of faceoff’s. The penalties that are not called. I don’t mean to whine, but my God! Call the game right.

    • #49224
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Honestly in game it drives me crazy with the officials, after the game I’m really impressed they are not letting it rattle them and winning in spite of the refs. Sign of a team that battles through adversity.

    • #49336
      bhawk1s
      Participant

      Kirby Dach injured again, 4-6 weeks with a broken foot.

    • #49469

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Kirby Dach injured again, 4-6 weeks with a broken foot.

      What took him so long?

    • #49592
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Are the Blackhawks recalling anyone from Rockford to replace Foligno?

    • #49619
      Assman22
      Participant

      Are the Blackhawks recalling anyone from Rockford to replace Foligno?

      It really doesn’t seem like it. Find out at morning skate but seems like they’re hoping Dickinson and/or Bert will be able to go. I don’t understand the harm in calling up Toninato so everyone gets healthy but I’m not in the room.

    • #49620
      Metalhead
      Participant

      seems like they’re hoping Dickinson and/or Bert will be able to go

      According to Powers yesterday, Dickinson is already ruled out for tonight.

    • #49622
      Assman22
      Participant

      Articles out there on Chicago moving Crevier. If we do we won’t just give him away. I think Murphy is more likely to be moved. I wonder how many scouts are watching Rockford games?

      Guy on Twatter that spun that web has Crevier for Jarnkrok (34 year old nobody) lol. Also thought Hawks were running 11-7 to “showcase” Crevier. Roll eyes emoji. I would do Crevier for Dakota Joshua though and opens up some space for Leafs but more likely Kyle would center the trade around Crevier for Robertson in some fashion, if it actually happened. Trading with Islanders and their large stockpile of young forwards would be to my druthers.

    • #49642
      Metalhead
      Participant

      re: Crevier rumors

      It’s very unlikely that Crevier is traded for another D. (unless an AHL depth D-man is included as a minor part)
      That means the current roster goes to 6 defensemen.
      Any injury (Murphy’s chronic groin problem is due to make an appearance) would drop them to 5 current guys.
      That tells me Crevier is traded *only* if the team is 100.00000% certain that one of KK, EDM, Allan can, at minimum,
      replace what Crevier is giving the Hawks so far this year.
      Also: Crevier is a right shot, the other 3 are all left shot.

      Are those guys ready?
      I’ve checked around, it seems that all 3 are at least “doing well” in RFD this season.
      Does anyone here watch a lot of RFD games? Interested in hearing about their performance.
      (cough new Frenchy article cough)

      🤘

    • #49656
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Crevier

      If you would of told me that Crevier would lead all our D men in goals and 5 on 5 points i wouldn’t of believed it.

      Anyone suggesting we would trade him for an old player doesn’t know how rebuilds work. If anyone is traded it would be Murphy and i just don’t see that happening. He’s been very helpful with this young d core and playing minutes that are better suited for him.

      This is part of development, when the season started i thought it would be Rinzel leading in points for this team, wrong, shows you how difficult the NHL is for kids.

      Speaking of development, Vlasic, Kaiser, Crevier, Arty, Rinzel are all doing that and the one thing i know is there is no way KD is going to trade Crevier without waiting to see what his ceiling really is.

      9 points in 17 games played all even strength, +7, 14 minutes a night? Yea he’s not going anywhere

    • #49662
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides he’s only 1 of 3 NHL prospects we have who shoot from the right. I here that’s a valuable commodity in this league.

    • #49665
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      And we have Crevier under contract for next season, not a chance he’s traded.

    • #49670
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I don’t expect Davidson to make any moves right now. He’s sticking to his plan for the season: give the prospects their chance and evaluate every player inside the organization.

      But hey, I’m no expert — I get things wrong with my predictions just like anyone else. What I truly appreciate is the passion many of you bring to this forum. You’re building one of the best communities on HHS.

      Credit goes to all of you. Keep that love for the game going.

      Have a great day.

    • #49679
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I don’t expect Davidson to make any moves right now.

      I’d still like to see a KK/EDM/Allan progress article, Frenchy.
      ***or from anyone else following RFD closely***

      Any potential D movement hinges on their readiness for long term NHL action.

      • #49683
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Perfect timing with the end of the month coming up…

        Levshunov report — coming soon
        IceHogs recap — end of the month
        Blackhawks Prospects update — end of the month
        NHL Draft Top 32 — end of the month

        HHS also asked me to cover Columbus and Colorado,
        But Chicago remains my first priority. That’s where my focus stays.

    • #49686
      Metalhead
      Participant
    • #49695
      35Tony0
      Participant

      Perfect timing with the end of the month coming up…

      Levshunov report — coming soon
      IceHogs recap — end of the month
      Blackhawks Prospects update — end of the month
      NHL Draft Top 32 — end of the month

      HHS also asked me to cover Columbus and Colorado,
      But Chicago remains my first priority. That’s where my focus stays.

      Yikes, that is a FULL load, very thankful for your work!

    • #49696
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Frenchy Feel to peruse my 7 round Mock for the 2026 draft.

      https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2026. or search: NHL 2026 mock draft lines projected lines

      I am pretty confident no matter how the “experts” feel about the lackluster top end, there is a strong thickness of better prsoepcts than most years.

      You simply have to find kids who like Bedard, do everything and anything taht makes them more NHL ready.

      • #49823
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        great list…. thanks for sharing and for your work…

    • #49697

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>re: Crevier rumors

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>It’s very unlikely that Crevier is traded for another D. (unless an AHL depth D-man is included as a minor part)
      That means the current roster goes to 6 defensemen.
      Any injury (Murphy’s chronic groin problem is due to make an appearance) would drop them to 5 current guys.
      That tells me Crevier is traded *only* if the team is 100.00000% certain that one of KK, EDM, Allan can, at minimum,
      replace what Crevier is giving the Hawks so far this year.
      Also: Crevier is a right shot, the other 3 are all left shot.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Are those guys ready?
      I’ve checked around, it seems that all 3 are at least “doing well” in RFD this season.
      Does anyone here watch a lot of RFD games? Interested in hearing about their performance.
      (cough new Frenchy article cough)

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>🤘

      We’ll be sorry for years if we trade the big guy. He’s decent defensively, nobody F’s with him and his right shot is vicious.

    • #49726
      Metalhead
      Participant

      We’ll be sorry for years if we trade the big guy. He’s decent defensively, nobody F’s with him and his right shot is vicious.

      I’m not advocating for or against trading Crevier.
      Just trying to define the initial, internal circumstance(s) that would even get it to step one of feasibility.
      It does not seem like that has even happened yet.

      If KK/EDM/Allan burst onto the “NHL Ready” scene, that would be cause for an updated “what if” post.
      I don’t think it would be Crevier they part with, unless someone solidly overpays.

      🤘

    • #49760
      Angotti
      Participant

      We’ll be sorry for years if we trade the big guy. He’s decent defensively, nobody F’s with him and his right shot is vicious.

      I’m not advocating for or against trading Crevier.
      Just trying to define the initial, internal circumstance(s) that would even get it to step one of feasibility.
      It does not seem like that has even happened yet.

      If KK/EDM/Allan burst onto the “NHL Ready” scene, that would be cause for an updated “what if” post.
      I don’t think it would be Crevier they part with, unless someone solidly overpays.

      🤘

      Centers and right shot defensemen are the most sought after players in the NHL. Murphy’s contract is ending this year, so unless KD gets blown away Crevier is staying put. I know that you weren’t advocating for it, just throwing it out there.

    • #49819
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Murphy’s contract is ending this year, so unless KD gets blown away Crevier is staying put.

      Yes sir.

      🤘

    • #49954
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Hawks on pace for 103 1/2 points, currently in the first wild card position.
      Sniffing right behind WPG at this point for 3rd in the division.
      The longer this lasts, the better it is. (even if they fall off down the road)

      🤘

    • #49988
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      What is poignant about their play is that they are performing it while missing three veterans. I can’t wait until more kids come up. I think Bedard is starting to have fun. There are more kids to play with in the sandbox!

    • #49993
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I don’t think anyone would have thought that Chicago would be top 5 in GA/G and GF/G both at around the quarter point of the season. The team is a +16 GF vs GA on the season through 19 games. I know the momentum will slow down but it’s giving the team confidence that is helping these young players push each other. Fun to see them taking steps towards being a solid team.

      Bedard is really breaking out now after maturing for a couple seasons as a teenager. I would argue that offensively he is every bit as dangerous as Patrick Kane was at his peak, but this kid is only 20 and still likely to improve. I spoke a lot last year about how he needed that explosiveness on the attack to put defenders on their heels and he has delivered it. He makes some unbelievable passes to set up teammates, but I have to say he is really good with his feet too, and his ability to pivot and attack with speed is evident. Glad to see him finally getting to the point where he isn’t pushed around so much by the physical play in the NHL. His overall game, even away from the puck is growing as he just battles better, wins more pucks and makes a bigger impact.

      The kid pretty much shattered the narrative that Chicago needed to “Get him help” by adding big expensive free agents to his line. He just needed time to mature more than anything.

      Overall it’s been nice to just see more overall offensive depth. Donato/Teravinen/Bertuzzi were the supporting offensive pieces after Bedard, but adding Burakovsky, Nazar, and recently Moore, the Hawks are just a more balanced attacking team, especially when you consider the little extra we get from Mikheyev, Greene, Dach. We could be scary good offensively down the road here with some of the talent coming up.

    • #49994

      I want to see the Nazar and Moore off to the races play 5 times a game.

      • #50009
        CapnMarlboro
        Participant

        I think it could come in handy on the PK at some point.
        Throw Mikheyev a bone too,I’m sure he could do the same.

    • #50002

      Anybody else think Bedard got tripped before his empty netter?

    • #50008
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Was interesting to see Arty leading the D men in ice time through two periods.
      I believe he was 2nd only behind Vlasic.

      Rinzel got the sheltered zone starts,and had a solid game.

      Bedard’s FO numbers up to 48%,not bad considering how bad he started the 1st few games of the season.

      The overhead view on Greene’s dish to Bedard and Bedard’s wrist shot is pretty insane.

      Some weird stats out there
      I think the Kings only have 6 regulation wins,and have played 13 games on the road and only 7 at home!
      Montreal and San Jose – both doing well in the standings,but both have a lot of OT wins.

      I think I’m in the minority when I say I hate 3 on 3 OT hockey

    • #50016
      CapnMarlboro
      Participant

      Anybody else think Bedard got tripped before his empty netter?

      I thought it was a trip,but he got the empty netter anyways.
      Nice save by Arvid too,right before 98 hit his EN.

    • #50023

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Was interesting to see Arty leading the D men in ice time through two periods.
      I believe he was 2nd only behind Vlasic.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Rinzel got the sheltered zone starts,and had a solid game.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Bedard’s FO numbers up to 48%,not bad considering how bad he started the 1st few games of the season.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>The overhead view on Greene’s dish to Bedard and Bedard’s wrist shot is pretty insane.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Some weird stats out there
      I think the Kings only have 6 regulation wins,and have played 13 games on the road and only 7 at home!
      Montreal and San Jose – both doing well in the standings,but both have a lot of OT wins.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I think I’m in the minority when I say I hate 3 on 3 OT hockey

      I hate 3 on 3 and the shootout. Can’t say what would be better but wouldn’t want anything over a 10 min. OT.

    • #50043
      Metalhead
      Participant

      wouldn’t want anything over a 10 min. OT.

      Longer in-season OT has been suggested buy callers/emails in Friedman’s podcast a few times.
      He always mentions that it’s a non-starter with the league.

      • #50045
        popsghostly
        Participant

        I find the 3-on-3 extremely exciting. Make it a 10 minute period!

      • #50057
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        One big reason behind that is simple: teams are on a tight schedule. As soon as the game ends, they’re packing up, heading straight to the airport, and flying to the next city. Everything is timed — the plane is ready, the crew is waiting, and there’s very little flexibility.

        This was actually brought up as a major issue at the NHL GM Meetings last year, because the league knows travel demands affect performance and recovery.

    • #50051
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      We’ll be sorry for years if we trade the big guy. He’s decent defensively, nobody F’s with him and his right shot is vicious.

      I’m not advocating for or against trading Crevier.
      Just trying to define the initial, internal circumstance(s) that would even get it to step one of feasibility.
      It does not seem like that has even happened yet.

      If KK/EDM/Allan burst onto the “NHL Ready” scene, that would be cause for an updated “what if” post.
      I don’t think it would be Crevier they part with, unless someone solidly overpays.

      🤘

      You can replace Crevier’s name with anybody’s except Bedard, and probably Artie, of guys who might get moved due to the sheer number of bodies who will be “NHL ready” and not enough NHL spots. But, that’s what we all hoped and prayed for. Too many legit NHLers and not enough spots. …… I’m ok with moving value for value if it’s not only the right player but the right player at the right time.

      And this is above my abilities but I’d assume when cap problems arise they can move an established NHLer due his payday for a smattering of blue chippers/draft picks to feed what will become a thinning pipeline and replace those players within and not skip too many beats. .

    • #50054
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I don’t think anyone would have thought that Chicago would be top 5 in GA/G and GF/G both at around the quarter point of the season. The team is a +16 GF vs GA on the season through 19 games. I know the momentum will slow down but it’s giving the team confidence that is helping these young players push each other. Fun to see them taking steps towards being a solid team.

      Bedard is really breaking out now after maturing for a couple seasons as a teenager. I would argue that offensively he is every bit as dangerous as Patrick Kane was at his peak, but this kid is only 20 and still likely to improve. I spoke a lot last year about how he needed that explosiveness on the attack to put defenders on their heels and he has delivered it. He makes some unbelievable passes to set up teammates, but I have to say he is really good with his feet too, and his ability to pivot and attack with speed is evident. Glad to see him finally getting to the point where he isn’t pushed around so much by the physical play in the NHL. His overall game, even away from the puck is growing as he just battles better, wins more pucks and makes a bigger impact.

      The kid pretty much shattered the narrative that Chicago needed to “Get him help” by adding big expensive free agents to his line. He just needed time to mature more than anything.

      Overall it’s been nice to just see more overall offensive depth. Donato/Teravinen/Bertuzzi were the supporting offensive pieces after Bedard, but adding Burakovsky, Nazar, and recently Moore, the Hawks are just a more balanced attacking team, especially when you consider the little extra we get from Mikheyev, Greene, Dach. We could be scary good offensively down the road here with some of the talent coming up.

      Last week, for the 1st time this yr, I checked the standings and noticed the Hawks were tied for 3rd in the league in goal differential. 3rd. The team we suffered thru last yr is tied for 3rd in goal differential a week out from Thanksgiving was (is?) simply unthinkable. With a brand new coach. ……. The fancies say the Hawks are in for as big a correction as any team but they said that last week and the week before and this group just clearing hurdles and obstacles.

      Frenchy was asked in his recap if the Hawk’s just might make the playoffs. His response was it’s doubtful but the important thing is they play games that matter very late into the season. Really, IMO all that matters is they gain experience playing games of consequence but I’m starting to wonder about the playoffs. … I think I might be able to say if they do I won’t be surprised.

      It’s still doubtful but this group may be too dumb to be scared and so young and skilled that playing hungry hockey in front of an elite goalie might be enough.

    • #50055
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Wanna mention Dach. The times where he’s skating in open ice you can see this kid’s skating is becoming an asset. He’s also becoming much stronger on his skates staying in and winning more puck battles than he has. Add his size and the poise he’s earned from NHL reps and this kid is close to becoming impactful.

      No, he is not the athlete or have the skill of a Bickell but if we see a switch flip instead of the steady growth we’ve seen the last couple yrs this kid can check a lotta boxes a power player checks and that every team covets……. This kid is showing signs.

    • #50058
      Metalhead
      Participant

      guys who might get moved due to the sheer number of bodies who will be “NHL ready” and not enough NHL spots.

      Agree, there will be successful prospects who get moved.

      Something also to keep in mind, Lucas Reichel was not the last “Lucas Reichel”.
      There *WILL* be more highly touted prospects who cannot make the jump to the NHL.
      Nobody hits anywhere near 100%.
      You could argue that Korchinski is in danger of becoming the next Reichel (I’m not there yet)

    • #50059
      Metalhead
      Participant

      the important thing is they play games that matter very late into the season

      This.

      I wish I could find a stat that shows how many total minutes during the last 2 seasons the Hawks were:
      tied
      down 1 goal
      up 1 goal

      Then compare it to this season.
      The wins and potential playoff positioning is very, very important.
      But so is the simple experience of spending more minutes in each game that matter.

      • #50060
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I don’t think you’ll find this anywhere online, but I broke it down for you:

        2023-24 After 2 Periods
        • Trailing: 4-43-4
        • Tie: 4-5-1
        • One-Goal Games: 12-9-6 (27 total)

        2024-25 After 2 Periods
        • Trailing: 2-35-3
        • Tie: 3-7-2
        • One-Goal Games: 7-9-11 (27 total)

        2025-26 After 2 Periods
        • Trailing: 1-3-1
        • Tie: 3-2-3
        • One-Goal Games: 3-2-4 (9 total)

        And take note:
        They are 6-0-0 this season when leading after 2 periods.

        What does this tell us?
        They’re playing far more meaningful games, they’re trailing a lot less after two periods, and they’re doing a much better job finishing games when they’re tied going into the third. This is real progress for a young team.

    • #50063
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I love, for the most part, how this team is playing. One downer I will bring up is we are still in the middle of a rebuild. This is going to be interesting for KD if he goes out and gets another piece or holds pat. I think he will stay status quo as he has too many variables on what he has.

    • #50065

      I love, for the most part, how this team is playing. One downer I will bring up is we are still in the middle of a rebuild. This is going to be interesting for KD if he goes out and gets another piece or holds pat. I think he will stay status quo as he has too many variables on what he has.

      We still get hemmed in and outshot by large margins. But it is much better than the last couple years. Our great cup teams Crawford would get bored facing about 20 shots a game because the puck was always at the other end. That is our next big step to climb.

    • #50066
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I don’t think you’ll find this anywhere online, but I broke it down for you:

      Thanks for this info Frenchy.

      The stat I’m looking for is probably not available at all. (I’m probably the only person who even cares lol)
      For example, last night the Hawks played 48:44 of the game with a 1 or 0 goal differential.
      My point is, I think there were dozens of hours of game time in the past 2 seasons where the Hawks were down 2 goals or more.
      No matter what you might say about how “it toughens you up” it’s better imo if they spend more minutes in each game with the game in doubt.

    • #50067
      Metalhead
      Participant

      because the puck was always at the other end

      They have to get better, for sure.

      Crawford faced just over 27 shots/game average during the ’13, ’13/14 and ’14/15 seasons.
      Knight has seen 32.5/game so far this year.
      note: Some of those SOG from the Cup era were probably score affected.

      High Danger Save %
      Knight is at 88.9% so far this season. Best among goalies w/ 6 or more games played this season.
      Across the ’13, ’13/14 and ’14/15 seasons Crawford had a 83.6 save % on High Danger.

      BUT
      Crawford only faced 7.3 high danger shots per game over those seasons.
      Knight is facing 9.7/game. They need to cut down on the time and space opponents are getting against them.

      That’s it for now, my head hurts from all the maths.

      🤘

    • #50139
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      You know Frenchy we had discussed the speed of the Blackhawks on the Calgary game log and i was curious,

      The Blackhawks may be 31st in top speed by any player on the team, they may be 24th on speed bursts over 20mph, but an interesting thing i see is they are 12th with bursts over 22mph, 26 times.

      Then i dug a bit deeper, do you know all of our young dmen have recorded speed bursts of over 22mph? That’s fantastic and all of our young forwards have except for Greene and Moore. Greene makes it up with hockey IQ, and Moore will eventually hit over 23mph.

      I didn’t realize how hard Creviers shot had gotten 7 shots of over 90mph and his best 102.41.

      • #50237
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        You’re right: even if the Hawks sit low in overall top speed and 20-mph bursts, the fact they’re 12th in bursts over 22 MPH is huge. That tells you the young core has real skating potential. And the most impressive part? All the young defensemen have hit 22+ MPH already.

        And you nailed it on Crevier — he actually leads the team in hardest shot, hitting over 102 mph. That’s elite power, and it’s becoming a real weapon for him.

        Love conversations like this. It shows how fast this young group is growing. Thanks for your comment

      • #50264
        boilermaker
        Participant

        There’s a whole complete articles here on HHS on team speed rankings.

        Who Are The NHL’s Fastest And Slowest Teams?

