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July 24, 2025 at 4:56 pm #18060
CanadaCup
Participantleast surprising thing iv read today
Least surprising thing is actually a bunch of woke social justice idiots who believe these guys are guilty until proven innocent and then follow that up with guilty even when proven not guilty.
People deserve second chances especially when they’re found not guilty. That’s the purpose of the justice system, even one that absolutely loves to let professional criminals back out on the streets to perpetually reoffend. These guys will never do anything even remotely like this ever again and don’t deserve to lose their ability to continue to play hockey.
Nope, it’s a simple business decision. Players sign contracts committing “to conduct themselves on and off the rink to the highest standard of honesty, morality, fair play and sportsmanship and to refrain from conduct detrimental to the best interests of the league, their team and hockey in general.” If teams decide that their behaviour (which was never questioned) hurts their brand, they’re gone.
July 24, 2025 at 5:04 pm #18061Big23Questions
Participantpushing buttons posting stupid shit just to get a ride outfit a group of strangers to fill its pathetic life.
Hooked on Phonics did`nt work for me.
July 24, 2025 at 5:27 pm #18068Unholy_Goalie
Participantits not surprising you are like, Yes put all these players on my team, being King Rapist and Epstein Buddy supporter..its your brand
Having read some of the details and texts I dont want people like that on the team I cheer for, fuck them all..but its not surprising it continues to happen.
Epstein and King Rapist? Oh you must be talking about Bill Clinton, Mark Carney and Joe Biden (don’t Google Ashley Biden’s diary, you might learn something the libtard hive mind doesn’t want you to learn).
Stick to hockey though.
Not guilty means not guilty. Not surprising the witch hunt cult continues to be a cult.
July 24, 2025 at 5:30 pm #18072Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantNope, it’s a simple business decision. Players sign contracts committing “to conduct themselves on and off the rink to the highest standard of honesty, morality, fair play and sportsmanship and to refrain from conduct detrimental to the best interests of the league, their team and hockey in general.” If teams decide that their behaviour (which was never questioned) hurts their brand, they’re gone.
Nope, it’s very simple. They’re not guilty. And they’ve done nothing while under contract that they are guilty for. They’ve been prosecuted unjustly by both the government and the idiots among the cult mob of social justice warriors. They were 18 year olds who acted immaturely. They’ll be the last ones to ever do anything like that ever again. They can be given a second chance because the business is playing hockey and they’re still good at it.
July 24, 2025 at 6:14 pm #18077CanadaCup
ParticipantNope, it’s a simple business decision. Players sign contracts committing “to conduct themselves on and off the rink to the highest standard of honesty, morality, fair play and sportsmanship and to refrain from conduct detrimental to the best interests of the league, their team and hockey in general.” If teams decide that their behaviour (which was never questioned) hurts their brand, they’re gone.
Nope, it’s very simple. They’re not guilty. And they’ve done nothing while under contract that they are guilty for. They’ve been prosecuted unjustly by both the government and the idiots among the cult mob of social justice warriors. They were 18 year olds who acted immaturely. They’ll be the last ones to ever do anything like that ever again. They can be given a second chance because the business is playing hockey and they’re still good at it.
Being found guilty means they’re not going to jail. The terms of the morals clause doesn’t say anything about criminal convictions – “highest standard of honesty, morality“, etc. If teams don’t think they’re worth the headache, they might impose. Obviously, the PA would intervene on behalf of the players. Yeah unions, amitite?
July 24, 2025 at 6:29 pm #18079Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBeing found guilty means they’re not going to jail. The terms of the morals clause doesn’t say anything about criminal convictions – “highest standard of honesty, morality“, etc. If teams don’t think they’re worth the headache, they might impose. Obviously, the PA would intervene on behalf of the players. Yeah unions, amitite?
They pose no risk or headache as they have acted perfectly fine since the accusations were levied. Teams would be stupid to avoid quality hockey players for what would amount to a few days of whining from a bunch of cult minded losers on BlueSky.
The Leafs would be a better team with McLeod, Formenton and Foote and save a lot of cap space too. They’re not guilty and should be allowed to move forward with their lives after years of wrongful persecution and lost opportunity.
Even if deemed guilty in the court of public opinion, it gives them an opportunity to become ambassadors to teach people how not to make the same mistakes.
July 24, 2025 at 7:07 pm #18083CanadaCup
ParticipantBeing found guilty means they’re not going to jail. The terms of the morals clause doesn’t say anything about criminal convictions – “highest standard of honesty, morality“, etc. If teams don’t think they’re worth the headache, they might impose. Obviously, the PA would intervene on behalf of the players. Yeah unions, amitite?
