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June 30, 2025 at 8:58 pm #14012
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ParticipantWell yeah, but additional income is not additional cap space. In fact, the additional income allows the Leafs to support other teams, including the ones offering players the huge tax break. Even if it is only 43 games worth it is still significant.
Huh? How are the leafs supporting other teams? The leafs can’t hand opposition teams money openly, unless there are acceptable payouts from tv contracts etc? (Sincere question there)
June 30, 2025 at 9:22 pm #14018Aetherial
ParticipantWell yeah, but additional income is not additional cap space. In fact, the additional income allows the Leafs to support other teams, including the ones offering players the huge tax break. Even if it is only 43 games worth it is still significant.
Huh? How are the leafs supporting other teams? The leafs can’t hand opposition teams money openly, unless there are acceptable payouts from tv contracts etc? (Sincere question there)
FFS, it takes me 15 minutes to respond because the browser I was using doesn’t get along with this site, it “toggles” me logged in and logged out and by the time I navigate to the thread I am toggled off … had to use MS Edge, ugh.
Anyway, I believe the NHL has revenue sharing.
Interestingly, the article on team revenue I saw (June 2024) showed the Oilers with the second highest revenue. I never would have guessed that. Panthers were bottom 6, but I think maybe they were the only tax-free state in the bottom 10?
I think the Leafs do get an advantage in terms of just being a wealthy enough franchise that they can structure their contracts with large lump sums (??) I am not positive how any of this works.
June 30, 2025 at 9:22 pm #14019Fakepartofme
ParticipantSo much for kane.
DammitJune 30, 2025 at 9:25 pm #14021Aetherial
ParticipantAnyone see any good PC deals out there… gaming laptops, relatively powerful (even though I don’t play any demanding games right now)
Had a nice 17″ Legion, tore it down trying to fix it, but it’s fried 🙁
June 30, 2025 at 9:29 pm #14025Aetherial
ParticipantSo much for kane.
DammitIt’s OK Fake. I don’t think he was the answer.
June 30, 2025 at 9:45 pm #14026PrinceLH
Participant<p data-userway-s3-2-styled=”true” style=”background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; transition: all; border-color: rgb(255, 255, 255) !important; color: rgb(80, 208, 160) !important;”>Well yeah, but additional income is not additional cap space. In fact, the additional income allows the Leafs to support other teams, including the ones offering players the huge tax break. Even if it is only 43 games worth it is still significant.
<p data-userway-s3-2-styled=”true” style=”background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0) !important; transition: all; border-color: rgb(255, 255, 255) !important; color: rgb(80, 208, 160) !important;”>Huh? How are the leafs supporting other teams? The leafs can’t hand opposition teams money openly, unless there are acceptable payouts from tv contracts etc? (Sincere question there)
Equalization payments. Should be only for a 3 year period and if you can’t make it in the league, lose your franchise.
June 30, 2025 at 9:48 pm #14028PrinceLH
ParticipantLeafs need to target Boeser, to replace the Marner offense. Also move on from Kampf, Robertson & McMann.
June 30, 2025 at 9:49 pm #14029Dozzer
ParticipantFFS, it takes me 15 minutes to respond because the browser I was using doesn’t get along with this site, it “toggles” me logged in and logged out and by the time I navigate to the thread I am toggled off … had to use MS Edge, ugh.
Anyway, I believe the NHL has revenue sharing.
Interestingly, the article on team revenue I saw (June 2024) showed the Oilers with the second highest revenue. I never would have guessed that. Panthers were bottom 6, but I think maybe they were the only tax-free state in the bottom 10?
I think the Leafs do get an advantage in terms of just being a wealthy enough franchise that they can structure their contracts with large lump sums (??) I am not positive how any of this works.
Gave it a quick read, basically cut 6% from the top 10 teams and give it to the bottom 10 teams and yeah, a team like Toronto who the fuck knows what they’ll do, they’re rich lol.
June 30, 2025 at 10:02 pm #14033Aetherial
ParticipantFFS, it takes me 15 minutes to respond because the browser I was using doesn’t get along with this site, it “toggles” me logged in and logged out and by the time I navigate to the thread I am toggled off … had to use MS Edge, ugh.
Anyway, I believe the NHL has revenue sharing.
Interestingly, the article on team revenue I saw (June 2024) showed the Oilers with the second highest revenue. I never would have guessed that. Panthers were bottom 6, but I think maybe they were the only tax-free state in the bottom 10?
I think the Leafs do get an advantage in terms of just being a wealthy enough franchise that they can structure their contracts with large lump sums (??) I am not positive how any of this works.