    • #50199
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Looks like Bert draws back in tonight. He skated at the morning skate ad Blashill expects him in tonight………. SEA plays a yuk it up, take no chances, capitalize on mistakes frustrating brand of hockey. These kinds are a test for young skilled clubs and if they can stay disciplined/structured. 1 goal down is a test for SEA and their kind so any addition that can have an effect in the Ozone is helpful on top of what Bert brings to the PP. Good to see Bert back.

    • #50201
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Incredibly the Hawks 19 games in are top 5 in GF and GA as well as tied for 3rd in goal differential!…. Lotta things have to go right for that to happen, especially a young club learning all new systems under a new coach…. Regression will come in some form but so will improvements, maybe even to a wash.

    • #50433
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Thanks boiler

      And Blashill is 100% correct about the call on the ice last night and how the ref handled it.

      I imagine the league has to investigate the ref last night for the series of calls or non calls that put Seattle in a position to win.

    • #50434
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      They will never tell us but they have to if they want to preserve the integrity of the NHL

    • #50448
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      The NHL has no integrity. These Refs are horrible. The slash happened right in front of him and then he is so thin-skinned that he has to call Bedard for unsportsmanlike conduct. He blew it and he had to hide his embarrassment. Why doesn’t the NHL protect players’ heads? The NFL goes out of its way to do it. Twice in the last two games! The NHL will never be anything more than a junior league. Their officiating is crap!

    • #50460
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I hear you is crazy to me that Bedard gets called for hurting the refs feelings but hey if a guy puts his head in danger he’s fair game, they care so little for players safety.

    • #50488

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>The NHL has no integrity. These Refs are horrible. The slash happened right in front of him and then he is so thin-skinned that he has to call Bedard for unsportsmanlike conduct. He blew it and he had to hide his embarrassment. Why doesn’t the NHL protect players’ heads? The NFL goes out of its way to do it. Twice in the last two games! The NHL will never be anything more than a junior league. Their officiating is crap!

      I’ve been saying for years, the NHL will change when they lose a lawsuit. They don’t have NFL money where the commissioner makes $50M a year. Last night’s loss will be worth 5 extra wins this season. They just learned the hard way hockey is a 3 period game.

    • #50491
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      He has to get away from the 11/7 split. We played two periods with 10 forwards. They were gassed in the third period. If you have to worry about these defenseman so much, maybe they don’t belong in the NHL.

    • #50498
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>The NHL has no integrity. These Refs are horrible. The slash happened right in front of him and then he is so thin-skinned that he has to call Bedard for unsportsmanlike conduct. He blew it and he had to hide his embarrassment. Why doesn’t the NHL protect players’ heads? The NFL goes out of its way to do it. Twice in the last two games! The NHL will never be anything more than a junior league. Their officiating is crap!

      I’ve been saying for years, the NHL will change when they lose a lawsuit. They don’t have NFL money where the commissioner makes $50M a year. Last night’s loss will be worth 5 extra wins this season. They just learned the hard way hockey is a 3 period game.

      For sure. You have to get thru games in a season where the calls don’t go your way, you’re frustrated against a muck it up team, not let your frustrations put you in the box, goals that are deflected in for when you played the sequence perfectly, when you don’t get any puck luck, where you lose players in game and forced to play shorthanded and on and on. No team that is a serious threat in the playoffs has not learned these things along the way. … None of them.

      Nobody can win anything meaningful without conquering adversity and you don’t learn without games like this one………. And, Bedard knows it. The guy who will be on the ice the most and take every single important minute of every season. After the game he said I have to be better, I can’t put my team in bad spots like I did.

    • #50501
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      He has to get away from the 11/7 split. We played two periods with 10 forwards. They were gassed in the third period. If you have to worry about these defenseman so much, maybe they don’t belong in the NHL.

      Yep. The forwards were spent come the 3rd period. They had 5 forwards that skated over 20 minutes and they have a 6:00 puck drop 1,000 miles away the next day. ……. I absolutely loved how the 11-7 format has worked for THIS roster. It perfectly acclimated 3 green Dmen to the Bigs thru sheltered minutes. But, it might have run its course to an extent.

      We all know, and especially the organIzation knows, that every young player hits a wall in their first full season and running an 11-7 format for too long will exacerbate this. Think how the group didn’t (couldn’t) move their feet in the 3rd. Now imagine an over taxed young group will look in games 60-70-80?

      Looked at the lines and loved the fact that TT was bumped to L3 with Mikahev and Donato. With L1 and L2 able to score that L3 is not only dangerous, and will give then secondary scoring, but they can shut down as well. This is what we all clamored for. A fast dangerous top 6 with a legit difference making bottom 6. Depth! ….. Losing Burakovsky is gonna hurt but less so when you have Dickinson coming back bumping TT back up to the top 6.

    • #50502
      Metalhead
      Participant

      They just learned the hard way hockey is a 3 period game.

      Well said, sir.

    • #50505
      Metalhead
      Participant

      For sure. You have to get thru games in a season where the calls don’t go your way, you’re frustrated against a muck it up team, not let your frustrations put you in the box, goals that are deflected in for when you played the sequence perfectly, when you don’t get any puck luck, where you lose players in game and forced to play shorthanded and on and on. No team that is a serious threat in the playoffs has not learned these things along the way. … None of them.

      Nobody can win anything meaningful without conquering adversity and you don’t learn without games like this one………. And, Bedard knows it. The guy who will be on the ice the most and take every single important minute of every season. After the game he said I have to be better, I can’t put my team in bad spots like I did.

      I agree with every bit of this.

      I’ll add that I’m very disappointed in Blashill for going easy on Bedard after the game.
      Hopefully he was tougher on him in private.

    • #50510
      Metalhead
      Participant

      He has to get away from the 11/7 split. If you have to worry about these defenseman so much, maybe they don’t belong in the NHL.

      Excellent way to put it.

      Murphy is due for a groin injury flare-up, give him a game off here and there.
      They have 19 games in the next 40 days, perfect time to go 12/6 and see who is ready for the grind.

    • #50523
      LAHawk
      Participant

      He has to get away from the 11/7 split. We played two periods with 10 forwards. They were gassed in the third period. If you have to worry about these defenseman so much, maybe they don’t belong in the NHL.

      Yep. The forwards were spent come the 3rd period. They had 5 forwards that skated over 20 minutes and they have a 6:00 puck drop 1,000 miles away the next day. ……. I absolutely loved how the 11-7 format has worked for THIS roster. It perfectly acclimated 3 green Dmen to the Bigs thru sheltered minutes. But, it might have run its course to an extent.

      We all know, and especially the organIzation knows, that every young player hits a wall in their first full season and running an 11-7 format for too long will exacerbate this. Think how the group didn’t (couldn’t) move their feet in the 3rd. Now imagine an over taxed young group will look in games 60-70-80?

      Looked at the lines and loved the fact that TT was bumped to L3 with Mikahev and Donato. With L1 and L2 able to score that L3 is not only dangerous, and will give then secondary scoring, but they can shut down as well. This is what we all clamored for. A fast dangerous top 6 with a legit difference making bottom 6. Depth! ….. Losing Burakovsky is gonna hurt but less so when you have Dickinson coming back bumping TT back up to the top 6.

      I know I am not the only one that watches games that do not involve the Hawks, Mackinnon, McDavid, Hughes (often injured) get hacked and whacked in prime scoring positions with no penalty called.

      Interesting about head hits too, I remember on the old board when Hagel ran Barkov with a direct head hit in the playoffs without the puck and Barkov was called soft.

    • #50533
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I know I am not the only one that watches games that do not involve the Hawks, Mackinnon, McDavid, Hughes (often injured) get hacked and whacked in prime scoring positions with no penalty called.
      Interesting about head hits too, I remember on the old board when Hagel ran Barkov with a direct head hit in the playoffs without the puck and Barkov was called soft.

      So many fans of every team in every sport are convinced that the refs/umpires/officials hate their team and want to screw them over.

    • #50537

      A goalie win for Buffalo tonight.

    • #50597
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Except it wasn’t a head hit, he hit him shoulder to shoulder. It was more about the puck not being on his stick but keep beating that drum

      • #50647
        BJPHAWKFAN
        Participant

        I don’t know what you were looking at, but it was a direct hit to the head with the top of his arm. You can see his head rock back. The problem with this, the NHL doesn’t care. Twice in two games and the NHL hasn’t taken any action. This is deplorable. They need stricter rules on hits to the head. Whether it was intentional or not, it is not acceptable. These are players’ lives. You would think the NHL would care a little about that.

    • #50606
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Frenchy with a good summary of the last 10 games here:

      Chicago Blackhawks: 10-Game Report Card

    • #50646
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know I am not the only one that watches games that do not involve the Hawks, Mackinnon, McDavid, Hughes (often injured) get hacked and whacked in prime scoring positions with no penalty called.
      Interesting about head hits too, I remember on the old board when Hagel ran Barkov with a direct head hit in the playoffs without the puck and Barkov was called soft.

      So many fans of every team in every sport are convinced that the refs/umpires/officials hate their team and want to screw them over.

      I’ll be honest i had no interest in watching NHL hockey Friday because of the 2 terrible calls. So i didn’t. Won’t watch today either. I have tickets for Sunday and I’m thinking about just giving away my tickets that’s what that ref did to me.

      I get it most people enable the refs, so the expectation is hockey players need to be tough work hard and be passionate, yet the refs get a pass on bad calls, no calls and not being thick skinned. I hope woman begin entering the league as refs because they need to eliminate the egos these young men have who couldn’t make it as an NHL player.

    • #50648
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m sure there is a variety of people on this board. (although I think we might skew a bit to the “older” side, not sure)
      Different business careers and industries.
      Maybe even a range from a CEO of a company all the way down to a grade school janitor. Who knows.
      And personal: long time marriages, divorced, never or not yet married, who knows.
      No children, one child, or a ton of kids. Probably a variety of personal backgrounds also.

      What I really *would* like to know is, who, if anyone reading or commenting on this board
      can say that any notable part of their success in life came from complaining about things that are out of their control.

      Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?
      Please respond with a story about how bitching about something *you have no control over* produced something significant for you.
      I will also like to read some stories detailing how “feeling sorry for myself” produced a tangible, positive outcome.

    • #50650
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s called venting? So you’re saying you’ve never bitched about something that happened to you or someone or something you cared for in your life?

      But then you post about others complaining with some crap about life?

      Sure

    • #50654
      LAHawk
      Participant

      I don’t know what you were looking at, but it was a direct hit to the head with the top of his arm. You can see his head rock back. The problem with this, the NHL doesn’t care. Twice in two games and the NHL hasn’t taken any action. This is deplorable. They need stricter rules on hits to the head. Whether it was intentional or not, it is not acceptable. These are players’ lives. You would think the NHL would care a little about that.

      Ryan Lindgren was not suspended for his hit on Andre Burakovsky during their November 20, 2025 game because the hit was determined to be unavoidable head contact under NHL rules.
      The hit was reviewed by the NHL Department of Player Safety (DoPS), who found that while there was significant head contact, Lindgren was tracking the play with a proper angle of approach and did not extend his body upward or outward to target the head. The determination was that the primary point of contact was the body, and the head contact was a result of the dynamic nature of the play and Burakovsky’s body position

      So DOps did look at it, and this is the answer.

    • #50728
      wizardofi
      Participant

      So when is a head shot not a head shot? When it’s a head shot. Reminds me of when Seabrook got head shot near the net and there was no suspension because he was in the “hitting zone”

    • #50729
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      If I were working on a farm, I would call that cow manure.

    • #50812
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      So, here is a suggestion for the NHL. Institute a rule that reads Any contact with the head, whether intentional or incidental, will result in a game misconduct. Then let’s see how often it happens.

    • #50813
      LAHawk
      Participant

      So, here is a suggestion for the NHL. Institute a rule that reads Any contact with the head, whether intentional or incidental, will result in a game misconduct. Then let’s see how often it happens.

      I am fine with any rule change that enhances public safety. But the start of this conversation was about the ref’s cheating cause every call or non-call goes against the Hawks. I guess the Hawks are the only team in the league that complains about the refs

      Maybe they still remember when Tom Lysiak dumped a linesman on his ass on a face off cause he didn’t like a call? Or when the old stadium was chanting Ashley is a bum (a very common trait) and Mikita stood in front of him making a conductor’s gesture?

      IMO if Bedard wouldn’t have got in the ref’s face, and just skated away and said what he said, no call would have been made. I also thought that instead of a 2 minute penalty, he should have gotten a misconduct. Punish the player, not the team by putting them shorthanded in that instance.

    • #50875
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Dots, you don’t have to explain or apologize for how you feel when you root for your club. There is no right or wrong…… But, and I think I mentioned to you 5-10 yrs ago, it’s too bad that bad calls take that much enjoyment outa the experience for you. .. When all is said and done hockey/sport is an escape for the majority of fans no matter the sport or continent. And we need it.

    • #50883
      Metalhead
      Participant

      hockey/sport is an escape for the majority of fans

      This is true.

      A long time ago, I learned to be conscious of the fact that this is a pastime, something to enjoy.
      I never became a fair weather fan or bandwagon jumper.
      However, I stopped habitually making myself miserable by watching something that irritated me.
      I turned off games many times these past 2 seasons when they were making me angry instead of happy.

      However, there’s more to this issue: constantly, excessively airing one’s grievances on a public forum like this
      makes it more difficult for others to enjoy what is supposed to be an escape.
      I should not have to apologize for “venting” about what frustrates me, any more than anyone else.
      I have just as much right to get frustrated by the ref complaints, as others do to get frustrated by the refs.

    • #50933
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      That was much better, but someone has to tell Levshunov to SHOOT THE PUCK! Kudos to the referee for correcting himself, taking away the penalty call. Colorado has such a smothering defense. The Hawks had their chances. It is a learning experience. We are going to get a lot of those this year.

    • #50983
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      At the game Bertuzzi kept pointing at the big screen. I’ve never seen it before but i believe they actually watched the video since the UC kept playing it over and over and reversed the call.

      Watching them vs the Avs this team is so close to being really really good once their processing speed catches up to their physical abilities.

    • #51000
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Corey Masisak‬:
      The gap between the Colorado Avalanche and second place in the NHL standings is the same as between second place and 25th.

    • #51010
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Powers:

      “In 10:43 of Bedard and MacKinnon sharing the ice at five-on-five, the Blackhawks had a 15-13 edge in shot attempts,
      7-4 in shots on goal, 7-6 in scoring chances and 2-0 in high-danger chances.”
      Can’t be ashamed of that.

      I don’t want the Hawks to be speaking of moral victories.
      But it’s okay if we do it.

    • #51041

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>So, here is a suggestion for the NHL. Institute a rule that reads Any contact with the head, whether intentional or incidental, will result in a game misconduct. Then let’s see how often it happens.

      In the NFL intentional or not, it’s at least a fine. Intentional is a suspension.

    • #51044

      A game like this against the AVS is why I wasn’t impressed with Frondell’s hot start. Instead of having 8 goals at the time, in the NHL he’d probably have zero. Just using him as an example, he had way too much space, too much time and too crappy goal tending.

    • #51050
      Metalhead
      Participant

      A game like this against the AVS is why I wasn’t impressed with Frondell’s hot start.

      Yeah, makes me nervous tbh.
      He has good size, hopefully he will be okay getting dirty around the net.

    • #51061
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      A game like this against the AVS is why I wasn’t impressed with Frondell’s hot start. Instead of having 8 goals at the time, in the NHL he’d probably have zero. Just using him as an example, he had way too much space, too much time and too crappy goal tending.

      Really? I thought the opposite, and when watching the other prospects like Misa, Desnoyer and others who had all day and then some to make things happen, Frondell to me had to make things happen quickly. I also think against the team like the Avs they were fantastic like the Blackhawks taking away the pass opposite the goalie, they need to get the puck low, get it back high to the defender and the forwards need to crash the net, gotta get dirty goals against the Avs you can’t pass them in.

      I’m probably wrong but i think Frondell going to the net and creating havoc would of been a good thing for the team last night

    • #51077
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Besides it sounds like Frondell was playing so well and getting a ton of media attention they demoted him to the 3rd line? They said it was best for his development? At one point they played him minimum minutes and the Blackhawks got involved.

    • #51099
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Besides it sounds like Frondell was playing so well and getting a ton of media attention they demoted him to the 3rd line? They said it was best for his development? At one point they played him minimum minutes and the Blackhawks got involved.

      Did I miss some reporting on Frondell?

    • #51103
      Metalhead
      Participant
    • #51104
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Did I miss some reporting on Frondell?

      It sounded like maybe their version of giving him some rest, instead of healthy scratching him?

    • #51108
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I can post some excerpts if it’s paywalled for you.

    • #51609
      wizardofi
      Participant

      Thought the Hawks played better than the outcome tonight.

    • #51653
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Happy Thanksgiving folks

      • #51665
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans out there.

        Thanksgiving is a milestone to determine playoff contention. By point per game %, Tankathon has the Hawks out of the playoff picture. CHI with the 11th pick and Florida with the 12th. Just for the heck of it I did a draft simulation and the Panthers moved up 10 spots to 2 and the Hawks dropped to 12.

    • #51655
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s nice not to be completely out of the playoff picture by this time of the year, thankful for the product on the ice its so much better than last year.

      Long season but i can see them being high 70s to mid 80 point team. That would be a very nice improvement for this organization.

    • #51825

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans out there.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Thanksgiving is a milestone to determine playoff contention. By point per game %, Tankathon has the Hawks out of the playoff picture. CHI with the 11th pick and Florida with the 12th. Just for the heck of it I did a draft simulation and the Panthers moved up 10 spots to 2 and the Hawks dropped to 12.

      I think there are scenarios where we continue to get better than we’ve been this year: Lev has a monster second half; Lardis comes up and adds a spark; Moore and Nazar heat up; KD adds a body or two… Then again, we get a bunch of injuries and it all comes crashing down. At least for the first time in many years the arrow is pointing up.

    • #51970
      Assman22
      Participant

      By point per game %, Tankathon has the Hawks out of the playoff picture. CHI with the 11th pick and Florida with the 12th.

      Package them and move up to top 5?

    • #52000
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      When all said and done they might have one top 5 anyways, besides like me odds if i get 2 in the 1st round especially top 10.

    • #52211
      Assman22
      Participant

      With Hawks needing to get to the salary floor next season and having a $30 million gap to do so, there’s been rumors of bringing in a big vet with a large cap hit like trading for Stamkos to help bridge said gap. Stamkos has a $8 mil cap hit for two more seasons. Problem is his production has fallen off since joining the Preds however there is another horse in the race the Hawks may be inclined to bringing in on a short two year deal without trading assets: Artemi Panarin.

      Breadman is still a ppg player and could play top line with Bedard and Burakovsky or 2nd line with lil Frankie and Turbo while Bert bumps back up to 98’s line. Panarin adds a scoring threat this roster really needs for both 5v5 and PP.

      I don’t see any forwards in Rockford this year that’ll make the jump next season. Not even Lardis. Maybe Frondell but he’s currently playing 3rd line in Sweden so yikes. Vanacker, Spellacy, Kantserov, and possibly Pridham will be added to Hogs roster but will need at least a full season in Rockford before they’re potentially viable options. Seems to be a 2 year gap before a wave of legit prospects are ready to push for NHL spots so a 2 year deal for someone like Panarin would make a lot of sense plus re-signing Mik or Dickinson.

    • #52396
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      With Hawks needing to get to the salary floor next season and having a $30 million gap to do so, there’s been rumors of bringing in a big vet with a large cap hit like trading for Stamkos to help bridge said gap. Stamkos has a $8 mil cap hit for two more seasons. Problem is his production has fallen off since joining the Preds however there is another horse in the race the Hawks may be inclined to bringing in on a short two year deal without trading assets: Artemi Panarin.

      Breadman is still a ppg player and could play top line with Bedard and Burakovsky or 2nd line with lil Frankie and Turbo while Bert bumps back up to 98’s line. Panarin adds a scoring threat this roster really needs for both 5v5 and PP.

      I don’t see any forwards in Rockford this year that’ll make the jump next season. Not even Lardis. Maybe Frondell but he’s currently playing 3rd line in Sweden so yikes. Vanacker, Spellacy, Kantserov, and possibly Pridham will be added to Hogs roster but will need at least a full season in Rockford before they’re potentially viable options. Seems to be a 2 year gap before a wave of legit prospects are ready to push for NHL spots so a 2 year deal for someone like Panarin would make a lot of sense plus re-signing Mik or Dickinson.

