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Guys, Codi Ceci is making $100k MORE than JT for the next 4 years.
JT is an absolute beauty.
Remember watching him with the 67’s. Played 35 minutes a night. Not sure who has proven to be the most legendary of being absolutely mid/terrible but are such great athletes, their coaches fall in love and play them 24/7…him or Jack Johnson?
Never said a star, but it’ll be a top 6, not a tweener, a legit top 6 RW. Win now, they’re not going to want to take a massive step back next year, not with how their contracts line up for expiry, especially on the backend.
$3.5 million is about all they’ll spend on the top line winger role now. That would literally put the top line over 25% of the salary cap.
The highly paid Marner is out, and has been replaced with Knies, who is literally only making about $3 million less, hence why they can spend that on the other winger. Which means they’d be spending about the same amount on the top line as they were last year.
The overpaid top six days are done in Toronto. Good. Instead of an $11 million dollar winger and a $900K winger we have a $7.75 million winger and a $3.5 million dollar winger. They’d literally only be saving about $650K from last year doing this on that line.
So I’m just looking things over and here’s a little interest.
Maccelli: $3.43 million (40P estimate)
Roy: $3 million (30P estimate)Find another guy for $3 million who can dump 30P in and bang, there’s Marner’s 100P replaced for $9.43 million while offering far more balanced scoring.
The ship has sailed but I was really hoping to get Brown in the bottom-6 because he’s an exceptional penalty killer and still puts up 30 points / season with limited opportunity to do so.
One way of looking at it is that Marner scored roughly 30 goals but a healthy Auston Matthews will make up half of that. Nic Roy will contribute another 15 from the third line. If Maccelli works out, you get another 15 or so. The question isn’t the offense, per se, it is the penalty killing and the defensive awareness that Marner brought. As much as we all got frustrated when he’d screw up, he did make a lot of good defensive plays and was typically reading plays well and being in the right position to stop plays from developing. Maccelli has some larger shoes to fill there – a more mature Knies will help, a healthy Matthews will help – but I did want them to find a faster guy or two to enhance that PK.
Lots of summer left. Not a lot of options.
You’re forgetting the 60-75+ assists Marner brings. Matthews is more likely to be worse without Marner, don’t see him getting anywhere near 60-70 again. Knies too. The PP will suffer, which means Nylander and Tavares suffer too, which already sucked because of horrid coaching.
I asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards? We’re not talking about a team that has been a proven winner and is losing somebody lower in the line-up. We’re talking about a team that lost it’s #1 point producer and can’t even get out of the 2nd round and just got worse while their #1 competitor is as good, potentially better when they get to the next trade deadline.
Nic Roy is a 3rd line winger. He’s not a replacement like Tkachuk was for Huberdeau. This team has not yet and probably never will recover from losing such a high prized asset for next to nothing.
its not likley Matthews would score 60 again whether Marner was there or not.
Matthews is the only player to do it twice in the last 30 years and anyone who did it 3 times, played in the 80sOvechkin only did it once.
Marner did not want to re-sign, and wouldnt let the Leafs trade him (his right), but still fucking annoying if he was leaving anyway.
no point crying over it. hes goneI asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards
has a selke nominated 100 point player ever changed teams before?
I doubt thats ever happened to start with, so not possible to win a cupif it has happened, who was it?
otherwise what a stupid questionits not likley Matthews would score 60 again whether Marner was there or not.
Matthews is the only player to do it twice in the last 30 years and anyone who did it 3 times, played in the 80sOvechkin only did it once.
Marner did not want to re-sign, and wouldnt let the Leafs trade him (his right), but still fucking annoying if he was leaving anyway.
no point crying over it. hes goneApparently Marner had no intention of staying the whole past year. That’s annoying.
If true, had he accepted a trade, I think he could have save his reputation with most fans in Toronto.
Now.I just cant stand him.
And yes of course it was his right to not waive….but fack himNever said a star, but it’ll be a top 6, not a tweener, a legit top 6 RW. Win now, they’re not going to want to take a massive step back next year, not with how their contracts line up for expiry, especially on the backend.
$3.5 million is about all they’ll spend on the top line winger role now. That would literally put the top line over 25% of the salary cap.
The highly paid Marner is out, and has been replaced with Knies, who is literally only making about $3 million less, hence why they can spend that on the other winger. Which means they’d be spending about the same amount on the top line as they were last year.
