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July 8, 2025 at 2:59 pm #15575
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI read the Leafs may have a hand shake deal in place with Roslovic. The Leafs would like to move a body or two before bring him in to the team.
Don’t forget they have Robertson as well to deal with.Isn’t he terrible defensively? I’m not as worried about the offense from our forward group, we need at least some defensive forwards. Matthews and Knies are fine, but JT, Nylander, Robertson, MM, Domi, Robertson, etc. are pretty terrible. People (myself included) kinda want to move on from Kampf and Jarny, but if you replace them with purely offensive forwards, this team is in for a world of hurt.
Leafs will absolutely suck defensively in the playoffs with more additions like Roslovic. Berube is the polar opposite coach for that garbage. The Leafs are completely retarded in how they build teams.
July 8, 2025 at 3:08 pm #15577monkeypunk
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
I’m pretty sure Maccelli was gotten to be in the top-6 as a Marner-lite replacement. I think Treliving is looking for another top-6 forward but if he fails, my suspicion is that Domi gets that look. Then he should still be seeking to bolster that third line with a properly complimentary checking forward.
With Rielly . . .the simple way I look it is that the problem with defenseman who can’t play defense is always that they can’t play defense. But how much are they giving you in that trade off? Like Jake Gardiner had one year where the trade off was wonderful (I think he was third pairing with Carrick or something like that) – but most other years were absolutely terrible. In the end it wasn’t a trade off anyone wanted to be making.
You take a guy like Bouchard and look at his xG with a star partner like Ekholm and you can see that his xGF and xGA differential was 3.26 – 2.22; when he was with Kulak it was 2.95 – 2.17. Bouchard is exceptionally offensive with poor defensive skills – and he is very puck reliant (ie, if he has the puck he’s pretty good, but without it, we see how bad he is).
Now compare that to Rielly with Carlo and you see 2.91 – 2.07, which is very similar to Bouchard with Kulak. Rielly with Tanev was 2.77 – 1.92 which makes sense when you consider that Tanev is more defensive but less offensive. It would be great if we had a guy like Ekholm, but that was definitely Ken Holland’s masterpiece in Edmonton. It was a brilliant trade.
It’s something we know, but if you had just guys like Tanev, for instance – lots of blocked shots, lots of closed lanes but not a ton of puck retrieval or zone exit passes. Guys like Morgan Rielly – as much as he drives me crazy, too, are a necessary evil. So you insulate them with a guy like Carlo and I think you can potentially maximize their value.
I say this because I have to remind myself of this all the time. Morgan Rielly drives me fucking crazy.
July 8, 2025 at 3:41 pm #15581dmnted
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??Roslovic?? (Domi)
?Marcelli? Robertson?, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi/Roslovic?
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
Rielly, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
Is Pezz the 13th forward?
is there a market for these two: Kampf and Jornkrok what a realistic trade proposal?July 8, 2025 at 4:59 pm #15599monkeypunk
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??Roslovic?? (Domi)
?Marcelli? Robertson?, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi/Roslovic?
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
Rielly, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
Is Pezz the 13th forward?
is there a market for these two: Kampf and Jornkrok what a realistic trade proposal?Anaheim is below the cap floor at the moment. You could unload Kampf and Jarnkrok for future considerations easily enough – especially Jarnkrok now. He’s in his final year and his signing bonus has been paid, so he’s only owed $775k. Kampf also had his signing bonus paid, but he has 2 years left, so you’d still be on the nut for all of his $2.4m next year – but only $1.075m this year.
I do think there are teams that could definitely upgrade their bottom-6 with those guys, but who are we getting now? We didn’t bother to upgrade our bottom-6 with anyone and Pezzetta . . . let’s say that his enthusiasm overshadows his ungoodness. He could bring some energy to the 4th line, though; I’d just be surprised if he gets more than 40 games.
July 8, 2025 at 5:01 pm #15600Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
I’m pretty sure Maccelli was gotten to be in the top-6 as a Marner-lite replacement. I think Treliving is looking for another top-6 forward but if he fails, my suspicion is that Domi gets that look. Then he should still be seeking to bolster that third line with a properly complimentary checking forward.