      I recall in years past I’ve heard many say who wants to play for the Blackhawks?

      I imagine that there may be some vets out there that might believe the Blackhawks might be in a great position with young players who are still on their rookie contracts to compete for not only the playoffs but the Stanley Cup next season.

      I do think KD is in a fantastic position to get what he may feel he needs, he’s actually putting himself in the driver’s seat because of all the assets he has, draft capital and no salary cap restrictions.

    • #52422

      Don’t look now but Lev is on the rookie scoring leaders list with Demidov. The Lev pick is looking better every day. Demidov is a one trick pony. Lev is a horse you’re going to ride.

    • #52432
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Lev still needs to master the art of checking. Hire Bickell as a coach.

    • #52513

      Lev still needs to master the art of checking. Hire Bickell as a coach.

      Not a D-Man either but I’m going with Dave Bolland.

    • #52595
      Metalhead
      Participant

      KFC was just live on Seravalli’s show.

      They asked him about Bedard, Frondell, then Rinzel/Arty, then Blashill.
      He didn’t say anything of substance, just supported his people with positive comments.

    • #52835
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Glad to see the team is playing well and having great periods against some solid teams. Seems like every game lately, we have at least one period where we dominate and overall we seem to be playing teams more even 5v5. The standings are so tight, the few blown calls by the refs and a minor mistakes have been the difference from this team being around the top 10 vs being 21st in the league.

      I know the goaltending has been huge, but if they can just tighten the screws a little more defensively and find one more star forward, this team is going to start to be a problem.

      I like Rinzel’s game, but man he has been getting caught a half step behind a bit too much lately and taking penalties or just barely getting away with infractions because he is trying to keep up. Last night vs Vegas he probably could have been called a couple more times for getting his stick in the hands because he was beat. I’m wondering if the NHL grind is wearing on him a bit.

      Overall, really like the position we are in. Cap space is looking good. Young players growing into bigger roles. Prospects excelling in various leagues right now. 5 more draft picks this year in the first 2 rounds. We could be in for a really fun next 5-10+ years or more depending how they manage these assets.

    • #52839

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Glad to see the team is playing well and having great periods against some solid teams. Seems like every game lately, we have at least one period where we dominate and overall we seem to be playing teams more even 5v5. The standings are so tight, the few blown calls by the refs and a minor mistakes have been the difference from this team being around the top 10 vs being 21st in the league.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I know the goaltending has been huge, but if they can just tighten the screws a little more defensively and find one more star forward, this team is going to start to be a problem.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I like Rinzel’s game, but man he has been getting caught a half step behind a bit too much lately and taking penalties or just barely getting away with infractions because he is trying to keep up. Last night vs Vegas he probably could have been called a couple more times for getting his stick in the hands because he was beat. I’m wondering if the NHL grind is wearing on him a bit.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Overall, really like the position we are in. Cap space is looking good. Young players growing into bigger roles. Prospects excelling in various leagues right now. 5 more draft picks this year in the first 2 rounds. We could be in for a really fun next 5-10+ years or more depending how they manage these assets.

      I can’t wait until we dominate the Preds. I hate those mother )(&^$#@×/_>.

    • #52841
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Glad to see the team is playing well and having great periods against some solid teams. Seems like every game lately, we have at least one period where we dominate and overall we seem to be playing teams more even 5v5. The standings are so tight, the few blown calls by the refs and a minor mistakes have been the difference from this team being around the top 10 vs being 21st in the league.

      I know the goaltending has been huge, but if they can just tighten the screws a little more defensively and find one more star forward, this team is going to start to be a problem.

      I like Rinzel’s game, but man he has been getting caught a half step behind a bit too much lately and taking penalties or just barely getting away with infractions because he is trying to keep up. Last night vs Vegas he probably could have been called a couple more times for getting his stick in the hands because he was beat. I’m wondering if the NHL grind is wearing on him a bit.

      Overall, really like the position we are in. Cap space is looking good. Young players growing into bigger roles. Prospects excelling in various leagues right now. 5 more draft picks this year in the first 2 rounds. We could be in for a really fun next 5-10+ years or more depending how they manage these assets.

      I do notice he gets caught flat footed at times at the blue line, i think one of his off season workouts will be to improve the first step backwards. I do agree they could of called some on him but if they did LVGK would of been in the box all night. I’m really not complaining i want them to have to battle through the infractions it’s only going to make them better, just an observation of how many teams are having to play this style to compete and beat us.

    • #52851
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s crazy to me that 11 players on this team are 24 and younger.

      Knight is fantastic
      38 goals
      81 Apples

      Subtract Bedard you’ve got 21 goals by 8 different players, at that rate you’ve got 60ish goals and 180 apples to end the season, that’s not including the vets and whatever Connor ends the season with?

    • #52853
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I was just curious since we are so far under the cap for next year, i imagine the Blackhawks will be paying the max bonus to Connor Bedard and I’m sure other ELC players will be getting a bonus, can the Blackhawks count that money towards next years cap hit?

    • #52875

      I was just curious since we are so far under the cap for next year, i imagine the Blackhawks will be paying the max bonus to Connor Bedard and I’m sure other ELC players will be getting a bonus, can the Blackhawks count that money towards next years cap hit?

      All the bonuses we paid for the 2010 cup win, especially Toews’ huge bonus went into 2011? So I expect so?

      • #52882
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Great question…

        This falls under the NHL’s Performance Bonus Carryover (Overage) rule. Teams are allowed to go over the cap during the season if players hit their bonuses — but any amount that pushes them over gets charged against next year’s cap.

        So yes, the Blackhawks can use that mechanism. If Bedard or any other ELC players hit their performance bonuses, Chicago could end up with an overage that reduces next year’s available cap space.

        This is why some rebuilding teams intentionally take on a bad contract or two — they have the room, and bonus overages won’t hurt them long-term.

        But starting next season, extensions for guys like Bedard, Nazar, and Knight will tighten the cap picture, so Chicago won’t have quite as much flexibility as they do right now.

    • #52936
      boilermaker
      Participant

      was just curious since we are so far under the cap for next year, i imagine the Blackhawks will be paying the max bonus to Connor Bedard and I’m sure other ELC players will be getting a bonus, can the Blackhawks count that money towards next years cap hit?

      Don’t think so Dots. From an article I read the bonuses are applied to the cap as soon as they are earned. If, at the end of year there’s not enough cap space to absorb the bonuses, then the balance is rolled over to the next year.

      Per Puckpedia, Hawks are sitting 20M under the cap as of now. Total bonus payout for the players on ELC are:

      Bedard 1M “A” bonuses, 2.5M “B” bonuses = 3.5M total
      Nazar 900K “A”
      Moore 600K “A”
      Greene 750K “A”
      Rinzel 500K “A”
      Levshunov 1M “A” , 2.25M “B” = 3.25M total

      “A” bonuses are for reaching various plateaus within the team for goals, assists, points, TOI, +/-
      “B” awards are for winning league awards or finishing in the top 10 in scoring among forward or d-men.

      Even if all the young players somehow achieve all their bonuses, the total above is about 9.5M well under the cap space the Hawks have for this season.

      • #52944
        boilermaker
        Participant

        A KD interview with Frank Seravalli from yesterday. Talks about Bedard, Frondell and other prospects.

    • #53073
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Again, they are on ESPN+. I think I should get a rebate from CHSN. This is BS!

    • #53098

      BS, Kuemper gets 3rd star of the game over Knight.

    • #53170
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Nice game on the road. Knight is difference maker in the standings, we probably have won 3 or 4 more games because of him than we would have if Mrazek was still here. That’s the difference between being in a wildcard spot vs battling Vancouver for last in the west. Have to give the team in front of him some credit too at they have been improving the shot differential, which has been almost even the last 4 wweks.

      Some interesting stats. Only 2 teams in the west have more regulation wins that Chicago (Colorado/Dallas) and they are right now top 10 PP in the league and top 5 PK. The team is making progress!

    • #53177
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I said about a month ago since Knight is playing so well when are teams going to start making that extra pass that ends up not being a shot on goal. I think that’s part of it especially since the Blackhawks are getting better and better at transition, so teams tend to cycle more and so on.

      Just look at the Jets, 2-5-1 since Helly got hurt?

      My favorite stat is +7 goal differential

      It’s fun to watch this team just put a lot of pressure on the opponent with their ability to skate and just be all over the ice at times.

      I can’t wait till more kids come.

    • #53178
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      If the team in Sweden is going to continue to have Frondell play on the 3rd line I would prefer he did that here in the states. The sooner the better.

    • #53179
      Assman22
      Participant

      Just look at the Jets, 2-5-1 since Helly got hurt?

      Wonder if they’ll get in on the Brossoit sweepstakes. He played very well when he was with their club.

    • #53236
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Brossoit in goal for the Hogs tonight. They are down 2-0 in the 2nd.

    • #53267
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      What a pass by Boisvert.

    • #53636

      As a guy who doesn’t follow the whole league, how did the Ducks rebuild so fast?

    • #53680
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Wow! That was a kick in the teeth to their confidence level. Now that Rinzel has been sent down, I guess he has no choice but to go to 12/6. Can it be any more evident that these guys are tired? 13 goals against in two games? Blashill should know better. Half of this team are kids. He is killing them!

    • #53681
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Team gets an historic ass kicking and the GM’s scapegoats the 7th D and 13th forward.

    • #53694
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I’m happy to see that coaching / management has finally seen the light with Rinzel.
      This was overdue.

      Also, imo it is not about scapegoating Rinzel or Slaggert.
      Slaggert was not playing much anyway, he needs more regular action. He’ll get that in RFD.
      Rinzel has been showing his lack of experience regularly. He needs top minutes and PP work, even some PK would probably be a good idea.

      I’m not wild about the fact that, without a callup, they have only 12F and 6D healthy.
      Foligno’s “4 week” recovery timeline would have him ready on Sunday. Maybe he is closer to returning?
      They’ve been playing 11F so if one guy went down it would not be any different from most games this year.
      It seems very risky on defense, if someone gets sick or twists an ankle at practice.
      Wednesday is a home game so they could get someone pretty fast but not instantly.

      They gotta have a 7th D-man nearby for Wednesday. It would be reckless not to have a plan for that.
      It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

      • #53730
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        It was a big mistake to rush Rinzel and now they have another Jokiharju, Boqvist, KK situation. Hawks should have signed Orlov in the off season. Rinzel could be growing in Rockford.

    • #53716
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      As a guy who doesn’t follow the whole league, how did the Ducks rebuild so fast?

      8 years isn’t so fast. That’s what it took for the Devils

    • #53722
      Metalhead
      Participant

      As a guy who doesn’t follow the whole league, how did the Ducks rebuild so fast?

      Here’s what I can see—–

      Mason McTavish: winner pick at 3rd overall.
      Leo Carlsson: picked 2nd right after Bedard, he’s a stud
      Cutter Gauthier: relationship w/Phillie went South. Ducks gave up a good young RH D-man in Jamie Drysdale
      to get him but the trade went way better for Anaheim than the Flyers.
      Beckett Sennecke: not sure if the Ducks have some genius scouting or what, but
      he was ranked about 10th in 2024, and they selected him 3rd overall. Worked out great so far.
      Jackson LaCombe: young d-man improved greatly.
      Dostal got good.

      Signed Killorn when TBL had cap constraints. (IIRC)
      Traded for Trouba on the cheap when the Rangers fell apart and let everyone know they were open for business.
      Good signings of Kreider and Granlund.

    • #53723
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Team gets an historic ass kicking and the GM’s scapegoats the 7th D and 13th forward.

      Oh wow, really nice to see you posting here, Steve. You’re gonna love reading Frenchy. Look forward to reading your guy’s interactions.

    • #53724
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      As a guy who doesn’t follow the whole league, how did the Ducks rebuild so fast?

      Here’s what I can see—–

      Mason McTavish: winner pick at 3rd overall.
      Leo Carlsson: picked 2nd right after Bedard, he’s a stud
      Cutter Gauthier: relationship w/Phillie went South. Ducks gave up a good young RH D-man in Jamie Drysdale
      to get him but the trade went way better for Anaheim than the Flyers.
      Beckett Sennecke: not sure if the Ducks have some genius scouting or what, but
      he was ranked about 10th in 2024, and they selected him 3rd overall. Worked out great so far.
      Jackson LaCombe: young d-man improved greatly.
      Dostal got good.

      Signed Killorn when TBL had cap constraints. (IIRC)
      Traded for Trouba on the cheap when the Rangers fell apart and let everyone know they were open for business.
      Good signings of Kreider and Granlund.

      Nice summary. They also added Gudas too and didn’t trade away Troy Terry for draft picks. Verbeek hit on a lotta picks, trades and signings opting to add legit vets to their young core….. Despite signing TT and Bert KD has chosen to wait to see what his picks develop into before adding significant vets.

      • #53727
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        A lot of great comments from many people…

        But one name that doesn’t get mentioned enough is Martin Madden. He’s been running their scouting department as assistant GM for more than 18 years, and he’s a huge reason this franchise is where it is today. He’s the real key behind their success.

      • #53731
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        KD has fallen in love with his picks and is too passive. At this pace Foligno should win the Hart because the Hawks have looked worse than the Richardson years in several games since he was hurt. Buffalo, Seattle, Nashville, ANA first 45 seconds, LA, Sunday in ANA.

    • #53790
      Assman22
      Participant

      I’m not wild about the fact that, without a callup, they have only 12F and 6D healthy.

      Only need 12/6 for Wednesday and can callup someone for Friday if needed. Hogs are in Iowa on Wed night and home on Fri night.

      Would like to see Rinzel/EDM pairing in Rockford.

    • #53793

      KD has fallen in love with his picks and is too passive. At this pace Foligno should win the Hart because the Hawks have looked worse than the Richardson years in several games since he was hurt. Buffalo, Seattle, Nashville, ANA first 45 seconds, LA, Sunday in ANA.

      Where were you on the last road trip? Oh yeah, things went well.

      • #53925
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        They were getting great goaltending and scoring on over 13% of their shots early in the season. Both are regressing. San Jose and Anaheim have passed them at this point. There does not appear to be any pressure from ownership, media, or the fan base to win now. Everyone has swallowed the Cool-Aid that Frondell, Kanserov, Lardis and others are going to arrive soon and turn this around. Bedard is in year 3 and just scratching the surface of what he will be. Those guys will take as long if not longer. It is past time for a bold move. Toninato is not enough. Quinn Hughes is moving. Hawks and Canucks have made many low level deals. Hughes has 1.5 years remaining on his deal and can get a 8 year deal if he resigns this summer. The CBA is going to reduce that to 7 to resign and 6 as an UFA. That change could potentially cost him $30 million. Hopefully Hawks GM is on the phone and figuring out what it will take to get him.

    • #53798
      Assman22
      Participant

      Blackhawks have recalled forward Dominic Toninato from the IceHogs.

      Toninato, 31, has 17 points (five goals, 12 assists) in 24 games this season with Rockford. He appeared in 20 NHL games with the Winnipeg Jets the previous three seasons combined. The Blackhawks signed Toninato to a two-year, two-way contract on July 1.

    • #53841
      LAHawk
      Participant

      As a guy who doesn’t follow the whole league, how did the Ducks rebuild so fast?

      8 years isn’t so fast. That’s what it took for the Devils

      Verbeek took over 2 months after Davidson in 2022. There is exactly one player (Terry) on the roster that preceded the “Little ball of hate”.

      Man every time I see Senecke I wonder how he was not considered a top 10 pick. What a fine young player.

      On another note you had to figure about this time the Hawks were going to wear down. How many have played this many games/practices in a season ( the college guys primarily) that they have already played in the season this far.

    • #53842
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I’m not wild about the fact that, without a callup, they have only 12F and 6D healthy.

      Only need 12/6 for Wednesday and can callup someone for Friday if needed. Hogs are in Iowa on Wed night and home on Fri night.

      Would like to see Rinzel/EDM pairing in Rockford.

      They said these were the moves they were going to make, KD even said something Blashill had said, when it gets to a point when we think a player is trying to survive instead of strive its time for them to be sent to the Rock to work on their game.

      I think they are handling this season great.

    • #53893
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      So i guess the timeline only matters to you but not the 2 completely directions both clubs were going in at the time both GMs took over, cool.

    • #53930
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Well Steve Anaheim and San Jose have been rebuilding longer so if anyone passes anyone…..

      I do believe we went 2-1 against the mighty ducks?

      Also did you know that the Habs lost 2 games in a row this year total score 12-1?

      You were the same guy who said the Blackhawks were ruining Bedard.

      Steve always wants the quick fix.

      • #53959
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        I said they were ruining Korchinski. I said they were wasting Bedard because they failed to surround him with talent. They found a slightly above average winger for him this year and Bedard is approaching the top of the league. I also thought the coaching was subpar under Richardson and was skewered for it.

        I don’t think Blashill is Q but is there anyone out here that looks back fondly on the Richardson years?

        There is nothing quick about Davidson except collecting his check on the 1st and 15th.

    • #53940
      LAHawk
      Participant

      So i guess the timeline only matters to you but not the 2 completely directions both clubs were going in at the time both GMs took over, cool.

      So i guess the timeline only matters to you but not the 2 completely directions both clubs were going in at the time both GMs took over, cool.

      What trades did Murray make that brought back any draft capital of significance? You don’t have to look it up, it was zero.

      I guess if you have a bad record that means you are rebuilding. If that is the case then under your theory the Hawks are in year 10 of the rebuild.

    • #53954
      Assman22
      Participant

      They said these were the moves they were going to make, KD even said something Blashill had said, when it gets to a point when we think a player is trying to survive instead of strive its time for them to be sent to the Rock to work on their game.

      I think they are handling this season great.

      I agree. From the outside looking in, there’s been moves I would’ve made a little sooner but they eventually made them and sure there’s a lot behind the scenes that they consider prior to making final decisions that we are not 100% privy to. Good on them thus far, keep it going!

    • #53955
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I get it LA the grass is always greener with other teams

      When did the Ducks trade 2 first round picks for an above average defenseman in that time line.

      They did the smart thing and traded for a disgruntled forward who was drafted 5th OA.

      Which gives them 2OA, 3OA, 3OA AND a 5th OA forwards group. Drafted in the past 5 years.

    • #53957
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The Ducks defense isn’t very good but hey the new trend in hockey is let’s outscore everyone

    • #53994

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I said they were ruining Korchinski. I said they were wasting Bedard because they failed to surround him with talent. They found a slightly above average winger for him this year and Bedard is approaching the top of the league. I also thought the coaching was subpar under Richardson and was skewered for it.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I don’t think Blashill is Q but is there anyone out here that looks back fondly on the Richardson years?

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>There is nothing quick about Davidson except collecting his check on the 1st and 15th.

      Bedard worked on his body this offseason. He’s a different player than his first two years. Kudos to him for understanding what he needed to do. Now if he could just win an f’ing face-off.

    • #54001
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Motherfucker I lost a long post!
      The mistke was to not start it elsewhere.
      Steve Steve Steve, we aren’t ever angry about ylour strong opinion of Richardson, but I am not so sure all of us here just felt the Bedard era had to start somewhere and we were never thinking that Kye was filling the line-up to get them into contention, just getting guy he thought might handle the room for awhile and if lightning in bottle happened, great

      I think that the board in general is willing to look for watch for growth, before wishing for any about face on Kyle / coach or anything.

      On Quint I am with you 100%

      They better try to convince Quinn that on road games there are no three beds in a room, and he might have to miss the 2026 cup finals but would have a chance to be a perenial participant.
      The hawks would have selected him in the draft slot after the Canucks if they hadn’t taken him draft Adam Boqvist after him.

      I think I am very happy with the corps youngsters Kaiser, Vlasic, Levshunov, and 7th man defender Crevier and the 2 vets sandwiched along side of the FOR NOW.

      Quint Hughes is just what that group sorely lacks, a Bedard-like puck carrier who is an offensive generator and finisher.

      Sure, there might be an inclination to simply wait and hope that one of these kids, like Artyom Levshunov will evolve into that but they have no guarantees since he seems timid attacking off in offense zone as a FINISHER. Oh, he will take a shot but it almost like he has been following what he was told to be careful.

      And Quinn Hughes feet and age are perfect to add him to the payroll now, because although he bites in the CAP, you them use any of the defensemen in the farm (Ethan Del Mastro, Nolan Allen,KK) who will all would love to see on injury call-ups filling in if the “other” hawk NHL defenseman start asking for large sums.