Gave it a quick read, basically cut 6% from the top 10 teams and give it to the bottom 10 teams and yeah, a team like Toronto who the fuck knows what they’ll do, they’re rich lol.
Wife and I were just talking about whether or not the Leafs would have won without a cap. I know they failed for decades, but I am tempted to say that, with no cap, they would ice an all-star team every year and probably would have won.
I also wonder how much they can make handshake deals and promise people lucrative retirement gigs (Tavares??) I don’t imagine that is legal, but it would be nearly impossible to enforce that rule.
June 30, 2025 at 10:15 pm #14035Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI do think Macelli makes Domi the odd man out.
That would be incredibly stupid. Domi actually has played an NHL playoff game in his life. And played well at times.
June 30, 2025 at 10:22 pm #14038monkeypunk
ParticipantLeafs need to target Boeser, to replace the Marner offense. Also move on from Kampf, Robertson & McMann.
Insofar as I’m aware the Leafs have no interest in Boeser. I think he’s going to be around $8.5m – maybe more – and that’s not money we need to be spending.
Let’s assume that they trade Jarnkrok and Kampf, you basically have something like this:
Knies (7.8) – Matthews (13.3) – Maccelli (3.4)
?? – Tavares (4.4) – Nylander (11.5)
Domi (3.8) – Roy (3) – McMann (1.4)
?? – Laughton (1.5) – Lorentz (1.35)Rielly (7.5) – Carlo (3.5)
McCabe (4.5) – Tanev (4.5)
Benoit (1.4) – OEL (3.5)Stolarz (2.5)
Woll (3.7)$300k in dead cap to Benning and Reaves buried in the AHL and that leaves about $12.95 (just for the math of it, if they traded Domi it would make that 16.6m).
You could go after a Boeser and leave yourself little room . . . I’d commented a couple of pages back that I might just be okay with trading Domi if it could create more board competition in the bottom-6.
Guys like Mangiapane, Tanev or Brown add a more competitive dynamic. There are rumours they might try and acquire Kadri. I’d be somewhat down with that idea – but I’d like some retention given his age and the amount of term left. Granted I think that’s probably nostalgia talking more than sense. That said they have enough wiggle room if they can make some moves to control how to fill out those 2-3 forward places.
But context-wise these are projected cap numbers from capwages (some of which I’d disagree with, but it’s a basis for conversation):
Boeser: 8.5
Ehlers: 8.1
Drouin: 5
Suter: 5
Granlund: 5
Roslovic: 4.1
Mangiapane: 3.8
Olofsson: 3.4
Dadonov: 3.3
Nyquist: 3.2
Appleton: 3.2
Beauvillier: 3.2
Brown: 2.9
Raddysh: 2.7
Skinner: 2.6
Armia: 2.5
Bjugstasd: 2.3
Tanev: 2.2
Eller: 2.1
Kunin: 1.8
Dvorak: 1.8
Tatar: 1.5
Kuraly: 1.5
Brazeau: 1.5
Jeannot: 1.4
Sturm: 1.4
Eyssimont: 1.4
Faksa: 1.3June 30, 2025 at 10:57 pm #14051Dozzer
ParticipantWife and I were just talking about whether or not the Leafs would have won without a cap. I know they failed for decades, but I am tempted to say that, with no cap, they would ice an all-star team every year and probably would have won.
I also wonder how much they can make handshake deals and promise people lucrative retirement gigs (Tavares??) I don’t imagine that is legal, but it would be nearly impossible to enforce that rule.
I am willing to bet JT ends up in the leafs office somehow… not as GM or anything “routinely” public, just some quiet guy that goes around doing the “occasional” public thing lol
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June 30, 2025 at 11:16 pm #14055dmnted
ParticipantDoes Dorofeyev get a new Rolex watch for giving up his #16 to Marner?
June 30, 2025 at 11:52 pm #14060Dozzer
ParticipantDoes Dorofeyev get a new Rolex watch for giving up his #16 to Marner?
He could flip it to 61 but Stone would say fuck that!
July 1, 2025 at 2:23 am #14075Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantLeafs need to target Boeser, to replace the Marner offense. Also move on from Kampf, Robertson & McMann.
Boeser absolutely sucks. And he’s going to Minnesota anyway. You really need to stop advocating for a guy who was -25 with 25 goals coming to the Leafs on some giant contract.
Mangiapane is talking to the Bruins after having a career worst season.
The Leafs aren’t getting anybody of substance via the UFA market. Everybody good is either gone, going somewhere else while the rest suck balls or are going to get massively overpaid.
The Leafs are fucked.
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