With Rielly . . .the simple way I look it is that the problem with defenseman who can’t play defense is always that they can’t play defense. But how much are they giving you in that trade off? Like Jake Gardiner had one year where the trade off was wonderful (I think he was third pairing with Carrick or something like that) – but most other years were absolutely terrible. In the end it wasn’t a trade off anyone wanted to be making.
You take a guy like Bouchard and look at his xG with a star partner like Ekholm and you can see that his xGF and xGA differential was 3.26 – 2.22; when he was with Kulak it was 2.95 – 2.17. Bouchard is exceptionally offensive with poor defensive skills – and he is very puck reliant (ie, if he has the puck he’s pretty good, but without it, we see how bad he is).
Now compare that to Rielly with Carlo and you see 2.91 – 2.07, which is very similar to Bouchard with Kulak. Rielly with Tanev was 2.77 – 1.92 which makes sense when you consider that Tanev is more defensive but less offensive. It would be great if we had a guy like Ekholm, but that was definitely Ken Holland’s masterpiece in Edmonton. It was a brilliant trade.
It’s something we know, but if you had just guys like Tanev, for instance – lots of blocked shots, lots of closed lanes but not a ton of puck retrieval or zone exit passes. Guys like Morgan Rielly – as much as he drives me crazy, too, are a necessary evil. So you insulate them with a guy like Carlo and I think you can potentially maximize their value.
I say this because I have to remind myself of this all the time. Morgan Rielly drives me fucking crazy.
Maccelli will work in the top-six just about as well as Kerfoot did. Same goes for Domi. These guys are barely top-six players, much, much less actually good ones. And defensively, they’re both useless.
We’re talking about two guys, whose combined goal total, was only 1 more than Robertson.
If the Leafs end the season with either Domi or Maccelli in the top-six, they won’t win a series.
July 8, 2025 at 9:51 pm #15661underhill14
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
I’m pretty sure Maccelli was gotten to be in the top-6 as a Marner-lite replacement. I think Treliving is looking for another top-6 forward but if he fails, my suspicion is that Domi gets that look. Then he should still be seeking to bolster that third line with a properly complimentary checking forward.
With Rielly . . .the simple way I look it is that the problem with defenseman who can’t play defense is always that they can’t play defense. But how much are they giving you in that trade off? Like Jake Gardiner had one year where the trade off was wonderful (I think he was third pairing with Carrick or something like that) – but most other years were absolutely terrible. In the end it wasn’t a trade off anyone wanted to be making.
You take a guy like Bouchard and look at his xG with a star partner like Ekholm and you can see that his xGF and xGA differential was 3.26 – 2.22; when he was with Kulak it was 2.95 – 2.17. Bouchard is exceptionally offensive with poor defensive skills – and he is very puck reliant (ie, if he has the puck he’s pretty good, but without it, we see how bad he is).
Now compare that to Rielly with Carlo and you see 2.91 – 2.07, which is very similar to Bouchard with Kulak. Rielly with Tanev was 2.77 – 1.92 which makes sense when you consider that Tanev is more defensive but less offensive. It would be great if we had a guy like Ekholm, but that was definitely Ken Holland’s masterpiece in Edmonton. It was a brilliant trade.
It’s something we know, but if you had just guys like Tanev, for instance – lots of blocked shots, lots of closed lanes but not a ton of puck retrieval or zone exit passes. Guys like Morgan Rielly – as much as he drives me crazy, too, are a necessary evil. So you insulate them with a guy like Carlo and I think you can potentially maximize their value.
I say this because I have to remind myself of this all the time. Morgan Rielly drives me fucking crazy.
Great post as always Monkey, makes a ton of sense…especially the bolded. 😉
One side of me really thinks D is not the problem…Rielly’s alcohol and coke issues aside, I kid sort of…but the D is really close.
Also, I’m willing to risk a Maccelli experiment on 1st line RW cuz I know Domi did really well there so there’s a back up plan.
I do think a really good 2nd line LW…who could do a 1st line RW duty…is the only missing piece to take next season to the next level.
That’s where I’m at.