      Too me the bargain is adding an advanced weapon, as contrary to using one of the 2026 first rounders to draft one of the plethora of Q Hughes types taht will get drafted around where they will be picking.

      On Spector’s Hockey today, I said given up as an
      Who needs two more first rounders in 2026 draft LESS that the Blackhawks?
      Whose missing the exact type of backline attacker Quinn Hughes is more than Chicago?
      They just need to get in Quinn’s ear that the absence of competing in the 2026 playoff would be a follow-up to many more years as the ‘hawks team grows. Personally never understood how the league easily helped Burkie get both Sedans.
      Now the Hughes family is making quite the ask: Acquire other brother, stay competitive and moreover IMPROVE to a true Cup contender.
      Does this mean the established Devil bros will take home town deals with THEIR re-ups?
      Because Fitz sorted gets handcuffed into a cap situation that be a jam in further player adds.

      BUT…you do. Nit want to pursue a trade that implodes like the Rantanen one where you end results have personnel exchanged in a second trade that weakens the team now an long term, so get Hughes to commit.

      On to Korchinski…

      Ruined him?
      The decision to get him out of the WHL on an NHL roster of one of the leagues worst teams at 18 to see just how fast things are?
      Did it accelerate failure? Seems to me he simply got an up front reality check as to what he sees to improve.

      Is there some information that he has he has given up his development as Rockford Icehog?

      His failure like every young skilled defender starts with what they started with and how they improve it.

      Did they envision a Q Hughes with that early pick? I dunno but they wanted feet and speed and handling.

      He builds on it or he doesn’t – it just doesn’t seem a debate point.

    • #54005
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Steve Steve Steve, we aren’t ever angry about ylour strong opinion of Richardson, but I am not so sure all of us here just felt the Bedard era had to start somewhere and we were never thinking that Kye was filling the line-up to get them into contention, just getting guy he thought might handle the room for awhile and if lightning in bottle happened, great

      I think that the board in general is willing to look for watch for growth, before wishing for any about face on Kyle / coach or anything.

      On Quint I am with you 100%

      They better try to convince Quinn that on road games there are no three beds in a room, and he might have to miss the 2026 cup finals but would have a chance to be a perenial participant.
      The hawks would have selected him in the draft slot after the Canucks if they hadn’t taken him draft Adam Boqvist after him.

      I think I am very happy with the corps youngsters Kaiser, Vlasic, Levshunov, and 7th man defender Crevier and the 2 vets sandwiched along side of the FOR NOW.

      Quint Hughes is just what that group sorely lacks, a Bedard-like puck carrier who is an offensive generator and finisher.

      Sure, there might be an inclination to simply wait and hope that one of these kids, like Artyom Levshunov will evolve into that but they have no guarantees since he seems timid attacking off in offense zone as a FINISHER. Oh, he will take a shot but it almost like he has been following what he was told to be careful.

      And Quinn Hughes feet and age are perfect to add him to the payroll now, because although he bites in the CAP, you them use any of the defensemen in the farm (Ethan Del Mastro, Nolan Allen,KK) who will all would love to see on injury call-ups filling in if the “other” hawk NHL defenseman start asking for large sums.

      Too me the bargain is adding an advanced weapon, as contrary to using one of the 2026 first rounders to draft one of the plethora of Q Hughes types taht will get drafted around where they will be picking.

      On Spector’s Hockey today, I said given up as an
      Who needs two more first rounders in 2026 draft LESS that the Blackhawks?
      Whose missing the exact type of backline attacker Quinn Hughes is more than Chicago?
      They just need to get in Quinn’s ear that the absence of competing in the 2026 playoff would be a follow-up to many more years as the ‘hawks team grows. Personally never understood how the league easily helped Burkie get both Sedans.
      Now the Hughes family is making quite the ask: Acquire other brother, stay competitive and moreover IMPROVE to a true Cup contender.
      Does this mean the established Devil bros will take home town deals with THEIR re-ups?
      Because Fitz sorted gets handcuffed into a cap situation that be a jam in further player adds.

      BUT…you do. Nit want to pursue a trade that implodes like the Rantanen one where you end results have personnel exchanged in a second trade that weakens the team now an long term, so get Hughes to commit.

      On to Korchinski…

      Ruined him?
      The decision to get him out of the WHL on an NHL roster of one of the leagues worst teams at 18 to see just how fast things are?
      Did it accelerate failure? Seems to me he simply got an up front reality check as to what he sees to improve.

      Is there some information that he has he has given up his development as Rockford Icehog?

      His failure like every young skilled defender starts with what they started with and how they improve it.

      Did they envision a Q Hughes with that early pick? I dunno but they wanted feet and speed and handling.

      He builds on it or he doesn’t – it just doesn’t seem a debate point.

    • #54011
      Assman22
      Participant

      Wiz, I saw your mock draft had the Hawks selecting two Swede forwards (Stenberg/Nordmark) with their top two picks. Any elaboration on those? Would the Hawks really pass on Roobroeck for Stenberg? Curious on your thoughts and thanks in advance.

      • #54012
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Ivar Stenberg has 6G 18A 24P in 25GP in the SHL. Ivar is projected to reach numbers we have never seen out of an 18y/o in the SHL. He is on pace for 12G 37A 49P in 52GP

        Daniel Sedin has the record for 18 y/o point totals
        in the #SHL 50GP 21G 21A 42P

    • #54064
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Does anyone believe that Kantserov will be in the NHL next season?

    • #54065
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Somehow someway Blackhawks shut out the Rangers tonight, it’s a young team learning in the NHL.

      That 3rd period was a clinic hope to see that more often.

      Blackhawks give up 13 goals in 2 games, looks terrible

      Blackhawks give up 14 goals in 4 games it doesn’t look as bad

    • #54077
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Since the draft and final standings are still so in flux to me, you’ll see me play with the list so I can try an attempt guess what will be there for the picks.
      Yeah, as Frenchy said the little brother Ivar that boasted to Glencoe Steve’s kid that he would be coming in 2 yrs. certainly backed it up, so far and he’s all game competitor who fears nothing, so far.

      Unless the win a lottery move, I see those picks as being made by the ‘hawks, unless they acquire a high salaried scorer.

      They might lean CJ Reid, and Ryan Roobroeck a big kid you wait for, will go sometime mid round especialy a bit later if there is a run on the run n gun offensive men.

      I like two Finns Oscar Suvanto and Hemming equally as much as the mid late round Nordmark,Hermansson, and Malte Gustaffson Swedish kids and one plays in Djurgårdens IF J20 will get great intel from like Jack Hextall, Kruger and scouts.
      They may target a home run type Simon Katolicý (hit or miss) or really check for a future Quinn Hughes.

      Centres like Jack Hextall Colin Fitzgerald, and i the first round Brantford’s Caleb Malhotra you they see a lot of…

    • #54097
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Quinn Hughes says he wants to play with his brothers?

      There is no way i would trade for him if I was the Blackhawks.

      What a mess the Canucks have become. Many bitching about KD and Co. It could be much worse

    • #54102
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant
    • #54104
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Re: Roman Kantserov

      Oh, I think he wants to come and his resume will have a strong developmental year added as he already has surpassed his KHL totals from last year.
      It is is always so difficult to attempt to gauge transition to the bigs, but I know his training camp performances will decide if he is an NHLer, or worth a shot as a NHLer right off the gate, or he gets defensive repitition in the Rockford.

      I know what I would like to see the Blackhawk coaching staff to do is place three prominent prospects on a line, leave themmthere and start matching the current checking unit against them, then the third line for a practice,then the Nazar line second unitin a practice and finally to a matching them against top line…no inserting them alongside two of the current teams players as most teams do.

      I am talking about Frondell in the centre position and Kantserov and Lardis. Three lefties. You might find out very quickly how each fares defensively, and read their pro vitals in the defensive aspects.

      and you what elese I WOULD DO?

      I would try flipping Lardis to right wing, and Roman to left wing.

      Lardis sets up so well form the right side of teh ice, and Kantserov needs to show he can play both sides and both players must prove that they are not a one trick ponies before they are elevated.

      So new players arrivals are tough to guess how these guys fare.

      The arrival more speed and scoring is welcome, but I doubt they hand the spots to anyone. If fact I am to the opinion they may want to extend a vet or two, and that may hamper saving any spots for any framboys.

    • #54132

      Move Crevier to Center and use him on shoot outs. An obvious move imagine the goalie seeing the big guy coming down the ice at him.

    • #54136
      Assman22
      Participant

      Kantserov moved to center this season and is playing on a different level. How about Spellacy on the line with Lardis and Frondell with Kantserov centering then 2nd line with Vanacker and maybe Pridham?

    • #54197
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      How exciting all these kids are coming. Frondell is still scoring goals even if he’s being paired with Marcus Kruger.

      What i like most about Kantserov, Frondell even Lardis they are all playing defense i really don’t know how much time Kantserov will need in the Rock considering he’s one of the best players in maybe the 3rd possibly 2nd best league and is defensively responsible.

      Panarin made the jump seamlessly to smaller ice , i can’t see it being that much of a thing for the kid.

    • #54204
      totem
      Participant

      Mason West playing for Fargo tonight. Streaming on Flo Sports.

    • #54205
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Just wanted to add, i don’t think you lead the KHL in goal scoring by being a perimeter player.

      Folks he has 22 the next closest is 17.

    • #54236
      wizardofi
      Participant

      I don’t think ice size will make a difference as the KHL uses either the Finnish ice size (60mx28m) or NHL sized ice (60mx26m). They don’t use the Olympic ice size (60mx30m). Kantserov’s home ice is the Finnish size, but on the road he could be playing on either sized ice.

    • #54274

      Mason West playing for Fargo tonight. Streaming on Flo Sports.

      What happened to West playing for Michigan State?

    • #54275
      boilermaker
      Participant

      What happened to West playing for Michigan State?

      He is still a senior in high school and will enroll at MSU next year.

    • #54388
      popsghostly
      Participant

      Wow its like getting the band together with Stevefromglencoe and LA chiming in.

      I’d like the Hawks to try to acquire Quinn too. None of Leyshunov, KK, Rinzel are guaranteed to turn out to be stars even if some flashes of it. We get Quinn for his years 26 and 27. Not sure we can resign him but a good run his last year could increase resigning here. We have two firsts next year, some good prospect D’s and young talent down the middle. I do think it’ll cost us one of Nazar or Moore, but to get a Dman of Quinn’s ability in his early prime doesn’t come often. Moore is playing much stronger and is looking much better, much more (drum roll) than just being fast. Nazar seemed gasped in the 2-game blowout stretch but his speed and skills haven’t even fully developed yet. He should come back even better next year. This is all EA Sports type trades but exciting.

      We’d need a guarantee Quinn would resign/extend though. He appears wanting to go East coast which is against our odds.

    • #54428

      It’s not too soon to start projecting Crevier’s next contract. I think due to inflation it will be higher than Vlasic’s and could start with a something x $5.x.

      • #54477
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I don’t expect it. He has one more year left…

        Second, his next deal should be around $2M.

        Kaiser got $1.7M for two years…

        Meanwhile, Crevier is a third-pairing defenseman in the NHL…

    • #54435
      Assman22
      Participant

      It’s not too soon to start projecting Crevier’s next contract. I think due to inflation it will be higher than Vlasic’s and could start with a something x $5.x.

      Lol what? Drinking already Danny?!

    • #54527
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Dad Gummit. That Bedard injury is not good news. If he is gong to be out for an extended period, say good bye to the season and his possible Olympic participation.

      The offense is really going to suffer since he’s been involved in 44 of the team’s 91 goals – just about half. Time for Nazar to put on his big boy pants and start contributing.

    • #54531
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      My Christmas wish, Quinn Hughes doesn’t resign in Minnesota after this trade.
      Or they pay him $17 million per year.

    • #54593
      Assman22
      Participant

      My Christmas wish, Quinn Hughes doesn’t resign in Minnesota after this trade.
      Or they pay him $17 million per year.

      I will say the Nucks did very well in that trade. Not a Rossi fan but gets them someone up the middle for years to come but the big addition is Buium and that 2026 1st. And yes, I’d really like to see Hughes walk from Minnesota over the Jersey when his current deal is up.

    • #54763
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Now that they brought Lardis up I’d like to see the line of Moore, Nazar and Lardis and just let them be.

      • #54942
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        Dots, wishin’ u and all up here A season of joy&happy&yourkindwordsto alldathearthem.

        I was wondering as you were, the management won’t tinker without Lil Fm

    • #54996
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Dots, wishin’ u and all up here A season of joy&happy&yourkindwordsto alldathearthem.

      I was wondering as you were, the management won’t tinker without Lil Fm

      Same to you Wiz enjoy your holiday season, enjoy your wonderful weather in the bay, we were -3 degrees farenheit this morning

    • #55217
      LAHawk
      Participant

      With the new cap rules of teams having to be cap compliant for the playoffs, and there is no proration of salaries for players traded, it will be interesting to see how many of the overpaid vets KD is going to be able to move.

      He has 2 retention spots available, and 4 overpaid vets going UFA (Murphy, Foligno, Dickinson, Mikhayev)

      Gryzlek probably has the most value, as he is only getting paid $1 million.

      Conversely the Hawks will be approx $30 million under the cap next season minus whatever deal Bedard signs. The remaining UFA’s left (Panarin,
      Is probably the top) are pedestrian at best. Does KD go the offer sheet (or trade) using his draft capital for a Jason Robertson, Cole Perfetti, Dylan Holloway), or does he fill out the roster with a TT, Bertuzzi type like an Oliver Bjorkstrand.

      On the bright side of tonight’s game,the Kid line was the best line tonight.

      Although the team record doesn’t show it, IMO Kaiser has been fantastic, and has been the best overall D on the team.

      • #55313
        popsghostly
        Participant

        With the new cap rules of teams having to be cap compliant for the playoffs, and there is no proration of salaries for players traded, it will be interesting to see how many of the overpaid vets KD is going to be able to move.

        He has 2 retention spots available, and 4 overpaid vets going UFA (Murphy, Foligno, Dickinson, Mikhayev)

        Gryzlek probably has the most value, as he is only getting paid $1 million.

        Conversely the Hawks will be approx $30 million under the cap next season minus whatever deal Bedard signs. The remaining UFA’s left (Panarin,
        Is probably the top) are pedestrian at best. Does KD go the offer sheet (or trade) using his draft capital for a Jason Robertson, Cole Perfetti, Dylan Holloway), or does he fill out the roster with a TT, Bertuzzi type like an Oliver Bjorkstrand.

        On the bright side of tonight’s game,the Kid line was the best line tonight.

        Although the team record doesn’t show it, IMO Kaiser has been fantastic, and has been the best overall D on the team.

        Hey LA, strongly agree with you about Kaiser. He moves the puck well and surprising often wins the puck in board battles.

        I think we’ll be getting an unwanted player that a contender moves to obtain a better player like a Hamilton. On the Hawks, like Burakowsky, that player will be an upgrade.

    • #55448
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I am devastated that the Hawks released Marcel Marcel! Good luck, Buddy. I was heartbroken over the loss to Toronto. It looked like they had no interest in playing that game and then the third period happened. I hope they keep the rookie line together. It shows promise. I also hope that Blashill does not go back to the 11/7 split.

      • #55475
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thanks for your comment.

        First, Marcel Marcel requested the release himself to pursue opportunities in Europe. He didn’t see a realistic path to the NHL with the Blackhawks organization, so this was more about opportunity than the team moving on from him.

        I understand the frustration after the loss to Toronto, but I disagree that the team showed no interest. The Blackhawks competed hard for over 55 minutes. Unfortunately, the game turned quickly with two goals in eight seconds, and that changed everything.

        As for the rookie line, I agree — it showed promise. It should be back together tonight, especially with Levshunov returning to the lineup and EDM coming out.

        We’ll see if Blashill sticks with it, but there are encouraging signs moving forward.

    • #55582
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Yeah, I like to think winning in Montreal tonight starts with a strong attack zone presence” that couldn’t never really emerged.
      It would be lovelier to already be benefitting from past draft picks,
      and I wish that there already were useful possibilities precolating in Rockford that they could draw in for games like this one tonight.

      You know another an off-puck defender type forward, and you could’ve added in that size out there playing a Dach-like in establishes. And you want that guy to have Frondell-like upside, but moreover, that you are showing the Montreal advance-takers don’t just see those same not even Nazar-like enough to be asked to occupy long clock and take those beat’ns, over & over, heck, if we had a few more this would be a perfect time to use them.

      It always bothers me when games finally see a team desperate to score, the more they are pushing leading to them to becoming receivers of over-physical
      “defense” that has no chance of seeing an arm go up.

      Habs realize the ‘hawks are fast, but at this juncture they didn’t have a big pushy then likes of who maybe one of their other selections, he bigger boys.

      Yeah, I like to think winning in Montreal tonight starts with a “strong attack zone presence” that emerges in the likes of Behn, Bosivert, West, Nestrasil, or Vanacher. A strong attack zone presence means big, quick-stick forwards, grabbing pucks and establish more physicality than our lines could adequately provide for us, given they are no giants who possess the match-up against them tonight. No wonder if Foligno felt it too, so wanting to play.

      Well, I, the poor sport doesn’t think Roman Kantserov is the answer to strong attack zone presence” either.

    • #55664

      Where is our leading goal scorer from last year?

      • #55696
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        I could be wrong, but it feels like Blashill isn’t a big fan of Donato — or at least that Donato isn’t the type of player Blashill prefers.

    • #55697
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I can’t see a Donata riff with the Coaches as a point that lefts the organization iof the hook.
      Donato and so many of them just are not build to get pounded and sustain pressure, and that isn’t their faults,but they needed a bigger boy dominant player last game and they doesn’t HAVE THEM READY FOR PRIME TIME.

      I love the current roster of forwards, and will not see their toolboxes as deficits, but they all lack what this tram needed in terms of a guy built to counter act the Hab’s thwart.

      Let’s see to it that the current losses contribute to mybe sliding just a little closer to the top spost and they get a skilled physical offensive puck controlling attacker…

    • #55700
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      The Kraken look like a team that could become sellers very soon. Mason Marchment will be a UFA at the end of the season, and Kyle Davidson has some cap space to work with.

      He’s the type of player who fits the prototype the Blackhawks could target — size, edge, and a style that can complement their young core.

    • #55750
      Metalhead
      Participant

      The Kraken look like a team that could become sellers very soon. Mason Marchment will be a UFA at the end of the season

      Frenchy, good call on Marchment being available. Columbus swooped in, not a super huge cost.
      He has a 10 team no trade list, I wonder if the Hawks tried for him. If so, were the Hawks on his list?
      Columbus is last in the East, so it’s not like he went there for a playoff run this year.
      Maybe they already shot him a number for his next contract?

      • #55962
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        don’t know exactly which teams are on his list, but when I spoke with Jim Nill last season about Mason Marchment, he was clear about the situation.

        Dallas needed to clear cap space and was open to moving Marchment. One key point: Marchment wanted to play in a market with very low taxes. Canada was not an option for him.

        I don’t know if Chicago is on his list or not.

        I’ve also been told by an insider that the Kraken could still move two more players, so this is something to keep an eye on.

    • #55787
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I saw the Athletics Blackhawk draft surmising and I have placed all my favorites coming to them as everything os still so up in the air:

      2026 NHL Mock Draft

    • #55816
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Ehhh i don’t think the problem is size as much as want. I think the loss to the Leafs really hurt this team mentally.

      Our best player being hurt doesn’t help either.

      These kids are learning and i don’t care what their size is vs the Habs what happened to driving the net and having support or even doing a drop pass as the forward forces his way to the net, it is a lost art, no they are staying outside and constantly looking for a perfect pass which is rarely there now because the league adjusted to them.

      What i don’t understand is if you are the better skating team why on defense the players are not playing on the hip of each player in the zone?

      Gotta play on the right side of the puck and no matter your size you must be physical you can’t play fly by hockey and when they lose by big numbers it’s exactly how they play.

      Hate to say it but I don’t think they’ll win another game with Soda in net, he looks terrible now

    • #55817
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      But as i said before they gave us a glimpse of what they’ll be next year on a more consistent basis

      Kansterov will help because he is a skilled 200 foot hockey player and goes to the dirty areas.

      Lardis goal today was in front of the net

      Plus the young dmen getting these tough games in will help as well.

      And I’ll just keep saying what I’ve said before once the kids realize they have to be mean bastards in this league the team will begin to have playoff aspirations.

