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August 13, 2025 at 5:04 pm #20924
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ParticipantWell my pic finally started showing on HB, I loaded it from “files” off my iPhone and not pics so I wonder if that was the trick.
Not that I care, I’m no longer a mod on that site so all I’m doing is just treating UG like he treats everyone else lol
August 13, 2025 at 5:17 pm #20934SystemTool
ParticipantI see hes doing his old song and dance again. “I know what’s going to happen and if you all dont agree with my absolute certain for a fact evaluation youre all idiots” act.
Never understood why some fellas cant just say, hey this is my opinion, I respect yours too, without passing their OPINION as a fact that isnt a fact but their own guess.
Edit: I know exactly why. Lack of confidence. Insecurity. Real life midget, cant find a woman or his wife wears the pants, internet warrior. Inferiority complex.
August 13, 2025 at 5:28 pm #20940Dozzer
ParticipantI see hes doing his old song and dance again. “I know what’s going to happen and if you all dont agree with my absolute certain for a fact evaluation youre all idiots” act.
Never understood why some fellas cant just say, hey this is my opinion, I respect yours too, without passing their OPINION as a fact that isnt a fact but their own guess.
Nothing all that special about him. He’s a Canadian hockey player lover and he cannot stand that leafs are not built around players from Canada. Nylander is a waste of space, Knies and Matthews are only going to be half the players they were without Marner blah blah blah.
Then he’ll ramble on about how the league needs to adjust how the cap works. That guy can’t accept the league will never adjust the cap for Canadian teams, the priority is development in the US. The market in Canada works just fine. It’s a sport yes, but when it comes to the $ it’s primarily a business. Therefore the league’s primary goal is to develop the American teams into businesses that earn like the Canadian teams do.
Get used to not seeing as many Canadian stars on Canadian teams moving forward. For instance, if McDavid leaves the Oilers it won’t be to come to Toronto, that’s such an amusing fantasy to hear from people lol.
August 13, 2025 at 5:41 pm #20946SystemTool
ParticipantI see hes doing his old song and dance again. “I know what’s going to happen and if you all dont agree with my absolute certain for a fact evaluation youre all idiots” act.
Never understood why some fellas cant just say, hey this is my opinion, I respect yours too, without passing their OPINION as a fact that isnt a fact but their own guess.
Nothing all that special about him. He’s a Canadian hockey player lover and he cannot stand that leafs are not built around players from Canada. Nylander is a waste of space, Knies and Matthews are only going to be half the players they were without Marner blah blah blah.
Then he’ll ramble on about how the league needs to adjust how the cap works. That guy can’t accept the league will never adjust the cap for Canadian teams, the priority is development in the US. The market in Canada works just fine. It’s a sport yes, but when it comes to the $ it’s primarily a business. Therefore the league’s primary goal is to develop the American teams into businesses that earn like the Canadian teams do.
Get used to not seeing as many Canadian stars on Canadian teams moving forward. For instance, if McDavid leaves the Oilers it won’t be to come to Toronto, that’s such an amusing fantasy to hear from people lol.
As a Canadian hockey lover how do you not see the difference between him and Marchand, Bennett, Nate Mac, crosby. McDavid lol. One of these things are not like the other. Those guys didn’t look to their peers on the team but led the charge themselves. Marner is an insecure little bitch that cries when the going gets tough instead of leading the charge.
Im not here sticking up for Nylander and Matthews or defending them but I do find it absurd anyone in their right mind would defend marner either. Especially when hes the Canadian boy who quit on his Canadian team
August 13, 2025 at 6:09 pm #20954Dozzer
ParticipantAs a Canadian hockey lover how do you not see the difference between him and Marchand, Bennett, Nate Mac, crosby. McDavid lol. One of these things are not like the other. Those guys didn’t look to their peers on the team but led the charge themselves. Marner is an insecure little bitch that cries when the going gets tough instead of leading the charge.