July 8, 2025 at 11:45 pm #15665Lawsie
ParticipantWhat numbers are you using?
Florida: $12 x 0.63 = $7.56
Ontario: $12 x 0.4647 = $5.58
You might want to relearn the calculator.
Florida taxation: 37%
Ontario taxation: 53.53%Like I said, I used the forbes tax calculator…I simply entered the salary, single person and selected area.
As previously mentioned, “not sure how accurate it is”Also, you have the exchange rate as well. the USD goes much further here……for now.[/quote]
Exchange rate is a non-issue. Nobody spends $5M per year on groceries and the cost of most goods is increased in Canada to reflect the weaker dollar. A Rover ain’t cheaper in Canada. If it’s 100k in USD it’ll be $140k CAD. So USD for athletes living here doesn’t translate into cheaper living.
Money, Winning, Lifestyle.
July 9, 2025 at 7:26 am #15686senstrolltwo
ParticipantPuckpedia has a tax calculator
https://puckpedia.com/tax-calculatorno need to watch the games, just calculate the players tax
July 9, 2025 at 9:56 am #15704Scabeh
ParticipantI feel like a James Tanner article about how taxes justify renting over buying property is a must here.
July 9, 2025 at 1:19 pm #15739Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantExchange rate is a non-issue. Nobody spends $5M per year on groceries and the cost of most goods is increased in Canada to reflect the weaker dollar. A Rover ain’t cheaper in Canada. If it’s 100k in USD it’ll be $140k CAD. So USD for athletes living here doesn’t translate into cheaper living. Money, Winning, Lifestyle.
You nailed it. Weather is probably a factor too and most of the no income tax states have way better weather than Toronto too.
When a franchise like Toronto runs it’s own home town guys out of town, they truly have no hope of building a competitive team. They’ll get the guys like Tavares, who people will love, but win nothing.
July 9, 2025 at 3:15 pm #15761dmnted
ParticipantExchange rate is a non-issue. Nobody spends $5M per year on groceries and the cost of most goods is increased in Canada to reflect the weaker dollar. A Rover ain’t cheaper in Canada. If it’s 100k in USD it’ll be $140k CAD. So USD for athletes living here doesn’t translate into cheaper living. Money, Winning, Lifestyle.
You nailed it. Weather is probably a factor too and most of the no income tax states have way better weather than Toronto too.
When a franchise like Toronto runs it’s own home town guys out of town, they truly have no hope of building a competitive team. They’ll get the guys like Tavares, who people will love, but win nothing.
He left on his own accord. No one ran him out of town.
Stop telling false hoodJuly 9, 2025 at 3:57 pm #15770Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantHe left on his own accord. No one ran him out of town. Stop telling false hood
Wrong. Team refused to pay him what he’s worth, media (that owns the team) ran with a bullshit narrative and the fans ran him out of town.
The only falsehood here is the idea that this team is or will be better without him.
July 9, 2025 at 4:08 pm #15772Cush29
ParticipantWrong. Team refused to pay him what he’s worth, media (that owns the team) ran with a bullshit narrative and the fans ran him out of town.
The only falsehood here is the idea that this team is or will be better without him. – Unbelievable Whiner[/quote]
Wrong. He left and you are crying like Mitch was crying on the bench because Willy had to tell him to sack the fuck up and stop whining.
Just stop with your constant barrage of bullshit about this being on anyone other than Marner and his daddy.
Go cheer for Vegas and bitch and whine about that team to their fans and GTFO out of here – nobody wants you here you loser.
July 9, 2025 at 4:30 pm #15775Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWrong. He left and you are crying like Mitch was crying on the bench because Willy had to tell him to sack the fuck up and stop whining.
Just stop with your constant barrage of bullshit about this being on anyone other than Marner and his daddy.
Go cheer for Vegas and bitch and whine about that team to their fans and GTFO out of here – nobody wants you here you loser.
Typical sheep reply.
July 9, 2025 at 4:48 pm #15777Cush29
ParticipantTypical sheep reply.[/quote]
Lol what a pathetic thing to think is a snappy comeback, ya you really nailed me.
JFC are you ever pathetic.
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