      You already see it with the next captain of the Blackhawks

    • #55818
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Danault is pretty much done

      Marchment? Does he play hockey

    • #55860

      The Kraken look like a team that could become sellers very soon. Mason Marchment will be a UFA at the end of the season

      Frenchy, good call on Marchment being available. Columbus swooped in, not a super huge cost.
      He has a 10 team no trade list, I wonder if the Hawks tried for him. If so, were the Hawks on his list?
      Columbus is last in the East, so it’s not like he went there for a playoff run this year.
      Maybe they already shot him a number for his next contract?

      If a player had Chicago on a no trade list and was ok with Columbus, we don’t need that guy. Too stupid!

    • #55909
      Metalhead
      Participant

      If a player had Chicago on a no trade list and was ok with Columbus, we don’t need that guy.

      Point taken.

      That’s why I wondered if maybe the CBJ shot him a contract number he liked to go there.
      That would make the most sense imo. Maybe we’ll find out.

    • #55910
      LAHawk
      Participant

      If a player had Chicago on a no trade list and was ok with Columbus, we don’t need that guy.

      Point taken.

      That’s why I wondered if maybe the CBJ shot him a contract number he liked to go there.
      That would make the most sense imo. Maybe we’ll find out.

      I don’t think KD has/had any interest in acquiring Marchment, thus it is moot whether Marchment had Chicago on his no trade list or not.

    • #55912
      Metalhead
      Participant

      it is moot whether Marchment had Chicago on his no trade list or not

      It’s just a point of curiosity sir, since Frenchy mentioned Marchment being available and he went to a team low in the standings.

      • #55974
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Based on points percentage, Hawks with the worst record and in the #1 draft choice slot. Just a week or so ago, the Hawks were in a playoff position. The standings are currently tightly bunched and a winning streak would surely move them out of the basement. With Bedard and now Nazar injured that streak is easier said than done.

        With all that said, the WJC torunament begins Friday. Good time to watch some of the potential top draft picks – McKenna, Verhoeff, and Stenberg to name a a few.

    • #56029
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Now that Nazar is hurt, this team is about to take the plunge. Should be an active trade deadline day!

    • #56080

      Now that Nazar is hurt, this team is about to take the plunge. Should be an active trade deadline day!

      KD and the fans got a taste of winning earlier in the season and it felt good. If there’s a trade to be made I’m sure he will make it. Finding the match is always the difficult part. That said, we were at our best when we were using our speed. Therefore, I would expect KD would continue looking to those types of players. The Mik’s and the Bura’s. Wondering why/what happened with KD’s Lafferty move?

    • #56111
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Marchment’s son.

      3rd team in 3 seasons is happening?

      Wishful thinking that the Blackhawks go out looking for trades to supplant Nazar & Bedsy. Losses as fill-ins. Upgrade
      To make a play-off run?
      A run comes if Bedard leads them there with the signed rostered players. That’s why they have Lafferty and Toronto and Slaggert and enough well in Rockford to draw from.

      You really think Kyle from Chicago has to spend for guys they will ave to decide resigning at market, it really doesn’t fit, and an outside signing that could lead to a “couple “ more wins only works against selecting higher in this 2026 draft even without a lottery win.

    • #56112
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      while i am at it:

      San Francisco whallops the Bears and takes control of their playoff standing by grabbing that first seed. Reality checks non the Bears in the post-season, but the organization does little hibernation, and plunges step by step into the 2026-27 season.

    • #56251

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>while i am at it:

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>San Francisco whallops the Bears and takes control of their playoff standing by grabbing that first seed. Reality checks non the Bears in the post-season, but the organization does little hibernation, and plunges step by step into the 2026-27 season.

      The defense is deep and getting guys back. Hopefully Booker doesn’t get suspended. I don’t see anyone walloping this defense.

    • #56256
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      How soon will Foligno be back? They were using Dach at center. They need to bring up a center from the Rock.

      • #56304
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Tomorrow Night:
        Nick Foligno was on the ice at practice and participated in all the drills. He is expected to play tomorrow night when the team hosts the Flyers.

    • #56302
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      How about the nerve of the GM? 10 days ago he scapegoated Rinzel and Slaggert. This week he’s pressuring Bedard to come back from injury. Would Mark Hunter take the job?

      • #56306
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Take note: Connor Bedard did not want to miss any games. It was Jeff Blashill and the medical staff who decided he should take the week off to recover and be re-evaluated after the Christmas break.

        The initial prognosis had him out until the end of December, but there’s a possibility he could return after the Christmas break if he’s fully ready. I don’t see any pressure from the GM in this situation — this was clearly a medical and coaching decision.

        Regarding Sam Rinzel, I believe sending him to the AHL was the right move. He’s getting his confidence back, playing bigger minutes, and continuing to develop his overall game. If the Blackhawks move Grzelcyk and/or Murphy after the trade deadline, roster spots could open up — and Rinzel should be in line for a call-up.

        As for Slaggert, I don’t think the organization sees him as part of the long-term picture. That said, it’s better for him to play heavy minutes in the AHL than to remain in the NHL with a limited role and reduced ice time.

    • #56312
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Are you suggesting the Blashill and the medical staff are not in alignment with the GM or there is some miscommunication regarding Bedard? How can that be? He is the franchise.

      Rinzel never should have started the year in Chicago. It was another rush job. No reason to subject him to this team for the rest of the year. Patiently develop him so he’s here to stay next time.

      If the Hawks don’t view Slaggert as part of the long term picture, why has he been given so many games? Why is taking ice time in Rockford? It is proven, the front office cannot evaluate NHL talent.

      • #56315
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        What I wrote is based directly on what Jeff Blashill said the day after Connor Bedard’s injury. Blashill explained that Connor wanted to return, but the coaching staff and medical team decided it was better for him to take time to recover.

        The initial prognosis was out until the end of the month, but there was always a possibility he could return after the Christmas break if fully recovered. That doesn’t point to any miscommunication or lack of alignment with the GM — it shows a franchise protecting its most important player.

        Regarding Sam Rinzel, Blashill clearly liked him early in the season and wanted him in the lineup. Right or wrong, the decision was made. Now he’s in the AHL, and that’s where development takes priority. Prospect development is not linear — every player follows a different path.

        We’ve seen that with players coming from different leagues and backgrounds — Lardis, Moore, Greene, Levshunov, and others. What works for one prospect doesn’t automatically apply to another. That’s part of evaluation and development.

        As for Slaggert, when I say I don’t see him as part of the long-term picture, that’s my evaluation. He fits the category of a “transition player.” Every rebuilding team has them — players who help bridge the gap while prospects mature. That doesn’t mean he has no value, but it does explain why he’s moved between Chicago and Rockford.

        Overall, I believe the organization is building the right way, but this requires patience. There are more strong draft picks ahead — hopefully another top-three pick — and next season you could see players like Frondell and Kantserov enter the organization.

        Realistically, it’s probably two more years before this team starts to look significantly better. Until then, the key is to trust the process, follow the individual development of players, and understand where the team is in its rebuild.

        I also believe stability matters. Keeping the front office and coaching staff together helps build culture, identity, and a place where players want to play and grow in Chicago.

        The next step for Kyle Davidson will be deciding who stays, who goes, accumulating more assets, and continuing to shape the roster. It’s a long process — and it’s not always easy — but patience is still the key.

        Thanks for the discussion today.

      • #56337
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        You can spin the Davidson quote all you want but it puts Bedard in a bad light for no reason. Another self inflected wound from the GM.

        As for the Hawks being 2 years away, away from what? The Habs, Ducks, and Caps are 2 years away from being Cup contenders because their young players are going to be hitting their prime and supported by vets. In 2 years the Hawks will still be integrating early 20 year olds who are just going to be learning the league. Who knows what vets will be supporting them?

        The last thing this franchise needs is stoic stability and letting Davidson figure out who goes and who stays. He did the tear down. There are a few interesting pieces but do you really trust him to wheel and deal his way to a Cup? Based on what? The Dickenson and Mikayev trades? Knight had a hot start but his numbers are falling.

        Winning builds culture, identity, and creates a place people want to play. Not sitting around and accepting historically bad results. This is a results business.

        Davidson has never won anything, anywhere.

      • #56334
        TheREALWiz
        Participant

        The Sam Rinzel I saw after he signed was clearly big quick and smart enough to hold down an NHL spot. NEVER should have stayed up? The “core” who had been playing in front of him certainly did not looked better, more poised or played better than him.

        Did the play finally become grueling over the season and the hard knocks soured him? Sure.

        It is laughable watching Arty, as he is feeling like he is a mainstay on the club.

        Bedard and the injury is no disconnect organizationally.

        More likely this wasn’t one incident that injured Bedard.
        We just get what they want released. You want to send the medical images of the injured area to all the other teams too?

        The franchise will protect their star from any chances of him getting re-injured there. A small shutdown rests the kid (even against his wishes) heals soreness, and things takes the appearance that he plays again against pros when healthy, and able to play HIS type game, with no risky business Bedard’s way, the absent break the insurance he mends first,

    • #56331
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Prospect development is not linear — every player follows a different path.

      re Rinzel:
      Nik Hjalmarrson played 13 games in the NHL in his 20 year old season and 21 games in the NHL as a 21 year old.
      He did not stick w/ The Hawks until the season after he turned 22.

      Did they rush Hjalmarrson? Or were they just “trying him out”? He’s a different player than Rinzel, for sure.
      But it’s a valid example that, even with a player who becomes excellent in the NHL, they don’t always know when the player is ready.

      🤘

    • #56332
      LAHawk
      Participant

      Hawks need more offensive production from the D, yet you hear peep about Korchinski. I understand he is left handed, but they brought up del Maestro to sit as the 7th D.

      Hawks had better success playing 11/7 than the traditional 12/6. Why not bring up Korchinski, have him on PP2, as it is Grzelcyk shelf life with the Hawks doesn’t last past the trade deadline anyway.

    • #56336
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      After Grez’ poor last game, i think a long-term draft replacement, fitting down thw road, and there are certainly lots of promise in the first round that are a tick larger than him, and offensive motivated.

      Fine if KK is ready, but has Ethan Del Mastro’s audition over after a few miscues? They seeing growth, there with him? Coaching and responsive evaluation comes with the call-ups, right?

    • #56339
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      M-hd, Absolutely with ya’ on the Hjalmarsson comp.

      Believe it seems like a luxury that Blackhawk team could have a club with three or four guys that they can push out their lips or fingers in an IceHog call-up.
      And that not making the post season isn’t world-ending and Management team isn’t going to worry if the select early (due largely by a Bedard re-injury or longer recovery window), this may be their final good chance to win a lottery, and add that “just one more…” keystone piece in early ’26 first round that advertises more second level ‘flare candidates” in that 1st half of the round.

      It just looks like to me, that the team might see a Hughes-type attacking defenseman from the draft litter of smaller mailmen..

      If the did draft early for what ever reason, I see no problem adding at forward.

      Every defender they developed around now is going to have to grow more to their games. (BIG #72 is the product of the USA defense, and has a start with seeing hard minutes in the USA dev.team, where he was continually pressed into Pk role, the assignment while USA had their checking line on…Vlasic lumbered and then, got smarter, faster, stronger, so I think he is a cut above the rest in understanding the game and playing it at a high leveltwo ways.

      I just don’t think outside moves are out of the question, and cycling through their draft picks at defense, get rotated out, moved on, or replaced with future draft picks at the position.

    • #56396

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>You can spin the Davidson quote all you want but it puts Bedard in a bad light for no reason. Another self inflected wound from the GM.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>As for the Hawks being 2 years away, away from what? The Habs, Ducks, and Caps are 2 years away from being Cup contenders because their young players are going to be hitting their prime and supported by vets. In 2 years the Hawks will still be integrating early 20 year olds who are just going to be learning the league. Who knows what vets will be supporting them?

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>The last thing this franchise needs is stoic stability and letting Davidson figure out who goes and who stays. He did the tear down. There are a few interesting pieces but do you really trust him to wheel and deal his way to a Cup? Based on what? The Dickenson and Mikayev trades? Knight had a hot start but his numbers are falling.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Winning builds culture, identity, and creates a place people want to play. Not sitting around and accepting historically bad results. This is a results business.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Davidson has never won anything, anywhere.

      Jeez SFG, did KD’s mother dump you in high school?

    • #56400
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I just don’t see any decisions regarding this present personel group causes a playoff game playoff win or (gulp) Cup run.

      Nothing that is decided now or in the next months determines that, and I don’t think Kyle gets a pass, but there hasn’t been a biug swing by him towards a NHL addition, but there aint many trades he can make that reshapes the room.

      How Kyle and ownership handle additions via free agency and who determines further re-shaping, to me, again, is a question far down the developmental path, and not worth discussion now.

      How does any merger moves now affect the next first round pick? It doesn’t matter enough to put him on a spike.

    • #56401
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      MEAGER not merger!

    • #56429
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Jeez SFG, did KD’s mother dump you in high school?

      🤣🤣🤣

    • #56437
      Metalhead
      Participant

      I just don’t see any decisions regarding this present personnel group causes a playoff game playoff win or (gulp) Cup run.

      Nothing that is decided now or in the next months determines that, and I don’t think Kyle gets a pass, but there hasn’t been a biug swing by him towards a NHL addition, but there aint many trades he can make that reshapes the room.

      How Kyle and ownership handle additions via free agency and who determines further re-shaping, to me, again, is a question far down the developmental path, and not worth discussion now.

      How does any meager moves now affect the next first round pick? It doesn’t matter enough to put him on a spike.

      These are all sensible takes on the situation, thanks Wiz.

      🤘

    • #56501
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      SFG you really are all about instant gratification.

      They went being in another gm because he would destroy everything KD built then we’d be looking at another 5 to 10 years before we saw the playoffs.

    • #56540
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.

    • #56563
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.

      Merry Christmas to you as well, sir.

    • #56569
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Yeah happy holidays & Christmas to all. Express in your words, the love you want all around you to feel.

      Even with the Blackhawks, find no scapegoats or heels.

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    • #56574
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Yeah happy holidays & Christmas to all. Express in your words, the love you want all around you to feel.

      Even with the Blackhawks, find no scapegoats or heels.

      May the rushes be odd-man, and saves with the stick,
      great health for the New Year, a gift from St. Nick.

      Up on the roof: where the pucks they will enter,
      with amazing progress from every young center.

      And the D-men they shut down, stick check, make great hits,
      for all 60 minutes and nobody quits.

      As the winter moves on, build a new winning team,
      we lay down to sleep with this sweet hopeful dream.

      ❤️

    • #56575
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      What has KD built exactly?
      He’s on his 4th coach.
      There isn’t a sniper equal to DeBrincat
      There isn’t a power forward with the heart of Hagel.
      There isn’t a top defenseman in the system that is going to top out near Jones.
      Ignores franchise opportunities in contract negotiations.
      Gave away Kane.
      Rushed Korchinski and Rinzel.
      Let Demidov slip through his fingers.
      Has fallen in love with his players.
      Supporters are counting 100% on prospects evolving.
      Could take lessons from Grier.
      Should be removed from decision making by New Years.

    • #56614
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Holiday Message

      As we head into the holiday season, I want to take a moment to thank each and every one of you for reading, supporting, and engaging with our work here at Hockey Hot Stove. Your comments, feedback, and passion for the game truly make this community special.

      I wish you and your families a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, filled with good health, happiness, and quality time with loved ones. If you’re traveling, stay safe, enjoy the break, and hopefully catch some great hockey along the way.

      I’m truly grateful for your continued support, and I look forward to bringing you more honest, fan-driven hockey coverage in the year ahead. Thank you for being part of this journey.

    • #56657
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      Merry Christmas all. I am hoping to find a center under my tree!

      • #56658
        LAHawk
        Participant

        Happy Holiday’s to all. Hoping the season doesn’t spiral out of control. In fact, unless KD gets a NHL ready forward back in trade, I would keep the forward UFA’s until the end of the year.

        I think it would be detrimental to trade the above for mid round picks and get to rerun the Rem Pitlick’s, Joey Andrrson’s, Brett Seney’s to close out the year.

        Also Del Maestro, Allen, Korchinski, and Commesso’s ELC’s are up this year. KD will have to decide how his defense and goaltending is going to look like next year. IMO when Grzelcyk goes, and if/when Murphy goes, he will still need to bring in a vet as a 6/7 role to close out the season.

        I know there is a faction that thinks being one of the worst teams in the league again this year is fantastic because of draft position. IMO especially with the way the team started(knowing it was really unsustainable, as Knight was not going to keep a .934 save percentage for the entire season), a bottom 3 finish to me is a failure, as outside of kids getting some NHL time, it proves that they (collectively not necessarily individually) showed they didn’t improve over last year. I hope that doesn’t happen. Have no illusion of them being in the playoffs, but would love to see them out of the bottom 5.

        From recent comments by the GM, he is already preparing to go back to tank mode. Not surprising, IMO that is his DNA.

    • #56659
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Thanks coach i appreciate all the information you keep providing. Good stuff keep it coming.

      Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and yours as well, that goes for everyone else here.

      I’m bummed that Bedard and Nazar are hurt being at the Philly game you can see how that offense is struggling to generate anything.

      The silver lining is we are in line for another top 5 prospect. I’ll just repeat what i said before, watching the Red Sox, Cubs, Oklahoma City Thunder, the Bears to a degree, not many have the stomach for this but this really is the best for the future of the franchise no matter how much the fans hate it.

    • #56660
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      If the way we were winning was unsustainable in the beginning of the season then logic would say we need more talent, 3 ways of getting more talent is FA, trade or draft closer to 1st instead of 31st? At least they are guaranteed one avenue of getting better.

    • #56665
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Thanks a lot — I really appreciate the support and all the comments you bring to the site and the forum. It means a lot and it doesn’t go unnoticed.

      Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and yours. Thanks again for being part of the community and for sticking with us.

      • #56915
        boilermaker
        Participant

        Thanks SfG for the reports from the WJC.

    • #56682
      LAHawk
      Participant

      If the way we were winning was unsustainable in the beginning of the season then logic would say we need more talent, 3 ways of getting more talent is FA, trade or draft closer to 1st instead of 31st? At least they are guaranteed one avenue of getting better.

      Saying tanking is the only way ignored reality. The Hawks didn’t win those Cups because they lost on purpose, they won because they drafted and developed players outside the top of the draft, and had competent management. Tons of teams tanked just as hard and are still irrelevant. Tanking gets you picks, it doesn’t build a dynasty. Development does.

      If tanking worked like people claim, the Hawks wouldn’t be the exception_every bottom feeder would be a contender. High picks
      Didn’t win those Cups, drafting, development, and smart trades did. Losing on purpose isn’t a strategy, it’s an excuse.

      If tanking were the only way, every rebuilding team would eventually contend. The NHL has shown over and over that development and scouting beat draft position

      Tanking is what bad organizations hide behind. The Hawks built a dynasty because they were elite at development, not because they were elite at losing.

      Bedard isn’t a rebuild, he is an opportunity. Tanking got Chicago a player, not a team. Until they show they can draft, develop, and build depth like the old Hawks did, “tanking works” is just a cope.

    • #56703

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>If the way we were winning was unsustainable in the beginning of the season then logic would say we need more talent, 3 ways of getting more talent is FA, trade or draft closer to 1st instead of 31st? At least they are guaranteed one avenue of getting better.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Saying tanking is the only way ignored reality. The Hawks didn’t win those Cups because they lost on purpose, they won because they drafted and developed players outside the top of the draft, and had competent management. Tons of teams tanked just as hard and are still irrelevant. Tanking gets you picks, it doesn’t build a dynasty. Development does.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>If tanking worked like people claim, the Hawks wouldn’t be the exception_every bottom feeder would be a contender. High picks
      Didn’t win those Cups, drafting, development, and smart trades did. Losing on purpose isn’t a strategy, it’s an excuse.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>If tanking were the only way, every rebuilding team would eventually contend. The NHL has shown over and over that development and scouting beat draft position

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Tanking is what bad organizations hide behind. The Hawks built a dynasty because they were elite at development, not because they were elite at losing.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Bedard isn’t a rebuild, he is an opportunity. Tanking got Chicago a player, not a team. Until they show they can draft, develop, and build depth like the old Hawks did, “tanking works” is just a cope.

      We’re still missing the Sharp trade, the lucky Bufglyien draft and the Hossa signing. Ladd was also a trade I believe? Possibly Burakovsky fills one of those roles.

    • #56713
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      It was nice to see Frondell score the first goal in all of the tourney, and follow it up with that quick pass to assist on Sweden’s second goal.