Im not here sticking up for Nylander and Matthews or defending them but I do find it absurd anyone in their right mind would defend marner either. Especially when hes the Canadian boy who quit on his Canadian team
Cost, flat out.
Americans can get almost all of their contract as a summer bonus and pay very little taxation. I know that’s getting reduced to only 60% but that will still make a notable difference.
Look at Marner. He got $12 million. I know I’m being general here but that means he will get $6 million of that in Nevada at 37% taxation giving him a return of $3.78 million. In order to get that in Ontario he would have to make $8.135 million at home.
Basically he’s after a $7 million take home, and to get that playing in Canada he’d have to be making around $15 million a year (they’re paid by game so it wouldn’t be all the way to $16+).
People need to recognize there is a massive taxation difference and there’s a reason the teams in the lowest taxation levels are thriving, Florida, TB, Vegas, Nashville should have done better, etc. a lot of Canadian want to deny this but we are finally hitting this level, the $10+ million dollar guys are paying attention to this. It’s why Matthews only gets paid league minimum and gets the rest of his money while living in Arizona on July 1st. That way he only pays 39.5% taxation and not 53.53%. I’m curious to see how Knies’ deal will be laid out as well.
August 13, 2025 at 6:18 pm #20955SystemTool
ParticipantIn other words Dozzer, Draisaitl is everything Marner isnt. A playoff performer. Willing to stay in Canada. Someone who elevates his team. A player who doesn’t whine but leads and consistently. Is committed and not greedy. And doing it in Edmonton of all places. #earned his 14 million. You can ask for big money when you lead your team deep. Marner wanted it all without leading his team anywhere. Draisaitl is so much like Rantanen who we could have instead of Marner but Marner marnered, and here we are.
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Says it all ☝️
August 13, 2025 at 6:52 pm #20963Dozzer
ParticipantIt’s not letting me reply to you oddly
Anyways Draisaitl may look good but not really.
He only makes $1 million a year a year and gets the rest as a July 1st bonus while in Germany at a 45% taxation. Saves him a notable amount of money.
August 13, 2025 at 8:23 pm #20972SystemTool
ParticipantWon’t let me quote or reply either but not sure what you’re saying.
Draisaitl 96 games, 52 goals, 141 points.
Marner 70 games, 13 goals,63 points.
One deserves premium top dollar one doesn’t. One has earned it, one hasn’t when it counts.
None of use would care what Marner is making if he put up the Draisaitl stats and got us to 2 cup finals whom 99% of leafs nation as never seen this team get to. Our heroes we’ve watched got to the 3rd round what.. 3 times in ours lives 0 finals appearances.
Its my opinion, which isnt worth a pair of nuts on a mouse, but we wouldn’t be bickering cap issues of our top players if they performed like the top players on teams winning cups or going deep consistently.
August 13, 2025 at 8:53 pm #20976PrinceLH
ParticipantWon’t let me quote or reply either but not sure what you’re saying.
Draisaitl 96 games, 52 goals, 141 points.
Marner 70 games, 13 goals,63 points.
One deserves premium top dollar one doesn’t. One has earned it, one hasn’t when it counts.
None of use would care what Marner is making if he put up the Draisaitl stats and got us to 2 cup finals whom 99% of leafs nation as never seen this team get to. Our heroes we’ve watched got to the 3rd round what.. 3 times in ours lives 0 finals appearances.
Its my opinion, which isnt worth a pair of nuts on a mouse, but we wouldn’t be bickering cap issues of our top players if they performed like the top players on teams winning cups or going deep consistently.
I get it. Turning 68 on the 1st of August, I saw the last Cup win when I was 9 years old. I always thought that I’d see more Cups, but not even getting to the finals in that time period is a depressing thought. A lot of stupid decisions over the years have caused this deep, dark depression of a once great franchise.
August 13, 2025 at 8:56 pm #20977SystemTool
ParticipantEl Prince-o! Good to see you here too. So envious you got to see a cup!
