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October 1, 2025 at 3:49 pm #38891
alex.TML
ParticipantI don’t understand how Minnesota can have competitive team by paying such enormous contract to one player, who is not
even the best player in the World.October 1, 2025 at 3:56 pm #38892alex.TML
ParticipantUnholy_Goalie wrote:
Or Vegas and have everything.
Vegas makes more sense for him, but I don’t believe he is going to leave Edmonton in any future.
October 1, 2025 at 4:02 pm #38894Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantUnholy_Goalie wrote:
Or Vegas and have everything.
Vegas makes more sense for him, but I don’t believe he is going to leave Edmonton in any future.
He wants to win a Cup. He will leave Edmonton if it means winning a Cup and it looks like he might have to if they can’t do it this year.
October 1, 2025 at 4:04 pm #38896alex.TML
ParticipantUnholy_Goalie wrote:
He wants to win a Cup. He will leave Edmonton if it means winning a Cup and it looks like he might have to if they can’t do it this yearHe wants to win it in Edmonton and they were not so far from getting it done for 2 years in a row.
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October 1, 2025 at 4:07 pm #38898Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantUnholy_Goalie wrote:
He wants to win a Cup. He will leave Edmonton if it means winning a Cup and it looks like he might have to if they can’t do it this yearHe wants to win it in Edmonton and they were not so far from getting it done for 2 years in a row.
Might not be possible in Edmonton given the way their team is built with no D and no goalie. He has to do everything by himself in Edmonton. The only reason they got close is because he’s the best player in the world. If he joins Vegas, next time in the Final, he gets a lot more help and gets the job done.
October 1, 2025 at 4:10 pm #38899alex.TML
ParticipantMight not be possible in Edmonton given the way their team is built with no D and no goalie. He has to do everything by himself in Edmonton. The only reason they got close is because he’s the best player in the world. If he joins Vegas, next time in the Final, he gets a lot more help and gets the job done.
Yes, I agree, but still thinking he stays in Edmonton.
Sure, more chance to win with Vegas or Florida, no doubt about it.
He was not lucky to sign contract with the team, who unlikely can win the Cup, but so many
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October 1, 2025 at 4:21 pm #38902Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantYes, I agree, but still thinking he stays in Edmonton.
Sure, more chance to win with Vegas or Florida, no doubt about it.
He was not lucky to sign contract with the team, who unlikely can win the Cup, but so many
other players been in the same situation.His biggest reason to stay in Edmonton is Draisaitl. But the rest of the team is so average or below average. Why would he stay for another 8 years? To carry a team to a point where they can’t help him win?
Vegas makes the most sense. They have a solid team, solid D, decent goalie and he has chemistry with Marner. Plus, better weather and lower taxes. If Vegas trades Eichel to Boston, they can easily afford to add McDavid, especially with the tax savings. As a UFA, McDavid can go anywhere he wants and if he stays in Edmonton, he is stuck with having to win a Cup by himself which already has not worked for close to 10 years. Can McDavid afford to put his Cup winning fate in the same organization for the rest of his career?
October 1, 2025 at 4:25 pm #38903alex.TML
ParticipantCan McDavid afford to put his Cup winning fate in the same organization for the rest of his career?
I don’t know the answer to this question, we should wait and see what happens.
He is not in easy situation there and up to very difficult decisions.October 1, 2025 at 5:37 pm #38912Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI don’t know the answer to this question, we should wait and see what happens.
He is not in easy situation there and up to very difficult decisions.I think the answer is they have run out of prospects and draft picks to make a difference. They also don’t have cap space to sign free agents or make trades necessary to improve the team.
I think the Oilers only hope is if one of their goalie prospects comes in and stands on his head. But for this year, they’re going back to Skinner, Pickard and now Ingram, for a 3 headed monster of giant question marks in net.
Teams have won the Cup with great players like McDavid and terrible goalies, but they still require a higher level of defense. The Oilers don’t have it or the resources to change it quickly. That’s why a landing spot like Vegas, that has everything but is missing something like McDavid, makes the most sense.
October 1, 2025 at 6:19 pm #38917alex.TML
ParticipantI don’t know the answer to this question, we should wait and see what happens.
He is not in easy situation there and up to very difficult decisions.I think the answer is they have run out of prospects and draft picks to make a difference. They also don’t have cap space to sign free agents or make trades necessary to improve the team.
I think the Oilers only hope is if one of their goalie prospects comes in and stands on his head. But for this year, they’re going back to Skinner, Pickard and now Ingram, for a 3 headed monster of giant question marks in net.
Teams have won the Cup with great players like McDavid and terrible goalies, but they still require a higher level of defense. The Oilers don’t have it or the resources to change it quickly. That’s why a landing spot like Vegas, that has everything but is missing something like McDavid, makes the most sense.
I makes sense to me, but the question is what makes sense for Conor, we
have no way to know what he is going to do.October 1, 2025 at 10:31 pm #38944dmnted
ParticipantHow do the leafs dump Matthews to pull it off is the main question.
So McDavid is going to leave a team that went to the Cup Final twice, leave Draisaitl, live in a worse part of the country AND NOT play with Matthews.That’d be hilarious.[/quote]
McDonald’s would love that.
October 1, 2025 at 10:34 pm #38945dmnted
ParticipantUnholy_Goalie wrote:
Or Vegas and have everything.
Vegas makes more sense for him, but I don’t believe he is going to leave Edmonton in any future.
He wants to go play with Marner so he can score 100 goals in a season.
October 2, 2025 at 8:37 am #38953Fakepartofme
ParticipantLooks like it will pretty much be the opening day line up tonight
October 2, 2025 at 9:36 am #38974MadamStench
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October 2, 2025 at 11:46 am #38980Dozzer
ParticipantMarner could have been a hero had he signed for reasonable amount (my gawd Kaprisov deal is horrible), quit whining and truly showed up in the playoffs.
But he did neither.
How good and physical the leafs will be remains to be seen…only the results in April will matter. But for 9 years it wasnt working with this core. Things had to change. They did.
Some need to move on, let it go. This isnt marner’s dads leafs anymore…..marner ran away.Question is, with how old and injury prone the leafs seem to be….can the full team survive the full season? Can matthews be the matthews of 3 years ago?
The 3rd line does look great though.I will say it quickly, Marner has talent, I know this, but he’s a whiner and I won’t miss him at all on the leafs. There’s my opinion, the end.
What I do think will be the shock for leaf fans this year is getting used to having a bottom six that actually is good again for the first time in over a couple f’n decades. They haven’t had this since before the rebuild and it’s why I think some leaf fans are still panicking about this type of restructuring. They either don’t remember how this is the more effective way to build a team or they aren’t old enough to have ever seen it, at least not on the leafs.
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