      It is like seeing a much larger Paddie Kane on that right half-board.

    • #56721
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I also love d,at the 12 minute left mark in the 3rd, when Frondell got up on his can,, and then raced up the left wall and returned the favor sending a Slovakian player to the ice with an even harder impetus.

    • #56733
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      If the way we were winning was unsustainable in the beginning of the season then logic would say we need more talent, 3 ways of getting more talent is FA, trade or draft closer to 1st instead of 31st? At least they are guaranteed one avenue of getting better.

      Saying tanking is the only way ignored reality. The Hawks didn’t win those Cups because they lost on purpose, they won because they drafted and developed players outside the top of the draft, and had competent management. Tons of teams tanked just as hard and are still irrelevant. Tanking gets you picks, it doesn’t build a dynasty. Development does.

      If tanking worked like people claim, the Hawks wouldn’t be the exception_every bottom feeder would be a contender. High picks
      Didn’t win those Cups, drafting, development, and smart trades did. Losing on purpose isn’t a strategy, it’s an excuse.

      If tanking were the only way, every rebuilding team would eventually contend. The NHL has shown over and over that development and scouting beat draft position

      Tanking is what bad organizations hide behind. The Hawks built a dynasty because they were elite at development, not because they were elite at losing.

      Bedard isn’t a rebuild, he is an opportunity. Tanking got Chicago a player, not a team. Until they show they can draft, develop, and build depth like the old Hawks did, “tanking works” is just a cope.

      Nope I’m saying if you are willing to commit to a rebuild and accumulate many high end picks and develop them, which they are doing right now, is the best way to do a rebuild.

      To say the 2000s the Blackhawks were good at developing players who you crapping. They were so disorganized, so what you are saying is you can develop Hall of fame players like Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook? Sorry i disagree.

      If we are the worst team in the league next year i will begin to agree about KD, but all along i said this is going to take 4 to 5 years.

      If I’m right all these other teams that you guys love because i guess they are building their teams the right way whatever that means, they will begin to pass talent wise, which will turn into wins.

    • #56734
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      How about Vaclav Nestrasil winning that board battle behind the Canada net and passing it out as the secondary assist on that game leading 3-3 goal?

      • This reply was modified 1 month, 4 weeks ago by TheREALWiz.
    • #56737
      Assman22
      Participant

      How about Vaclav Nestrasil winning that board battle behind the Canada net and passing it out as the secondary assist on that game leading 3-3 goal?

      He won a FO draw in the Ozone in early 2nd period and fired a shot at Carter George that nearly took his head off. At the end of the period, he absolutely crushed Reid in the boards behind Canada’s net. He is a monster!

    • #56739
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Well, that was a golden smooth pass V Nestril that he gift-wrap late in the Czechia attack looks.

    • #56767
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      I’m at WJC with kid. Haven’t seen Sweden yet. Will see them tomorrow. Spellacy looked good. Fast, looked strong. Son thinks 4th line ceiling. Will see. I watched the Czech game from behind Czech goal for 2 periods. It looked to me like Nestrasil was playing center and was decent in his own zone. Son said he will play wing in NHL. We will see. Going to 3 games today. Saw Kris Draper. Got a selfie with Jeff O’Neil.

      • #56768
        LAHawk
        Participant

        Hawks have 10 out of the next 13 at home in a condensed schedule before the Olympic Break. Hopefully the Hawks can right the ship before the break.

    • #56830
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Sorry Steve, but son from Glencoe got Vaclav Nestrasil wrong yesterday as the pivot on his line. #17 Seek-KORE-a Sykora is, and #15, Vojtech Cihar is the LW.

      Nestrasil lines yup as a right handed RIGHT WING at center ice, but shifts (like most flowing forwards do) and sets up reverse to Sweden’s Frondell, as a right-handed left side of the half board shooter.

      He sure scored a nice one tonight, finding that open top corner over the goalies shoulder.

      I was more interested when Gordie was saying he could transfer colleges, or turn pro with the Blackhawks…

    • #56910
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Yesterday Slovakia manhandled Germany in front of a small crowd. Full building for USA over Swiss. Spellacy played ok. Nowhere near Friday. Only a handful of shifts for Ryker Lee. He played harder away from puck but nowhere near as good as he can be. Caught 2nd and 3rd of Czech game. Maybe 1,000 fans. Nestrasil was real good. Looked to me like he was more on wing. Mostly because Czech was on pp most of what I saw and he is on the half wall. Watched USA game next to Colorado scouts. They really like Nestrasil. #12 on Czech is theirs so they have been watching that line closely. Bought tickets online for $9. Blizzard outside. Only 2 games today and silly there is one at each rink kinda close in time instead of 2 at one arena. Looking forward to seeing Frondell and Stenberg. Going to track down Stenberg’s parents and remind them of what Ivar told me in Nashville.

    • #56917
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I’m at WJC with kid. Haven’t seen Sweden yet. Will see them tomorrow. Spellacy looked good. Fast, looked strong. Son thinks 4th line ceiling. Will see. I watched the Czech game from behind Czech goal for 2 periods. It looked to me like Nestrasil was playing center and was decent in his own zone. Son said he will play wing in NHL. We will see. Going to 3 games today. Saw Kris Draper. Got a selfie with Jeff O’Neil.

      Something about seeing hockey players wearing their national jersey’s that elevates everything. Great for the fan… Great news you’re there with your boy, Steve, and thanks for the updates. I’ve followed so little I don’t have any useful questions, but I guess I’d ask for any thoughts on McKenna. And since you get around these functions is there any buzz about any particular player, team or anything else?

    • #56993
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Looked to me that Frondell has a good 1st period. Fast and good puck protection. After that he was very strong on the back check but stood around a bit in the offensive zone. I found Stenberg’s dad and reminded him about Nashville. He told me that he remembered when Ivar said he would be 1st overall this year. He said it surprised him because Ivar was so small now he getting close to 6 feet. Stenberg said he would be happy if Ivar was drafted by Chicago. Said Frondell is better at center than wing. We coincidently sat right behind the Bjorcks. Wilson was scratched but Viggo was in the lineup and is a top 10 prospect. He moved from the 2nd line to the first as the game went on. He scored. Replaced Stenberg on pp1 as the game went on. Wilson said he played with Frondell for years and thinks he’s better at wing. Took everything Sweden had to beat Switzerland. Could have gone either way. We made it to the Finland Lavia game as the first period ended 3-0. Finland had the puck 90% of the next 2 periods. Hard to tell who is good because each line looked great. Latvia #23 Smits is a top 10 prospect. My kid thought he was the best player on the ice. I thought he was running around in his own zone. Got pictures with Stenberg’s dad, Draper and Bob Murray. Going to 3 games tomorrow and 10pm flight back to Chicago.

    • #57089
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Yeah, i have been watching Viggo Bjork for a couple seasons and he is impressive in the dot, or on the wing(s), and plays a solid 200 foot game.
      I started him in my first round in my Mock, but as I started viewing more and of the bigger centres, forwards, defnseman and even the smaller offenseman, I backed him into the 2nd pick in the second round, 33 overall with the forfeited Ottawa pick around 14-16…

      I guess I have always looked at my mocks withe Blackhawks as the main focus, and I am not so sure they are coveting more small forwards, and may be looking for either nasty players at both positions and maybe one who has bith snarl and size.

      I mean unless they pick top 5, I don’t see any reason they cannot prioritize size and fill in the line-up futures with bigger boys.

    • #57090
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Yeah, the first game today is Sweden.

      I love getting the looks at big #16 Frondell.

      He is responsible physical, and a load to deter, and decisiosn on whether he is a pivot or wing will iron out in the future, b/c he generates chances well.

    • #57094
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Yeah, Latvian Alberts Smits is a kid any NHL team could groom as their big defender, despite the fact he plays the left side.

      We can talk about the Blackhawks left defenseman depth, but I think he fills a differnet type need on the backline.

      He is a tough, confindent in his abilities and snarl that he isn’t ever going to back down from playingb to his strengths.

      A lot depends upon when Lil Frankie and Bedsy return to impact the draft standings negatively (with hawk wins, lol…), but I think they will looking at most big guys when they select…

      2026 NHL Mock Draft

      • #57146
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        Day 4 was great. Frondell was dominant. He has the best shot here and the 2nd best on the Hawks. The draftable Bjorck looked real good. He older brother dresses and played hard. Finland Czech was a great game. I thought Nestrasil was standing around a bit in 2nd and 3rd. He is stronger than I thought and has good hockey sense. Made it to USA Slovakia for the 2nd. Spellacyplayed great. Fast and strong. Not afraid. Ryder Lee played really well. Best snipe we saw. Can’t believe the Hawks passed on him 3 times. That could look bad in a few years. Every time I saw someone I liked and asked my son who has them it was either a Capitals 2nd rounder or a Sabre. Lots of interesting prospects here. Sad to head home. This is the best hockey experience I’ve had. Best on best saw 10 games in 4 days.

    • #57096

      I’m calling it a “goalie loss” last night…

    • #57380
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2025/12/30/blackhawks-defensemen-jeff-blashill-alex-vlasic-louis-crevier-nhl-physicality-nastiness

      I agree with this so so so much, hopefully the same message is given to our forwards.

      I know they aren’t producing a ton on the score sheet but in my eyes Greene, Moore, Lardis are playing solid NHL hockey.

    • #57382
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      https://chicago.suntimes.com/blackhawks/2025/12/25/blackhawks-nhl-rebuild-test-case-fan-frustration-canucks

      I’m sure SFG and LA responded to this, hahaha

      Funny he has a line in there for the many

      Humans crave instant gratification from their entertainment, and hockey is entertainment.

    • #57383
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I know fans want a big splash and i think next year they will get at least 2, Frondell and Kantserov.

      With Arty getting more and more comfortable his skating is getting more and more impressive especially his edges.

      The amount of non calls today are going to eventually be called for this young group as they get bigger and stronger and faster, the amount of holding, interference, hooking and slashing the opponent is able to play as if they aren’t penalties is impressive.

    • #57384
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Happy new year

      Folks and be safe out there.

      Cheers!

    • #57396
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Happy new year

      Happy New Year to you Dots, Coach Frenchy, and all the many participants here on this forum.

      For 2026, best wishes for everyone’s good health and welfare. And for the Hawks, a quick and lasting recovery to Bedard and Nazar, and success for our young players as they gain NHL experience.

    • #57416
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      Happy New Year to all our readers! 🎉
      Thank you for the support, the comments, and the great hockey discussions throughout the year.
      More content, more coverage, and more passion coming your way — stay tuned.
      Wishing you and your families a healthy, happy, and successful New Year!

    • #57599
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I really like Moore and Lardis together.

    • #57662
      Assman22
      Participant

      I really like Moore and Lardis together.

      Worked very well together in a short stint in Rockford and glad to see them reunited on the big stage.

    • #57686

      Bedard got screwed by Team Canada but it will make him more pissed off and less likely to get injured.

    • #57736
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      It’s so refreshing to see more than one Blackhawk hopeful playing in the World Under-20s.

      Anton Frondell for the second time is named the player of the game for the victors.

      Believe me I am not about to say that the Swedish team isn’t just that…a well synced group with a strong backline and plenty of forwards who we will see playing in the bigs, but Frondell is a huge puck handler and presence who moves just so effortlessly, you have to feel good about his eventual pro debut. He arrives with the hardest and most powerful shot on the Blackhawk team.

    • #57737
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Sure we might be able to draft Sweden’s Ivar Stenberg or Viggo Bjork,.but you have to wonder if Philly would trade Jack Berglund, or Washington Milton Gastrin…

    • #57745
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I can’t wait to see Frondell play for the Blackhawks Wiz, unlike most here i don’t care if it’s center or wing.

      I’m glad Bedard is not going to the Olympics. I’m probably a rare bird but i frankly don’t care about these exhibition games. Spoiler alert Canada will win again

    • #57759
      vabeachbear
      Participant

      After watching these WJC games, i can tell you last year before the draft, i was wrong.

      Frondell is a stud, Hagens is a lightweight.

      Finns pushed him off the puck all night. You could see the whole game, Finns were just too physical (except for Spellacy of course), it was just a matte of time before they lost.

    • #57887
      Assman22
      Participant

      Spoiler alert Canada will win again

      How do you feel about their trio in the crease? USA pretty solid top to bottom in all 3 phases.

    • #57900
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Spoiler alert Canada will win again

      How do you feel about their trio in the crease? USA pretty solid top to bottom in all 3 phases.

      Canada just has more talent, even if Bedard isn’t there.

    • #57904
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      That’s why I’m excited about the Blackhawks rebuild, it won’t be long before we have more talent from player 1 to player 19 dressing each night for the Blackhawks.

    • #57944
      wizardofi
      Participant

      The US lost to Billington in the 4 nations. Billington. US is gooning it up in an Olympic/IIHF event. They won’t last long. It’ll be another hotel destruction like the 2006 Olympics in Turin.

    • #58039
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Lots of top end shooters in the Hawks’ prospect pool. Lardis may be the best, Kantserov, Frondell, Behm, Nestrasil and not quite in the same league but very very good is Vanacker.

    • #58057
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Seriously

    • #58071

      That’s why I’m excited about the Blackhawks rebuild, it won’t be long before we have more talent from player 1 to player 19 dressing each night for the Blackhawks.

      I don’t expect Dach and Slaggert to be part of the team two years from now.

    • #58081
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I don’t expect Dach and Slaggert to be part of the team two years from now.[/quote]

      Definitely Foligno, Dickinson or Lafferty won’t be here next year.

      I can see Dach having a place on this team even as a 13th forward, agree about Slaggert, one thing is for sure it’s going to get really interesting on this team really quick.

    • #58146

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I don’t expect Dach and Slaggert to be part of the team two years from now.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Definitely Foligno, Dickinson or Lafferty won’t be here next year.

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I can see Dach having a place on this team even as a 13th forward, agree about Slaggert, one thing is for sure it’s going to get really interesting on this team really quick.[/quote]
      Slaggert just appears to be a tweener AHL/NHL. I’ve been a fan of his since his first game when he put an opponent picking on our guys in a headlock during a scrum.

    • #58188
      Earl Camembert
      Participant

      Lots of top end shooters in the Hawks’ prospect pool. Lardis may be the best, Kantserov, Frondell, Behm, Nestrasil and not quite in the same league but very very good is Vanacker.

      I know your talking prospects but that kid Bedard has a pretty good shot too.

      • #58196
        Dionysus
        Participant

        As good as Debrincat’s?

      • #58202
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Oh God no! (sorry don’t know how to do red font over here)

      • #58560
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>As good as Debrincat’s?

        I know this is heresy but I think Bedard’s shot makes Dinky’s shot look like a junior player.

        Gasp!😱

      • #58714
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I haven’t been around as I was busy moving, but I wanted to say things are looking good. On pace for an 82 point season. Heck of a strong improvement for a young team. We need only 9 points to match the 52 point season two years ago and only 18 more to match last year. Been saying it since the end of last season, we likely get about 75 to 80 points and get out of the bottom 3 to 5 teams. Last season the offensive production improved, this year better D and goaltending. Soon it will be about building around the core by filling holes and maximizing depth to be a real contender.

        According to Steve from Glencoe nothing is going right.

        I stopped by to see how much he might be wailing about a nothing trade like the one that went down today and how KFC is the Prince of Darkness and has never done anything right in his miserable existence.

        This team winning games under KFC’s watch is to Steve like garlic, sunlight and crosses are for vampires.

      • #58733
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Grier playing chess, Kyle playing checkers. Allan didn’t need to be moved yet. It’s still early January for cripes sake. Could’ve just been Ellis for Brossoit without bending over and showing the undercarriage. C’est la vie

        Allan’s not waiver exempt after this season and I believe Furlow is.

      • #58832
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        The pro-Davidson crowd cheers every move he makes. The take on the latest move is that the Hawks have to clear roster spots for all their prospects. If this is the motivation, I guess there is no point in hoping for Free Agents in the summer or trades of prospect/picks for players that can help now. I wonder what the improvement here would have been if Davidson had signed Orlov, Dvorak, and Jenault in the offseason to augment the current roster. I thought that would have been a reasonable move that would have bought time for the prospect to patiently develop in the AHL while winning more at the NHL level. The teams that signed them are rebuilding and are ahead of the Hawks in the standings at the same time. Grier in particular is likely to be the GM of the year if they eek into the playoffs. The returns for 2 former first rounders is underwhelming. Hard to believe the return could have been less. One of the results of going to the WJC in Minnesota is seeing how many good prospects the other teams have in the pipeline while their NHL rosters are currently ahead of the Hawks. Washington, Montreal, and San Jose have some studs on the way amongst others. I am not sure what Allan will ultimately become but in his defense I believe he has played under 5 NHL head coaches and at least 4 AHL head coaches since he was drafted.

        You’re not sure what Allan’s ceiling is yet this is a horrible trade. I said it yesterday, that this is pretty much a nothing trade and figured you’d be here bemoaning the deal in your typical sad sack way. Allen and Reichel were first round picks. So what? What did you think you were going to get for either? This oughta be good.

        Also, you were posting a few days back how high you were on the prospects of Frondell and Nestrasil but now other team’s shiny new toys are better. Okay.

      • #58840
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Thanks for the back and forth. Clearly you are in the Davidson can do no wrong crowd. It’s adorable how beloved he is. I said the returns are underwhelming. Are you overwhelmed? I prefer when GM’s fluff up their prospects before trading them like Columbus just did instead of burying them and selling them cheap. I will double down on my sad sack attitude: One of the NHL goalies will probably get hurt in the next couple of games and people will wish there was capable NHL backup in the system to keep the playoff dream alive. Ooops Hawks traded one to meet the salary floor. I think the Hawks have interesting prospects and other teams do as well. Hard to tell who is going to be better till they start playing with and against men. It is unclear how any of them develop. Rinzel was hyped as coming in on the top D pair. He was rushed. Frondell, Nestrasil, Spellacy, and Kansterov are all going to be projected as top 6 forwards for next season and all of them would benefit from a year in Rockford or stay where they are.

        First of all yawn…your act is tiresome. Also, where did I shower KFC with love over the deal and say he couldn’t do any wrong? It’s a nothing deal…move along, next to nothing to see here.

        In typical fashion, you didn’t answer my question. I asked what you expected in return for either Reichel or Allan and instead you deflect by claiming I’m in the KFC can do no wrong camp. Unlike you I’m allowing time to see what comes of whatever he does.

        I saw where you were pining for Seth Jones without acknowledging KFC got out from under a bad deal and somehow got the Panthers to send the Hawks Spencer Knight. You’re the same type of poster I watched over at HB cry and scream about how weak and soft the Hawks were in the wake of the 2010 Cup while all they did was go on and win two more.

      • #58935
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        It’s not an act. I have my opinions and you have yours.
        By declaring that trading away 2 recent 1st round picks is nothing suggests you are not aware of how valuable a 1st round pick is.
        Is it too much to expect a return in line with Danton Heinen and draft picks (a 2026 2nd and 2027 3rd rounder) for the 2 former 1st rounders combined?

        His teams have finished 31 or 32 every year he’s been GM. How many years more years of the bottom are you going to allow to see what comes? Answer that question with a specific year in which the team makes a long playoff run.
        Seth Jones won the Cup, made the Olympic team, and was having a solid season until he got hurt. Knight’s start was amazing, he’s come back to earth since. The Hawks are still paying $2.5 of Jones. I am going to allow time to see what comes of whatever this trade turns out to be before declaring KD the new Sam Pollock.
        I too remember people writing about toughness back on HB in those times. I thought those teams were tough enough and the poster was wrong. No toughness no Cup went overboard. Can’t remember a single post you have ever written until today but I am going to take a guess: You are probably one of those posters still whining about the Danault trade and how horrible a job Bowman did. You probably think that Tallon deserves all the credit for his drafting of Duncan Keith. Even though Keith was drafted by Smith.

        That’s insane Steve and yes you weren’t getting that back. It’s why I call it an act because your expectations aren’t based in any sort of reality.

        Here…let me help you out a little and explain how this works. First round picks are valuable when a) They haven’t been yet made or b) when said first rounder lives up to their draft status. Also combining two former first round draft picks who don’t appear to be more than fringe NHL’ers doesn’t necessarily get you what you’re looking for and it certainly wasn’t getting you a somewhat useful player and a 2nd and 3rd rounder. You’re higher than the ISS if you think that’s a realistic return for Reichel and Allan based solely on the fact they were former first rounders. Just ludicrous.