But to add to my point to Dozzster, not you, aren’t we going hard on Matthews bonus vs actual annual salary too?
Their guys earned their massive contracts…our guys got it despite not earning. We gave our core 4 EVERY LITTLE THING, NTC, NMC, bonuses, top dollar, less term anything and everything they wanted and all we got in near a decade was 2 playoff rounds won. Perspective helps!
August 13, 2025 at 8:59 pm #20978Dozzer
ParticipantWon’t let me quote or reply either but not sure what you’re saying.
Draisaitl 96 games, 52 goals, 141 points.
Marner 70 games, 13 goals,63 points.
One deserves premium top dollar one doesn’t. One has earned it, one hasn’t when it counts.
None of use would care what Marner is making if he put up the Draisaitl stats and got us to 2 cup finals whom 99% of leafs nation as never seen this team get to. Our heroes we’ve watched got to the 3rd round what.. 3 times in ours lives 0 finals appearances.
Its my opinion, which isnt worth a pair of nuts on a mouse, but we wouldn’t be bickering cap issues of our top players if they performed like the top players on teams winning cups or going deep consistently.
Part of me is wondering as well if Marner sees himself as the next C in Vegas… I have no reason why, it’s just a curiousity.
A desirable place to live with his family while leading a team versus being just the A in a viscous and most intense hockey crazed city. I can understand his choice but I’m glad it’s made and that he is gone, that guy is not a leaf.
And I should add real quick that yes I think Draisaitl is worth it in every way shape and form and I’m glad he chose a Canadian team to continue playing on and that yes he’s way the fuck better than Marner.
August 13, 2025 at 9:03 pm #20981PrinceLH
ParticipantEl Prince-o! Good to see you here too. So envious you got to see a cup!
Yeah, saw it in glorious black and white. I often think about the time. Expo 67 happened. So did the Summer of Love. The Beatles released Sgt. Peppers just after they won the Cup. Star Trek TOS was all the rage. Man had not yet walked on the Moon. Great sports cars, the Georgie Girl look was all the rage with females. A great time to grow up. I may die before I see them win a 3rd round playoff series.
August 13, 2025 at 9:03 pm #20982SystemTool
ParticipantWon’t let me quote or reply either but not sure what you’re saying.
Draisaitl 96 games, 52 goals, 141 points.
Marner 70 games, 13 goals,63 points.
One deserves premium top dollar one doesn’t. One has earned it, one hasn’t when it counts.
None of use would care what Marner is making if he put up the Draisaitl stats and got us to 2 cup finals whom 99% of leafs nation as never seen this team get to. Our heroes we’ve watched got to the 3rd round what.. 3 times in ours lives 0 finals appearances.
Its my opinion, which isnt worth a pair of nuts on a mouse, but we wouldn’t be bickering cap issues of our top players if they performed like the top players on teams winning cups or going deep consistently.
Part of me is wondering as well if Marner sees himself as the next C in Vegas… I have no reason why, it’s just a curiousity.
A desirable place to live with his family while leading a team versus being just the A in a viscous and most intense hockey crazed city. I can understand his choice but I’m glad it’s made and that he is gone, that guy is not a leaf.
Vegas isnt that soft and easy of a destination. They make hard decisions and expect a lot. They win cups or go deep and if they feel they aren’t good enough and can be better they trade guys that have gotten them there before in the past to be better now Marner isnt captain material and will crumble under that pressure. If he doesn’t perform at an elite level and falters he won’t last his whole term there. Marner is weak mentally, sad to say.
August 13, 2025 at 9:08 pm #20983SystemTool
Participant“Dad i suck” lol. He’s always had confidence issues.
August 13, 2025 at 9:35 pm #20988Dozzer
Participant“Dad i suck” lol. He’s always had confidence issues.
Good ol’ Marner, he always had an issue with Erie as a Knight, there was that time where he needed his “break” and then don’t forget his last game for London was losing to the Otters lol
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