The overpaid top six days are done in Toronto. Good. Instead of an $11 million dollar winger and a $900K winger we have a $7.75 million winger and a $3.5 million dollar winger. They’d literally only be saving about $650K from last year doing this on that line.
3.5M is not a top 6 winger. Move Kampf and Reaves out, and we have like 9M and change, not to mention Jarnkrok.
Let’s see what Tree can do before opening night; it’s only July 2nd.
3.5M is not a top 6 winger. Move Kampf and Reaves out, and we have like 9M and change, not to mention Jarnkrok.
Let’s see what Tree can do before opening night; it’s only July 2nd.
They’re not spending over $25 million on the top line. They had a top line winger making less than a million last year. Also you guys are also dismissing the possibility of Cowan who won the Stafford Smythe Memorial Trophy just like Marner did the year before his first year in the NHL.
They’re not going to go hand out another $7+ million multi year contract especially when the GM isn’t signing anyone else to multi year contracts.
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3.5M is not a top 6 winger. Move Kampf and Reaves out, and we have like 9M and change, not to mention Jarnkrok.Let’s see what Tree can do before opening night; it’s only July 2nd.
But who the heck is trading for Kampf and Reaves? Also who has a top line winger that they are willing to move? Im sure Tre has a list of possible candidates, but do the leafs even have what the other team would want?
Ya cant mortgage the whole future.
I wish this were NHL 2023 on PS4….probably could get a 4th for Reaves. lolStill early though
But who the heck is trading for Kampf and Reaves? Also who has a top line winger that they are willing to move? Im sure Tre has a list of possible candidates, but do the leafs even have what the other team would want?
Ya cant mortgage the whole future.
I wish this were NHL 2023 on PS4….probably could get a 4th for Reaves. lolStill early though
SJ might take guys like Kampf now, and Reaves can be buried. After this years bonus Kampf only is owed $3.48 million more of his contract.
its not likley Matthews would score 60 again whether Marner was there or not.
Matthews is the only player to do it twice in the last 30 years and anyone who did it 3 times, played in the 80sOvechkin only did it once.
Marner did not want to re-sign, and wouldnt let the Leafs trade him (his right), but still fucking annoying if he was leaving anyway.
no point crying over it. hes goneIf healthy and with Marner, there’s a very good chance Matthews could score 60+ again. That’s why they re-signed him. You think you keep a player at that price if you think he’s NEVER going to be able to do it again?
Marner would have stayed at 14, which was a discount to the 12 he got in Vegas which would have been 16.5 in Toronto. And they should have signed him.
The cap went up 7 AAV. Trade Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and they could have created more cap space. With Tavares and Marner at 4 and 14, it still would have been less than the nearly 22 they cost last year.
The Leafs decided they had to move on because of the idiots in the media and the idiots in the fanbase screaming for change. Now they got change; they got worse.
I asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards
has a selke nominated 100 point player ever changed teams before?
I doubt thats ever happened to start with, so not possible to win a cupif it has happened, who was it?
otherwise what a stupid questionI haven’t gone through every single player but no, probably has not happened. It’s a perfectly good, valid question. It’s the type of question this management is clearly too stupid to ask itself to realize how dumb they are for allowing it happen.
I asked this way before he left and I’ll ask it again, what team out there lost a 100 point Selke nominated player for basically nothing and then won the Cup afterwards
has a selke nominated 100 point player ever changed teams before?
I doubt thats ever happened to start with, so not possible to win a cupif it has happened, who was it?
otherwise what a stupid questionOf all the things that have ever happened, they hadn’t happened until they did happen. Crazy stat.
If healthy and with Marner, there’s a very good chance Matthews could score 60+ again. That’s why they re-signed him. You think you keep a player at that price if you think he’s NEVER going to be able to do it again?
Marner would have stayed at 14, which was a discount to the 12 he got in Vegas which would have been 16.5 in Toronto. And they should have signed him.
The cap went up 7 AAV. Trade Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and they could have created more cap space. With Tavares and Marner at 4 and 14, it still would have been less than the nearly 22 they cost last year.
The Leafs decided they had to move on because of the idiots in the media and the idiots in the fanbase screaming for change. Now they got change; they got worse.
I said its not likely, thats not “NEVER”, a modern NHL’er having 3, 60 goal seasons is super rare…so its not likely.
Marner was gone regardless, just listen to his own words now that hes in Vegas.
get over it, hes a big boy made his choice.Marner couldnt take the criticism when he failed to help the team, not cut out for it in Toronto.
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