        I’m not declaring KFC anything but that was one of those trades that’s a win/win. Knight is still playing great hockey. One bad game represents his coming back to earth numbers but I know that doesn’t fit your narrative.

        Also, I’m not that guy, so as usual you’re wrong. I was never the guy crying about trades Stanbo made or the guy that thought that those Cup teams were ALL the handiwork of Dale Tallon.

        To my original point, in the world of spilled milk, this trade wouldn’t fill a thimble…and yet here we are.

      • #58941
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.

        That’s insane Steve and yes you weren’t getting that back. It’s why I call it an act because your expectations aren’t based in any sort of reality.

        Here…let me help you out a little and explain how this works. First round picks are valuable when a) They haven’t been yet made or b) when said first rounder lives up to their draft status. Also combining two former first round draft picks who don’t appear to be more than fringe NHL’ers doesn’t necessarily get you what you’re looking for and it certainly wasn’t getting you a somewhat useful player and a 2nd and 3rd rounder. You’re higher than the ISS if you think that’s a realistic return for Reichel and Allan based solely on the fact they were former first rounders. Just ludicrous.

        I’m not declaring KFC anything but that was one of those trades that’s a win/win. Knight is still playing great hockey. One bad game represents his coming back to earth numbers but I know that doesn’t fit your narrative.

        Also, I’m not that guy, so as usual you’re wrong. I was never the guy crying about trades Stanbo made or the guy that thought that those Cup teams were ALL the handiwork of Dale Tallon.

        To my original point, in the world of spilled milk, this trade wouldn’t fill a thimble…and yet here we are.

        Chinakov has 79 points in 208 games. Reichel has 59 points in 188 games. You think it is insane and ludicrous to get Chinakov’s return for Reichel and Allan?

        A thousand times yes! It’s unrealistic and it’s apples and oranges. You’re looking at stats and not what was happening on the ice. Look at what Reichel is doing in VAN and the Hawks may have been lucky to get a 4th.

        Did Chinakov look as lost to you as Reichel has over the past few seasons. He looked salvageable. Reichel not so much.

        Take Reichel’s first season out of the equation where he looked like he could be something and then look at the next three where the guy couldn’t carve out ice time for himself on a team crying for any sort of talent and skill. You think you’re getting back a useful player and 2nd and 3rd round picks for that and a depth dman who had fallen further down the prospect charts?

        If so…I gotta bridge to sell ya.

      • #58952
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.

        Who you crapping Steve, if they had a worse record this season compared to last it would be your main argument.

        I now understand when someone applies logic, deflect, deflect, deflect

        Why meet logic with logic when you can dodge, duck, dip, dive…dodge. Still pretty sure Steve’s a Blue’s fan troll.

      • #59254
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Man what a great game by the Bears tonight. That 4th down play was unbelievable to Rome.

        Amazing! Bring on whoever!

    • #58201
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Definitely Foligno, Dickinson or Lafferty won’t be here next year.

      I can see Kantserov and Frondell on the team next year replacing 2 of Foligno, Angie and Lafferty. IMO that 3rd spot will be given to an overpaid veteran forward, maybe on a 2 year deal, to eat up some cap space. Can’t ice a team with 8 to 10 guys on ELC’s for both cap floor requirements and the need for some veterans.

      Vanacker, Spellacy, maybe Boisvert at the Rock next year. Behm committed to Arizona State next season. Nestrasil likely still in college next season. Also next year, West plays at Michigan State, probably for 2 years.

    • #58218
      Assman22
      Participant

      Sweden/Czech off to hot start. Nestrasil just had a really terrible defensive play to gift Sweden’s first goal.
      Frondell is such a joy to watch play. So smart and confident. Smashed 6’6 Mrkta earlier in the 1st. His positioning and vision are next level as are his shot and passing.

    • #58219
      Assman22
      Participant

      Definitely Foligno, Dickinson or Lafferty won’t be here next year.

      I can see Kantserov and Frondell on the team next year replacing 2 of Foligno, Angie and Lafferty. IMO that 3rd spot will be given to an overpaid veteran forward, maybe on a 2 year deal, to eat up some cap space. Can’t ice a team with 8 to 10 guys on ELC’s for both cap floor requirements and the need for some veterans.

      Vanacker, Spellacy, maybe Boisvert at the Rock next year. Behm committed to Arizona State next season. Nestrasil likely still in college next season. Also next year, West plays at Michigan State, probably for 2 years.

      I like Frondell as wing more than center but seem to only catch games when he’s playing wing mostly if not exclusively. If Frondell sticks in NHL at center, do Hawks move Nazar to 3C? Honestly think he’d be an incredible 3C on a contender.

    • #58238
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Definitely Foligno, Dickinson or Lafferty won’t be here next year.

      I can see Kantserov and Frondell on the team next year replacing 2 of Foligno, Angie and Lafferty. IMO that 3rd spot will be given to an overpaid veteran forward, maybe on a 2 year deal, to eat up some cap space. Can’t ice a team with 8 to 10 guys on ELC’s for both cap floor requirements and the need for some veterans.

      Vanacker, Spellacy, maybe Boisvert at the Rock next year. Behm committed to Arizona State next season. Nestrasil likely still in college next season. Also next year, West plays at Michigan State, probably for 2 years.

      I agree but i think Bedard will get around $12aav, Mikhelev 2x between 5 and 6aav, Murphy 2x5aav and if they do decide to bring Foligno back for 1 more year at $4 that gets them to the floor next year

    • #58240
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I can’t wait for Kantserov and Frondell to come to North America, i just want them on the ice plenty of time to figure out what position to play.

    • #58306

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I can’t wait for Kantserov and Frondell to come to North America, i just want them on the ice plenty of time to figure out what position to play.

      Frondell/Nestrisil = Bergeron/Lucic

    • #58510

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>As good as Debrincat’s?

      I know this is heresy but I think Bedard’s shot makes Dinky’s shot look like a junior player.

    • #58618
      Assman22
      Participant

      Definitely heresy

    • #58622
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      No Bedard, no Nazar, and they have won 4 in a row.

      7 1st round picks developing
      Kantserov dominating the KHL 2nd round pick.

      To have guys contribute like Greene a 2nd round pick, Lardis 3rd round pick

      This is fricking awesome, i can’t believe we are 3 less wins away from a playoff spot.

    • #58644
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Another cool stat i heard last night, Blackhawks rookies this season have scored a total of 68 points to lead the league.

    • #58652
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I haven’t been around as I was busy moving, but I wanted to say things are looking good. On pace for an 82 point season. Heck of a strong improvement for a young team. We need only 9 points to match the 52 point season two years ago and only 18 more to match last year. Been saying it since the end of last season, we likely get about 75 to 80 points and get out of the bottom 3 to 5 teams. Last season the offensive production improved, this year better D and goaltending. Soon it will be about building around the core by filling holes and maximizing depth to be a real contender.

    • #58692

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I haven’t been around as I was busy moving, but I wanted to say things are looking good. On pace for an 82 point season. Heck of a strong improvement for a young team. We need only 9 points to match the 52 point season two years ago and only 18 more to match last year. Been saying it since the end of last season, we likely get about 75 to 80 points and get out of the bottom 3 to 5 teams. Last season the offensive production improved, this year better D and goaltending. Soon it will be about building around the core by filling holes and maximizing depth to be a real contender.

      According to Steve from Glencoe nothing is going right.

    • #58726
      Dionysus
      Participant

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>I haven’t been around as I was busy moving, but I wanted to say things are looking good. On pace for an 82 point season. Heck of a strong improvement for a young team. We need only 9 points to match the 52 point season two years ago and only 18 more to match last year. Been saying it since the end of last season, we likely get about 75 to 80 points and get out of the bottom 3 to 5 teams. Last season the offensive production improved, this year better D and goaltending. Soon it will be about building around the core by filling holes and maximizing depth to be a real contender.

      According to Steve from Glencoe nothing is going right.

      Absolutely nothing is going right! Bedard is a second rate undersized Center who would be a third line forward on a good team. Other than that what do they have? And today they trade Nolan Allan who would have been the second best defender of all the young guys. Add to that a coach with zero qualifications and a GM who’s in wayyyyyy over his head.

    • #58727
      Assman22
      Participant

      Grier playing chess, Kyle playing checkers. Allan didn’t need to be moved yet. It’s still early January for cripes sake. Could’ve just been Ellis for Brossoit without bending over and showing the undercarriage. C’est la vie

    • #58732
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Grier playing chess, Kyle playing checkers. Allan didn’t need to be moved yet. It’s still early January for cripes sake. Could’ve just been Ellis for Brossoit without bending over and showing the undercarriage. C’est la vie

      Do you think Kyle can even play checkers?

      • #58889
        Assman22
        Participant

        Spellacy won’t sniff top 6 anytime soon, if ever. He’s 4th liner on a contender that could slide up to 3rd if/when needed.

    • #58742
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Grier playing chess, Kyle playing checkers. Allan didn’t need to be moved yet. It’s still early January for cripes sake. Could’ve just been Ellis for Brossoit without bending over and showing the undercarriage. C’est la vie

      Allan’s not waiver exempt after this season and I believe Furlow is.

      Both of them blow, Kyle doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. Name one good prospect he’s drafted.

    • #58803
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Surprised Allan was traded away today, but now he’s given a chance with another org, wonder if Taige Harding passed him up.

    • #58823
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      The pass Moore made to Lardis reminded me of Kane to DeBrincat

    • #58830
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      The pro-Davidson crowd cheers every move he makes. The take on the latest move is that the Hawks have to clear roster spots for all their prospects. If this is the motivation, I guess there is no point in hoping for Free Agents in the summer or trades of prospect/picks for players that can help now. I wonder what the improvement here would have been if Davidson had signed Orlov, Dvorak, and Jenault in the offseason to augment the current roster. I thought that would have been a reasonable move that would have bought time for the prospect to patiently develop in the AHL while winning more at the NHL level. The teams that signed them are rebuilding and are ahead of the Hawks in the standings at the same time. Grier in particular is likely to be the GM of the year if they eek into the playoffs. The returns for 2 former first rounders is underwhelming. Hard to believe the return could have been less. One of the results of going to the WJC in Minnesota is seeing how many good prospects the other teams have in the pipeline while their NHL rosters are currently ahead of the Hawks. Washington, Montreal, and San Jose have some studs on the way amongst others. I am not sure what Allan will ultimately become but in his defense I believe he has played under 5 NHL head coaches and at least 4 AHL head coaches since he was drafted.

    • #58834
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Thanks for the back and forth. Clearly you are in the Davidson can do no wrong crowd. It’s adorable how beloved he is. I said the returns are underwhelming. Are you overwhelmed? I prefer when GM’s fluff up their prospects before trading them like Columbus just did instead of burying them and selling them cheap. I will double down on my sad sack attitude: One of the NHL goalies will probably get hurt in the next couple of games and people will wish there was capable NHL backup in the system to keep the playoff dream alive. Ooops Hawks traded one to meet the salary floor. I think the Hawks have interesting prospects and other teams do as well. Hard to tell who is going to be better till they start playing with and against men. It is unclear how any of them develop. Rinzel was hyped as coming in on the top D pair. He was rushed. Frondell, Nestrasil, Spellacy, and Kansterov are all going to be projected as top 6 forwards for next season and all of them would benefit from a year in Rockford or stay where they are.

    • #58845
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      The pro-Davidson crowd cheers every move he makes. The take on the latest move is that the Hawks have to clear roster spots for all their prospects. If this is the motivation, I guess there is no point in hoping for Free Agents in the summer or trades of prospect/picks for players that can help now. I wonder what the improvement here would have been if Davidson had signed Orlov, Dvorak, and Jenault in the offseason to augment the current roster. I thought that would have been a reasonable move that would have bought time for the prospect to patiently develop in the AHL while winning more at the NHL level. The teams that signed them are rebuilding and are ahead of the Hawks in the standings at the same time. Grier in particular is likely to be the GM of the year if they eek into the playoffs. The returns for 2 former first rounders is underwhelming. Hard to believe the return could have been less. One of the results of going to the WJC in Minnesota is seeing how many good prospects the other teams have in the pipeline while their NHL rosters are currently ahead of the Hawks. Washington, Montreal, and San Jose have some studs on the way amongst others. I am not sure what Allan will ultimately become but in his defense I believe he has played under 5 NHL head coaches and at least 4 AHL head coaches since he was drafted.

      Actually the Blackhawks KFC started their rebuild after SJ, Habs Ducks and if you take a deeper look at all those teams what are they missing that the Blackhawks aren’t, a stable of legitimate young defenseman.

      Habs had to go the route of trading 2 first round futures to secure a good defenseman.

      SJ only has a 2 to 3 promising young Dmen.

      Ducks same position

      How can SJ be ahead when their best dmen are 33,34 and 34 years old? Knights looking better than Askerov

      Actually the Blackhawks have the best young goalie of the bunch

      Everyone including you says you can’t build through the draft and I’ve always said no NHL has really given it a 100% chance until now.

      If you want instant gratification go buy something. And the best part is we have 7 first round picks developing while those other teams that are ahead of us only have 3, so no depth for those teams. 2 more next year.

    • #58846
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      It’s not an act. I have my opinions and you have yours.
      By declaring that trading away 2 recent 1st round picks is nothing suggests you are not aware of how valuable a 1st round pick is.
      Is it too much to expect a return in line with Danton Heinen and draft picks (a 2026 2nd and 2027 3rd rounder) for the 2 former 1st rounders combined?
      His teams have finished 31 or 32 every year he’s been GM. How many years more years of the bottom are you going to allow to see what comes? Answer that question with a specific year in which the team makes a long playoff run.
      Seth Jones won the Cup, made the Olympic team, and was having a solid season until he got hurt. Knight’s start was amazing, he’s come back to earth since. The Hawks are still paying $2.5 of Jones. I am going to allow time to see what comes of whatever this trade turns out to be before declaring KD the new Sam Pollock.
      I too remember people writing about toughness back on HB in those times. I thought those teams were tough enough and the poster was wrong. No toughness no Cup went overboard. Can’t remember a single post you have ever written until today but I am going to take a guess: You are probably one of those posters still whining about the Danault trade and how horrible a job Bowman did. You probably think that Tallon deserves all the credit for his drafting of Duncan Keith. Even though Keith was drafted by Smith.

    • #58848
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      You know SFG i don’t cheer about the moves he makes, what i do appreciate is they make sense, this is the first time the franchise has ever had a plan in place and stuck to it.

      Like your example in the 2000s there was no plan it was blind dumb luck they built a SC team with so many moving parts in the front office.

      I’m the opposite of you i want young potential over old crusty vets who have hit their ceiling.

    • #58873
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Oh and by the way it took 60 games to get to 43 points last season.

      They are 17 games ahead of schedule.

      They need 9 wins to match last year’s point total in 39 games.

      I’d say that’s pretty good progress, and the crazy thing is, which i don’t expect, if they make a playoff run they have 2 rookies that may be joining us at the end of the season. 2 more in the Rock,
      That’s a great spot to be in after KD traded players to get 3 first round picks in 2022.

      • #58939
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.

      • #58940
        Steve from Glencoe
        Participant

        Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.

        That’s insane Steve and yes you weren’t getting that back. It’s why I call it an act because your expectations aren’t based in any sort of reality.

        Here…let me help you out a little and explain how this works. First round picks are valuable when a) They haven’t been yet made or b) when said first rounder lives up to their draft status. Also combining two former first round draft picks who don’t appear to be more than fringe NHL’ers doesn’t necessarily get you what you’re looking for and it certainly wasn’t getting you a somewhat useful player and a 2nd and 3rd rounder. You’re higher than the ISS if you think that’s a realistic return for Reichel and Allan based solely on the fact they were former first rounders. Just ludicrous.

        I’m not declaring KFC anything but that was one of those trades that’s a win/win. Knight is still playing great hockey. One bad game represents his coming back to earth numbers but I know that doesn’t fit your narrative.

        Also, I’m not that guy, so as usual you’re wrong. I was never the guy crying about trades Stanbo made or the guy that thought that those Cup teams were ALL the handiwork of Dale Tallon.

        To my original point, in the world of spilled milk, this trade wouldn’t fill a thimble…and yet here we are.

        Chinakov has 79 points in 208 games. Reichel has 59 points in 188 games. You think it is insane and ludicrous to get Chinakov’s return for Reichel and Allan?

    • #58882
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Thanks for the back and forth. Clearly you are in the Davidson can do no wrong crowd. It’s adorable how beloved he is. I said the returns are underwhelming. Are you overwhelmed? I prefer when GM’s fluff up their prospects before trading them like Columbus just did instead of burying them and selling them cheap. I will double down on my sad sack attitude: One of the NHL goalies will probably get hurt in the next couple of games and people will wish there was capable NHL backup in the system to keep the playoff dream alive. Ooops Hawks traded one to meet the salary floor. I think the Hawks have interesting prospects and other teams do as well. Hard to tell who is going to be better till they start playing with and against men. It is unclear how any of them develop. Rinzel was hyped as coming in on the top D pair. He was rushed. Frondell, Nestrasil, Spellacy, and Kansterov are all going to be projected as top 6 forwards for next season and all of them would benefit from a year in Rockford or stay where they are.

      Finally, someone who hates Davidson like I do. Clearly he’s in over his head. What has he done? He traded Hagel, Debrincat and Kirby Dach and what has he drafted? An overrated China doll center, another China doll center both of who are currently injured, surprise, surprise. What other draft picks are any good? How about the cop trading away a top defenseman for a backup goalie. And over paying a below average defenceman and the previously mentioned China doll center who’s overrated. And of course there’s the unproven coach.

    • #58893
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Spellacy won’t sniff top 6 anytime soon, if ever. He’s 4th liner on a contender that could slide up to 3rd if/when needed.

      Another bad draft pick. Wirtz has to can Davidson before he does further damage to the team.

    • #58894

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Surprised Allan was traded away today, but now he’s given a chance with another org, wonder if Taige Harding passed him up.

      With the emergence of Big Louie and he was probably behind EDM Allan’s time was up. With the amount of draft choices we have, it’s inevitable this will happen to some of them. Not much leverage on our side.

    • #58895
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Spellacy won’t sniff top 6 anytime soon, if ever.

      That’s likely true.

      Spellacy said he patterns his game after Tom Wilson.
      Sam Bennett is another good comparison for him.
      Obviously they were both drafted much higher than Spellacy.
      The similarities are in how the first 2 earned their NHL paychecks.
      They played a harsh physical game, both regularly crossing over into dirty hits and multiple suspensions.
      Spellacy seems to already realize a similar style is his ticket to the NHL.
      Hopefully he can do it without being as dirty as those two, only time will tell.

      🤘

    • #58896
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Spellacy is an energy guy with speed and hopefully enough skill. If he develops more than that big win for the Blackhawks, but if he’s a 25 top 35 point forward who is one of 3 forwards who tilt the ice in our favor on a regular basis it’s a great draft pick.

    • #58897
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Looks like Bedard is playing tonight

    • #58931
      Assman22
      Participant

      Spellacy is an energy guy with speed and hopefully enough skill. If he develops more than that big win for the Blackhawks, but if he’s a 25 top 35 point forward who is one of 3 forwards who tilt the ice in our favor on a regular basis it’s a great draft pick.

      Agreed and with his skill level, I could see him being more Ben Eager than Wilson/Benny.

    • #58947
      Metalhead
      Participant

      Weighing in on Reichel/Chinakhov (though I’ll probably regret it 🤣)

      Lucas Reichel has recently proven to be nearly worthless in trade value.
      The Hawks traded him for a 4th round pick.
      He played 14 games for VAN, with 1 assist and no goals.
      Vancouver, besides having the 2nd worst pts % in the league, is a struggling franchise lately.
      Even so, they did not value him enough to keep him on the roster.
      They put him through waivers, and all 31 other teams, who could have had him for free declined to take him.

      As for their point totals:
      In their most recent 82 NHL games:
      Reichel has 27 points, or 0.33ppg. (27 pts per full season)
      Chinakhov has 44 points, or 0.54ppg. (44 pts per full season)
      In their most recent 41 games (1/2 season):
      Reichel has 14 points, or 0.34ppg. (28 pts per full season)
      Chinakhov has 26 points, or 0.63ppg. (52 pts per full season)

      Though by no means comprehensive, it gives solid evidence that
      a) Chinakhov is improving as he gains experience
      b) Reichel is not improving, and might just be a ~28 point per season player in the NHL

      Moving beyond point totals:
      Chinakhov is over 50% in Corsi-for while Reichel is at 41%
      even though:
      Chinakhov gets only ~45% O-zone starts while Reichel has had over 57% O-zone starts in his career

      Both players have elite speed, nearly identical rank in top speed bursts.
      Chinakhov has a top ranked slapshot for a forward, as high as 98mph.