They pose no risk or headache as they have acted perfectly fine since the accusations were levied. Teams would be stupid to avoid quality hockey players for what would amount to a few days of whining from a bunch of cult minded losers on BlueSky.
The Leafs would be a better team with McLeod, Formenton and Foote and save a lot of cap space too. They’re not guilty and should be allowed to move forward with their lives after years of wrongful persecution and lost opportunity.
Even if deemed guilty in the court of public opinion, it gives them an opportunity to become ambassadors to teach people how not to make the same mistakes.
Maybe it’ll play out that way. I’m not arguing one way or the other. I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as to say not guilty means they’re back. Teams will make their own decisions
July 24, 2025 at 8:02 pm #18087Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantMaybe it’ll play out that way. I’m not arguing one way or the other. I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as to say not guilty means they’re back. Teams will make their own decisions
There’s going to be a lot of teams that will stupidly blacklist these guys even after the NHL is done railroading them. I think the Leafs should use this opportunity to their advantage rather than be another sheep in the flock once they’re eligible.
They need a bottom-six center who can win FOs. That’s McLeod. Instant upgrade over Kampf. They need a bottom-six winger who can kill penalties, has a good frame and skates fast, younger, cheaper replacement for Jarnkrok. That’s Formenton. They need a big body with a big slapshot for the 3rd pairing and that can be Foote.
All 3 could probably be signed for 1 AAV or less and all 3 are going to have a chip on their shoulder with something to prove, knowing they can’t be irresponsible people without severe backlash.
July 25, 2025 at 9:55 am #18135Fakepartofme
ParticipantBeing found guilty means they’re not going to jail. The terms of the morals clause doesn’t say anything about criminal convictions – “highest standard of honesty, morality“, etc. If teams don’t think they’re worth the headache, they might impose. Obviously, the PA would intervene on behalf of the players. Yeah unions, amitite?[/quote]
Not guilty, but still pieces of shit.
Headaches the leafs dont need.July 25, 2025 at 10:17 am #18144WHIPPER
ParticipantNot guilty, but still pieces of shit.
Headaches the leafs dont need.
~FakepartofmeYup. Just because you’re found not guilty of a crime, doesn’t mean you’re innocent of being a garbage human being. I’d be very disappointed if the Leafs touched any of them.
July 25, 2025 at 11:39 am #18169Azure
ParticipantThis will be completely unpopular but….People are shitting on these guys because when they were kids they had a girl that wanted to party. 95% of 17-18 year olds would have done the same thing under the same circumstance. The only crime here was the fact that they lost years of salary. This has been a shit show clown circus right from the beginning.
July 25, 2025 at 11:44 am #18170Dozzer
ParticipantYup. Just because you’re found not guilty of a crime, doesn’t mean you’re innocent of being a garbage human being. I’d be very disappointed if the Leafs touched any of them.
Oh fuck it would be flat out stupidity, just begging for a media disaster.
Even if you’re UG and think the players are fine most of society doesn’t agree and that alone would make signing them absolute hell for the hockey team.
July 25, 2025 at 12:10 pm #18176WHIPPER
ParticipantThis will be completely unpopular but….People are shitting on these guys because when they were kids they had a girl that wanted to party. 95% of 17-18 year olds would have done the same thing under the same circumstance. The only crime here was the fact that they lost years of salary. This has been a shit show clown circus right from the beginning.
That’s more of an indictment of hockey culture, or perhaps society in general.
EM is not without blame. Unless all of the players and witnesses came up with a corroborated, wild story, she wasn’t exactly an unwilling participant.
Keep ya dick in ya pants, boys, or be willing to live with the consequences.
July 25, 2025 at 12:18 pm #18179Azure
ParticipantIt has nothing to do with “Hockey Culture” Almost any group of young single guys out for a night on the town meet a girl that is looking for some fun with all of them. Happens every weekend in any large city and university or college town in North America.
When this story came out before the trail there was an article that came out that claimed this whole thing got kicked off originally because the girls mom found out what happened. The way it was originally handled by the police and hockey Canada was laughable but the fact that prosecutors decided to pick the case up and re trail it was 100% political and as was seen in the trail the evidence was so week that this should never have even gone to trail.
July 25, 2025 at 12:46 pm #18183Fakepartofme
ParticipantOh fuck it would be flat out stupidity, just begging for a media disaster.
Even if you’re UG and think the players are fine most of society doesn’t agree and that alone would make signing them absolute hell for the hockey team.[/quote]
Yup.
Plus they are not very talented.
The leafs will have a media circus already this season, dont need to add garbage humans to the mix -
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