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So whats next for the leafs?
Maybe a mid range bottom 6 player? Roslovic, Olofsson? maybe 1 to 2 year deals?
I read the Leafs may have a hand shake deal in place with Roslovic. The Leafs would like to move a body or two before bring him in to the team.
Don’t forget they have Robertson as well to deal with.Of course this is true….players arent concerned about their cap….for the most part.
And this is why I’m saying it’s only mattering to the star players at this point. You’re still 100% correct for the 98% remainder of the league.
I read the Leafs may have a hand shake deal in place with Roslovic. The Leafs would like to move a body or two before bring him in to the team.
Don’t forget they have Robertson as well to deal with.Isn’t he terrible defensively? I’m not as worried about the offense from our forward group, we need at least some defensive forwards. Matthews and Knies are fine, but JT, Nylander, Robertson, MM, Domi, Robertson, etc. are pretty terrible. People (myself included) kinda want to move on from Kampf and Jarny, but if you replace them with purely offensive forwards, this team is in for a world of hurt.
I read the Leafs may have a hand shake deal in place with Roslovic. The Leafs would like to move a body or two before bring him in to the team.
Don’t forget they have Robertson as well to deal with.[/quote]Really?
They have the cap space to sign him without moving anyone out.
He’s never had more than 45pts in a season…so he shouldnt (better not) cost that muchIsn’t he terrible defensively? I’m not as worried about the offense from our forward group, we need at least some defensive forwards. Matthews and Knies are fine, but JT, Nylander, Robertson, MM, Domi, Robertson, etc. are pretty terrible. People (myself included) kinda want to move on from Kampf and Jarny, but if you replace them with purely offensive forwards, this team is in for a world of hurt.[/quote]
MM was good defensively
Depth offense (and our star offense)is what has hurt us in the playoffs in the past.
Id prefer to keep Jarny over kampf but Tre extended kampf so he may stay over jarny.
But I dont mind seeing either or both go.I read the Leafs may have a hand shake deal in place with Roslovic. The Leafs would like to move a body or two before bring him in to the team.
Don’t forget they have Robertson as well to deal with.Looked up the Roslovic rumour… 3-4 year handshake deal in place that’s waiting on Jarnkrok and Kampf to get moved.
He’s tied to Matthews so I’m choosing to believe I’m choosing to believe I’m choosing to believe I’m choosing to..
Just to get those two removed btw, the signing I don’t really care about lol
fake you need to differentiate your posts better from who you are quoting. thats hard to read whats yours
if the quote is not working. bold it or put a line between your post.
i cant be the only one thinking this lol
fake you need to differentiate your posts better from who you are quoting. thats hard to read whats yours
if the quote is not working. bold it or put a line between your post.
i cant be the only one thinking this lol
Add a pic too Fake!
fake you need to differentiate your posts better from who you are quoting. thats hard to read whats yours
if the quote is not working. bold it or put a line between your post.
i cant be the only one thinking this lol
Add a pic too Fake!
It’s almost like he’s not fully committed to this relationship… err, message board.
In the above hypothetical, you are letting the old GM of the leafs, Marner and Matthews off the hook. JT’s contract as an FA shouldnt have increased Marner and Matthews second contract as much as it apparently did. Even with JT as 11, neither matthews or marner were worth over 10 per….they simply hadnt won anything…granted neither did JT, but he was an FA and apparently turned down 13millies elsewhere.
Dubas just did a horrible job negotiating the contracts; Marner should have signed for 8, matthews 9.5 for the term they signed. The money they got should have come with an 8 year term. Then we wouldnt be in this situation now.
Willy was 7.4…reduced to 6.9 because he sat out.
Marner at 8
Matthews at 9.5I think the playoff results would have been different with the extra cap.
Ifs and butts…ah well.I’m not so much letting anyone off the hook – but in terms of economy of scale, which is used comparatively as well – as soon as the Leafs were willing to pay Tavares $11m, it changed all comparative metrics. It should be noted that Rantanen signed his deal two weeks after Marner for $9.25m, so calling Marner a $9m or $9.5m player at the time is fair by those metrics – and saying that Matthews was a $10m player is also fair by the same comparative measure.
Dubas overpaid Tavares and it directly led to the prices for the other high-end players increasing as a result. I recall that initially Marner was expected to go $8m x 8 and Matthews was $10m x 8 – neither of which happened. Now whether either of those numbers were ever true or not, I don’t know, but it was widely reported at the time – but whether those reports were projections/expectations or actual leaks, I really couldn’t say and obviously don’t recall.
Reading some pretty interesting opinions and takes on here today which is a nice change from the non-stop whining about the Leafs and Marner’s divorce from one person.
IMO saying the state tax (the lack thereof) isn’t a big advantage might be partially right it may not be HUGE but I don’t see how you can deny it being an advantage. If you look back at say the past few years one of the teams from these states has won or been in the finals so (again IMO) that extra cap space has allowed them to perhaps bring in more impactful players in the off season and TDL. And yes, some of them have been masters at using LTIR to assist in this regard and now it seems the Panthers have developed the ‘take less to keep the band together’ culture which is a huge advantage for them. I have said it before but they are more and more like the Bruins were when we all just shook our heads at guys going or staying there for less (except Florida has 2 cups now).
Lots of online discussion everywhere about the cap and players wanting to play in Florida now because they are good. I also see a lot of Panthers fans immediate response to anyone who dares mention the tax break or LTIR games be “Florida is just better run than other teams, nobody was coming here when we sucked”.
Yes they have a GM who has made some great moves, who also has benefitted from the tax break (and culture now because the GM can’t be the hero for guys like Bennett and Marchand taking less to stay – the players did that) and yes no stars wanted to play there when they sucked. Minus being insanely overpaid at the time as Monkey pointed out they did with BOB.
Question – have the Florida Panthers spent to the cap ceiling every year since the cap was introduced? I mean it’s easy to say you sucked because no star players wanted to play there but if you weren’t spending to the max maybe it was that? I thought I would be able to easily find the answer to which teams spent to the cap ceiling vs floor year by year but my google-fu failed me today.
Oh and last thing – someone (sorry don’t recall who) was saying Bettman must go due to one of the many things we all hate about how this league works. One important thing to remember is he is essentially just the face and voice of the board of governors and has very little individual power with the types of things we hate (i.e. taxes differing team to team due to location).
Big changes like addressing that type of issue go to the BOG and they vote and then send the weasel out to be the face and voice of the BOG decision. Don’t get me wrong Bettman is a weasel and I hate his stupid smirking face but he doesn’t really make a lot of the decisions we hate.
If you want to blame anyone blame the BOG and the most powerful person on that board – Jeremy Jacobs of the Boston Bruins who is the chairman of the board & owner of the Bruins.
None of these fuckers pay the proper amount of taxes. Just ask Johnny and how he had to sue to keep all of his money.
Too much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?3/4LD = ?
I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
It’s almost like he’s not fully committed to this relationship… err, message board.
I just wanna know where to post
*starts to cry a little, my gf asks me why, I tell her, she walks away*
None of these fuckers pay the proper amount of taxes. Just ask Johnny and how he had to sue to keep all of his money.
Exactly, saying it was a signing bonus done in the US not Canada. He’s trying to sneak by his leafs signing as well lol.
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