      Obviously this can keep going way down into the weeds, but the fact that every single NHL team
      could have had Reichel for free and declined, suggests that Reichel has zero trade value on his own.

    • #58951
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Comparing to last season sounds like when my wife tells me that she saved money by buying something for 40% off.

      Who you crapping Steve, if they had a worse record this season compared to last it would be your main argument.

      I now understand when someone applies logic, deflect, deflect, deflect

    • #59091
      Steve from Glencoe
      Participant

      Earl, if the Hawks miss the playoffs by a couple of points. Remember that NHL playoff contenders keep a veteran goalie around for emergencies. KD traded his insurance policy to meet the cap floor a couple of days before he needed him.

      • #59179
        Earl Camembert
        Participant

        Great point Steve. I’m sure this will be the trade that comes back to haunt the Hawks this year and for many years to come. I know you’re playing the long game on the Jones for Knight trade unlike most of us who have declared it an emphatic win…but is there a trade you approve of from KFC or any other Hawk GM?

    • #59103
      Dionysus
      Participant

      Earl, if the Hawks miss the playoffs by a couple of points. Remember that NHL playoff contenders keep a veteran goalie around for emergencies. KD traded his insurance policy to meet the cap floor a couple of days before he needed him.

      Davidson is wayyyy out of his league.

    • #59105
      CoachFrenchy
      Participant

      I really love the passion each of you brings to this forum about the game we all care about — hockey. Different opinions, agreements, and disagreements about management, coaches, and players are all part of what makes this community interesting and alive.

      The most important thing, however, is respect for one another. Healthy debate is a good thing, and having many voices and viewpoints keeps the forum active and engaging.

      I read all of your posts, but as a writer, I usually choose not to reply so I can stay focused on writing articles almost every day. That said, your discussions matter, and they help shape the conversation around the team.

      If you have any feedback or suggestions, feel free to share them. I’m always open to hearing your thoughts.

      Thanks for keeping the discussions going and the passion strong.

    • #59196
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Man what a great game by Commesso. Congrats to the kid first win a shut out.

      I still don’t like the Blackhawks lapse of defense inside the right face off dot, fortunately they got away with it tonight

      These kids are electric, they gotta remember to play through the opponent not around.

    • #59220
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Man what a great game by the Bears tonight. That 4th down play was unbelievable to Rome.

    • #59262
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Maybe the Blackhawks will bring over Dougie Hamilton?

      I’d make NJ pay us to take him, then they can buy him out.

      What a mess that franchise has become.

    • #59420

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Earl, if the Hawks miss the playoffs by a couple of points. Remember that NHL playoff contenders keep a veteran goalie around for emergencies. KD traded his insurance policy to meet the cap floor a couple of days before he needed him.

      Talk about obscure complaints. You’re digging deep SFG. You can rationalize anything to fit your narrative.

    • #59553
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I thought the Blackhawks went into the game with a good game plan, and were able to match up well against their top line variations of their top twosome, use their team speed to play well defensively. There were hopes of a Lardis coming out party ,while Ollie blabs mike-up, we saw some top relentless action from Slaggert,Kaiser, and more superb Knightly armor, but the mediocre part of this line-up is having a mid line-up that are all short a tool that aids the team’s attack. The slack at lighting the light does show there again weren’t enough finishers, to the point where Nickie Lardis is your main gun?
      I doubt some surprise veteran sniper is on the market, or how interested anyone in-house is for that type of solution this season, but, after you watch a match where the team’s roster weaknesses are exposed, I think they may have to have start pre-selling the notion that they planned for later public releases, like
      1) Connor Bedard’s addition to the Olympics, with the Wilson knee-ankle injury?

      2) Foligno will be officially added to the coaching staff.

      3) Which of the players with ending contracts MAY be interested in a trade deal where they play for the Silver Cup?

      4) That Arty is working up confidence about his shot.

      5) Using Vlasic and Crevier and the Oiler’s #1 line will continue.

    • #59598
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Arty with a shift last night of over 5 minutes, hahaha and he was still faster than Murphy.

    • #59599
      boilermaker
      Participant

      1) Connor Bedard’s addition to the Olympics, with the Wilson knee-ankle injury?

      Brayden Point injured last night, too. Another possible opening for an injury replacement on the Canadian squad.

      1) Which of the players with ending contracts MAY be interested in a trade deal where they play for the Silver Cup?

      Frank Seravalli on the CHSN studio show last night said the Hawks are getting calls on Murphy and Dickinson.

    • #59605
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      I thought the Blackhawks went into the Edmonton game with a good game plan, and were able to match up well against their top line variations of their top twosome, use their team speed to play well defensively. There were hopes of a Lardis coming out party ,while Ollie blabs mike-up, we saw some top relentless action from Slaggert,Kaiser, and more superb Knightly armor, but the mediocre part of this line-up is having a mid line-up that are all short a tool that aids the team’s attack. The slack at lighting the light does show there again weren’t enough finishers, to the point where Nickie Lardis is your main gun?
      I doubt some surprise veteran sniper is on the market, or how interested anyone in-house is for that type of solution this season, but, after you watch a match where the team’s roster weaknesses are exposed, I think they may have to have start pre-selling the notion that they planned for later public releases, like
      1) Connor Bedard’s addition to the Olympics, with the Wilson knee-ankle injury?

      2) Foligno will be officially added to the coaching staff.

      3) Which of the players with ending contracts MAY be interested in a trade deal where they play for the Silver Cup?

      4) That Arty is working up confidence about his shot.

      5) Using Vlasic and Crevier and the Oiler’s #1 line will continue.

    • #59806

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Arty with a shift last night of over 5 minutes, hahaha and he was still faster than Murphy.

      As long as we have Mikal Roszival to compare to Murphy’s speed records are safe.

    • #59850
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Rozy had excellent hockey sense with soft hands, excellent

    • #59895
      Assman22
      Participant

      I thought the Blackhawks went into the Edmonton game with a good game plan, and were able to match up well against their top line variations of their top twosome, use their team speed to play well defensively. There were hopes of a Lardis coming out party ,while Ollie blabs mike-up, we saw some top relentless action from Slaggert,Kaiser, and more superb Knightly armor, but the mediocre part of this line-up is having a mid line-up that are all short a tool that aids the team’s attack. The slack at lighting the light does show there again weren’t enough finishers, to the point where Nickie Lardis is your main gun?
      I doubt some surprise veteran sniper is on the market, or how interested anyone in-house is for that type of solution this season, but, after you watch a match where the team’s roster weaknesses are exposed, I think they may have to have start pre-selling the notion that they planned for later public releases, like
      1) Connor Bedard’s addition to the Olympics, with the Wilson knee-ankle injury?

      2) Foligno will be officially added to the coaching staff.

      3) Which of the players with ending contracts MAY be interested in a trade deal where they play for the Silver Cup?

      4) That Arty is working up confidence about his shot.

      5) Using Vlasic and Crevier and the Oiler’s #1 line will continue.

      Korchinski and a 2nd rounder for Michkov?

    • #59896
      Assman22
      Participant

      Rozy had excellent hockey sense with soft hands, excellent

      3-wheeled shopping cart Rozy?!

    • #60216
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      What a crap game. They looked completely dysfunctional. They had better wake up, or they will find themselves at the bottom of the ocean, and I am sure Bedard won’t be happy. Calgary’s goalie stood on his head a few times but faced very little pressure for most of the game. I bet Blashill didn’t light a cigar after the game. He might have eaten one.

    • #60568
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      IF Charlie Coyle and Boone Jenner are available for picks, I say the Hawks should buy into eiither as both can add some crunch to the lines, and round out where they can upgrade subtractions.

      This 2026 draft may lack a load of marquee names ready for prime time, but the class has an abundance of players who are on the upturn in their development.

      There will be teams jockeying to get in the mid first and the second, even the third.

    • #61050

      If we can finish with the same amount of 2pt wins as losses, letting the 1pt losses fall wherever, it will be a highly successful season.

    • #61051

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>Rozy had excellent hockey sense with soft hands, excellent

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>3-wheeled shopping cart Rozy?!

      The man, the myth, the legend, the one and only.

    • #61110
      TheREALWiz
      Participant

      Rozy’s injury ended his earning career, and I love him for the sport.

      On the old fan boards we were on, I never got too down on most of the skaters, but I remember that anti-Duncan Keith “Hawk fans” who said he was usually hopeless as a point guy, and loads about his weak shot, so I gotta just think positives towards the game it’s fans.

    • #61263
      Assman22
      Participant

      4 posts in 7 days – where’d everyone go?!

    • #61317

      <p class=”userway-s15-active” data-userway-s15-styled=”true” style=”font-family: UDF, serif !important; transition: all;”>4 posts in 7 days – where’d everyone go?!

      Was about to write the same. Especially where’s Boilermaker?

    • #61378
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      4 posts in 7 days – where’d everyone go?!

      And this with the best blogger hockey mind we’ve had since Al Camiglia. Reason would have it since it’s not the blogger or a toxic board that keeps people away that it’s something else…… Speaking for myself you can only have so many posts disappear and in my case a 4-5 paragraph post I held off making for a couple months get disappeared soured me bad enough to stop contributing.

      You can only take so much of the dial up speed, difficult to even find and take multiple clicks at dial up speed to find Frenchy’s posts, post after post disappearing, the site going dark for a few days at a time to chase even patient posters away. …… A damn shame, really. The owner of the site is on a shoe string budget and he got/gets what he paid for. .. I ran and paid for a place like this for 14 yrs so when he says you can’t have private messaging I know that ain’t true. Spend the 25 bucks more for that feature. Dial up speed? Pay the 75 bucks for better processing. Don’t wanna go dark for a week? Hire a webmaster not your 14 yr old wiz nephew. .. Been there, man. Unfortunately, free or cheap software or treating a site like a hobby doesn’t work.

      As for me I’m waiting for the day Frenchy lands in a proper environment he deserves. When that day comes I hope it’s the Hawks he blogs about. I see he likes and knows the Habs well and am assuming he is a French Canadian. A natural for a Habs blogger.

      Can’t say it enough, this guy is a scout and conveys thought as a scout. You read him for even just a couple months blog about what you’re watching you will have a much better hockey mind weather you’re an expert or novice……. As for me when this post dissapears it’ll be another 6 months before I post. If HH is still solvent.

      • #61495
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m still delivering the same level of work, even if I’m now covering a few teams. Yes, I’m French Canadian and I cover the Canadiens every day as well.

        I’ve always tried to write the game with a different pair of eyes — to help fans understand what’s really happening on the ice.

    • #61383
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      But, I came to post about Guentzal since they play TB. After watching Lardis play at least parts of 25 games post draft and a bunch of film I struggled for a comparison. And then Guentzal popped into my mind…….. The main similarity to me was his uncanny ability to find dangerous open soft ice and if the puck finds him in that open ice he’s an assassin.

      Pucks fly of his stick in a nano second, he’s deadly accurate with his shot, he has a goal scorers instinct in that he knows how the goalie will be moving and uses the goalies movement/physics against him, he handles bad pucks at an elite level allowing him to get hard, quick accurate shots off with wobbly not flat pucks and his one timer is elite. IMO Bedard watches Lardis more that any teammate especial Lardis’ one timer.

      A lot like Guentzal. …… Right now Lardis is the deadliest Hawk in high danger zones, just like Guentzal.

    • #61477
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Thought Soderblom tracked the puck and his reads were as good as he’s able… The point earned is as good as a fan could hope for against a cup winning coach/systems after winning on the road the night before at Carolina that makes you earn every inch of ice.

      Blashill’s systems/structure is really starting to take hold as players are bought in and are damn near being properly placed allowing execution up and down the lineup by a really young team developing at the NHL level.

    • #61503
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Especially where’s Boilermaker

      I’m still here, but mostly to read Frenchy’s informative articles and not to post comments. I can’t say this enough – there is great content here, thanks to Frenchy. But, as others as mentioned, there are times I’m frustrated with the workings of this site.

      • #61505
        CoachFrenchy
        Participant

        Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m glad the articles are still useful and informative for you.
        I understand the frustration with the site — you’re definitely not alone — and I’m thankful you’re still here reading and supporting.

        Frenchy

    • #61504
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Fun to watch Greene, Moore, and Lardis play. If you didn’t notice, they each got a point on the only Hawk goal last night – Greene with the goal assisted by Moore and Lardis. And the othe night Lardis scored in regulation with Moore potting the winner in the shootout. Let’s hope they keep that up.

    • #61525
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      I guess for me this site has its kinks but I’ve figured out if i don’t see the same day game thread, i need to sign in.

    • #61534
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      It’s just nice to see this rebuild working out better than expected and quieting down the insta crowd.

      The fun part for me is watching the vets and seeing their limitations on the ice, soon to be replaced by talented top kids who will take this team to another level because of the depth that is going to take place in the next 3 years.

    • #61536
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      50 points in 51 games not to shabby

      71st game last year to get to 51 points

      Even though Nazar hasn’t scored he’s an effective hockey player just like Moore.

    • #61562
      BJPHAWKFAN
      Participant

      I went to the game last night with a couple of old friends. The parking cost is ridiculous. For twenty dollars more, you could buy a ticket. I thought they looked quite lethargic. Five minutes into the second period, they had four SOG. What’s that? They need a better coach for the defense. They constantly leave the front of the net to go halfway up the D zone. What I can’t stand is all of the noise in the UC. It is constant. You can’t talk to the guy sitting next to you. I love this team, but I hate that place!

    • #61588
      Dionysus
      Participant

      I can’t see this experiment working. All the rookies are a bunch of weak, undersized junior players. Wirtz has to get rid of Davidson and get a real GM.

    • #61592
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Thank you, I really appreciate that. I’m still delivering the same level of work, even if I’m now covering a few teams. Yes, I’m French Canadian and I cover the Canadiens every day as well.

      I’ve always tried to write the game with a different pair of eyes — to help fans understand what’s really happening on the ice.

      Frenchy, you don’t have to take inventory of yourself more than any other normal person does. You’re not only steeped in the sport at its grassroot level but in the hockey hotbed of the world. Add your abilities with the written word and you’re a fine conduit. ……… My hope is you never change a thing.

    • #61597
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      I went to the game last night with a couple of old friends. The parking cost is ridiculous. For twenty dollars more, you could buy a ticket. I thought they looked quite lethargic. Five minutes into the second period, they had four SOG. What’s that? They need a better coach for the defense. They constantly leave the front of the net to go halfway up the D zone. What I can’t stand is all of the noise in the UC. It is constant. You can’t talk to the guy sitting next to you. I love this team, but I hate that place!

      The SOG and TOI in the Qzone was really skewed vs TB. But, the Hawks are a very green young team and TB rolls with systems under a world class coach that has won multiple cups. No doubt dominated for the most part but context is needed.

      As far as SOG against, the Hawks play a system that accentuates Knight’s strengths and that is it’s ok to give up shots as long as Knight can see them. It’s a trade off the Hawk’s system is designed for. This is generally speaking, of course HDCA are not part of any system but a regular Hawk game should see the Hawk’s outshot until the talent is so good the puck will be at the other end the majority of the time and there will be less shots against.

    • #61760
      boilermaker
      Participant

      Vanacker leading the OHL in goals with 33. Pridham 2nd in the OHL in goals with 31.

      Let’s assume they continue scoring and finish 1 and 2 in goals scored.

      When was the last time, if ever, the two top OHL goal scorers were property of the same NHL club? Not to mention last year’s OHL top goal scorer (Lardis) is with the same club also.

      Also, the current leading KHL goal scorer was drafted by the same club above. You can guess who.

      Slackers Nathan Behm is tied for 7th in goals scored in the WHL, and Anton Frondell is way down the pack tied for 14th in the SHL.

      I realize that their scoring prowess may not translate to the NHL, but there are a lot of guys in the system that could put the puck in the net. Hopefully a few continue their scoring ways down the road.

    • #61833
      Mr Ricochet
      Participant

      Vanacker leading the OHL in goals with 33. Pridham 2nd in the OHL in goals with 31.

      Let’s assume they continue scoring and finish 1 and 2 in goals scored.

      When was the last time, if ever, the two top OHL goal scorers were property of the same NHL club? Not to mention last year’s OHL top goal scorer (Lardis) is with the same club also.

      Also, the current leading KHL goal scorer was drafted by the same club above. You can guess who.

      Slackers Nathan Behm is tied for 7th in goals scored in the WHL, and Anton Frondell is way down the pack tied for 14th in the SHL.

      I realize that their scoring prowess may not translate to the NHL, but there are a lot of guys in the system that could put the puck in the net. Hopefully a few continue their scoring ways down the road.

      When you start putting pencil to paper and the stats of the pipeline you can’t help but think nothing goes so right, to the limits of what looks possible. It’s just crazy but when I look at prospect after prospect leading leagues in all kindsa categories I see danger and opportunity and that indeed there are still important phases of the rebuild to navigate.

      History tells us not all of these guys with the heady stats are gonna be impact or even useful NHLers. It seems the amateur scouts and amateur side of the organIzation has done well now the pro scouting is going to take us thru the next phase along with development. Identifying who they think are going to be NHL playoff roster caliber players, who aren’t and who should be moved while they still have value.

      Lotta cards to be played in this total tear down rebuild.

    • #61861
      BetweenTheDots
      Participant

      Vanacker leading the OHL in goals with 33. Pridham 2nd in the OHL in goals with 31.

      Let’s assume they continue scoring and finish 1 and 2 in goals scored.

      When was the last time, if ever, the two top OHL goal scorers were property of the same NHL club? Not to mention last year’s OHL top goal scorer (Lardis) is with the same club also.

      Also, the current leading KHL goal scorer was drafted by the same club above. You can guess who.

      Slackers Nathan Behm is tied for 7th in goals scored in the WHL, and Anton Frondell is way down the pack tied for 14th in the SHL.

      I realize that their scoring prowess may not translate to the NHL, but there are a lot of guys in the system that could put the puck in the net. Hopefully a few continue their scoring ways down the road.

      Isn’t that great Boiler?

      You are correct all of them won’t hit or even fit, but that’s the advantage drafting the most top 100 prospects in the past 4 years.

      I’m hoping he’s going to be able to get another 1st and 2nd round pick for 2027 and keep this outstanding talent pipe line rolling.

      If Wiz is right we might not see a trade in the first round this year, like 2023.

      Right now he is 5 of 26 top 100 picks who look like NHL players? Teams hope for at least 1 NHL player a year, 5 in 4 drafts and expect at least another 5 coming from those 4 drafts is outstanding

    • #62237

      We’ve still got 3 guys at Rockford playing defense and one goalie hopefully making it to the big team. Something tells me KK gets traded before next season.

    • #62849
      Breagbag
      Participant

      Glad to see the bring up Rinzel again to shake things up. Right now, the 55/44 pair is an outright disaster in their own end. The development isn’t a straight line, but we need better. Levshunov was better playing with 48 and with less responsibility. Inexperience and the long grind of an NHL season seem to be wearing on him.

      44 has had a decent year but he is not at the top of his game lately when it comes to play in his own end, I think he is trying to do too much. It would be great if the Hawks could just back him off the #5 whole where he should be slotted.

    • #62882

      Glad to see the bring up Rinzel again to shake things up. Right now, the 55/44 pair is an outright disaster in their own end. The development isn’t a straight line, but we need better. Levshunov was better playing with 48 and with less responsibility. Inexperience and the long grind of an NHL season seem to be wearing on him.

      44 has had a decent year but he is not at the top of his game lately when it comes to play in his own end, I think he is trying to do too much. It would be great if the Hawks could just back him off the #5 whole where he should be slotted.

      I didn’t watch the game but judging by the box score Rinzel made it through the game unscathed and at least activated for 3 shots on goal and led in time on ice.

    • #62943
      Breagbag
      Participant

      I didn’t watch the game but judging by the box score Rinzel made it through the game unscathed and at least activated for 3 shots on goal and led in time on ice.

      I think Rinzel plays into the structure better. Maybe less flashy but definitely more predictable and more likely to make the safe play. I hope #6 can stick from here because if he can play his minutes reasonably well, it’s a big improvement. I haven’t looked at the numbers, but I think they were a better team with him in the lineup.

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